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... Picturess taken today after strip, brightening. Minimal furring, discovered a whitish acrylic finish beneath the Cabot, not too much of it on there fortunately, 30 min dwell F-18 @ 8oz/pg. got it up... I'll be back next week for light sanding contact surfaces, bench/handrails, little bit of cabot that wouldnt release...then sealing with RS med-Red redwood only.
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Thought I'd post up this project. Redwood deck had multiple coats of Cabot semi-trans, top-coated without stripping by homeowner. Homeowners "gave up" 8 years back, hadn't touched the deck. Here are some before pictures from yesterday...
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Looks amazing Rick! I saw some o that same Honduran Mahagony when I was down in Honduras 15 years ago. When I was down there I bought a painting that was created in fine detail on the inside of a half-shell coconut. So much to see down there, so many talented wood carvers and artisians, mind-blowing really. Speaking of old growth cedar, have a gander at these port orford cedar shingles. These skinned the cabin I lived in for 3 years when I was in college up in Oregon. Cabin built around 1906.
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Is this a covered porch? No gaps between the floor boards. Fasteners look like they are of poor quality and corroding on nice wood. So many "premier" deck builders sell clients on high quality wood then use cheap, garbage nails or deck screws. Hate that.[/quote]
Isnt that crazy Rick? THose floor boards are butted up to one another! No spacing. Nailed down... HO bought the house 10 yrs. back, apparantly previous HO built the deck himself. I'm amazed that the deck is still alive... No, its not covered... Nuts. My client returns from vacation in 2 weeks, hope they are pleased.
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Same shot before stripping...
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Stpped by the project this morning to asess the post-brightening (+24hrs.) and the extent of de-furring that will need to be done. Here is a picture of the floorboards. The furring wasnt horrific, but definetely going to need to make a pass at it next week.
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Matt,Terrific work on a wonderful wood. With the right strippers, additives, knowledge, and equipment, not so bad, eh?
Congrats on a difficult restoration. Future redwood trees owe you one...
Thanks Rick, appreciate it. Couldn't have done it without all the great help! Almost turned my back on this project when I first laid eyes on it, but figured it was a necessary hurdle if I wanted to build more knowledge and confidence with respect to stripping. It was time for some dues payin'. Thanks again for your advice,Rick. I'm in contract for my next acrylic strip to begin Aug.4th. I have pics posted on another thread of that one. That deck was done up by the same guy that did this deck! Hopefully she'll behave as well!
And I know, I definitely got off easy on this one! Smooth release, no vert work. I'm grateful.
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Get much furring?Yes I did. I guess I was expecting that. It would be nice to have more experience with larger buffing/de-felting equipment since I don't have any vertical de-fuzzing to do here. Thinking maybe it would be a good opportunity to rent something larger and gain some experience with a new tool. My de-furring arsenal is lilited to a few buffers w/ 3M pads. But whatever it takes, the HO's return in 2 weeks and I really want to knock their socks off. I built enough margin into this one to allow for mistakes or unforeseen nightmares. Since everything seems to be going better than anticipated, I'll be re-investing this "extra time" and head space into taking this deck to the next level. After all the con jobs these nice HO's have been subjected to in the past few years, I think they deserve a product that exceeds their expectations.
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...and couple more taken 10 min. after brightener set in...
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Spent a good 2 hours on the 2nd round of stripping. First layer wrinkled up right away, but a 20min. dwell @ 8oz. p/g didnt seem to want to get at that next layer at all. So much peled up finish on surface after 1st dwell, had to rinse pretty thourougly and re apply my stripper (again 8oz. p/g direct) to get that next and last layer to release...
Here are a few pictures taken just after brightening. Acrylic finish, full release.
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Well, finally got some sleep last night after Day 1 on this acrylic strip proved to be more bark than bite. As I mentioned before, the previous guy had been top coating this deck with ? acrylic for the last few years. This "expert" was returning every year for a maintenance visit that was setting the HO's back $1,200 each visit. Never been stripped before. Nicest clients ever, really felt for them.
Anyways, here are todays pictures, still a small front deck to knock out next week.
First pics were taken during 2nd strip...
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JUST got back after Day 2 on this strip... Downloading todays pics now...
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Gotta agree. I've been only been asked this by a client twice in the last 100 decks I've done. Ready Seal for me.
