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    How do we qualify who is suiitable for teaching the Trade ?

    Someone that has a commendable industry trade background

    because of :

    1. long term involvement in the industry - Years in business and experience are important. How many? Who knows? Some people learn faster and excel faster than others.

    2. Proven research in the certain field - True, but where did the research come from? I really don't think that the best research comes from expensive 3,000 page books. Books are usually filled with theories. Everything looks great on paper.The best training/research is hands on training/research. I think that a very close 2nd is a good bbs like this one. Is some of the info flawed? Yes it is! However, there are enough experianced contractors here to correct it too.

    Even better, I think that it's great that there is flawed info here. Think about it. Scenario - Let's say I advise someone to just clean decks with hot water and a zero degree tip, and stain it with Behr. Within 2 minutes about 10 contractors will have examined what I posted, dissected it, brought it to light, challenged it, and then told me why I was wrong and how to do it right. We all get a chance to see "theories" challenged. We also get to learn why ideas are write or wrong. You can't get that in a book or a seminar!

    3. Proven success in the certain field - I agree totally, as long as the success is fueled with integrity and good principles.

    4. Positive effect on guiding people in the correct direction - I can't argue with you there Tony. I think that some people will say "Yes, but what is the correct direction, & who's to say what the correct direction really is?"

    To those people I would just say, come on, put the microscope away.

    May I add 1 more qualification - To be a good enough speaker to keep everyone interested.

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    I like the way this thread is turning now. It's good for us all to hash these things out. I think that it's good to challenge ideas. I also think that the bar has been considerably raised for round tables. And why not?! There is always room for improvment in everything. I have heard both good & not so good about round tables. The good was always about the people that were there and the fun everyone had meeting each other. The not so good was usually about a topic that was talked about, or info that was shared that wasn't really that helpful. All in all, I think that all R.T's are successful to a degree and are very necessary to the industry as a whole. I guess what I'm saying is, why not make them more successful? I think that was Tony's original point.

    Poor Don. He sticks his neck out to host his first R.T. and all hell breaks loose.

    Don, I want to publicly thank you for doing this. You're a good man!

    Tony, I want to also publicly thank you for bringing the subject up on the bbs. Although some people here might not have liked the way your initial post was worded, the end result is looking pretty good.

    Change is often very uncomfortible for us, but it is necessary too.

    Barry, you are a great guy. It's too bad that you got stuck in the middle of all of this. I applaud you for being a true gentleman through it all. Ilook forward to meeting you. I would like to hear about how you do the roof thing.

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    [quote=CarolinaProWash;89851]Isn't that somewhat insulting to the contractor who is sponsoring/coordinating/funding the event? No, not at all. I think that the contractors who are potentially driving or flying many miles to these events, absorbing all the travel expences (food, lodging, gas, plane tickets, & etc..) should very well know exactly what they're in for. Heck, you don't rent a $3.00 movie without reading the back of the dvd case do ya? You want to know (the credentials) what it's about and who's in it. I think we as busy contractors owe it to ourselves to check these things out. These Round Tables are not sanctioned by any big brother. I agree with that. That being said, we as individuals need to be informed so that we can decide on weather not we should even go. I certainly didn't ask for a resume for folks that voluteered to partipate in my last round table......won't do it for my next one. That's your decision, and I respect that. It probably seems like looking a gift horse in the mouth when someone is sharing info at a R.T. for free and you want their credentials. But, what about all of the attendees? I think that providing your credentials as a "speaker" at a R.T. could possibly make even more people come! Rush Limbaugh just gave a speech at the Warner Building a few weeks ago. It was sold out. Know why? Because of his credentials. These events are promoted on these bbs by our fellow contractors. If people don't have enough respect for what these individuals are doing on their own, maybe they should stay home and make up their own event and rules. Celeste I have the ultimate respect for anyone who is hosting a R.T. It is a lot of work. We must remember that respect is a 2 way street though. I think that the host and speakers should have enough respect for the attendees to provide whatever credentials are necessary. Remember, I hate Big Brother. I don't think that there should be an industry standard for R.T. speakers. Too many opinions and red tape. Once again, in a nutshell. Post or P.M. credentials so that the individuals can decide wether or not to come to a R.T. Win - win. Fair.

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    Wow, this Midwest round table is getting a lota hype! I truely believe that all who attend will walk away very informed.

    Newbies and vets, just think about how much time & money you will save just by coming to this event!

    I'll put it this way - If I had gone to a round table event like this exact one 5 years ago, I would have been making waaaaaay more money than I am right now!

    THINK ABOUT THAT!

    If you just would attend this round table, you will bypass a TON of headaches, save a TON of money, & fast foward your business about 2-3 years! I dare you to come!

    Tony, you are in the midwest. Why don't you attend? I would like to hear some of your tricks of the trade.

    Celeste, I have always liked your views on things. I know what you are saying about certification. I know several contractors in my area that are certified in many areas of wood care. My company does 5 to 10 times the work that they do, makes 5 to 10 times the money that they do and we complete jobs twice as fast as them with 1 guy as opposed to 2 or 3 of theirs. All of those "certified experts" have been in business for 10+ years. Who would anyone rather learn from?

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    Sup Mas!

    First off, Jarrod--that is nice!! And I love those fawn colored cabinets....is that clear on maple?? And was this a remodel or a new home?? Looks really good.

    Mike, granite is one of those things that you can find a heckuva lot cheaper than what you are seeing at EXPO, etc. A friend just did granite.....$100 at EXPO and he found it for $50. Trick is, you have to look for people that wholesale it. Obviously, that price is having "seams" at the corners, etc. But a good installer should be able to make the seams look seamless (close). Another---I've seen concrete tops on some of the design shows (the cool shows, where they actually do neat stuff) that were really nice. But I've actually heard this costs more than granite.

    Thanks John. The cabinets are in fact clear on maple. The house is about 3 years old. Here's pics of the original counter tops.

    I did not take pics of the upstairs bathroom for some reason.

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    Here's some pics of my kitchen. I hope that this helps. This granite came from Brazil. It's called Golden Beaches. We had it installed in last October.

    1 piece of advise I can offer is, spend the money! And get under mount sinks. It is worth it! Another thing is - the spotty granite is nice, but, if you seen an inch, you've seen a mile. Spend a bit more $ and get something with some veins and swirls.

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    I have owned businesses from live sound production companies to beer distributors over the last 19 years. Every single one of them sold for nice profit. My ladies gym franchise reached its 1000th member in December. Our ice cream parlor has customer counts of 200 people per day in December.

    Ahh, I see how you do it Kenny! You fatten 'em up with your addictive ice cream, & then you sell them a gym membership! Hmmmmmm.

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    Rod, I agree totally. I would rather learn from a fellow contractor than some manufacturer any day of the week. I don't want to hear someone just sing the company song every time a ? gets asked. Experienced contractors know a lot more about the products they use than the manufactoures do.

    The reason why is that they look at the product with both eyes open. The manufacturer knows how it should work, the contractor knows how it does work.

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    John, Thanks for responding. To be fair, I won't name names. I would not want to hear 1 word that an "expert" would want to say that makes an inferior product. You guys mention the research that they have done & the info they could share with us right? If the research they have done led them to make a substandard product, I think that the info they would share with a class would also be substandard.

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    If I had a choice I would rather have my company be taught by a person that comes from a very successful company such as a Flood, Benjamin Moore, V-seal, Prosoco etc.

    Hey John, When you mention Flood, are you talking about the same company that makes CWF Flood deck stain that H.D. sells?

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