Terms of Service Warning: The contracting trades are an activity in which there exists the potential for serious injury or death. ALL Users must read and agree to these Terms of Service before using this site. This web site is dedicated to the contracting trades, an activity which is inherently dangerous. You should not depend on information gleaned from this site for your personal safety. Your safety depends upon your own judgment based on competent instruction, experience, and a realistic assessment of ability. There are no warranties, either expressed or implied, that the information on this website are accurate and reliable. Your use of this site indicates your assumption of the risk of death or serious injury and is an acknowledgment of your own sole responsibility for your safety. The following terms and conditions are in reference to the The Grime Scene web site and discussion board (www.thegrimescene.com), here in referred to as "The Grime Scene". These terms and conditions apply to all sites, services, and resources within the The Grime Scene. ACCEPTANCE OF TERMS The Grime Scene provides its service to you, subject to the following Terms of Service (referred to as "TOS"), which may be updated by us from time to time without notice. You may review the most current version of the TOS at any time in the Announcements. In addition, when using particular The Grime Scene services, you shall be subject to any posted guidelines or rules applicable to such services.
[*]DESCRIPTION OF SERVICE The Grime Scene provides users with access to informational resources including communication and interactive resources pertaining to the contracting industry. Under no circumstances shall The Grime Scene be liable to any user on account of that user's use or misuse of the site or reliance on the site. Such limitation of liability shall apply to prevent recovery of direct, indirect, incidental, consequential, special, punitive and exemplary damages (even if The Grime Scene has been advised of the possibility of such damages). Such limitation of liability shall apply whether the damages arise from use or misuse of the site or reliance on the site, from inability to use the site, or from the interruption, suspension, or termination of the site or services offered on the site (including such damages incurred by third parties).
Such limitation shall also apply with respect to damages incurred by reason of other services or goods received through or advertised on the site or received through any links provided on the site. .Such limitation shall apply, without limitation, to the costs of procurement of substitute goods or services, lost profits, or lost data. These limitations shall apply notwithstanding any failure of essential purpose of any limited remedy. The Grime Scene makes no warranties as to the accuracy of its information and due to the volatile nature of the information contained within The Grime Scene. The Grime Scene can not screen or authenticate all articles, posts, listings or other information.
[*]TERMS OF MEMBERSHIP & USAGE RESTRICTIONS Site Membership Membership is available to any person over the age of 13 who registers and accurately provides all the required information, provides a legitimate electronic mail address and obtains a unique The Grime Scene member name and password. Membership is non-transferable. The use of web-based email accounts may be denied due to abuse.
All membership information must be accurate and belong to the person registering. Invalid, incomplete, or falsified information can result in the immediate termination of all membership privileges for that user and, possibly a permanent ban, restricting the member from using any of The Grime Scene’s services at any time.
Usage of this site is restricted to persons under the age of 13. (you must be over 13 to participate here)
The Grime Scene is not responsible for the content of any member's posts, and the views expressed on The Grime Scene are the responsibility of the posting member and not The Grime Scene. The Grime Scene does not preview member posts in any way before they appear on the site. Any link posted to a third-party internet address does not imply an endorsement of that site or its content by The Grime Scene.
The Grime Scene forums are for the discussion of the contracting trades and related topics. While the administrators and moderators of The Grime Scene will attempt to keep all off-topic messages off this forum, it is impossible for us to review all messages. All messages express the views of the author, and neither the owners of The Grime Scene Room nor the moderators will be held responsible for the content of any message.
The Grime Scene forums may contain profanity.
As a condition of buying and selling items listed in any forum of The Grime Scene, Buyer and Seller agree that The Grime Scene is not brokering or otherwise participating in any purchase or sale. The Grime Scene has no knowledge of the terms of sale, the condition of any items offered for sale, the accuracy of any aspect of the sale or the use to which any item shall be put. Buyer assumes all responsibility for proper use of any item so purchased. Buyer acknowledges that improper use of some or all of the items offered for sale on The Grime Scene may cause serious injury or death. Buyer shall seek qualified assistance and instruction in the use of all items purchased.
