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pssst..can't say for horizontals but many old painters swear by 50/50 boiled flax and TWS :)

Well the way you affirm it John it does sound like a small outfit and you were dealing with the top..Why not just say who this ad paper is so no one else gets done up wrong?

I think since he has to have some sort of receipt when he paid and then a dated order for them to stop the ad that it will be up to them to provide a breakdown to a judge of exactly what service they provided to earn the full amount of funds. If there is no contract then I believe it be in Newheights favor. The ad people I delt with last week do not offer receipts via fax but my credit card charge will work just fine as such. Hey one other thing here..sometimes sales people are trained to use verbage that implies no refund but really all they mean is that THEY can't approve refunds and you will have to speak to a manager or the correct accounting branch of their company... People are sneaky at times..

Yes you should be mad if you were not informed of a final editing deadline.. If you paid by credit card maybe you can recover since for one your not getting what you were told you were going to get in final edit approval and heck they haven't provided and printed the later ads yet. Has to be some sort of cease and desist order you can do to prevent them false advertising you. Small claims should recover what wasn't provided after that point. You didn't sign any contract saying refunds for services not rendered will not be given..It requires agreement to not pay people back what they paid for but were not compensated for in the way of service or product is my feeling..

Painter wear white cause in old days that was the main color and it didn't show.. it sorta stuck after awhile. My father always wore white and but was aways rather clean no matter what color he was using. His hair was always speckled though.. I have been getting the orange V at the neckline lately from over atomization of my spray. Seriously thought about going orange outfits but I am scrapping the idea. Would look like an escapey from the prizon or Cal Trans workers. Gonna stick with white.

Anyone got a form showing a variety of selectable services offered that can be faxed or emailed to clients to fill out and send back? Maybe something letting them select a prefurred time frame for to give estimate or even an approval for doing a casual stop at their location as time allows. I got some people playing phone tag and email tag with me and need them to commit more to the process. Think such a form would also let folks know that your not ignoring them when ya just can't seem to hook up. PM's and Real Estate folk maybe the worst offenders. Probably weed out the non serious price shopper people that don't get it that our time, advice, marketing efforts, estimating efforts are not a game and costs us.

Well my goal here was to help people not hurt themselves is all..you know like in the field. Can't speak to shipping classifications or help you on that. But as far as the flash point thing goes it directly relates to how quik and how much the product gives up it's flammables in evaporation/turning to a gasious form...aka-volatile.. VOC content would relate to the topic. Check it out as a side note/trivia..you know a peanut will burn but it won't flash at normal environmental conditions right? They are high in carbs (energy)/peanut oil is why they burn. Will it combust? pretty sure at some point...just harder then regular vegitable oil. That why chinese folk and turkey deep fryers use it. During a spill with regular oil air combines with it to combust/burn at lower temps. Perhaps in getting back to topic we can agree maybe the best wording to use for RS is that it is not greatly flammable. Am not gonna throw a match in a fiver to see what happens as I've already tested a tablespoons worth and it puts out a nice mellow flame..nothing like gasoline or lacquer flashing though.

Ken, Am just the messenger here. I didn't write it on the label..RS did... Was not going to be the one to knit pick on the differences between a flame, a combustion, a spontanious combustion, or an explosion. Just gonna respect it. But so you know, spontanious refers to reactions that will happen whether you do anything wrong or not. As to your question about whether spraying makes something more combustable rather than flamable.. Combustion is when you introduce oxygenor other gas so answer is really both. You get flame from the mix of oxygen and the solvent. Hey if someone wants to be picky about it we could refer them to the gasolene combustion engine versus the deisel combustion engine. Different flash points yadda yadda but they still combust. One by a spark the other by heat and pressure. So anyways, Ken your the pressure guy.. you know the difference between a combustion and an explosion.. :) ps- I used the term 'spontanious' when speaking to the overall picture of dealing with 'many' solvents and not perticularly relating it to RS. So not sure why you imply I said such..

Best I got there is 53gal for $2.20 with $40 deposit. I looked and couldn't find anybody near you really but one would think there has to be. Did you check with Ace as some sell them in cases. Other than finding an actual chem supplier your best bet probably 10% from walmart. Don't know much about the air thing.. :) I just use the regular twin full face for some jobs and then a half twin while burnishing floors.

