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We had a good turn out at the Memphis Hooters Roundtable Meeting and here are some pictures.

We were getting set up for Steven to show the Pitch Witch and we rolled it around on my shop and let everybody get a feel for it. Many thanks to Chuck from Cleaner Times for letting me download these pictures and sharing them with everyone.

The tip in the picture being used is the tip Steven does decks with and in the picture he has his hand in front of the stream of water showing the guys how low the pressure really is. :D

We tested the new X-Jets draw rate and the old X-Jets draw rate with a #9 orifice in them. They each were between 36 to 39 seconds per gallon on a 4gpm machine. They tested on the pressure gage at around 1500psi. We also tested an X-Jet with the #13 orifice in it and the pressure tested at 600psi and a draw rate of 39 seconds on the 4 gmp machine. We also tested some tips you will notice in the picture the pressure gage right before the wand.:D

One more showing the wand. :D

Steven then showed the difference between the Coress wand and the Yellow extension wand :D

Then Steven tore down a pump and showed how to rebuild a pump.

Of course we went to Hooters and ate at the Roundtable:D

One more at Walmart:D

The first three are us meeting up at WalMart:D

I went and looked and you guys are right it is already in the Zap my mistake.:D

Beth I dont know the rules about linking to other boards but there are just to many pictures to repost so I am going to post the link on TheCleanerNetwork if you dont allow this please delete and accept my apology however I just want to share the pics with everyone on the board. :D http://www.thecleanernetwork.com/showthread.php?t=253

Thanks Beth if you would prefer you can delete this and I will post them here it will just take a while to copy and paste the writing but I will do it. It was late last night when I posted and today is another day.:D

I didnt realize that Beth sold a gutter cleaner if that is the case then I should not have brought up anything!!!!!!:whoops:

I know Jon but after some of the Heated discussions I just felt it best to back off from posting here Im sure some of the people on this board were probably saying oh no not that guy again:whoops: I am just an outspoken guy but I have trouble typing my thoughts as I try to take short cuts on the typing. I dont mind helping anyone and will be alittle more active here than I have been in the past year. I hope all is well with you Jon.:D

Beth I read here everyday and will be glad to help people out when I can. I hope your season has gone good. I am getting ready to shift into washing trucks and farm equipment as my residental work has almost dried up. I will shift back into the residental side of work again in the spring.

Paul I just want to point out one thing the Gutter Shock already has Sodium Hydroxide in it were as the Gutter Zap and 675 does not.:D

That very post is were I got the idea to do what I posted above. It was posted quite some time ago and was posted by Russell so now you know that the 80 can be mixed stronger but will not stay that strong for very long. John this is the only way I know of to make the 80 strong enough to X-Jet at full strength and like I said before Saftey gear is a must. I hope I have helped you find a way to do it but I also dont recommend any newbie trying this because if you make one slip you will be in the hospital hurting very badly.

Mike I do have a ball valve on the end of my hose the purpose of the wand is so that I can get my face as far away from the hole as possible and the purpose for the soap tip is to give it a little more agitation than without one remember you are mixing something that is suppose not to be mixed and is very dangerous we are not talking about mixing it the regular way otherwise your method is the same as mine. We are trying to get twice the amount of powder to dissolve as what the manufactor says will dissolve. I hope this clears it up a bit.:D

