fireandrain
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p.s. note the 6" band of acrylic overspray along the house in the picture with client on deck. I was uncharacteristically speechless.
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Called out to a redwood deck yesterday. When HO originally phoned us, they tell us that their redwood deck needs some, "sprucing up". I arrive to meet with the client and we take the usual walk around back to see whats in store. Have a look at these pictures! I have to hold in my laughter when I lay my eyes on this mess! I mean, always do my best to deliver professional, educational consultations when meeting with prospective clients, but I've got to admit, I've never seen such a botched deck job! The homeowner was not much for conversation and offered suspicios few details about the prior history of the deck.
My guess is that he rented a baby chimp from the Oakland Zoo, set the chimp down in the middle of the deck with a clogged pump sprayer, and instructed the chimp to, "Spray!". My alternate theory... HO got a deep "off-season" discount on his last deck do-up from a firm that specializes in hiring the blind.
Guessing this deck was last restored at a date that preceded the advent of tarps and the evolution of the opposable thumb.
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And another shot 25 minutes into dwell with Stripsol applied.
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For those of you interested, here is a picture taken of the Ipe urethane coat after 5 minutes dwell time with Citristrip Gel applied.
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dumb maneuvers? pulled out of the gas station with the pump still engaged in my truck's tank. The station attendant and the nice soccer mom in the Volvo at the pump behind me were thoroughly entertained.
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Hey there Kevin. This is a Superdeck product "hardwood exterior urethane". The Stripsol is getting at better now that I'm honing in more technique. New to this type of strip. While I was waiting out dwell time yesterday I did some testing with Citristrip as I had an old bottle in the truck from some furniture refinishing I did awhile back. Was almost more impressed with the Citristrip! I don't think this citristrip gel would be a cost effective approach to the strip in general as this stuff runs around $13 for 64oz. bottle.
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Thanks Beth, I will log that product into my stripper database. Appreciate it.
Rick,
Sounds like an AWESOME project! If you could send me some pictures when your done with it, I'd love that. I can hear that deck screaming your name!
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A bit odd. You're on the west coast working on ipe', while Peirce and I are here in NJ working on a 50 yr. old deck, constructed of old growth redwood! Don't think I want to switch jobs.Awe,come on Rick, I know you really wish you were out here in California working in pitch perfect weather on a suspended IPE with a breathtaking view of the golden rolling hills and San Francisco Bay in the distance!
Oh, did I mention Urethane?
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Matt, I suggested getting the kit of strippers to do a test. Which has Stripper Cream in it. Stripper Cream might be the ticket or there is Instrip which I use on Urethane jobs both of these are used on more difficult strips. Happy Stripping?Couldnt be happier, Jim. I have the tester kit coming next week for future goulie-stain testing. The strip moved along bit better today as I'm getting the hang of working with this new stripping chem,Stripsol. Keeping it wet w/ product NOT h20 misting...seemed to help. Lots of patience with this one but I can hear that Ipe beneath all of the carnage whisperin' sweet nothings to me!
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Took some pictures today, day one of a Urethane strip on an Ipe deck. Man, this urethane just laughed it's arse off at me! Pictures taken are after a 25min dwell, one pass rinse. Wondering if I can switch back to my less costly NaOH the 2nd pass through as I'm clearly going to be running short of Stripsol. Don't think that its any fault of the Stripsol, just this Urethane. Jury still out, but I did some testing with my NaOH @ 12 oz. p/g and it barely knocked on the door of this urethane.
So far, Urethane beatin' me up but Im not dead yet!
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Curious what the maintenance is with AC. Clean and re-coat similar to RS?
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It's day-1 tomorrow on this Ipe-Urethane deck. My Stripsol from Eaco Chem landed on time Friday. Looking forward to seeing how this Stripsol performs on an exterior urethane finish.
