Ron G.

Need some input on stripping / resealing using Cabot's Bleaching Oil. While performing a roof cleaning, some of the adjacent cedar siding was lightened as a result of contact with the roof cleaning solution. (This was previously disclosed to the home owner that this may occur). In the attached pics you can see where the roof solution brightened the shakes (about 1 foot above the the roofing). The blotchy areas above that and in the front entrance area was caused by pre-wetting with low pressure. Cabot's website http://www.cabotstain.com/pdf/BOIL3241.pdf states that this product can be applied to surfaces previously treated with CBO. I'm wondering if the areas can be lightly cleaned with a percarb and resealed or will this cause a blotchy result. My first thought is to completely strip and reapply CBO. The fact that the existing finish melted off so easily, with little pressure, I'm thinking that EFC-38 may do the trick. Also I'm confused about product part #'s. anybody know if part # 6241 supersedes part # 3241 or are they two diff. animals?

Some of this maybe true, however, I sold the homeowner a roof cleaning. This should not include cleaning / brightening adjacent surfaces. I screwed up and I know it. A series of mistakes on my part lead up to this event. Once I recognized the problem I immediately phoned the HO and informed him, my first step of damage control. We now have a signed contract listing the scope and proposed outcome of further work to be performed. The HO has been very patient thus far and has commented that he has "total confidence that I will rectify the problem". Personally in this biz, my reputation is paramount. In this case a little labor and money will go a long way in preserving my rep.

Empty your PM box.

If I try this, will I be able to apply CBO to the lightened areas and blend into the non lightened areas?

Dan, I must admit, I committed a series of errors on this job. Right from the start I had the sense something was not right with this guy. With that said, as you know there are thousands upon thousands of homes just like this in the Northeast. Gotta learn some how. This one will hurt my ego & back more than my wallet.

Thanks, Rick This makes sense, I'll check.

Thanks Beth. The condition of the existing finish is terrible. Mold, mildew and areas of completely failed sealer. Not to familiar with this product but it is most likely lack of maintenance is the leading cause. At first I wondered why the HO would let it become so grimy. The pics. clearly indicate why. You look at this stuff funny and it melts off before your eyes.

Rick, not trying to hijack, but you say the lapping "was mostly corrected by a second application of stain on the deck floor". First, How to avoid lapping in this situation? Second, when lapping occurs what steps can be taken to lessen or correct? Thanks, Ron (extreme wood novice).

Looks really nice Scott. Seems you have learned a few things in 15 years.

Hoping some of you Woody’s can help me out here. I don’t have many wood resto’s under my belt and I need to submit a bid on this structure. The foot print is 30x60, the wood measured out just under 3k sq. ft. I will be just cleaning and neutralizing. The wood appears to be eastern white pine, tongue and grove. Never been treated. My experiences in the past with this type of wood is that it furs like crazy. I would like to avoid this as much as possible. Can you please advise me on proper chems. / process. I’m thinking maybe percarb or light bleach, yes, no? I have used EFC-38 in the past on a cedar shake resto, I worked great. Thanks, Ron. A couple pics.

Thank you James, words to live by. Rick, this is ultimately where I want my biz positioned. Agreed! Yeah, don't stop now, your just getting warmed up.

After cleaning I discovered that, yes it had been previously treated. However, after cleaning, very little sealer remained (see after pics). What did remain seemed to blend nicely. This series of pics shows an area of staining that I attempted to lighten with acetone. Did not seem to make much of a diff. Once again, thanks to all for your help & encouragement.

Completed this job on Thursday. Some before & afters.

Kevin, I can't see how that will help me remove a stain. If anything that process will only contribute to staining!:lgtear:

Cleaned the pavilion today. A couple areas have some type of staining. Probably occured before the roof was constructed. It appears to be oil / grease. What can I try to lighten or remove? HD-80? Thanks, Ron.

Pic 1 no ox, pic 2 ox applied and rinsed.

I'll try to post some. The spot with ox applied appears lighter / brighter.

A couple pics of todays testing. Forgot to mention. Downstreamed my regular house wash mix (12 % & S.C.), brushed, rinsed thoroughly, applied ox, rinsed again. Absolutly 0 furring! Damn fine results, can't wait to knock the customers socks off with results. Once again, thanks to all of you.

Hi Dan, I am very happy overall the way things have turned out thus far. For me this is not my fulltime job, with that said, I have managed to payoff 12k in equipment upgrades this year. At this point I'm not sure of my numbers but I'm way above last years sales. Roof washing is what I'm pushing the most and it is paying off. If we are lucky we have 12+ weeks remaining until that white stuff appears. The push is on big time! I hope things are going as well with you Dan.

Rick, the majority of the wood appears just as the close up. Covered in black spots (mold). I will perform a test using the process you suggest. I will apply to two seperate areas, one of the spots I will apply an acid to see what type of a color shift occurs. Thanks for your help, I appreciate it.

Thanks, Rod

Ken are you using this in conjunction w/ Simple Cherry?

What do you mean by better results? Are the surfaces not cleaning adequately? Are you using fresh 12.5% S.H.? Dwell time? As someone else stated, is your down streamer properly sized for your application? I'm very happy with the performance of Simple Cherry. Just enough suds to make it stick, less rinsing = faster wash times = more $ in your pocket!

Amazing James, to think people will pay you extra for this service. Do they dismantle their decks for you also?

Anybody hear of this outfit? Small Business Merchant Account - Accept Credit Cards by Phone The current rate is 3.95% per transaction, a bit high but, no contracts, no monthly minimums, and the monthly fee is only $5. Best of all no equipment to purchase / lease, just dial up on your phone for approval. I'm takin a look see.