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Two questions about cedar (deck and planters)
bloodysafety replied to Dario's topic in DIY'ers - Ask The Pro's
that last post was mostly for the planters if you couldnt tell ;) -
Two questions about cedar (deck and planters)
bloodysafety replied to Dario's topic in DIY'ers - Ask The Pro's
I agree with rod on the oil based products as far as the moisture is concerned (im in washington); since the end grains will be in direct ground contact I reccomend and use copper. Buy copper slug tape and wrap the end grain with it secure it with copper nails. Copper does not rust, kills some types of fungus and repels slugs. It might look pleasing to you to do this on all the seams and tops. If you are concerned about enviromental protection use something whose oil base is linseed or tung...stay away from petroleum. Tung oil is more durable than linseed but I have yet to see it pigmented. I also wouldnt worry about a liner, just oil the inside of the pot really well, multiple coats is ideal. If you Really really want to maximize root mass without using cloth, you will need to drill a bazillion small holes in the side walls. These holes provide more gas exchange and cause whats called air pruning of the root tips which results in more roots. I'd go in depth with it but this aint a growing forum ;) -
Chevron Shingle Oil? Really?
bloodysafety replied to Beth n Rod's question in Wood Cleaning & Restoration - Decks, Fences, etc.
I am an 18 year professional carpenter and roofer. The use of "shake oil", as we call it here in the PNW is quite common and when used correctly and responsibly can give decent results, though there are much better options out there. As the link says: it does not hide anything at all period. It is just an oil not a stain. It will darken the wood by a shade or so (just like anyother oil on raw wood) but wont hide any discoloration or restore anything to "like new" condition. If you want to restore Cedar shake you first have to pressure wash with what we call a soft tip. This nozzle delivers only 200lbs of pressure +/- depending on the machine, instead of a few thousand. These do not come standard with a pressure washer, you have to order them...anyway you have to remove all patina from the wood (this will NOT remove rust marks). If you have washer marks you didnt do it thoroughly enough; spray till theres no marks. You want to wait untill the wood LOOKS dry to apply the oil. I reccomend a power sprayer (WEAR A RESPIRATOR!) and/or lots of rags. Brushes arent much help; the oil is too thin. This will bring the shake to an almost redwood hue. The whole point of the oil of course is to postpone decay. As the weather cycles, natural wood oils are lost and the shakes lose weather resistance. For astetic purposes its best to do it right when its installed and every 5-10 yrs thereafter. If being used after the fact the customer should be made aware that not only will the oil NOT hide anything, it will enhance it! its very important that you pressure wash if you want to get anywhere close to "like new" condition. Also because of the nature of wood, different shakes from different parts of the tree(s) will color differently but almost always looks good provided proper and meticulous preperation takes place. Never ever ever use bleach to clean wood! there are several Hydrogen peroxide based cleaners out there specifically designed for this that will not comprimise the wood and is basically enviromentally safe (kills non vascular plants like moss which is why we use it to demoss roofs) and they work superbly.