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hey everybody. Im pretty new to this site, have read almost every thread on here. But have been unable to find out one thing. I know its a touchy subject since most of u have competition closeby but here goes. What do u guys charge for a regular sized hood, duct, and fan? We charge almost 400 does that sound bout right to u guys? Thanks for the advice everybody, and i understand if dont get my posts

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For a 8 to 10 foot hood with a short 4 to 5 foot stack and one fan with a ladder on the building I would be about 350. And that would be in with all my other local clients. IF they are no where near any other clients or a long drive they will be more much more. If you are just starting out and don't have a large client list currently you need to remember one thing for the future, every clients need to be able to stand on its own. And by that I mean if you move an hour away you will have a very hard time going up on them later. You have to look at each one and price it so that no matter where you are in your territory you will still make money going from one side to the other.

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yea here in ks we dont have alot of competition except hoodz. And here they do really poor jobs. But the jobs r usually a good drive. Wut do u charge for mileage? Sorry to ask these questions but i have a stake in the business and want to see i prosper. Thanx

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My coverage area is about 100 miles one way from my house, inside that I don't charge extra for mileage. I figure that into my price, I also as an extra service offer fan belts and concrete cleaning. By offering a few extra services you can turn a $350 job into a 400 to 600 or more job. I ran into that hear as well not with Hoodz but another company. I DO NOT talk bad about them to the client but will show before and after pictures and let my work speak for itself. With that being said Once I clean the place up they love it and get me to clean the concrete and start referring me to ever one they know in the business. I have had a few out of area client gained from my local one just because they saw the work and loved it.

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we do sum concrete cleaning but not much. People round here just dont want to pay for it. Also we have problems removin the gum residue, the gum will b gone but usually leaves a stain weve tried different chem but bothin seems to work good.

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That will happen with most of my clients i have them on a 3 month rotation where they get it all cleaned. Those gum spot will look much better after a few cleanings and the hotter the water the better let the heat melt it off for you not the pressure.

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Dont worry about hoodz, everyone is catching on real quickly on the hack jobs they perform. In NJ they opened 5 of them within 3 years. Well as of today 2 of them are out of business. I hear bad stories about all different hood cleaners in the state, and the hoodz stories are the best ones.

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.. .. .. .. the gum will b gone but usually leaves a stain .. .. .. ..

That's not a stain, that's a shadow. It happens. Regular and repeated washing will help lighten the shadow.

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Dont worry about hoodz, everyone is catching on real quickly on the hack jobs they perform. In NJ they opened 5 of them within 3 years. Well as of today 2 of them are out of business. I hear bad stories about all different hood cleaners in the state, and the hoodz stories are the best ones.

I talked to a former Hoodz owner the other day in the Philly area.He told me he forced Hoodz to buy back his franchise.He told me at sales of $250k in his first six months he wasn't making any money after expenses .He had a nitemare trying to find employees and the "niche business" that had no competition as advertised was flooded with low ballers,and he constantly had employee no shows and was cleaning hoods himself more than running his business.I love when I see their craigslist ads for employees with 2 paragraphs of the job description and qualifications and wanting to pay $11 an hour.There is a Hoodz in my area,I talked to him a few months ago.He seemed like a nice kid.He's 19 and worked for a Hoodz franchisee in another area and decided he wanted to own one ,so his father helped him buy one.He's a 1 man show ,constantly running ads on craigslist for a "Lead Tech".His overhead is pretty low and he's young with a really positive attitude so he might make it.

There's another outfit out of Canada that is trying to sell hood cleaning,fire suppression,and hood installation franchise territories in the US.They are running ads on Craigslist in Jersey,I think they're called American Hood Cleaners or something like that.It's the first I've heard of them,they claim they're big in Canada.

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Same hear the Hoodz guys are bigger in the large cities but I haven't seen much or their work to say anything about them yet. And yes this business is full of low ballers. They don't have the overhead of larger company's and don't clean most of the system, therefore they charge a 1/3 of what it takes to make these systems run like they should.

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I talked to a former Hoodz owner the other day in the Philly area.He told me he forced Hoodz to buy back his franchise.He told me at sales of $250k in his first six months he wasn't making any money after expenses .He had a nitemare trying to find employees and the "niche business" that had no competition as advertised was flooded with low ballers,and he constantly had employee no shows and was cleaning hoods himself more than running his business.I love when I see their craigslist ads for employees with 2 paragraphs of the job description and qualifications and wanting to pay $11 an hour.There is a Hoodz in my area,I talked to him a few months ago.He seemed like a nice kid.He's 19 and worked for a Hoodz franchisee in another area and decided he wanted to own one ,so his father helped him buy one.He's a 1 man show ,constantly running ads on craigslist for a "Lead Tech".His overhead is pretty low and he's young with a really positive attitude so he might make it.

There's another outfit out of Canada that is trying to sell hood cleaning,fire suppression,and hood installation franchise territories in the US.They are running ads on Craigslist in Jersey,I think they're called American Hood Cleaners or something like that.It's the first I've heard of them,they claim they're big in Canada.

Maybe Hood Cleaners of America? Hood Cleaners of America Inc.

They say they are big, $25k to start up. I am in SE BC, serving Southern BC & Alberta. Never heard or come across them.

Andy.

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What is a "regular sized hood" in your mind?

Depends on:

how far away the hood is located from you.

What are they cooking

How often is it being cleaned

what kind of duct work

Access to the duct work

roof access to the fan

is the fan hinged is there access to the fan

is the hood in a neighborhood or facility that has limits on when you can clean

is this a one time cleaning ( get me past the fire marshall) or is it a long term service agreement

all these figure in what you need to charge.