Paul Steves 675 and Gutter Zap are about the same in strength and yes I have used both so I am speaking from experience. Here is the MSDS sheet for the Gutter Shock off of Stevens Web site compare the two for yourself. DESCRIPTION: RPC 271 GUTTER SHOCK was designed especially for those stubborn gutter stains that require something stronger that RPC 675. This product is 50% stronger than RPC 675. Contains Sodium Hydroxide. USDA Approved. PHYSICAL DATA: Appearance / Odor: yellow / green / butyl Physical State: Liquid Boiling Point: 212° F Freeze Point: 30° F Specific Gravity: 105 pH Concentrate: 13.2 1% pH Dilution: 11.7 Solubility in Water: Complete Vapor Pressure: 17mmHg Vapor Density (air=1): >1 Evaporation Rate (water=1): >1 MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET SECTION 1 PRODUCT IDENTIFICATION ROWLETT PRESSURE CLEANING SERVICE 143 Rainbow Place LaVergne, TN 37086 Inquiry Phone: (800) 357-6295 Emergency Phone: (800) 535-5035 Prepared on 1/4/01 PRODUCT NAME: RPC 271 GUTTER SHOCK PRODUCT CODE: 22410 NFPA hazard codes: NFPA acute hazard rating: Health: 2 Flammability: 0 Reactivity: 1 0 = Least 1 = Slight 2 = Moderate 3 = High 4 = Extreme SECTION 2 CHEMICAL COMPOSITION Note: List all CERCLA hazardous substances at l% or greater and CARCINOGENS at 0.1% or greater. TLV / STEL / INGREDIENT (chemical name) CAS# % range P E L TWA Ceiling Skin Sodium Hydroxide 1310-73-2 <1 2mg/m³ N/A 2mg/m³ 2-Butoxyethanol 111-76-2 <10 50ppm 25ppm 50 ppm * Sodium Metasilicate 6834-92-0 <5 N/A N/A N/A Sodium Ethylenediamina Tetraacetate 64-02-8 <5 N/A N/A N/A NonylphenolPoly(oxyetheylene) 9016-45-2 <5 N/A N/A N/A * Note: Sodium Hydroxide is a SARA TITLE III SECTION 304 material subject to reporting by user within the manufacturing section. * OHSA requires skin protection to prevent or reduce exposure to this product. SECTION 3 EMERGENCY & FIRST AID PROCEDURES EYE CONTACT: Immediately flush with large amounts of water for at least l5 minutes, lifting upper and lower lids occasionally. Get immediate medical attention. SKIN CONTACT: Immediately flush exposed area with water for at least 15 minutes. If irritation occurs, get medical attention. INHALATION: Remove individual to fresh air. If symptoms persist, get immediate medical attention. INGESTION: Do not induce vomiting. Dilute by giving water and fruit juice. Get immediate medical attention. NOTE TO PHYSICIAN: Contains 2-Butoxyethanol and Sodium Hydroxide SECTION 4 PHYSIOLOGICAL EFFECTS PRIMARY ROUTE(S) OF ENTRY INTO BODY: Skin contact, Ingestion. ACUTE EFFECTS: Eyes: Redness, watering. Skin: Redness, irritation. Inhalation: Irritation, coughing. Ingestion: Burning sensation, nausea. CHRONIC EFFECTS: Causes liver and kidney damage. SECTION 5 OCCUPATION CONTROL PROCEDURES VENTILATION: Local exhaust. PERSONAL PROTECTION: Respirator type: None required if concentration is below TLV/PEL. Otherwise use NIOSH approved CCROV or better respirator. Gloves: Chemical resistant gloves required. Eye Protection: Chemical splash goggles. SECTION 6 PHYSICAL DATA Appearance/odor: Clear yellow / green / butyl Physical state: Liquid Boiling Point: 212° F Freeze Point: 30° F Specific Gravity: 1.05 pHconcentrate: 13.2 1 % pH dilution: 11.7 Solubility in water: Complete Vapor pressure: 17 mmHg Vapor density (air=1): >1 Evaporation rate (water= 1): >1 SECTION 7 FIRE & EXPLOSION DATA Flash point: None. Method: T.C.C. Flammable (explosive) limits in air: N/A. Suitable extinguishing media: Water/foam. Hazardous combustion bi-products: Carbon Monoxide. Recommended fire fighting procedures: Firefighters should wear waterproof protective clothing. Unusual fire & explosive hazards: None. SECTION 8 REACTIVITY DATA Stability: Stable. Conditions to avoid: Extreme high heat. Hazardous decomposition products: None. Hazardous polymerization: Will not occur. Incompatibility: Material to avoid: Strong acids. Corrosive action on material: Moderate on soft metals such as aluminum. SECTION 9 STORAGE & HANDLING PRECAUTIONS Storage: Store at temperatures below 120° F. Do not allow to freeze. Handling: Wear proper gloves, boots, eye and face protection when handling. Precautionary labeling: Corrosive. SECTION 10 ENVIRONMENTAL INFORMATION Spill or leak procedures: Small spill/leak: Neutralize with vinager or citric acid.. Large spill/leak: Mop up excess. Neutralize with vinager or citric acid. Collect solution in containers for disposal. Spill reportable quantity: 100,000 pounds or more. Waste disposal method: Consign to waste facility approved by federal, state, and local regulations. RCRA or appropriate waste classification: By Characteristic. Procedures for handling empty containers: Triple rinse. Environmental toxicity data: Biodegradable. Other regulatory controls: Is material classified under the CLEAN WATER ACT (USA) or appropriate water regulations as: Toxic pollutant? No. Hazardous substance (SECTION 302)? No. If yes, reportable quantity (R.Q.). N/A. Is material classified under the CLEAN AIR ACT (USA) or appropriate CLEAN AIR regulations as: Hazardous air pollutant (SECTION 12)? No. SECTION 11 PRODUCT IDENTIFICATION Indicate country/regulatory agency which specifies requirements: USA-DOT/IMO Proper shipping name: COMPOUND, CLEANING, LIQUID (containing Sodium Hydroxide) Hazard class: 8 Identification number: NA1760 Packing Group: II Labels required: Product, Corrosive PRODUCT NAME: RPC 271 GUTTER SHOCK PRODUCT CODE: 22410 PREPARED: 1/4/01 I dont readily have the MSDS with me on the Zap but it you have one please compare the two.:D

