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    • what caustic does to your arms it does to your lungs,  this is a no brainer. ppe is never fun but  neither is early death or lung problems. My friend runs an asbestos abatement company, and weekly they do safety reminders to wear their protective gear, and  even after years of reminders they guys get lazy and don't wear it. even though they knowthe risks they still think that the moment is more important than their future health.  
    • Sometimes hoods i clean require no wiping, they dry perfectly. other times its all white and chalky.  Im using the same chemical, i think its the hardness of the water, and i think the hotter the water you use the more it deposits it.  nothing consistent, so if you want and are asked for a polished look just plan to polish it, but you may get lucky sometimes.try a cold water rinse or a deionized water.   
    • Cellular structure and pores of the wood are two completely different scales.
      Soft woods don't have pores. They consist of elongated fibers. Hard woods do have pores but I doubt these are
      the ones you are referring to in your post.
      The cells of the wood are closed and cannot be imbued with anything without compromising the integrity of the cell.
      Scientifically speaking, everything we do to wood happens at the surface and barely penetrates through to the substrate or
      underlying layers. Considering that this product is designed for cedar (according to the website), I don't see much use in
      pressure treated lumber which already has the protection installed.
      Cedar is best protected from damage by simply sealing the end grain with an appropriate sealer upon installation. Baring that, there is
      no practicality for this product to be installed unless it can be done before construction.

      Stains last longer on vertical surfaces due to lack of environmental degradation and UV exposure is indirect in most cases where
      this longevity is observed.
      My question with the claims to increasing/impeding wood dynamic expansion etc is due to the inability to access all sides of the deck
      boards/ends etc. Without installing it before the installation, I don't see the claim as reasonably accurate.
      Furthermore, using a silicone derivative to seal wood prevents any stain from being able to adhere seeing as they are notorious for
      setting up a repellent feature that stains are not manufactured to adhere.
      Keeping that in mind, its use on a commercial scale is unsuitable as homeowners are always looking to add their own flair to the deck
      in a color scheme(s) that compliments the landscaping and house. Having a bare deck greying from UV degradation and being unable
      to apply a stain that will have any reasonable duration becomes a deterrent.
      Applying this product before any stain would also Void any manufacturer warranty because it would impeded penetration considering the
      bulk of stains produced today are now hybrids and water based to begin with.

      Forgive the argument, but when it comes to wood, I am a champion of informing people and not just letting simple claims create a money
      waste situation for the customer or the applicator.
      In your post, I don't feel you have addressed these concerns properly and according to the website, did not find any evidence of compatibility
      with any brand on the market. That in and of itself is a problem because it sets up a liability for the applicator and unreasonable expectations
      for the homeowner since there are NO examples or proven trials, no accolades attesting the claims and no photos showing any duration that
      can provide any confidence in the products capabilities or applicable uses.

      As far as termites on cedar...yes, immature growth is susceptible but if a treatment is required, many stains on the market already incorporate
      a preservative. If not, there are alternatives that do not impede the application of a stain or sealer otherwise.
      Btw, the video and its presentation are outdated. CCA wood hasn't been produced since the ban went into effect 12/31/2003 most decks are
      now comprised of treatments that have little detriment to human exposure.

      Again, in the website, there are no photos or testimonials validating the claims.

    • So now that you guys have all theorized about how good this product is i have been applying this product for the past fourteen years and even though this line of discussion is dated probably id like to add my two cents worth to the topic. Now as you have pointed out with the uv protection that the pigment would tone down over time and make the boards succeptable to damage caused by the uv greying the wood out over time. The appropriate way of application ensures that it penetrates the cellular structure and actually fills the pores of the wood. There is not really a color to it other than a very vague tinge of the cedar oil. and the greying occurs over time not so much from uv damage but dirt and grime being on the surface of the wood. Not from damage being done by the sun. I always recommend to my clients that they take their garage washer and a little deck brightener to the deck annually or offer to include it as an annual maintenance program i suggest to my customers. If your worried about the uv and want to apply a stain over the top of the petriwood you can and i also recommend it as a pretreatment to my clients as once again it has filled the cellular structure. So the wood doesnt swell with the humidity as it cant penetrate it, the warranty protects you from cupping cracking and twisting so when it is applied it makes the wood more solid to put it into laymens terms. My stain jobs last alot longer than if i dont use it and i have had stain projects last upwards of 8 years on vertical surfaces as the boards dont expand and contract, so the coating applied doesnt have the substrate swelling up or squeezing so the coating is not damaged by the substrate it is applied to just the limitations of the stain itself. Also bugs hate this product, I applied it to a clients wicker patio furniture and you should have seen them come running out of it. Also ice doesnt form on it and that is pretty big if you live in south dakota, also that green slime on the north side of the house cannot grow on it. The silicone in the product is actually silane solution which is used to seal concrete on a regular basis and as you know you can stain concrete after the sealant has been applied. So that being said ive been using it about 14 years and it is a wonderful product and recommend it to any and all professional painters, and wood finishing pros out there. As far as the utility poles they are recommended to be treated prior to install by a dip tank process. and the application of the product for us deck guys is to apply the solution until it cannot  be absorbed into the substrate any more usually two coats with a diaphram sprayer or bug sprayer you can use an airless but i suggest a seperate one for the petriwood because when it and water meet it starts to gel up and will harden in the material lines if you clean it out with water fyi. Hope this helps yall and you can add tints to it just has to be a powdered tint. Thats all the info i got for you guys to absorb. I hope it helps and yes it does work like it says I applied it to my fathers decking about 14 years ago no rot replacement of wood or dryrot on any surface to date every year i give it a wash and it still repells the water like it did when i first applied it.  
    • We are a fire protection company that recently started exhaust cleaning. Thought it would be a great idea to pair the two. What I’m beginning to learn is 70% of new customers are using us because they just got a visit from local AHJ and need it done ASAP.  They also want to haggle because they think they are bundling and should get both cheaper. So I tell them I will do a no charge for materials (plastic and towels) or handling (chemical use). 😁 
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