Pornography of any type is not allowed.
The owners, administrators, and moderators of The Grime Scene reserve both the right to remove, edit, move or close any thread for any reason, and the right to suspend or delete any user account for any reason we feel is in violation of the TOS, both explicit and implied.
Membership in The Grime Scene is a privilege, not a right. We reserve the right to deny service to any person at any time without cause.
[*]INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY It is the policy of The Grime Scene to respond expeditiously to claims of intellectual property infringement. The Grime Scene will promptly process and investigate notices of alleged infringement and will take appropriate actions under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act ("DMCA"). Should a violation of intellectual property be discovered, the document(s) or messages in such violation will be removed in a timely manner after any and all investigating has been completed to prove the authenticity of such a claim.
[*]PUBLIC CONTENT ON THE GRIME SCENE Any and all content posted for inclusion in publicly accessible areas of The Grime Scene are the responsibility of the creator. The Grime Scene makes no claims or warranties about such information or its authenticity. Upon posting any content on The Grime Scene, you grant The Grime Scene the non-exclusive right to publish, modify and use such content solely for the purpose of displaying such content.
[*]LIMITATION OF RE-USE You agree not to reproduce, duplicate, copy, sell, resell or exploit for any commercial purposes or noncommercial purposes any portion of the services or content contained within The Grime Scene and its subsidiary sites. In order to use any content, graphical art, photos or files owned by or published by The Grime Scene, direct, written authorization must be obtained from The Grime Scene with no exceptions at any time for any reason.
[*]LEGAL RESTRICTIONS This agreement shall be constructed and controlled by the laws of the State of Maryland, without regard to its conflict of law provisions. Any dispute arising hereunder will be governed by the laws of the State of Maryland. Each member agrees to personal jurisdiction by tile state and federal courts of the State of Maryland.
The Grime Scene reserves the right to change, modify or update this TOS agreement at any time without notification. Membership in and the use of resources contained within The Grime Scene constitutes full agreement and acknowledgment of the restrictions, limitations and terms set forth in this agreement.
[*]Forum Posting Rules The following is a list of basic guidelines about what is and is not allowed while posting on The Grime Scene. These rules are in addition to what is listed in our Terms Of Service . Please read through all of these sections before using our site and contact us if you have questions. Users shall treat each other with respect at all times on The Grime Scene. Name calling, personal attacks, or other inappropriate behavior will not be allowed and may cause your account to be banned.
Advertising on our site is specific to Contractors and to those Manufacturers and Distributors serving our industry. All Manufacturers and Distributors must have a signature, and should not solicit in the main forums. Please use the vendor area. Members who try to sell products and/or services to contracting professionals in the main forum area may have their accounts privileges suspended or revoked.
No pornographic material or links to pornographic material may be posted on this site.
Profanity shall be kept to a minimum. Words that appear to be blanked out with stars (*) are not allowed.
You may only post material and content that you own. Posting copyrighted material, trademarks, and other violations of the DMCA is prohibited. Anyone posting an article must credit the author and provide a link to the original data.
These rules may be altered at anytime without notice so please check the Announcements often.
Sorry but did not follow "great bb advice on wood" ??? Due to finances as I spent my savings on the property and renovations...including the decks...am disabled on fixed income...but want a pretty finish that will protect and keep my deck beautiful with ease of reapplication maintenance. Thank you all for your time.
Beth...would love to hear why AC ranks so well with you and what are its advantages over RS and/or Woodrich? So far it seems RS is garnering more support So please all camps pitch in and give me your whys...thank you all so much
Thank you very much for your words. It is a plus for RS. Your reasoning is sound. Please people do more of this for me...Thanx
Illumination posted a topic in DIY'ers - Ask The Pro'sI would really like to hear the pros and cons of these stains as all 3 seem to have dedicated users who swear by them. Would really appreciate replies from each fanbase as to why they prefer them, what they don't like about the others. As to ease of application for a novice as I, to ease of maintenance, to beauty. This is an awesome site with great people on it and I truly appreciate and value the info and time you all share with me.
