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with 4 acres of property. I would say 4mil. Land around here goes for almost $500,000 a half acre. A developer would buy it, tear the house down and build a bunch of Mc Mansions on the property. Then each Mc Mansion would sell for 1.5 mil. Doug

Definitely getting a tint kit. I got the job. :dance: Deck is about 1500 sq ft and I'm also staining the house which is a california ranch about 4900 sq ft. I was thinking about getting the wood that I need in advance and let it sit out in the sun to weather a bit so it will match the old wood a little better. Do you think this is a good idea?

I have been thinking of getting a deckster from Sunbrite. Does anyone use it? How would you rate it? Is it capable of spraying WTW? I have thought about building my own, but don't really have the time to tinker with something to work out the bugs and get it working properly. I may still go this route to save money. Doug

I spoke with Tom Vogel from ACR. He sounds like a great guy. I'm taking a trip out there on Friday or saturday to get a decker.

I'm going to stain the wood once it's cleaned. She wanted to go with clear and I belive I have talked her out of it. I had suggested to her to go with a deeper color to help blend the old and new wood better. She may go with a cedar color. With as dry as this wood is I was thinking of using the 2 part wood tux system (wood tux DMC followed by a thin top coat of Wood tux wet). I have to talk to Russell about that. Thanks for the help. :)

Thats what I'm thinking. Just trying to find out if it is WRC or some other type of cedar. The woman said she remembers paying more for a certain type of cedar, but doesn't remember the type. I have about 200ft of boards to replace. If I replace them with WRC the new boards will be red and the old will be bleached out. When I did the test cleaning I used Wolman Deckbrite cleaner because thats what I had in the truck at the time. When I do the actual cleaning I will use EFC-38 and citralic to brighten. Do you think this will help to bring the natural color back? Thats the way I planned it. :D

I took a couple of pics this morning. I also got the end piece from the deck. The wood is a bit rotted and is hard to tell. The color on the inside is more red then the outside. I'm going to take the piece of wood down to the lumber yard tomorrow and see if they can tell for certain what type of cedar.

I'm gonna try and take a trip out there sometime this week. I typically like to buy things in person instead of having it shipped. Can the Hurricane brush that Sun Brite sells be used with the Decker?

Thanks for the help guys! I'm gonna get a pic of it dry today and I'll post it here. When the wood is dry it is much lighter and has a slight yellowish tint. I'm also going to take off the small piece at the end that needs replaceing to help ID the wood. Is it possible to be WRC that has had the color bleached out by the sun or with a strong bleach solution? This wood is VERY DRY. I put some stain on a piece that needs replacing and the stain soaked in so fast it was dry in seconds. It's a shame when a deck like this has been neglected.

Thanks Rick, I'll check them out. I've had their website on my favorites list. I may take a trip over there later this week. Why do you say the Decker 5'er is the "better" unit?

Here is a quote from Sunbrites website "The Deckster deck sprayer is designed to handle both harsh cleaners and most wood deck sealers (light viscosity)." WTW is not a "light viscosity" sealer. Would the deckster spray WTW? If not in it's stock configuration, is there an upgrade to make it spray WTW? Where can the Decker 5'er be purchased? I did a search on Gooooogle and nothing came up for it. I am leaning towards the Deckster because it seems to be more readily available. I'm going to give Sunbrite a call on Monday if I get a chance. If somebody can post a link to a site that sells or has info on the Decker 5'er it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Doug

Neil, Thanks for the response and info! I've heard of the Decker but can't seem to find any info on it. Where did you get it from? I like the hurricane brush that you can get with the deckster. Since I work alone and don't have someone to back brush for me, the hurricane brush seems like a good investment to get the sealer on the deck floor without having to put down the sprayer, backbrush, etc. Time is very tight. I work full time running my business. Between working during the day, going on estimates, figuring the estimates, plus having to do personal things, I'm surprised I get any sleep. Forget about having time to build a sprayer and get it working properly

To get into the space between the slats you could also tape a piece of cotton rag around a paint stick or any thin, flat piece of wood and use that to apply the oil between slats.

Isn't "safe anti freeze" propylene glycol based and not ethylene glycol? Is hangtime still available from ESI?

Where can Hangtime be purchased? I may have a strip job coming up and this could come in handy to keep the stripper on the verticals.

I will be bidding on a cedar deck restoration and cedar sided house very soon and would like to present the customer with a Wood Tux brochure(possibly meeting with them this Sunday). Does any one have one they can scan and e-mail to me or know a link to it online that I can print out? Thanks, Doug

Most products say not to apply in direct sunlight. What do you do if you have a deck that faces south and gets direct sun all day long? Do you create shade with a tarp? Wait for a cloudy day? Just curious as to haow others deal with a problem like this. Doug

I am still working on what to charge for decks. If you charge $2.00 sf does that include the stain or is that just labor?

I will be offering deck staining next season to my customers. It has been a few years since I have done decks and just reserching different brands of stain. I have used Cabots and Benjamin Moore in the past with very good results. I personally prefer Cabots over Ben. Moore. Had a BIG problem with a Ben Moore stain on a deck. That is another story though. I am looking for opinions from the wood care pros. Please respect others opinions. I don't want this to turn into a big debate / fight about why a certain product is better then another. What brands of stain do you offer to your customers? Why do you like these products? Are there any brands that you refuse to use? Why? Thanks in advance, Doug

Looks good! Is this the deck that you had a hard time stripping? Doug

Rod, That was a very well put response to my questions. I appreciate the message at the begining of your post. You said it better then I could have. The words don't come off my finger tips that easily.:) Thank you! Like you, I am mostly concerned with the quality and longevity of the stain. I have a reputation for doing quality work inside and I want this to extend to decks as well. Using a poor performing product can damage a reputation very quickly. Doug

It's WET!!!!! I'll be swimming to work real soon . :fishing: Live up on a hill so no problems with flooding. A streeet or two downtown were flodded yesterday. Doug

Sorry! I guess I misunderstood what needed to be done to win. Doug

I was watching the game and the Jaguars scored a touchdown on the kickoff return in the second half. Looks like he's in the $$$. Congrats, Doug

The next time I go to her house I will have to take a closer look at the deck. Russel, Can wtw be used over a stain like Cabots as a 2 part system? Doug