Gav I fully understand what you are saying I was just wanting to through in another view point for you thats all. Good luck also have you tried the Gutter Shock it is twice as strong as the Zap. When applying the Shock I mix the solution 50/50 and then X-Jet on bad gutters and if their not that bad I back the solution down even more. Check the prices and compare the two plus factor in the fact that it can be X-Jetted and the time it will save you. Family time is worth something also. Just a thought!!!!!!:D

Ok I got the go ahead so hear it goes. First and formost you need saftey gear when doing this so dont just try this without it. First off I dont have to use the 80 at full strength very often as you can mix it up at full strength and X-Jet to remove most easy stains such as Wolmans, Cuprinol and so forth. In order to get a stronger mix you have to mix the 80 in a 5 or something with a top on it so that you can turn your burner on and use your pressure washer with very hot water to mix the solution. I use a soap tip at 5 gallons a min and I cover the hole up before sqeezing the trigger. This will mix the solution and I use it right away. This has been the only way that I have found to get a stronger mix out of the X-Jet. !!!!!!!!!!!WARNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is very dangerous and should be done with the utmost care and caution. I dont do this very often and really dont recommend this to anyone that doesnt have all the saftey gear. The HD-80 will remove most any stain when mixed full strength and X-Jetted without doing this. But there are times when if you are going to use the X-Jet that you have to do it this way. Use this method at your own risk like I said I have not had to do this but a couple of times when using the 80. This post if for discussion only please keep all remarks profesional as I dont want my comments to turn into a slam fest because I do realize this is very dangerous.:D

Gav I just wanted to show you another view point and this is only my two cents worth. Time is money in this business as we all know. For the few cents you are saving by not X-Jetting the gutters you are wasting in time that it takes you to scrub the gutters. In other words would it not in the long run make you more money to get in and get out faster. AS stated above this is only my view point and is meant for discussion purposes only.

I am going to touch on this a little bit. I have talked with Beth as many have seen in other post with a little heated discussion about this at times and for fear of starting this all over I would rather not discuss this topic on this board. You can Email me or goto one of the other boards such as thecleanernetwork and I would be glad to discuss this with you. I choose to do this out of respect for Beth and her methods and will not discuss this here as she does not condone the use of HD-80 and X-Jets together. However if she gives me the go ahead I will discuss it here. I hope I have not offended anyone but this is to keep from offending the owners of this board and I do respect them. :D

Scott your welcome I try to keep everything simple in the paper work field. The easier it is for the customer to understand the simplier it is to get them to sign it in my opion. I hope it helps you out.:D