Everett Abrams

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CCPC, I am not here to bash any product. CWF is not considered to be a premium product. If you ask most of the "experts" you will find that it is not used or recommended. That should tell you something right there. As far a sealers go, CWF is not a penetrating sealer. It is not an easy product to maintain either. I am not as knowlegable with the new Flood Spa N' Deck product. I will be testing it myself in the next week to see how it holds up. I believe there are quite a few who are testing this product as well. It will be interesting to see the results over the next couple of years. Another word of advice would be to get up to speed on different products. Learn what is considered a quality coating and which ONE you are going to hang your hat on. If you are going to be the expert you should be recommending products to your customers and not them telling you what to put on. This of course is my opinion and if would like any help please feel free to contact me. Good luck with the deck.

Celeste, Thank you for asking. The course follows a detailed look at Wood Restoration. The following are the topics: 1. The Wood Market and Potential 2. Safety 3. Washing Equipment 4. Finishing Equipment 5. A detailed look at chemicals and their uses 6. Species and types of wood 7. Procedures and Washing 8. Coating and Sealing Methods 9. Estimating 10. Standards 11. Review 12. Test and Certification Other topics covered include alternative methods, composites, marketing, tips, etc.

Lou, Depending on when you are planning on getting started there will be a lot of used rigs for sale shortly. This always happens at the end of the season and before the holidays. You can usually get great deals. I do not know if you have any trade papers down there. Here we have "Trad'in Times" and they usually show up there.

Jon, Happy Birthday. I am glad to hear you got serviced on your B-day!

Not chlorine bleach. Soap in the mixture is what I was agreeing to.

I agree with Mick Foley. You should had some soap to the mixture. A light detergent is all that is needed.

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I will certainly be posting pics of this one. It is a "bigg'in"

Paul B. Can you send this to the Democratic Convention? Wait, nevermind, someone has to teach them how to read first.

To have the "green" embedded that much you would have to say this deck has not been maintained correctly for some time. When this is the case and you have a heavy build up of mold, mildew, and algae you should go for the stripper and then brighten. After you get a few under your belt you will realize how much easier and better the outcome than using any kind of bleach and even having to go back over it. That isn't even taking into account how much time you will save. Something to understand about bleach is that it will react with what it hits first. If it has algae on it, then mildew on top of that, and dirt and debris on top of that, guess what? You are spinning wheels and will be reapplying all day. Grab the sodium hydroxide and brighten.

We see everything here. Many homes do have combonations of stucco and cedar, vinyl and cedar, brick and cedar, and so on. We have done two at $8500 that were all cedar. Right now we are working on a project of 290 decks and the buildings. It is a great time of year for this project as most folks are taking vacations and most of the work is done until after Labor Day. Bigger jobs are always more profitable. I would rather do large commercial jobs and houses over most residential decks anyday. I love the costs of living in Joisy!

seymore, When you say "most houses" I am not sure exactly what you mean. In this area $3,000.00 is probably the lowest you would go to cor a cedar sided house. I have gotten as much as $8,500.00 for a cedar sided house, in this area.

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Rambo, The Finish warranty is for new wood only. If you would like call me about the different products and how they hold up.

Rambo, Ideally, since it was already cleaned and sealed with an oil base finish, this is what you should stay with. The best coating for wood is oils that penetrate and fill the wood pores. I would lightly clean and recoat with a maintenance coat, provided it isn't too far gone. Why are you considering using an acrylic solid? Also, when coating previously coated wood I believe they recommend using the Problem Solver Primer. In regards to pricing, it depends on what you are doing. Are you cleaning only or stripping? What type of surface prep is involved? What are the height factors? What type of finish or coating. I will tell you that to apply a solid correctly the prices of $.75-$1.25/sq.ft. are on the low side.

Congratulations Jon! Can you now charge more?

Jon, Good luck on the certification. Let us know how you make out.

To me an "Old Fart" is defined as the one's where you are lying in bed under the covers and you fart. Then 20 minutes later your spouse or significant other come in and pull open the cover and WHAM! They got hit with the "Old Fart!"

My grandmother use to call my grandfather an "old fart" all the time. One day they came to visit my Mom in the hospital(back problems) and the showed up wearing two hats. His said "Old Fart", hers said "Old Fart's Wife." Needless to say they brought down the house. That was about 1980 or so. Anyway this thread made me think of that!

If Jon got naked for a guy then there is more to this story, Jon?

Jon, By the way, if she comes back could you do me a big favor? Tell her I like to feel stupid and cheap and give her my address!

Amen Reed! The perception of the customer when you use the moisture meter just adds to the professional image.

Jon, Who knocked on your door? Was it Dan Cosgrove? The man is just sick I tell ya! LOL

I carry Simple Green in my arsenal. It works well for many applications and circumstances. It is great on the aluminum siding if it is fairly recent. Once it is set a bit I go to the other previous recommendations.