So it seems u r recommending Woodrich Timberoil applied lightly in about three weeks, and then again in spring and then again when? What should I clean the deck with prior to application of the stain? Is Timberoil really as easy to apply as advertised? You know goof proof for an amateur like myself? What is the durability of this stain? Have read that it turns black rather quickly. Is ready seal as easy to apply as Woodrich? There are so many who swear by it that it must be beautiful as well as durable. I also see that you have reservations about Armstrong Clark. What are they and what makes you feel this way? Isn't it also a penetrating stain with high pigment, solids content? Thank you so much for your advice. I Appreciate all of your valuable advice. And you are very observant and honest as you pointed out I am in the position to have a gorgeous deck and have the time to do as you suggest. Looking forward to hearing from you all. Again thank you.
Thanks Adrian and Littlefield, as this seems to be the direction I feel most comfortable pursuing. Also please tell me as to your experiences with ready seal as I am now reconsidering and no one seems to want to explain as to why they would prefer Armstrong Clark over Ready Seal or visa-versa, so I humbly ask your opinion and why. So please if u care to r have the time please tell me all you know about these stains. So clean the new deck with what?? Again thank you all so much
Thank you for the advice and it is much appreciated Adrian and Mike. I hope to hear from others as to the AC stain. Looking at the AC semi-trans Rustic Brown. Would like to hear about ease of application as well as looks and durability. Further what is the stain you two guys prefer and why?? I have the Karcher for many uses so no it was not purchased solely for this. I live on a couple of acres with a lot of fencing structures and decks and a tractor etc. and so on. I am mixed as to waiting until spring because of the snow. I am originally from southwest Louisiana (hence the "cajun" accordion avatar, yes I do play one LOL!) and have no experience with protecting from snow and arid sun. Tired of the humidity and bugs in LA and love everything about the rural NM views of the mountains and big sky!!! Hence the decks front and rear of my home!! I was going to purchase an inexpensive moisture content meter and see if it drops enough before it gets too cold. Which reminds me to ask what is the best temp to apply and what is the temp advised by your experience, not the manu's recommendation as I know actual experience is the reality. I also have an old deck that I am about to strip and re-stain as I do not know what it was stained with, but luckily it is a pigmented stain and not a solid or paint. Recommendations as to stripper and prep would be appreciated. People I know I am asking a lot but I am disabled on a fixed income and have invested the last of my savings on this lil piece of heaven I have found. So I want it to be beautiful and last the rest of my days but limited funds so I must do it myself. Truly it is heartfelt gratitude and appreciation for your time and most valuable advice. Yes the Balloon Fiesta is awesome and is occurring this week. Went to a mass ascension and night glow and love it. I really love this state and area with the ruins, desert, mountain, and culture. And the people are so laid back and friendly. Have only been here about 1.5 years and fell in love with it. Again thank you all so much for your time and help.
Hello all and thank you in advance for your anticipated help and assistance. First the details: New Pressure Treated "weathershield" lumber pro-panel roofed 450 sq. foot deck completed 10-01-09 6500' elevation Some snow thru winter not much precipitation otherwise. (19" avg. yearly) intense sun Now have been reading and reading and reading I am overwhelmed so I humbly ask you professionals for advice. I own a karcher 3000psi 2.8 gpm pressure washer. What clean prep need I do? With what chems to use to clean? How many steps to the prepping? How long to wait after prep before staining? I am leaning to Armstrong Clark rustic brown semi-transparent stain. Is this the correct choice? Should I spray it with my "paint crew plus" wagner airless? Please tell me the hows and the whys... Please excuse all the questions as I know I am asking a lot, but I want to have a gorgeous deck that will last. Everyone on this forum seems very knowledgeable helpful friendly and professional. Please tell me the specifics so I can stop all this reading and get to doing!!! Thank you so very much for your help and valuable time.