Jon

Way ahead of that stuff Paul but thanks for the suggestion so others who might not be can get set up.

Ron I agree with that, even Delco's skids are pretty much the same, different names, different pumps etc. which makes the prices go higher as do the bells and whistles. I am sure the less expensive units work pretty much the same as top of line except for cost and quality of what is used in them. If your tight with cash I guess the lowest priced hot water skid is what you buy but you need to factor in shipping cost. Say Especs sells one for $3000 plus shipping of say $800 so the cost is $3,800. Now say Delco sells one of equal value for $3,200 and shipping of $400 = $3,600, which would you buy? Just an example above, not a sales pitch for either company. If both are equal you would buy the less costly one, right? About you fixing things blindfolded, I know a deck guy that needed help bidding a few days ago, seems he was blinded by something and could not bid correctly, might you have helped him out:p

Like all businesses they have several models, and they change them around, get rid of slow selling ones and bring new ones in. Sometimes it is the same thing with new name.

Tony depending on your mail carrier you can control spam, if you use Earthlink you can control it so good you won't use it, I tried it earlier this week, it blocks all mail and you then have to enter those you want to allow though. That caused me problems, I don't have to time or paitence to check every email address and then click add to address book or block. I use med. control yet I get on average 60 to 100 spams a day, I used to send to the state and feds, got tired of that so I just delete them. There are programs that claim to help block spam yet you have to spend a lot of time configuring them. A better way and one I will be doing is set up another Email address for when you browse, all spam will go there and you don't have to do a thing with it, over time it self deletes, so I am told. Jon

Sounds like an equal oppertunity retailer, others sell them for that price and if I were in the market for a new one it would not be from Especs. Sorry Ron but this is one time I disagree with you, your just lucky to never have problems with their stuff. For a few bucks more you can buy a Delco skid. No I don't own one of theirs. If I had to buy from one of those two it would be Delco though.

That will not totally stop them, they will find ways around it. It also exempts certain businesses. I have said for years it should be OPT IN, every year we must send in notices to opt out. Fail once and your never going to stop the junk mail. Also what they do now is say if you opt out then you don't even get the local magazine that you pay for. So your damned if you opt out, and damnded if you opt in. I say OPT OUT forever. While on this subject did you know it is illegal to send faxes to people selling things too! One way they get around that law is it applies only within the USA, so they send them for overseas.

Bob help do what on THIS ONE? I never knew there was an age when "your to old":rolleyes: My outlook on age is it is only a number, it does not make the person. Ok so I am a recycled teenager, can I help it? On a more serious side congrats on landing the job, just be sure you helper pays attention to the job at hand and not the BOSS who hired you! Bet she comes out to watch dressed to kill as she did when you showed up to estimate her, er I mean the job.

Looks like he has been busy on THAT job for two days, no reply yet from him. When do we call out the national guard to search for that house?

Bob you say she was helping you measure, sounds to me you were measuring the WRONG THING, you should have been measuring HER:D Oh well perhaps you need to go back and remeasure that job. Jon

Joel, <marquee>Happy Birthday Joel.</marquee>

You could also ask Beth from this board if she sells them, I believe she does but have no idea on her prices. That would be my first suggestion since this is her board. As to Especs, I don't buy from them anymore.

There seems to be a few missing links here, for one you need to plan ahead for added equipment and weight. As you grow your equipment grows too so you will need room for them. Does not matter if it is open trailer, closed trailer or truck, buy bigger then you need. And be very sure of the GVW. Most factory rigs have no room for growth, why I always prefer to buy flat open trailers and build my own setup.

Guys and gals somehow over 5 years worth of personal information about all you is gone, names, addresses, business names, phone numbers(both business and homes, cells) lost. In many cases I had your wife's or hubbys names, birthdates, other information and it is gone. No idea how, I know I did not delete the folder, was in MS Outlook and doubt if I was hacked since I have a firewall and router with built in firewall also. Please resend all this to me so I can start rebuilding this information. Thanks, Jon opclean@earthlink.net

Beth very true and if it were not for Grant comparing me with IRS I think I could have gone back to sleep, now I have a headache:D

Guys you need to understand one thing about Dave, he does not believe in doing things in small ways, besides when his power goes out in the house he hooks up to his genset and takes has bath in the truck! Dave show them your other truck too! Oh and the farmers toy:) Jon

Very cute!!

Kellogg strikes again.

Hi Bob, It was not the rear end but the motor mounts were not lined up right causing the vibration, took them a couple days to replace and line it all up, now there is such a slight vibration I can live with it. And there is a record of it if something goes wrong due to the vibration. Hire snails, they work cheaper and you can always squash them instead of firing them for being so slow and lazy. Try college kids, they need the money more. Jon

OTP, I do think our wife's are talking to each other, I get the same excuses too. To far to drive, no one close to us (as if we know all our neighbors) kids would not come visit, etc. Heck I drive an hour plus to some accounts so what is another 30 or so driving time to get to town?

When I figure that one out I will let you know. I only know I hate living in wall to wall concrete freeways and long for the more laid back lifestyle of country living. Want to move out of CA to a state with more or should I say less of what CA has, and to a city of say 35,000 or so people with a major city over an hour away. I remember all to well what that was like in the 50s. Never say those days are gone forever as they are not, just need to find the right state and town.

Y'all bonkers, all but that city boy! OTP, Ron did not catch a wild wave, more like a wild child and she sorta dragged him, butt and all full across the good old USA. What happens when you migrate away from the rat race, smog infested, traffic clogged state of CA. Oh is the North/South war about to start up again? Old Hatefield/McCoy clan up in he hills awaiting for you guys so watch what your foot steps in out in the country. Speaking of hatfield we have some of that family living here, in fact they own the local Bruick Dealership, was my neighbor till he bought a house up in the hills, we call it snob hill since all the rich folks live there. OTP, you call yourself a city boy, ha, bet you live far away from the real CITY!

Hi Bob, long time no hear from you so figured you're doing ok. Congrats on your half way mark! I have Kaiser Permanente, HMO, not sure if they have locations in your area, wife and I pay around $436. a month plus $15 and $20 per Doc visit. Prescription drugs $10 and $20. Different plans since I am considered a Senior and she is still a baby! To find out if it is in your area go to: http://www.kaiserpermanente.org/

I just cannot win! It has been corrected.:confused:

I can't wait for the day Ron P. and I meet;) Douglas it is not a perfect fit in the way you are talking, I pull the straps tight. Also my beard is not big and long as you can see in my picture, it is short and trim so that helps a lot. Shave it off, NO WAY, I grow this way way back when my former employer said NO BEARDS. (around 1970ish) Has double filters straps, above and below rather then a single strap holding it on. That is how I am able to tighten it well and not breath in the powder. The face mask cost around $30 from Home Depot.

Beth why not buy a 4000 watt generator for the rig? I use Shur-Flo pumps for all jobs requiring chemicals and find I can control where I want to spray much better then down or up steam. When mixing I always wear eye protection over my glasses and a face filter made to filter out powder chemicals. Before buying any face mask read labels, they are not all created equal. And if you have a beard as I do be darn sure it fits tight or it is useless.