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gutters. or Hawaii. or education. work on a new degree. or, stare at wall until eyes begin to water. count fingers and toes (backwards, and then forwards...repeat). Over-eat (very effective treatment for depression). Stock up on tools, other work-related gizmos. overspend. increases motivation to get back to work next season. Sit on a park bench in the rain (or snow), talk to squirrel's and passerby's. inform them that you are, "just killing time" until the weather improves.
try out for a professional sports team.
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Very curious on this Stripsol from Eacochem. Let us know how it works, with pictures please!
I, too am curious how Stripsol performs on this big urethane strip... EACO Chem has a full suite of strippers on cleaning chems and this will be my first experience working with them. I will be posting some detailed process pictures working with Stripsol. Project slated to begin next Monday.
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Homeowner accepted my project proposal today.
Bring it On!
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Had a very informative discussion with EACO this afternoon regarding Stripsol. Planning on putting in an order this week. Should do the trick on this Urethane junk.
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PM me Randy, I will help walk you through it..
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Gooooooooooooood Times!!!!!!!!!! Just when I get a grip on acrylics (2 in the last 2 weeks), I get this Urethane!
I'm game.
I added another close up of the floor. This finish was applied last summer and has already started breaking up... The lower deck is pretty well protected, under the top deck..should be even more fun down there!
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Hey thanks Rafal, I appreciate that information.
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It seems like the IPE owners are all coming out of the wood work in the last couple of weeks out here... Thanks to everyone who weighed in on the last IPE thread I initiated for that NFL football player in No.California. Still waiting to hear from that guy...saw hime on TV last night actually...
Anyways heres another IPE, just met with HO yesterday... Felt much better equipped this time around. Homeowner appreciated my input as she spent $100K on this deck in 2004 and has been disappointed with the finish every year.
She was well aware of the unliklihood of anything holding up beyond a year on her deck. I advised her that the most cost effective approach would be to strip the existing failing finish (Superdeck Urethane Hardwood Finish) and get something on that IPE that can be effectively managed on an annual basis.
Im going to be working on my project proposal tomorrow. Deck is appx. 600 sq. ft of floor with handrails with minimal vertical work. The spindles are 3/4 copper tubing... Never stripped Superdeck Hardwood Urethane before, plan on returning for some testing on the steps. Anyone with experience stripping this stuff from hardwood?
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kev.. come to think of it, Rick said he had 357 spindles... 357x4 sides.. lets see, that would be belt sanding nearly 1500 sides of old spindles... Keeping those spindles steady whilst sanding..no thanks, cant really see the time or customer savings...at least in one of my ball games. Frankly, if I came across a deck that size with a solid on that many spindles, even if it WAS redwood, I would advocate Rick's approach... Makes slot of sense to me...
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Ouch..That is alot of stain..Beautiful though!Question, does the sturdiness of the existing spindle sway you one way or the other on whether to remove or change them out or not?
If wood is good I wonder if the remove and dip process could be applied to the existing wood by way of laying them all out tight together within a wood form and sanding them. On my end a low speed swing machine equiped with sanding driver would make short work of it but even a belt sander should suffice. Would have to rotate for each of the 4 sides but wouldn't that negate having to purchase, deliver,measure, cut, and drill new ones? Might save HO some money too?
Depends on the wood, PT, cheaper to take Ricks route I think. With the redwood decks we see, probably not, redwood too pricey for swapping I think. Rick mentioned something about this to me. Nice job Rick, man, 29 Gal's!
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Well Done, Rick! I can just see Peirce up there tapping the keg!
Has Anyone Used One of These Square Floor Sanders?
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I need to do some sanding on the floor of an Ipe tommorow and am trying to decide what to use this time. I have stripped appx. 80% of 2 coats exterior Urethane from this deck so I need to get the last of it off and get it prepped for staning on Saturday. My thinking is that a drum sander would be too aggressive and a hand orbital too time consuming taking into account the widespread nature of the remaining stain needing to come up.
Has anyone used on of these square sanding units? The guy @ HD Rental swears by them... Any input is appreciated! I'll be posting pics of this Ipe over the weekend. Thanks!