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Jim Gamble

The Little Tug that could ......

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As most know in the Parking Garage Cleaning field of pressure washing, moving around inside that garage can be difficult at best. For 23 years we have tried many things to overcome these issues. From modifying our trailers with Hydraulic lifts to this.....

A small little tug which can pull 70,000 lbs... That’s right 70,000 lbs. with a top speed of almost 10 MPH

This 4 cyl 1.3 liter gasoline unit needed to be modified from suspension to brakes. It weighs in at just over 4,000 lbs. stock. With the modifications, over 5,500 lbs. That’s about 1,000 lbs. MORE than a Ford Explorer pictured below.

The steel body of this TUG is up to 3 inches thick of Cold Rolled Steel. Yes, that’s right… I said 3 Inches thick steel. It is built like a tank and riding in it you can feel how solid this little unit is.

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Got to admit, the Ford looks better, and get better gas milage

But the Ford could not tow the weight of our trailers, especially in tight corners.

This can...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoAgjg1vLoo

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A duel axle trailer...I don't think it's much of a big deal. A Diesel puller with front weights? Where's the problem?

Exactly !!!

That dual axle trailer had a 9,420 lbs weight with a tong weight of 1254 lbs.This TUG is able to turn a trailer within a 7 ft radius. No truck can do that. To hook up is fast & easy as well.

For those who may not realize the benefits of having a vehicle that not onlycan out tow the biggest Trucks in the 750 series class or lower, but having aportable 6 ft long by 3.5 ft wide foot print that will have multi-function usesis the idea. for example our MOTORIZED 3.2 ft long by 7.4 ft wide surface cleaner spinning over 3,000 RPM's.

I do not know if you clean parking structures or not, but everyone who does,will say how difficult it is to get a full size 4x4 crew cab inside a 6 foot 1inch tall clearance or to move a 20 ft long by 101 inch wide trailer in a active garage. This unit solves that problem.

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I will be interested to see how the little tug does with a gooseneck trailer. The pivot point, and hitch are really high, so it looks like it could be a problem. Because the hitch is so high, it puts a whole different level of stress on the tug.

I don't take a 20 foot long trailer into active garages, but I always walk it first to see potential problem areas. All of my stuff is on a 16 foot trailer.

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Our trailers too are only 16 feet. We have had very few garages we could not get in with the 16's. We have enough hose to reach from the outside in. On several occasions I have parked the trailers on the first level and just ran hose up. Yes we lose pressure but not that much to make a huge difference. And the time it saved on having one man jimmy the trailer around seems like a no brainer.

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I never understood why the equipment had to be in the garage either. We are working on doing some coil cleaning this month on the roof (eighth floor) and in an enclosed floor over the mezzanine area (approx. 3rd floor). Runoff will go to the sanitary sewer.

We will have two to three rigs in the back with about 750 feet of hose coming from each of them. I know what I need for PSI and bought motors and pumps to meet that goal knowing that I'm going to lose about 700 psi with the hose length. There's no need to pull that equipment inside the building. Why do you guys have to build rigs for inside garages?

Maybe Jim's filtration equipment isn't strong enough to pull vacuum more than a few feet away. That would explain the reason for having to pull it around with a boat tug. I don't know how much that tug costs, but it has to cost more than upgrading the vacuum and adding enough hoses to reach from outside the structure.

Aren't there some OSHA problems with running those small engines in enclosed spaces?

It just seems like a strange approach. Especially since so many garages are underground or almost completely enclosed.

I don't do garages, but I do a lot of coils. I'll take some pictures of coils in an enclosed dedicated floor of a building as far as your eye can see. I'd never consider trying to take gasoline equipment like we use into an enclosed space like that.

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If there is a problem getting up the inclines you could always use "the little Syrian that could" to help out. He can pull four times the weight and doesn't need any expensive modifications.

But he does need to be careful of jack-knifing at those speeds though.

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I will be interested to see how the little tug does with a gooseneck trailer. The pivot point, and hitch are really high, so it looks like it could be a problem. Because the hitch is so high, it puts a whole different level of stress on the tug.

I don't take a 20 foot long trailer into active garages, but I always walk it first to see potential problem areas. All of my stuff is on a 16 foot trailer.

I will be interested to see how the little tug does with a gooseneck trailer. The pivot point, and hitch are really high, so it looks like it could be a problem. Because the hitch is so high, it puts a whole different level of stress on the tug.

I don't take a 20 foot long trailer into active garages, but I always walk it first to see potential problem areas. All of my stuff is on a 16 foot trailer.

