Beth n Rod

"To dare is to lose one's footing momentarily. To not dare is to lose oneself." Soren Kierkegaard, philosopher :yoda:

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Keep us posted, and be careful! Beth & Rod

Morgan, What's in the past is in the past. We hope to see more of you on the BBS. :) Beth

Hi Morgan, I understand that sometimes a link is easier. I prefer the photos, but I tell you what, I'll leave the link. When you have some time and think of it, post a photo or two. Also check out the photo gallery we have added. Click the photo button up at the top. Did you know you have your own private gallery? All members do. ;) Have a great day! Beth :groovy:

You can get HD-80 from us. We used to use Wolman products.....but this is a far superior product. Beth :groovy3:

Guys, keep chatting. You're fine. Blatant advertising is where I draw the line. I don't have a problem with naming a product and discussing how to use it. Beth;)

Thanks to all for the responses here. I had forgotten about that post by Russ. Morgan is correct, you can get it to be better than half strength this way. However, we too have been told that for liability purposes it shouldn't be done like this. But, Morgan's post stands and is there if you need it. Be safe. Thank you Morgan for sharing. :groovy: I'm glad you posted it, and hope to see more up here. Beth :groovy3:

When we first got into the biz, Rod tried using the x-jet for that purpose, before the days of HD-80. But he has not x-jetted HD. He has tried it with other less effective products before its time. Beth

John, I'm sorry you doubt me. I have used the x-jet. We own several, and I do go into the field with Rod and I have done the work. I have applied HD, EFC, and Cit, as well as Hang Time and Wood Tux. I have used both hot and cold water on a variety of surfaces (cold on wood), can operate a machine, use an extension pole, I know which tip to use, have used a surface cleaner, and from time to time even come up with an idea when we need one for a particular job. I know what I do because Russell from Extreme has taught us. In fact if you ask him he'll tell you no one has more field time with HD than Rod, since Rod beta tested it, and Rod read my response before I posted it. You can only mix it so strong before it will change the formulation and become less effective. Morgan, great post. :) Beth

Morgan, please address the question here. It's fine. :groovy: The question being asked is not about who has a better product, it's not about another BBS, it's specifically about if you can get enough product (HD) into solution to use it the way some do at full strength. I'll kick off the response and you guys can take it from there. The answer is that at 16 oz. per gallon it will not have time to go into solution and properly disolve. The ingredients in HD disolve to different points in water. By this I mean that while some of them might disolve at more than 8 oz, others will not because of saturation in the water. This is why you can't: 1. apply HD at full strength w/ x-jet 2. mix it any stronger regardless of how you apply it 3. the ingredients need time to disolve in order to go into solution HD was invented with safe application in mind. If it was applied at full strength (which we have said can't be done) with via x-jet it could cause very serious damage. As it stands using an x-jet does not put it on the surface at full strength. You might get half strength. Now even at that, HD will remove many, many coatings however it is not going to give you optimal results in many cases, as this will depend on the product you are removing from the wood. The only other thing I'll say is that those who have used HD in a pump up or shurflow will tell you it's very caustic and understand why it needs to be applied in a less liberal fashion. Also keep in mind that this product is not just made from a single ingredient. It's made from MANY ingredients, and is unique in formulation and design. I'll only say one other thing... if you could (and you can't ) apply HD at true full strength via x-jet you would be surrounded by a cloud of lye. Very dangerous. I have been to multiple sites and seen the results of times when chems were not properly applied, but were applied with less agressive methods such as a pump up or shurflo. Even then problems can arise if you don't take the proper precautions. Be safe. And please realize that I don't just say it to be controversial. I say it because I care VERY much about all of you, and don't want to see anyone hurt. Beth :groovy3:

V-Scrub will work really well too. We use HD-80 simply because it is already on hand. Some cleaners/strippers have multiple uses. It depends on the ingredients. If you know what the makeup is of what you're removing, then knowing what you need to remove it is easy if you think about the chemicals.

HD-80 is a degreaser. And it's powder. It was formulated for wood but works on many other things.... Beth p.s. I'll try to copy paste the chat into a thread.

It's easier than that. Go to the grocery store. Go into the cleaning isle. Look for a small container that says Twinkle on it. Get the one for copper. It's a dream. We used it to clean a copper hood over a fireplace in a newly remodled home. It's a paste, goes on with a damp sponge (comes with it but you can use any). Then you rub it off with a dry towel. Love the stuff.:groovy3: Beth

Hey Vince, You coming to the round table meeting? You should! Beth :)

Ditto. beth@seedirtrun.com Please send both.

Mike, Email me. Beth

We have a job lead for a fence that needs washing and sealing in Upper Marlboro, Md. The zip code is 20772. Email or call if you want the rest of the details. ;) Beth & Rod

I've heard that stuff is good. Don't know that Rod has bought any yet, but I'll suggest he try it. Welcome to the board Ryan! :) :lurker: :club: Beth

Too shy to post your photo as an avatar? Never fear. There are now standard avatars available to use. Simply go into your User CP and click edit options. Scroll to the bottom of the screen. Click more info, and select your avatar. We'll add more as we find them... Beth & Rod

Have added a bunch more avatars....check 'em out!:groovy:

You're welcome Dan. Call myself or Rod anytime if you are in the field and need help when applying the product. Some of the things we keep in mind when we bid and also when we go out to do jobs are: 1. is the finish oil, alkyd, latex, acrylic, parafinic, polymer resin? 2. solid, semitransparent? 3. what manufacturer? 4. how many coats are on there? 5. how much ( or little) sun does the deck get? 6. when was the finish applied (how old is it)? We have found we need answers to as many of these as possible to have the job go smoothly. With time you won't have to ask all of them, some you will know by visual inspection. Beth :groovy:

Do you use... AOL ICQ Yahoo! MSN ...for your instant messaging or chat needs? Well, you'll like the latest feature we've added. When you view a member's profile, if they have filled out one oth the messengers listed above, you'll see a small icon next to it. The icon will let you know if the user is online, and if you click it, a window will pop up to launch it. Enjoy!!!!! Beth & Rod Administrators p.s. don't forget to check out the Chat module!:cool:

Hi all, Some of you have contacted us saying that you have had trouble accessing the BBS. By now the DNS server has propagated so you should be able to do it. Thanks to one member who forwarded an email to us, we believe we have the reason, and a solution. Many of you have subscribed to threads you are following. Very often, readers will click a link in the email, and it takes them to the post. During the setup and transfer of the databases the URL was listed as an IP address. It has been changed in the setting to the URL. However, if you subscribed to a thread before we changed the URL in the control panel, the chances are you're getting emails with a numeric link rather than www.thegrimescene.com and that's the problem. Also, if you have bookmarked the numeric link, change it to www.thegrimescene.com . If you have a thread you are following, go into your User Control Panel, and unsubscribe, then resubscribe, and you will recieve notices with the correct link. Please don't hesitate to contact us should you experience any problems while using the BBS. We're happy to help. Beth & Rod Administrators

Thanks Reed! And you'll ALL be pleased to learn that the email notification links are now working again the way they should. Click to your hearts content! Beth :groovy: