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    I await your response with great anticipation. I'm sure it will be interesting to say the least

    Actually, it will be quite boring. I'm simply not going to take the time to formulate a response because your perspective is so dislocated from reality that it would take pages and pages to provide an intelligent rebuttal.

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    Oh now you know for a fact that they all are for the war. Whens the last time you talked to ALL the soldiers or do the 100,000+ of them email you

    Now that's a brilliant response. Did you pick that one up in 3rd grade debate class? Since you know that I didn't received the 100k emails, I assume that you did?

    Back to reality: No, Jeff I haven't talked to them all. Nor have I based my opinion on anecdotal conversations with 4 people that I know. I have based it on published information about enlistment rates, re-enlistment rates, and AWOL rates. ALL of which show that people are willing to stake their lives on what we are doing in Iraq. Like I said before; They are there on the ground, front and center. For them it is for real, no bullshit, life or death. And they support the war strongly enough to wager their own life.

    Hence, I pose this question: One man is there risking his own life and believes that the cause is a good one. The other guy is sitting on his couch 6000 miles away and basing his opinions on what gets shown on the evening news. Who should a reasonable person believe about the truth?

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    Great observation, Jeff. You were right to call BS on me. My statement was patently absurd. No intelligent person could conclude that just because we cannot find UBL that he does not exist. Particularly when we know he was there before we arrived.

    It's kind of like those pesky WMD's. No reasonable person could conclude that just because we cannot find them that they do not exist. Particularly we knew they once did.

    As someone once said (Quote,PD)......."That said, I'm not ever going to sit back and let recently invented facts fly without calling BS"
    We haven't been able to find him, so he obviously never existed...

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    I choose not to debate you at all, you are much to rude to me and others. No one can voice a veiw, without you, your tone and your words being nasty.

    That's your prerogative. While I don't regret my statements, I do regret that you have been offended.

    There are other posters here that have totally opposite and strong views than mine, but they can post & rebut what i say or others say without being a

    Actually, I think you give your fellow PW'ers more credit than they deserve. Many of them are being an a** they just won't say it to your face. I've got a stack of private replies that make mine look like the PG version.

    That said, I'm not ever going to sit back and let the recently invented facts fly without calling BS. Nor am I going to let someone else use clever words and doublespeak to provide cover for their personal political agenda.

    If a person stands for something, then by God they should stand up and be accountable for their position. Don't adopt a position and then go find 50 reasons to justify why you have no choice but to take that position. That's how spineless people (and slimy politicans) debate.

    "I voted for the war before I voted against it" - JK

    "it's for the children" - HRC

    "Read my lips [...] a tax increase at this time appears neccessary" - GHWB.

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    I know your son and all that who are in the military are smart people. I hope they can see that even us who want them out are behind them 100% and thats the main reason we want them out

    And this is where I have a problem with war opponents saying they *support* the troops. Follow my logic:

    They (the troops) are there on the ground, front and center. They are seeing it for real, not on CNN. They sleep in the dirt. The bombs they hear do not come from the radio speakers. They don't just know someone who lost a son, they saw, smelled, and tasted a buddy's brains splattered on their clothes. For them it is not a BS session on TGS. It is for real, no bullshit, life or death. 3200 dead is not a statistic, it's their odds a life sized game of russian roulette. AND THEY SUPPORT THE WAR. Strongly enough to wager their OWN LIFE...

    Now; If they are for the war and you are against it, how exactly are you supporting them?

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    All you Bush supporters always say us "liberals" just hate anything bush does

    Yes, we do. Yes, you do. (your words below)

    Is Bush saving us or hurting us, maybe only history will tell, but I PERSONALLY dont like or trust the man and Im not weak on terror or the military I just dont trust Bush to tell us the truth, I dont trust him to plan or run a war, I just dont trust the man and PERSONALLY I think we are going to find out a lot of negative things about bush in time, Now thats just my personal feeling, its not me as you all say a LIBERAL Talking. I just dont like him because to me he is a proven liar and not a good president

    And this is the heart of the matter. You guys just don't like bush and ANY decision he makes is wrong before he has even made it.

    Bush mistakes according to libs:

    Pulled out of afghanastan too early

    Didn't pull out of iraq soon enough.

    Too many soldiers dying

    Not enough soldiers in iraq.

    didn't finish the job already.

    Too many soldiers in iraq.

    Didn't nuke 'em all.

    Too many civilian casualties.

    Gas prices are too high because of war

    Bush is wrong to fight for more oil.

    Bush didn't kill bin laden

    Bush did kill saddam

    Gitmo is cruel

    Not enough intelligence from terrorists.

    Our men do not have equipment.

    We spend too much on the war effort.

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    The high pressure relief valves are less than $20.00 and could save you quite a bit on repairs or claims. I also drilled a hole at the tank top and have it shooting across, never had a problem.

    Tossed all mine and I've had far fewer problems since. Besides, it's a redundant part. An unloader IS a high pressure relief valve.

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    Re-enlisment bonuses are also at an all-time high. Those numbers may reflect more than pure patriotism, or a belief in the mission. Sometimes it's just about feeding your family.

    While I agree that compensation is a factor, dead men cannot plow fields. It takes alot more than a pay raise to get someone to take a bullet and leave the family totally unsupported.

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    Frankly, I don't care what I look like, I stand for what is right and I thought it was plain and evident that I was against the war in my first post.

    Oh, it was perfectly evident you were against the war all along. It's just that your justification for that position keeps changing post-to-post. Clearly you formed an opinion and then started searching for objections to support it. When your information gets challeged, the topic changes to the next objection.

    As far as blabbering whatever, that is what people call it when they don't want to hear anything contrary to what they are set on.

    Not wanting to hear contrarian information is "decidedly ignorant". We have all been guilty of that at one time or another. "Blabbering" is when one intellectually staggers about making a continuous stream incongruent and often irrelevant statements.

    I never said anything about soldiers being stupid

    You said that they were being misled. Which implies that the soldiers are incapable of determining the truth for themselves. In contrast, smart people like yourself are perfectly capable of determining the truth.

    So, while I will grant that you did not literally call them stupid, you made it perfectly clear that they are not as intelligent as you and other enlightened folk. A concept which I (and many others) would have great disagreement with.

    it is not BS when I speak in favor of their lives.

    Perhaps you might try letting people speak in favor of their own lives for a change.

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    Just to ease everyones mind.

    I ran the machine this afternoon and watch the hose get pulled across the tank bottom to the machine feed.I re-routed the hose to prevent this from happening again.

    We cleaned a McD's tonight without incident.

    You mean the bypass line got sucked into the intake? Drill a hole in that tank and put a hose barb through the wall. That will never happen again, and you can easily see if the unloader is bypassing by the turbulence in the tank. Just don't let it jet right near the intake or the turbulence can cause air to get sucked in at low water levels.

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    The Victim here is someone who is being misled

    You nailed it. With the exception of Rod, the whole world is full of nothing but a bunch of mindless idiots incapable of determining truth from fiction. Thank God they have you to think for them...

    I don't believe in war for any reason and that is the part you do not get. Trying to convince me on the contrary is a waste of time.

    I can't get it if you didn't say it. Now that you have managed to get it out, I can respect your opinion in that regard. But, if you are against war, then be against war. All the other BS about stupid soldiers, inflated death tolls, etc. just makes you look like another mindless babbling liberal.

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    What would happen if the machine wasn't bypassing at all, and the trigger gun wasn't released, as that the system would fail almost immediately at the weakest point, likely the pressure hose or a fitting somewhere in the system. I suppose it is possible that the pressure could build to the point where the engine could no longer turn the pump and stalled, but more likely you'd simply blow a hole in something to release the pressure.

    Mike is dead on. Water is incompressible and PW pumps are constant volume pumps. That means that if 1qt of water goes in, 1qt must come out somewhere. There are only three holes to choose from: The nozzle, the bypass hose, or the brand new hole it will create. And we are talking seconds, not minutes.

    If you have no bypass with the gun closed, either you are sucking air or your pump valves are gone.

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    Come on people. These are human beings and to discount them or belittle their predicament is just full of disregard for life in itself.

    First and foremost, you are not going to paint me with that no regard for life anti-soldier crap. I don't disregard the life of any soldier. Not one. They given up their families, their liberty, and in many cases their very life so I could have the priviledge of sitting here running my mouth. They bravely took on a job I was too chicken s**t to do myself. Every night when I put my children into bed I say a prayer for the safety every soldier that stands guard over my home and keeps my family from harm.

    Perspective is another way of skewing the facts and drawing attention away from the real problem.

    Now there's another gem...

    Lack of perspective is how the movies make ants appear 40ft tall. And how liberals make low casualty rate look like a slaughter... Perspective IS important. 600/yr in an active combat zone is tiny. That's only 1.7 per day. Compare that with 9.24/day for Vietnam, 33.9 for the Korean War, and 281.5 for WWII.

    When you comparing Iraq to other conflicts you have to start asking if we're really getting our butts kicked as badly as some people want you to believe.

    There is a significant difference between people dying by misadventure than being killed for being in another country

    Yes, the means of death is quite different. But the point is not the means of death, but rather the appropriate level of public reaction. 13 times more people die from Advil every year and no one holds a protest or even thinks twice about grabbing the bottle from the pantry. I'll even be willing to bet that before my post you didn't even know (or care) how many died from Advil. On the other hand, a small number of people die from war you don't like and all of a sudden you are screaming and yelling about what a massacre it is. That because your outcry has nothing to do with the soldiers dying and everything to do with the politics.

    being shot or blown up is against anyones will.

    Undesirable consequences do not mean that the action was against your will. Did the loser of a Russian roulette game do so against his will? No. He made a conscious decision that cost him his life. Likewise, if you volunteer for a job that has a high probability of getting you shot or blow up, getting killed is not an involuntary action. It is merely the result of your choices.

    since when did the line get drawn outside the womb.

    When rapidly dividing cell masses start driving themselves to the family planning clinic, they you will have a comparable analogy. Until then, it's rather pointless comparing those who volunteer to those who are not yet capable of voicing their opinion. It was however, a nice attempt to divert the argument...

    As for who drew the line; The line outside the womb was drawn by the "victim". The "victim" who exercised their own free will to drive to the recruiters office. The victim who exercised their own free will to sign the enlistment papers. The victim who boarded a bus to Camp Lejune. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the difference between volunteering for a task that proves fatal and being murdered.

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    People are still dying and that is the undeniable point. More than those that died in the towers.

    That's a great little sound bite but it leaves out a great deal of perspective. For example:

    - 3242 US soldiers have died in Iraq since 2002. 7,600 US residents have died from taking Advil and similar OTC drugs (NSAIDS) in the last twelve months.

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    Sure wish I knew how to use that multi quote feature, but I'm not as smart as you

    Not multi quote. Just an edit.

    Fact no WMD's any logical person can ASSUME there was no WMD's since our goverment (GW admin) said there was none. You can only assume this because they did find old WMD's, they didnt find ANY new WMD's, they found NO document supporting a program. No WMD's No Program you're wrong, but you're a stubborn as the rest so I guess we could just fight on

    1. The admin did not say there were none, they said none wee found. BIG difference.

    2. No, logical people do not assume that because non were found that means none existed. Logical people deduce that none were found and their existence is therefore still in question. For example: many a dope dealers door has been kicked down and no drugs found. Once we clued into where to look (ie. the toilet) we started finding quite a bit.

    3. No WMDs = no program is just plain ignorant. That's like saying that MIT doesn't have a synthetic intelligence program because no one has seen a workable product yet.

    My character - Oh you really hurt me on that one. Thats not like you Phillip to go after the sympathy thing. Die like dogs they have been for century's. Not a damn thing we can do about it.

    Actually, there is ALOT we can do but that will cost you some inconveinence and discomfort. Can't have that if it's only a few brown people dying...

    Hell we have children being dragged off in the states, molested, sold, murdered, abused & starved, but all you say if they cant better themselves the hell with them. Dont you say something like that Phillip???

    It's pretty sad when your argument is so pitiful and weak that you have to resort to fabricating lies in an pathetic attempt to impugne my credability. But, since you went there:

    No Jeff, I have NEVER said any such thing. And I challenge you to find ANYWHERE on the web where I have ever made such a ridiculous statement or apologize for saying that I did.

    GW.... Was I guessing what he was thinking? Do you really think he thinks LOL

    Well, I'll grant you that he's not the Condo King, but he does have some notable achievements. For example: GW = the most powerful man on the planet. Must not be as dumb as he wishes you to believe...

    I'll spout what ever I want you do with your onesided ignorant comments

    Actually, I think if you will read (there's a novel idea) you will find that my comments are FAR less one sided than yours. In fact, I can think of several occasions here on TGS where my conservative buddies thought I was nuts for having a liberal position. How many times have you been caught holding a conservative position? None than I can remember...

    There was a lot of Chicken **** stuff going on, yes we were still in 911 hysteria.

    Not then, NOW. Making a big mess of things and running away is chickens**t.

    They didnt send enough troops and then when many were asking for more troops he didnt, he just kept listening to Rumsfeld.. His plan his mistake not to plan better, thats what we pay him for

    Ok, for 4 years now you libs have crucified GW for sending troops to Iraq. NOW, he's an idiot for not sending enough back then?!? The bottom line is you guys do not care what he does, you will change positions once again and say he screwed up.

    See phillip planned & exacuted.... I never wanted us to go to Iraq. I rooted for our troops when we did, but I told many before Iraq that Bush will go and then came 911

    Prove it. Find your posts supporting that statement position.

    I really dont actually want to leave Iraq, I hate the thought of it

    Are you serious? Are there 2 people posting under your ID? Go read your own posts in the last 4-6 months. You and I have ARGUED about you support of a pullout.

    , but I dont think Bush will do the right thing or plan right I dont trust his skills, so if he's there as prez i say work on getting out of a bad situation YES

    Yes, much better to have Hillary, or Kerry, or Dean....