Good Point Scott about the goose neck. As you already know, we have Hydraulic Jacks that will raise the tail end of the goose neck trailer if and when we get stuck on a 180 degree turn inside a Parking Structure. These hydraulics are expensive to design and install for the average contractor.

As you know Scott, a goose neck has many benefits. But one disadvantage is the turning inside a parking garage.The 30k hitch is designed to be strong enough for the goose neck connection. The Tug's REAR Wall that the hitch is welded on is 3 inches thick cold rolled steel. So that will not be an issue. This unit is designed for pulling. It is geared so low like a tractor, it has no problems. Every Mechanic will tell you that running and stopping with trucks all day long is one of the worst things you can do to a truck or car. That is a fact. This will save our Diesels from possible prematrure wear and tear. Brakes on this unit cost allot less then a 3500 dually's complete brake job.

We do not have a 20 foot trailer as well. Simply, the trailer of that size would probably not fit inside a garage with a large truck pulling it. But with this unit, it would be able to fit. The point I am trying to make is that this unit will solve those issues of Hieght, lenght, turning radius, parking, placement of the trailer, etc.

This unit will also be used for multi function uses as well when posistioning the trailer is not an issue. Just as you Scott have a 0 degree turning lawn mower and relaced the blades with a wand, this unit will be used for our wider, stronger, faster ( Up To 3600 RPM's) hitting each square inch almost 3 times more then a standard surface cleaner, thus allowing use to possible wash up to 3 times faster. Also through Hydraulics, this unit can be equipment with a simple scrubber or sweeper attachment as well. The list goes on and on what we can do with this little tug. Because it is so small, but packs a " Punch", we can transport it with our Scrubbers as well inside one trailer. This Tug will also help us park trailers in tight spots as well. The uses are endless.

The other reason why we are going this route is because of our new designed trailers that are being built as we write here. These trailers will have PODS that will detach from the back of the trailer. The pods will weigh up to 6,000 lbs each and will have a crude suspension on them designed to trailer inside a garage for placement. This tug will place those units were we need them to be inside a garage. So when we go on a Jobsite, we can determine which POD we be benficial for the task at hand. This will eleminate the need for more trucks, lic fee's, man power to drive the trailers and then storage onsite of the equipment. These PODS will by attached trough Hydraulics, rasied up to the back end of our trailer and then attached at several joints, each of them strong enough to hold over 10,000 pounds. If anyone seen my trailers, you know I over build them including the welds which are ususally double to tripple welds by a Certified Master Welder.

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since you did not understand the point I was making, Shoot, I won't waste any more time. Good luck witht he tug. Put some roll protection and a seatbelt on it to be OSHA compliant. Your operator will probably be grateful.

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since you did not understand the point I was making, Shoot, I won't waste any more time. Good luck witht he tug. Put some roll protection and a seatbelt on it to be OSHA compliant. Your operator will probably be grateful.

I assume that you are talking about the height which I thought I already addressed in the statement. So I will try to be more specific.

As you know, we always check with an engineering firm and run the numbers in their programs to see the stress limits, safety factor and balancing of our equipment which costs us more than just a few dollars and is better than to say," I think I will put that there....". We spend more on design and safety than any other company listed on these BBS. For example, our trailers are designed to run under a full load at 97+ MPH. Though we do not drive faster than 55 mph (Which is the law in California). Our rigs give a certain stability and performance when driving, more so then most trailers that would be designed to run at 55 mph. Does this cost more? Sure it does, about 39% more. But for the extra money, the safety and performance issues are worth it to me.

At a ramp with a 28.3 degree rise with a goose neck will be the issue. Most ramps we have seen is only 15-23 degrees or less. So on a steep ramp; we will need to be careful when we see a 27+ degree ramp though that day may never come.

YES Scott, we do have a roll cage that comes with the Tug from the factory. We are painting it next week. This is the standard Roll Cage that came with the unit to meet OSHA standards and the TUG is equipped with trailer brake system as well as a jake brake system.

Seat belt, the unit comes with one. The seat is also OSHA compliant. This TUG was manufactured to exceed all OSHA Complaint issues.

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Can you post the design firm's claim that the trailers can be pulled at 97 mph.

It must be correct because that's such an unusual number.

Our trailer is limited to 65 mph be the designers. If you will remember you and I have the same axle manufacturer. Here is their claim. Can you post yours?

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Who are we to question anyway Scott?

I mean - a 97 mph trailer rating... a swimming pool filter that isn't really a swimming pool filter... what do we know?

We're just a couple of "untrained" contractors. We're not even legitimate contractors. :(

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......and Beth....steps away from the PM box....Yes, I got another one.

Opinions are allowed. Questions are valid. No one bashed anyone.

Why don't you just answer the question.

*sigh*

Beth

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