Tonyg
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12 Months almost to the day. I think I've decided to stay away from the toners in the future after a couple that seemed to wash out after a year. This was in between a semi trans/toner blend.
The deck after cleaning looked like the area around the planter spot. The house wash took off most everything that was left and I wouldn't say there was any/much oil left in the wood.
Should I plan on using the original stain and take the chance on it being darker (since it may wash out with the cleaning) or do you use the Natural? Should I expect that much of the stain to come off when cleaning for maintenance?
Took some pics of the finish today
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The first three are before I started - the last was where the planter was after I cleaned it
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Close ups after cleaning
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Ok, I've done a few repeat decks but found that they waited so long that I just did a light strip and recoated. Just did my first real maintenance coat for a customer from last year (http://www.thegrimescene.com/forums/wood-cleaning-restoration-decks-fences-etc/19690-my-acrylic-strip-year.html) that wanted to have it recoated and freshened up. This is PT Pine with 2 coats of semi-trans (AC Rustic Brown/Cedar Semi/Natural) applied exactly 12 months ago.
First problem was that the original coat had faded significantly and was dark like it almost seemed to have a mildew (or maybe it was just age?)
Sold them on a house wash since I was going to do the deck too and just down streamed a mix with just Simple Cherry & 1% SH. Let dwell for about 15min or so and ran a deck brush over it lightly. I noticed it looked as though the stain was dissolving as it was dwelling. Used a 2540 soap tip to rinse.
I was very surprised at how much of the stain remained and was very nervous about recoating since I had ordered the Natural to recoat as I had been advised before. I did have a gallon of the original so I was able to add some color but now I am worried that there is only a toner on it (at least more so than last year)
I think I definitely need to re-adjust my expectations and those I am selling to my customers. Did I use the best process and cleaners? should the stain have come up that easy? Do you normally apply the same/original stain, or a lighter version, or just Natural (assuming the AC)?
These are the 1) original finished 12 months ago 2) before cleaning 3) and after cleaning 4) Finish product
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Woohoo, ink is on the paper and I thank God for the work. Turns out it is going two-toned anyway with AC Sequoia and White. Still not exactly sure where the accents are going to be with the white - the wife and husband disagreed on exactly what was to be stained what so I told them we had a couple months to decide. He wants the balusters stained solid white and the rails and posts stained semi - she disagrees. He wants the kick board on the steps stained solid - she disagrees. Dunno.
Celeste, I am going to send them your pick with the railings. Do you have anymore from this deck? This is as close to the color scheme I could give them as an example for just doing the balusters.
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Beth do yall caulk your 4x4s and around all the spindles on your two tone jobs?To me 'painting' and 'staining' are two different animals. When painting an item the caulk is standard procedure. Staining does not get caulked. I know to most there is no diffrence but applying a solid stain is staining :)
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Beth, I remembered that deck you posted last year and was actually going to send them a pic of the Woodland Brown. I received a favorable response from them for the estimate, though not a done deal, but they said they are leaning toward the two-tone. I am thinking of maybe making some samples of the Mountain Cedar and the Nantucket White if I can close the sale. Still not sure how I like the WB.
Does anyone have and pictures of the Mountain Cedar in a two-tone?
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I think after the last one I did, after calculating MH, I decided to go with 2x my normal rate.
Is it possible to to only clean and stain one side of these or would the stain/cleaner discolor the other side too badly?
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Show us your sheild Bro!!!!!!!I'd love to see it.
standard spray shield http://www.bigpaintstore.com/lda-420-710.html?synertech&utm_source=gbaselive.com&utm_medium=google&utm_campaign=synertech.net
and drops:
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Fences go quick for me and a shield in one hand for the top is easy and much faster.
In places where stain must not go through or over I have used 2 2x4's and a 9x12 drop cloth. Nail the corner of the drop cloth to the top end of the 2x4 and drop them on the other side to lean against the fence. Spray 12ft then move one pole for another 12ft.
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Tony,You have a good eye! The first coat was actually in a lighter color, then the decision was made to match the siding which was darker, and that picture was taken after one coating just the sides with the darker...
Can't help it - I'm a painter (Beth, we need a painter smiley, although that could be a bad thing as well)
I did a deck last year with a light grey, dark grey, and cream color. I really like the idea and appearance and it made it more custom.
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Thanks Celeste, I think I'll probably not recommend using a solid on the fronts. I didn't pay too much attention to the edges while there and didn't get any closer pics.
The way this deck is contrcted I'm just trying to see where the accents could be and still have the two-tone look good. Although, when they see the difference in the estimate to go two-tone that may solve the problem altogether.
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Charlie, I like the way the semi looks on to pf your pic. I hadn't even thought about the corner being worn down or chipped making the line look bad. Thanks.
Doug, is that 3 colors with the 2x12 in a darker gray?
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That would be great Charlie! A picture always helps with expectations so they don't hate it when done.
The boards would be removed and debris cleaned out to tighten them which should minimize the gaps.
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Working on a quote for sizable deck. This may potentially be a two-tone finish with white trim, railings, accents, etc. All the others I've done had the deck boards on top of the fascia/riser boards but this one is trimed out with the 2x8.
The question is should the top of the riser be painted with the board or stopped with just the vertical surface. Would it wear badly or look goofy?
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Last week I used cedar tone for a pine ceiling, super cedar for the cedar posts and trim and Woodland brown for the deck underneath.Do you have pics of this one? I'd really like to see the Woodland Brn and Cedar Semi two-tone
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I'm doing Decks! :lgjump:
OK, make that Deck. Took advantage of a rare day above 50 degrees. Can't wait for spring!
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So what color/stain is it?
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The UDF-30 interested me for possible use on a couple of restaurant patios after Paragon mentioned it above. I ran across this blog post that probably should be thrown into the mix for considering product choice. I'll continue doing some research as I am always looking for niche products.
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I have a house tomorrow with an 8' banana tree a foot or two off the house. How sensitive are they to a standard house wash?
It's not exactly indigenous to our area.
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It's hard to pick one color as they look so much different depending on the age of the wood. I think I like the blended colors much more than the stock colors but if I had to choose one that may be more versatile than the others it would have to be the cedar-semi (albeit too orange for me). The Super Cedar looks absolutely great on new wood (PT) but is probably my least favorite on old wood. Redwood Tone looks nice on older wood but might as well be a neon light on new wood.
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Love the green two-tone! great new ideas for color scemes :)
You really did do a great job around the balusters. They look like wood - no problem stripping around them?
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Used mine twice. First time had some issues and the second worked well but for some reason wasn't able to clean it properly - Of course I ruined it and turned it into a glob filled truck brush :( I originally bought it for a screened in porch but it can come in handy in the wind.
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I like that 'Nantucket White' - who's color is that for a match? That's the first time I've seen the Woodland Brown where I really liked it. Might have to try to sell that color scenario on the next one :) Great job!
First Maintenance Coat
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Jim, I thought I remember reading somewhere someone using RS on dry wood and then top coat with something else - was that you? Do you use a 'natural' or neutral color for the RS base? Doesn't AC have just as much oils - albeit parrafinic and linseed?
When you say it needs oil are you talking about the finished pics?