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Thanks Greg, Ill be back at it tomorrow, take some more pictures, hopefully the whole kit and caboodle after brightening....
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These film forming stains are pretty rare around here. Like I said in previous posts, seen only 4 in 8 years. All four in the last 3 weeks!
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Redwood 1x2, yes, you heard it right, 1x2 decking coming back to life again! This picture is after a "tester" shot of DS'd brightener.
I'll be back tommorow to continue stripping (more decks on the other side of the house) and brighten everything back up.
So far, I feel pretty good about how this one is going. I was armed with boost, but didnt seem to need it. Again, thanks to all of you awesome woodies who have helped me prepare for this one, my 1st acrylic strip. I appreciate it greatly!!!
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Never thought I could be so happy to see that redwood go black!
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Gettin at it for the 1st rinse, this stuff peeling off, blood pressure getting back to normal. So enthused that I thought I'd one-hand it and snap a picture with the other hand while I shot the deck... Had to.
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5 minutes into dwell time, bucklin up real nice, smile returning to me face! Its budgin'! Hallelujah!!!!
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Thanks to everyone who chimed in on this one this past month. Client finally left for Europe yesterday and it was time to get at this strip! My first acrylic strip, and I was up tossing and turning last night worrying that this stuff was going to get the best of me. Here are some process pictures...
Treatment:
8oz p/g F18 sprayed with Deckster
20 min dwell time.
Stain started to wrinkle up real nice after 2 minutes dwell.
1st pictures taken before treatments.
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I'm thinking of RS gold? Like I said, the clients "quite like" the color thats on their now. Love to make them happy!
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Okay now, which one of you has been referring these nasty acrylic jobs to me? After bragging three weeks ago that I hadn’t seen an acrylic in years, I’ve come across 5 in the last two weeks! I’m going to be starting the “Ughhh” job this week and just entered contract on another one today.
This one will especially fun as the main redwood deck is 30’ off the ground with no stair access. I don’t mind setting up ladder access on a job like this, however the trouble with this one is that ALL of those patio furniture and potted plants will have to stay on the deck through the course of the project. Homeowner does not want to bring them inside (cant blame them, very nice interior with all kinds of breakables around). I’m thinking I’ll be gathering everything and stockpiling on one end of deck, covered up real well, then alternate. PITA, but I can live with that, or, rather, my helper can.
I gave the HO the big ‘deep penetrating vs. film forming’ lecture and built a proposal that should allow enough wiggle room to make me comfortable.
The verticals are going to loads of fun as usual.
Anyways, any ideas on what this film forming junk is? Previous deck guy advertises that he uses 'enviro-friendly' products, hoping it isn't that timber pro stuff, had a heck of time with similar finish in the past.
Oh, and also, the lady of the house like the look of the current finish, sort of a honey color. That will be new for me as well...
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My first big acrylic strip, I feel mildly excited. I must be nuts. Im wondering what the point in getting into hardcore SH/Boost stripping would be if I am, in all likelihood going to need to be doing some heavy defelting afterwards anyways. I hear you Kevin on the issues you raised regarding sanding not getting into cracks,etc.. Makes sense. These 1x2, yes, 1x2 redwood deck boards are pretty darn close together for the most part. MOst of it look like a friggin' interior hardwood floor! I wont have any verticals to contens with, just redwood handrail "caps" on top the steel verts. And, yeah, as you can ascertain from some of the photos, I wouldn't be able to get a big drum sander around those handrail footings. Best I can tell, should be fairly straight forward though with an orbital.
Advantages (as I see it) w/ a Sanding Approach vs. Stripping Regiment
1. Screws in floorboards are already sunk beneath the surface of the floor boards.
2. Floor boards show little to no cupping/warping, even.
3. I built plenty of margin in my bid for the extra cost of renting a drum sander, paper,etc..
Anyone else have an opinion on this? Thanks
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Can someone remind me why I am not going to be sanding this deck instead of getting messy with strippers. Nothing against getting messy with strippers, especially the two from last night, but with little to NO cupping on these deck boards, and with all of the screws ALREADY sunk beneath the surface, why would I not just hit this thing with a drum sander?
Happy Days Are Here Again!My First Acrylic Strip in Process
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Deck is appx. 1500 sq. ft.