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4yr Old Cedar Fence W/Sprinkler Marks

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Here is a 280 Lft.4yr old cedar fence never been treated that i cleaned with bleach/soap then pressure washed.The sprinkler marks were tough and not completely gone but they blended in good enough as they would get.

The fence took 10 gallons of Gray Away Gold/Brown Blend.

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Nice Shane. That Gold/Brown stain mix looks great on cedar. A real vibrant color, almost glows.

I cannot see the sprinkler marks after the stain was applied. As a member of the C of CC (Congregation of Cheap Cedar) to a deacon, I have a comment and question.

These fence makers really tick me off. Here in NJ, virtually every cedar fence I have seen is made with CC. But to make matters worse, they all seem to use fasteners that were manufactured back in the Iron Age. The nail bleed is terrible.

You work hard at getting the wood prepped and then applying a premium stain. The CC looks great, like your photos. The customer pays a lot of $. Two weeks later, streaks start running down the wood from every nail. In six months, the CC looks like it has tiger stripes.

I've heard you Texans have a whole bunch of fencing. Is that a throwback to the days of keeping the Longhorns from wandering away? Do the companies down there at least use a high quality galvanized or better yet, stainless steel fasteners?

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Shane,

Here is a picture of some old cedar enclosure doors on a PT deck job I finished staining yesterday. The wood had to be stripped and brightened with citric acid.

The stain and color is stock Ready Seal, medium red. Both of our finished cedar pics look almost identical. Sure you're not using Ready Seal or am I getting Baker's Grey Away in a competitor's packaging?

Paraffinic oil with high quality iron oxide pigments is the veritable cat's meow.

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Sweet Shane....as always!

How long do you dwell the bleach?

Hey SOGGY Carlos thanks!! :cool:

Man make it stop raining in N.Cali so my Astros can play the Giants..:)

This fence I let the bleach dwell for 10 min the p/washed off.

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thanks Shane...hope the Astros kick the Giants you know what...lol..

It has been nothing but rain up here in N.Calif. I think we have had maybe 6 good days since March 1st....

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thanks Shane...hope the Astros kick the Giants you know what...lol..

It has been nothing but rain up here in N.Calif. I think we have had maybe 6 good days since March 1st....

Damm that's not good for the mud slides!! Send that rain here i haven't seen rain in ao long here we're atleast 5" below normal!

Why don't ya'll take Barry's big hat for his big head and put it over the city it would cover all of S.F..:D

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Carlos ,You have to pay union due's to the " Bleach Dweller's Association" or BDA and learn the handshake for this top secret info.. LOL ..or call the " BLEACH hotline " Is the BDA part of WRAPI ?

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Nice Shane. That Gold/Brown stain mix looks great on cedar. A real vibrant color, almost glows.

I cannot see the sprinkler marks after the stain was applied. As a member of the C of CC (Congregation of Cheap Cedar) to a deacon, I have a comment and question.

These fence makers really tick me off. Here in NJ, virtually every cedar fence I have seen is made with CC. But to make matters worse, they all seem to use fasteners that were manufactured back in the Iron Age. The nail bleed is terrible.

You work hard at getting the wood prepped and then applying a premium stain. The CC looks great, like your photos. The customer pays a lot of $. Two weeks later, streaks start running down the wood from every nail. In six months, the CC looks like it has tiger stripes.

I've heard you Texans have a whole bunch of fencing. Is that a throwback to the days of keeping the Longhorns from wandering away? Do the companies down there at least use a high quality galvanized or better yet, stainless steel fasteners?

Thanks Rick..:cool:

I hate them damm rust stains also especially on a brand new fence.For the most part majority of my fences are rust free! It looks like they use hot dip galvanize nails for the most part.

I think the fences are to keep the nieghbors from seeing you skiiny dip in the hott tub..;)

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Jim...you are way too funny. I have been picking Shanes brain over the last year on little tips as it relates to "wood stuff". By trade I am not that involved with the wood industry but am exploring that market as an add on to what we currently are involved in.

As it relates to WRAPI...well...you would have to address that with Russell as my services are complete with the organization.

I got it...lets start the BDA (Bleach Dwellers Association). Bet we could get Clorox to sponsor us LOL :)

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Diamond Jim, Texas Shane, Tennessee Jon,

You guys are starting a movement! Real retro, like depression glass. Carlos, John Wray, this nice fellow from England, many others, and myself are now at least looking into the use of bleach in cleaning wood. Maybe the old ways had some merit. Craftsmanship can be like that.

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Shane,

Here is a picture of some old cedar enclosure doors on a PT deck job I finished staining yesterday. The wood had to be stripped and brightened with citric acid.

The stain and color is stock Ready Seal, medium red. Both of our finished cedar pics look almost identical. Sure you're not using Ready Seal or am I getting Baker's Grey Away in a competitor's packaging?

Paraffinic oil with high quality iron oxide pigments is the veritable cat's meow.

That's a nice color Rick it's like my Super Cedar after one coat.But it always looks a little different on diff ages of wood

RS and Gray Away are similar in oil but The Gray Away will have to be stirred because there is a good amount of pigment that will settle on the bottom.

They are to totally different formulas to make up their stain.

Who makes Ready Seal's oil it's not a Amteco product is it?

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Shane,

It is not Amteco. From what I know, Amteco is the stock base for Gray Away and TWP. Ready Seal is located in Weatherford(?), Texas, which I think is near the Dallas area. I am positive that the stain is built with paraffinic oil. The pigments are very finely ground iron oxides. A quick stir is all that is needed. The pigments are so fine, unless the container is stored for a very long time, they stay in suspension. A quick stir or shake and you are good to go for the day.

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Great job like always Shane, I want to get an invite to the bleach club. Don't make me beg lol.

Thanks John..:cool:

I think you could be a could candidate for the BDA..."Bleach Dwellers Association:" :D

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Shane,

It is not Amteco. From what I know, Amteco is the stock base for Gray Away and TWP. Ready Seal is located in Weatherford(?), Texas, which I think is near the Dallas area. I am positive that the stain is built with paraffinic oil. The pigments are very finely ground iron oxides. A quick stir is all that is needed. The pigments are so fine, unless the container is stored for a very long time, they stay in suspension. A quick stir or shake and you are good to go for the day.

RS is located in Lewisville which is also pretty close to Dallas.

The Gray Away stores ok for 4-6 months than the mineral sprirts have a tendency to evaporate with air temps rising a lowering.So the best way to stir Gray Away is with a drill and stir paddle.

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Jon,

Received your PM...pretty interesting. Check your inbox. Thanks for the heads-up.

Shane...I hereby nominate you "Grand Poo Paa of the Bleach Dwellers Association" LOL...

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Jon,

Shane...I hereby nominate you "Grand Poo Paa of the Bleach Dwellers Association" LOL...

Woo HOOO I hope it's a paying job...:lgjump:

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