    Who the crap cares about Kerry, does he matter when it comes to the war on Iraq..........Spoken like a true Bush supporter you funny Phillip. Have a great war and enjoy

    Who cares about Kerry? The majority of your democratic party last time we had an election. I'll bet that you even voted FOR Kerry. If it were up to you guys, Kerry would be in charge. And he voted for the war (before he voted against it). You and Kerry and just like the rest of the dems. All for the war on 09/12, but now you hsout over each other as you all claim that you were the only one speaking out against going into Iraq.

    Speaking of reading, if you would do a little more of it you would find that I'm actually not a Bush supporter or a republican. But, that does not mean that I'm going to sit back and let you spew forth a river of bullshit 3 miles wide w/o saying something about it.

    NO WMD's NO PLAN, FACT!!!!!

    Like I said, you keep repeating that BS long enough and you will start to believe it.

    Philip

    P.S. Take your free shots. I'm done with this thread. There is absolutely no point engaging in a debate when your opponent just keeps making up crap as they go along.

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    You're wrong on one point Phillip. They werent working hard of developing WMD all we have found to this date is very old and deteriorating WMD from the 1st Iraq war, ITS A FACT

    Fact: We didn't locate much.

    NOT Fact: They weren't working hard to develop them

    You are making the very wrong assumption that failure to prove misdeeds is the same thing as no misdeeds occurred.

    Saddam was contained, I dont care that he was killing his own.

    IMHO, that says a great deal about your character. Enjoy fathers day this year while other childrens parents are dragged off in the middle of the night. Which one do we go after first? I'm not sure, but to live here in the blessings that have been bestowed upon us while others die like dogs is evil.

    George Jr wanted to get Saddam way before 911 and only used WMD, then 911 to to what he did.

    Did GW explain this to you while ya'll were playing golf last week, or are you just guessing what he was thinking? If the former, who won? If the latter, please stop spouting complete speculation as fact because it only makes you sound ignorant.

    I know you wont agree but GW made a mistake going into Iraq when he did and we are paying for his mistakes.

    1. I'm actually not sure that I disagree. It hindsight, it may not have been the right decision. But, I'm not going to allow you to use all manner of BS and fiction to vilify GW. Or to support the idea that we should run away from a mess we created.

    2. "HIS MISTAKES" were supported whole heartedly by YOUR congressmen. It was THEIR decision. Until it got to be unpopular. Now it's HIS decision, HIS fault. That's just chickens**t.

    You CANT say it wasnt a mistake either going or how the whole war was planned and executed - Even the George Bush administration has come out SEVERAL times and said there has been many mistakes or it not going like they planned.

    Planned and executed? This isn't a training exercise. This is a WAR. That's how wars go. We make plans, they try to thwart them. We change plans, they change responses. In the ends, he who has more resources and makes better decisions WINS! But change is part of the game. If you expected this to go like a school play and the enemy just to lay down their arms, you had completely unrealistic expectations. And that explains why you are disappointed with the outcome.

    Working hard to develop WMD's WRONG!!!! oh ya bad intel good reason to still be in Iraq.

    WMD's WRONG: Keep repeating that crap and you will start to believe it. Opps, you're already there.

    GETTING OUT: Only a chickenshit comes in, trashes the whole place, and then runs away like a scared little boy when things get ugly. You and I can debate all day about the decision to go in, but not about getting out. Running away now is the behaviour of a coward.

    One last thing: Is Kerry for or against the war this week?

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    Are we much safer today?

    Yes. Iraq was a safe haven for terrorists and working hard to develop WMD's. Had they been allowed to proceed, they would have become a serious threat to world peace. A threat that we would have to deal with at a later date when they were a much more formidable enemy. Much like are facing in Iran now. And S. Korea...

    I just wonder why we took a lot of our troops off chasing Bin Laden.

    Would killing GWB stop the war in Iraq? No. Did killing Jesus stop the spread of Christianity? No. Did killing Saddam Hussein stop the insurgency? No.

    The answer to your question is simple. He is ONE MAN and although it would have been a great psychological victory, it had little stratrgic value and was a HUGE waste of manpower. That and there is credible evidence to suggest that he is already dead...

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    Like so many others who believe what was told to them...ever fly a remote control airplane? Many will not like the hypothesis but to me what was presented was too cut and dry.

    It was brilliant but other than to expose the cover up, no one will ever uncover the truth and that is the real sad part. That we were led to believe someone else did it and the finger pointing was so childish.

    Are you saying that 911 was done by our own people? Good God man, I thought I was the gov't conspiracy freak here. That is just too much.

    P.S. I hear that Elvis & Steve Irwin were in on the planning to maximize the theatric impact. And Hoffa did the organization and fund raising portion. The remote stuff was designed and tested on the same sound stage that they faked the moon landing on. It probably wouldn't have been possible to pull off, but all those chem trails the airplanes are leaving has all of us in an altered mental state.

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