Goto Napa Auto and get the white Tyvek suit.They are cool and you will look really cool in them... :) ..or some of them carry the semi-used overalls. I have a battery powered full face posative air respirator I would probably part with. I'll stick it on the Ebay if ya like. Likely to go for a c note on there though so it might be a bit pricey for ya.

wow there... it is so combustible!...says so right on the label in fact. Stick a match partway to it and you'll find out. ..burns just like a kerosene lamp it does. :) Spraying it could result in a more serious flame once you get air into it. Anyone that uses oil based stains and solvents should always keep the rags, sheets, etc. outside away from buildings and actually have both a fire extinguisher and a lidded metal fire can (trash can) on board during transportation to store them in. Many solvents can self combust in the right conditions!!

Scott, Thanx for clarifying what I meant on the pitched ends. ..Ln. Ft. x the triangles height /2 ... then add that to the main rectangles area below. :)

Also, If you want to figure the pitched ends multiply the ln.ft. of the wall in question by the peak height and divide by 2. :)

let's call him in middle of the night..lol email pdf it to me Ron..cheaper that way

Yea I've heard they got some such thing round these parts too for at least the residential..doesn't apply to the act of dropping sales materials far as I understand it. Applies to knocking on doors and actual meet and greet attempts.

No Jeff we are not worlds apart...Was meaning to be funny..I don't do 3 cent buildings...thaz just nuts. :) Way I see this job is approx. 336 ln.ft. per building x 25' (height and eaves) x about $.07. I'd be nice and disregard pricing in the balconies or the pitched ends. I'd do 2 buildings per day with a helper and gross $1176 per day for 5 days...I'd ladder the balcony since it two story and shoot the rest from the ground. 3 story another ball game..

Think some use an inhibited coil cleaner cycled through only parts of the system. I cycle diluted hydrochloric myself for a very brief period of like less than a minute and then flush real good with clean water. Fear being it will eat the metals... Note this is a loop made only through the coil or directly through just the main hose and/or downstreamer. Am not brave enough to put it through the unloader or pump.

come on ,he's pulling yer leg. :) .. chemical is gonna be half penny...what about gas, mickey d's, and pepsi? He musta meant half a dime..Jefffff....yer killing us with them lowball rates!! lol ok... I'll go down to $.03

Does it fail anymore so as an undercoat below a solid than anything else might? I'de be inclined to take it off to avoid potential grip failure of the new stuff if it really comes off as easy as Rod says.

you lie like a rug Ken...ROTFLOL :)

Yes lol. no didn't mention pressure washing but it been in my blood a few year now as a tool for cleaning. Mostly that what people want is things clean and shiny. Tomorrow it will be a small concrete bird bath with the hand tools and exterior lacquer and then next week it will be 15k' of concrete floor with auto equipment and waterbase..oh the life of doing the grind....God we need help shooting the breeze here everyday don't we?..You do know most folks are so busy working they have no time for resumes.

Doubt I can be much help but to further the topic can you tell us how many buildings, how many stories, is the 68k a single story interior measurement or did you already figure ln.ft. into sq. ft. to come to that ? Depending on configuration and actual amount of wall footage I'd think job could be anywhere between $2k and $8k or more even. I mean you could have actual sq.ft. only 20k or 40k with 10 single story bulidings 12' high or you could have double that with two stories. .. Think you really got to know your cost of materials per sq. ft. before you can consider being competative with using a sq. ft. method of pricing. Maybe you'll have to use 200 gal, 400 gal, or double that for two story..surely the condo king Jeff will jump in... shoot him a pm..

Ken Thanx for tttt... I like the way it is written to inspire. Does anyone pick up on or see a relation to the idea that we are not really selling jobs?. The 'selling benefits' or ourselves over competiton is the end game. I don't want to sell a job. I want callers that are already sold on getting job done and have some decent amount of prior knowledge on what things cost if that not too much to ask please..haha. Hey Ken do you happen to know of or heard of this sales guru guy that goes around on talk radio explaining in depth the conflicted idea that you can't really 'sell' an item.? I am a bit uncomposed in being able to explain it so therefore I could use it...maybe shoot the guys name out if you ever run up on it.

Smart folks read them Ken or those that hang around....many others just don't have time as they be out there doing the grind. I for one totally appreciate your business insight..Marketing and strategy seems to really be your element.. :)

Ken, Thanx for the background.. Wasn't questioning it though. Remember you brung theory into this concerning my experience...Since were offering resume's.. I've personally serviced commercial office, warehouse, retail, indistrial clients in route janitorial cleaning, floor care, carpet care, and widow care for over 20 years. I humbly would think you understand what kind of experience is gained from attending to such various types of locations night in night out(150+ arrivals in a month alone). I've serviced fine dine-in establishments, daycares, paint manufactures, salons, nastiest grease joints imaginable,parts warehouses. Way too much to list let alone remember. Use what you like and what works for you or doesn't get you in trouble is my best suggestion...