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Alex has it right for me a regular hood is a 8 to 14 footer with on or 2 fans. There prices range anywhere from 300 to 450 depending on all the variables Alex listed for a long term client. For a one time service it will cost a lot more, as in how much can I get out of them and how long will it take to get the place cleaned up.

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u answered my question brian thanx we charge bout wut u said. They all long term and almost always at least 60 miles away

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Chris that is a long drive I have two primary areas I work in. One is about 90 miles away and I will schedule 3 to 6 jobs there before I will make the drive. Fuel cost way too much to go that far for one 350 job. my other area is within 20 miles of my hours those I will clean any time. Chris do you schedule multiple locations per night that far away?

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I talked to a former Hoodz owner the other day in the Philly area.He told me he forced Hoodz to buy back his franchise.He told me at sales of $250k in his first six months he wasn't making any money after expenses .He had a nitemare trying to find employees and the "niche business" that had no competition as advertised was flooded with low ballers,and he constantly had employee no shows and was cleaning hoods himself more than running his business.I love when I see their craigslist ads for employees with 2 paragraphs of the job description and qualifications and wanting to pay $11 an hour.There is a Hoodz in my area,I talked to him a few months ago.He seemed like a nice kid.He's 19 and worked for a Hoodz franchisee in another area and decided he wanted to own one ,so his father helped him buy one.He's a 1 man show ,constantly running ads on craigslist for a "Lead Tech".His overhead is pretty low and he's young with a really positive attitude so he might make it.

There's another outfit out of Canada that is trying to sell hood cleaning,fire suppression,and hood installation franchise territories in the US.They are running ads on Craigslist in Jersey,I think they're called American Hood Cleaners or something like that.It's the first I've heard of them,they claim they're big in Canada.

I thought you hit the lotto and moved to the warm parts? :) We need to catch up! Been to long.

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I talked to a former Hoodz owner the other day in the Philly area.He told me he forced Hoodz to buy back his franchise.He told me at sales of $250k in his first six months he wasn't making any money after expenses .He had a nitemare trying to find employees and the "niche business" that had no competition as advertised was flooded with low ballers,and he constantly had employee no shows and was cleaning hoods himself more than running his business.I love when I see their craigslist ads for employees with 2 paragraphs of the job description and qualifications and wanting to pay $11 an hour.There is a Hoodz in my area,I talked to him a few months ago.He seemed like a nice kid.He's 19 and worked for a Hoodz franchisee in another area and decided he wanted to own one ,so his father helped him buy one.He's a 1 man show ,constantly running ads on craigslist for a "Lead Tech".His overhead is pretty low and he's young with a really positive attitude so he might make it.

There's another outfit out of Canada that is trying to sell hood cleaning,fire suppression,and hood installation franchise territories in the US.They are running ads on Craigslist in Jersey,I think they're called American Hood Cleaners or something like that.It's the first I've heard of them,they claim they're big in Canada.

I thought you hit the lotto and moved to the warm parts? :) We need to catch up! Been too long.

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yes we schedule multiple jobs in the areas. We cover all of sw kansas sum of nw kansas and sum of norther oklahoma. We usually stay n areas till all the jobs there r done. Thanx everybody for yur input

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I'm in eastern QC and never heard about them except on the Web...

They have a few large corporate accounts they used to service a few restaurants I worked in... they were dropped for safety reasons and theft!

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Your prices are all relative to the value you bring your clients. We typically price about 15-20% higher than our competitors yet ACTUALLY clean the ducting and Fan and 90% in my area don't Plus we offer other services that bring more value outside of just standard hood cleaning. If you do this then you are more entrenched in your business which creates a strong foothood in your area. We believe in not going after the penny wise penny poor type of movement and focus on bringing in more customers. Re invest your profits to grow and you should be fine, good luck!

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On 10/14/2012 at 10:59 PM, ckeener said:

not that i dont appreciate the info on hoodz but im interested bout prices, or does nobody wanna share?

I love to share!

I don't charge less than $300 plus tax. I won't leave my house for less, won't even keep talking to you on the phone if you keep pushing for less. No matter how small, or how long it DOESN'T take, $300 minimum.

I like to charge $25/hr of driving one way in addition to about $100/hr or so in amount of time it would take for ONE person to complete the job. Which, by the way, is how its been going quite swimmingly I might add.

Powerwash.com, I think, used to have a forum and somebody posted about pricing there. They said if you're not charging at least $100 - $150 per hour of cleaning time you might as well stay home. Myself, I added the $25 per hour driving charge. Because let's face it, some of us out here in the flyover country just can't make it with only charging based on the size or amount of time it takes to do just the cleaning.

Break it down into extreme detail:

$50 per fan

$25 per filter

$10 per linear foot of duct

$25 per linear foot of hood

Just for example.

What are your thoughts?

People don't like to share what they charge for their products or services because they don't want the competition to undercut them.

I say, let them undercut me, when they screw up, I become WAY MORE VALUABLE! Especially if I mop up after myself or re-light pilot lights, it's always the little details that can keep you the job at the higher price versus your competitor that comes in at $100 or more than you. Because you know, your competitor may not go on the roof at all, they may not even show up with plastic to wrap the hood or they may not even show up with a pressure washer! *GASP*

How many times has your customer replaced the fan motor? Do they know why?

How loud is the fan? Can you hear anything? Why is the place filling up with smoke? What's NOT being done?

Educate yourself, then educate your customer.

Take photos/videos.

Proof is Payment!

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