Jim Gamble

I can share mine .... lol

That is a good question.

Just in: PWNA was requested to attended the MS4 Regional Event to help our fellow contractors in Region 6. Fort Worth, Houston and other cities was there in force. Heads of Depts. was in attendance. A new stricter issue for our industry was being considered. Robert and I feared the worse. Robert Hinderliter was able to provide to them years of research and Lab results of our industries washing run off. By providing this information, which was back up by boxes and boxes of cold hard facts and lab results, Robert Hinderliter was able to reverse their motives of increasing current restrictions to the states, county and cities. Head officials from such cities and counties as Houston and Dallas was present as well as State and County officials. They finally all agreed with the PWNA that further restrictions are not necessary at this time. This is a great win for our industry and a great win for the pressure washers who operate in Region 6. I myself is scheduled for several conferences for the Bay Area, Los Angeles and the surrounding area as well. The costs for these meetings that Robert and I attend comes from our own pockets and we are not comp for any costs such as hotels, food, rental cars or airfare etc. by the PWNA or any other source. The purpose for these conferences, ( Conferences meaning more than 40 and less than 2,200 in attendance) are to work with the "EPA Agencies of enforcement" on the issues that strike at the heart of our industry. To give a clear voice for our industry to the agencies who police us daily. Because of Roberts reputation over the years for the industry, Robert was requested to share the views of our industry as a whole. This speaks Volumes !!! Regional 6 includes: Arkansas, Louisiana, New Mexico, Oklahoma and Texas. If you would like more information about what’s coming out in the (2nd) 5 year plan for the states, please submit your request to the PWNA and ask for Robert Hinderliter. Since it seems that our attempts of verbal communication gets twisted at times though no one’s fault, we have decided to ask you to make your requests on this subject in writing. We hope that this action will promote "A clear voice of understand" on the subject. Thank You.

I know that the ***** was the place to be back then. If you was to become President with the original transition team as BODS, I bet it could hit well past 500 members. It would be great...again !

I stand Corrected.... Thanks John for clearing that up for me. I know it was unclear to allot of contractors that I talked to.

I am confused... Don't you Carlos have a life time membership in lou of the hard work you did for the *****. I remember all of those hours you spent working, trying to get members to hear you on the views of what the ***** stood for. Because of you, the ***** was strong and with a clear voice. I think you told me that you had over 300 members at one time. I know the transition team all have life time memberships as well as you...right? When People think of the *****, they think of you. Carlos, it was your baby.

Not everyone will agree with your above statement.

According to the statement above, I am sorry Ron that you and the ***** have chosen not to attend the once a year Regional 6 Event for storm water issues and enforcement held in Dallas. Allot of issues for restrictions was coming down the pipe line to the Cities such as Houston, Dallas, Oklahoma City etc. Police enforcement was being considered to all cities in the region with possible funding coming from the Feds. Cities in the region was considering following Houston's Lead at the conference. Stopping these issues at the source save everybody allot of resources, headaches and money. Many thanks are owed to the PWNA and Robert Hinderliter for putting these issues down and out before they got momentum which would of affected all washers in Region 6.

Allison, You are a great writer, no doubt. I remember when you wrote that article about me on Parking Garage Cleaning with Filtration. How the EPA was on site and all that I had to go through. Great article. Thanks for all of your efforts in the industry.

In this case Doug, I believe your statement is not correct. You had to be invited at this level. I believe only Robert Hinderliter and the PWNA was the only ORG that was invited at that time.

That depends on the POTW. Check with them if your discharge meets their requirements.

And I agree... Jerry is a smart guy as well.

Very Good Russ !!!

Sorry Carlos, did not see the red outline. I assume you are talking about N. California. I have been asked to talk about Parking Garage Cleaning and Filtration. As you know Carlos, the City of Concord makes you filter the water when cleaning sidewalks even though you use no soap. I am AGAINST this.I believe that washing with a pressure washer is the best way to go for the environment, again that is, if NO soap or chemicals are used. However, if you are cleaning a drive thru, or gas stations, then filtration should be used regardless whether soap is used or not.

This meeting already happened Carlos. They ask the PWNA to attend. I do not know if the ***** was asked. Robert provided his time and boxes of research to make a case to help our fellow contractors in region. I have no evidence that Houston or Region 6 is or is not going to continue, trying to put regs on our Industry in the near future. All I know is that, for now, the PWNA has stopped them from actively considering to apply any new regs and/ or restrictions at this time. A big Thank You should go out to Robert and Micheal Hinderliter for their continue efforts in this matter with Region 6... which includes Houston.

Thanks Adrian.....Thank You

You are right. I just get upset when he says this over and over again about the same thing to me. Going back today, I could of handle it differently. I am sorry to all.

Ron, If you continue I will report the post. This needs to stop now.

You was TOLD WRONG. Again, Already talked with the EPA Dept that polices this area of the law. How many times do I need to say... THIS DOES NOT APPLY TO OUR COMPANY. Unlike some contractors who CHOOSE TO USE old equipment, we have upgraded our UNITS every year for the purpose of the tax write off's, fuel efficiency and to be compliant. We are a certified GREEN Company. The first Pressure Washing Company in the bay area from what I was told. I would even wager that I big burners use less fuel and produce more heat then your burners. Our diesel's use less fuel then your gas engines. Everything is tier 4 compliance. SO AGAIN RON........THIS DOES NOT APPLY TO US. If this would apply to anyone, It may however apply to your business; that is, if you are still using those older pressure washers I saw 4 years ago. Units that are 8-12 years old maybe considered a Grouse Polluter. Not sure, you would have to check. So one more time ...just for you Ron.....My equipment, my engines, my trucks and my boilers are all compliant to Federal, State and local laws of California and the surrounding States.

Again.... Ron this does not apply to any of our units.

Ron, I have showed you why 2014 emissions do not apply to us. However you continue to ask the same question about our equipment over and over again. It's almost like you’re obsessed with our rigs. It's like your trying to create something that is not there.

I thought you had the PWNA Email address already. Here you go info@pwna.org.

Your not curious, sounds like your fishing again.

Thank You

No new approach here. Been saying this on these BBS since 2008 and Robert eariler than that. You are aware of that so there is Nothing new here. You're just being you and are running with it... thats all. Please do not make it sound like I or Robert are following your lead. That's how mis-information can start and we both do not want that to happen. Thanks Ron.