Ron Musgraves

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I'm affraid to get one...

Maybe a local org can step in and call on your behalf. It would look better...

You need anything Graig, just hollar...

I'm looking forward to meeting Larry, we have talked alot on the phone for years.

I do a couple..LOL

Did I win?????????? and if you cant find someone for those refferals please call me. I have a name....

Its a great chat, Your toooo funny...

Lol...

http://www.pressurewashchat.com/ NOW

Hope the Familys good, family First Scott. Let me know if you need anything buddy.

Scott and I have bumped head a little, we always remain freinds despite him lowballing me.LOL serious we work together and with others, I cant give specifics but we watch out for one another.

Great thread!!! Guys, if you beleive that not helping is the answer? Why are you here? If you give , you get!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry guys, I will keep educating them and raise the standards so high we will all be better off. Power in Knowledge!!!!!!!!! It has never hurt me , its helped my market. We work together and share info like any other trade. If you have one account and loose it, thats your fault. You cant loose good customers with good realation to someone who competes. You can loose them to a hack that doesnt know what to charge. Teach and train, of course trade secrets are trade secrets. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh

PWNA Launches Environmental Program February 20, 2009 Prattville, Alabama PWNA Environmental Chairman Robert M. Hinderliter launched the new PWNA Environmental Initiative at a Contract Cleaner Round Table hosted by Russ Spence (Prokleen Power Wash) and promoted by Ron ********** (Pro-Power Wash). Over 50 contract cleaners plus Vendor Sponsors attended the event held in a suburb of Montgomery, Alabama. In the next seven years, all municipalities and urban areas will have their environmental regulations and ordinances reviewed in detail by the EPA. Part of this in depth audit includes regulations, ordinances, and BMPs concerning Cosmetic Cleaning which includes pressure power washing. All municipalities over 100,000 population will have their audits completed in the next 5 years. This action is forcing a review and implementation of these ordinances. The main thing that effects how these regulations are implemented and interpreted is the protection of the environment coupled with the “economic revenue stream” of various participants including: 1) Environmental Regulators, 2) Environmental Equipment Manufactures & Distributors, 3) Cosmetic Cleaners, 4) Competitive Trade Associations, and 5) Interested Stake Holders including concerned citizens. Not always, but generally the following apply for the effect of the “Economic Revenue Stream” on how the Clean Water Act is interpreted and implemented: · Environmental Regulators: They want the regulations to be heavily enforced with lots of restrictions to create a revenue stream with fines and fees. Because the Regulators are not sure of the effect on the environment they will err on the conservative side, like not allowing waste water, that is filtered through an oil absorbent boom to remove the hydrocarbons (oil and grease) and filtered through a screen (to remove the sand and debris), into the sanitary sewer system. · Manufactures & Distributors (CETA Members): Strong environmental rules will increase the sales of environmental equipment and related items, i.e., a regulatory driven market increases sales. · Cosmetic Cleaners: They want the regulations to be reasonable, rational, and logical to decrease the cost of compliance while protecting the environment. They do not want the rules and regulations to be arbitrary, irrational, and unreasonable. The rules should be good for the municipality, the contract cleaner, and the environment. · Competitive Trade Associations: The Coin-op Car Wash Associations see mobile Contract Cleaners and Charity Car Washes as competitors taking away revenue from their facilities. The average charity car wash does about $3,500 in revenue and mobile contract cleaners do hundreds of thousands of dollars of business. The Liquid Waste Haulers want to haul the waste water and put as many restrictions as possible on the transportation of the liquid waste water to force the use of their transportation services and disposal facilities. · Interested Stake Holders and Concerned Citizens: Generally those parties that get involved in the development of these regulations are extremist having unconventional points of view, otherwise they are not concerned. As you can see from the above if the regulations are going to be reasonable, rational, and logical then the contract cleaner is going to have to get politically involved! If the contractors do not get involved then by their silence they are voting by default for tough rules and regulations because of the “economic revenue stream” of other interested parties. If a contract cleaner receives enforcement action of a citation or fine and he did not get politically active in the development of the ordinances, then he voted by default for this enforcement action. The Contract Cleaners are going to pay for the development of the ordinances either by getting politically active or through citations, fines, and the expense of environmental equipment and regulations that are unnecessary. PWNA has developed a program for contract cleaners to follow that will help assure that these regulations and ordinances are reasonable, rational, and logical. The ordinance is up on the EPA’s Website as an example for other communities to follow. The PWNA Program is based on 13 years of positive results of a regulation that is reasonable, rational, and logical. This program has been administered at almost no cost to the municipality and has resulted in pollutants in the storm drains equivalent to areas of heavy police action! The Ordinance is good for the municipality, good for the environment, and good for Contract Cleaners. But it required politically active involvement of the contract cleaners to make this happen, otherwise the regulations would have been unreasonable, arbitrary, and irrational. For information on how you can get involved and details of the program go to www.pwna.org and click on the “Environmental” link. Can you afford to not get involved or are you going to vote by default? Join PWNA today and support your industry. Robert M. Hinderliter, PWNA Environmental Chairman Note: Economic Revenue Stream of Delco Cleaning Systems of Fort Worth: The Economic Revenue Stream of Delco Cleaning Systems of Fort Worth has come up several times since it does not fit the general scenario of a Manufacturer, Distributor, or CETA Member. Delco’s Revenue Stream is based on the assumption that if the regulations are reasonable, rational, and logical then there will be a high level of compliance at a reasonable cost. This will assure a larger customer base for standard equipment instead of fewer customers with a large capital investment for Environmental Equipment. This large investment also limits the jobs that are financially feasible to larger jobs leaving the smaller work for nights, and weekends to go the storm drains when enforcement is at its lowest. This is one major reason why police actions do not work better they do. It forces the smaller non-economical jobs to uneducated contract cleaners just entering the business and to owners who do not know any better. As a result of the political action of Robert Hinderliter, President and founder of Delco Cleaning Systems of Fort Worth, the use of recycling units almost disappeared in his local market. Contractors are now able to enter the business with less than a $300.00 investment for environmental equipment and comply with the local environmental ordinance. This ordinance has withstood the test of time of over 13 years as an example for other regulating agencies and has been followed by many. Thanks, Robert Hinderliter, President Delco Cleaning Systems of Fort Worth 2513 Warfield St, Ft. Worth, TX 76106-7554 Direct Line: 800-211-0286, 817-529-6601, Cell: 817-366-3041 Company: 800-433-2113 or 817-625-4213, Fax: 817-625-2059 Website: <http://www.dcs1.com/>, Email: <robert@dcs1.com> Mobile Power Wash Equipment, Parts, Chemicals, & Training Videos and DVDs Toll Free Technical Support for products purchased from Delco .AOLWebSuite .AOLPicturesFullSizeLink { height: 1px; width: 1px; overflow: hidden; } .AOLWebSuite a {color:blue; text-decoration: underline; cursor: pointer} .AOLWebSuite a.hsSig {cursor: default}

http://www.ptstate.com/index.php/topic,7338.0.html Only Click if your attending Bama

Now for another 30

That Stinks, she has been on *** recently trying to buy a surface cleaner in Cali....on graiglist... I hope it all works out Daniel, letting us all know is a good thing. She must be in some trouble?

Just wondering if anyone is planing on showing off the rig at the coming events....http://nationalcleaningexpo.com/

No, he is at Fleetwash

Chris is back GA...

Thats great, looks like you would have a rig contest won.LOL

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Shipped four and one person never sent the name.

He says he will be in Vegas.....