Curb Appeal 14 Report post Posted November 16, 2006 I've only used an X-jet M5 til now. Filling and lugging 5gal totes is getting old. I'd like to try downstreaming and I bought one a few months ago. 20% adjustable The problem is, I bought it before I upgraded my 4gpm pump to my new 5.6gpm pump. So the one I have is the 2.1mm 3-5gpm model. What effect will the small orifice size have on my higher flow pump? Can I use it and compensate with stronger/weaker chems or do I need to just get the bigger one? Thanks all... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Curb Appeal 14 Report post Posted November 16, 2006 OK searched again and happened upon this thread http://forums.thegrimescene.com/showthread.php?t=6618&highlight=downstreaming+math So that answers my ? about the smaller orifice size. I'd like to know the math a bit better though. Mine is a 20% injector. That's 4:1 right? So my 50/50 mix of 12.5% and water (6% chlorine solution) at 4:1 makes it 1.2% chlorine TTW? Do I have that right? What part of the math would the smaller orifice have an effect on? The 20% draw rate? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GymRat 14 Report post Posted November 16, 2006 I'm not going to get into the ratios, because unless you test your draw rate, its only a guestimate. I would reccomend if you are downstreaming from a 5gallon bucket, Mix 4 gallons 12% sodium hypochorite, and one gallon of your normal house wash(citracleen etc.). This 5 gallons of house wash will be enough for most 2 story houses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PressurePros 248 Report post Posted November 16, 2006 I agree with John. That is the ratio we use as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Curb Appeal 14 Report post Posted November 16, 2006 Yeah, I'll test it in the real world instead of trying to work it out on paper. Then I'll know for sure. I'm using Bob's Simple Cherry. Thanks... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anthony G 14 Report post Posted November 16, 2006 What is the mix for the simple cherry and how are you mixing it? Does it have to be added to the bleach just before using it? I mixed some the other morning in a 2.5 gallon jug. I used 1.25 gallon SHC and mixed half gallon of hot water with 8 oz simple cherry then topped off with water. I used it about 4 hrs later and it reaked as usual of the chlorine smell. Am I doing something wrong or is it not working as I expected? Bob? Anthony Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
R. Williamson 14 Report post Posted November 16, 2006 The longer Simple Cherry is mixed with chlorine the less it will smell like cherry. Simple Cherry does not completely mask the smell of chlorine just helps hide it some. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keth 15 Report post Posted November 16, 2006 I think the recipe for a 5er on Bob's site is 3.5 gallons of SH and 1.5 gallons of water with an 8 ounce scoop of Simple Cherry. Couldn't be easier! I don't care about the smell of bleach cause I love it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Curb Appeal 14 Report post Posted November 17, 2006 I think the recipe for a 5er on Bob's site is 3.5 gallons of SH and 1.5 gallons of water with an 8 ounce scoop of Simple Cherry. Couldn't be easier! I don't care about the smell of bleach cause I love it. Not to be nit-picky but Bob's site recommends 2 8oz scoops per 5gal for downstreaming. Didn't want to confuse anybody. Do use 1 scoop or was it a typo? I mixed my first batch of Simple Cherry too strong. For using an X-jet, I mixed 2.5gal water - 2.5gal 12.5% - 10oz (by weight) SC. It left a noticeable film on all of the windows. I had to re-rinse all of them. I was supposed to mix 10oz by volume, not weight. Live & learn... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keth 15 Report post Posted November 17, 2006 Not to be nit-picky but Bob's site recommends 2 8oz scoops per 5gal for downstreaming. Didn't want to confuse anybody. Do use 1 scoop or was it a typo?I mixed my first batch of Simple Cherry too strong. For using an X-jet, I mixed 2.5gal water - 2.5gal 12.5% - 10oz (by weight) SC. It left a noticeable film on all of the windows. I had to re-rinse all of them. I was supposed to mix 10oz by volume, not weight. Live & learn... Sorry about the typo. You are correct. This is pasted direct from his site.... Downstreaming: 3.5 gallons of 12.5% chlorine, 1.5 gallons water & (2) 8oz scoops of Simple Cherry. X-Jet or M-Jet: 2 Gallons 12.5% chlorine, 3 gallons water & 10oz of Simple Cherry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Kiser 14 Report post Posted December 2, 2006 I'm not going to get into the ratios, because unless you test your draw rate, its only a guestimate. I would reccomend if you are downstreaming from a 5gallon bucket, Mix 4 gallons 12% sodium hypochorite, and one gallon of your normal house wash(citracleen etc.). This 5 gallons of house wash will be enough for most 2 story houses. Hey John, I am just starting to DS with CC, how much wax, rinse aid, and foamer are ya using in that mix if any?? THanks in advnace Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Sullivan 15 Report post Posted December 3, 2006 Joel, Bob has the best deals I have seen on the General 5-8gpm non-adjustable 20% High Draw injectors. I don't see the need for the adjustable injectors, they needlessly cost more. If you want a different ratio just mix your chemicals different. http://pressuretek.com/injectors.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GymRat 14 Report post Posted December 3, 2006 Hey John, I am just starting to DS with CC, how much wax, rinse aid, and foamer are ya using in that mix if any?? THanks in advnace I don't really measure, but I would say approximately 1/4 cup of foamer and approximately 1/4 cup of rinse aid and I normally don't add wax to my mix. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barry M 73 Report post Posted December 3, 2006 Hey John, I am just starting to DS with CC, how much wax, rinse aid, and foamer are ya using in that mix if any?? THanks in advnace 4oz foamer, 4oz wax, 8oz rinse aid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
