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    Steam Slingers Powerwashing & Decal Removal
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  1. De-identification Methods • Flame Torches, brush burners, heat guns applied at intervals to bring vinyl to pliable condition to peel/pull for removal. • Vinyl Removal Chemicals: paint and varnish removers, patented “vinyl off” specialty products and adhesive removers sprayed or wiped on then pressure washed, peeled, scraped or heated for removal. • Steam Utilization: saturated vapor, wet saturated vapor, dry saturated vapor, super heated vapor, high pressure steam and low pressure steam (continuous and non-continuous) directly applied to substrate to bring vinyl to adequate temperatures for pliable removal. • Friction Removal Tools: Wonder Wheel, 3M Stripe Off Wheel and other Grinder/Buffer “Eraser” accessories applied to vinyl with hi speed friction for removal. • Heat Technologies: Induction Heat Systems (Electromagnetic, Low-High Frequency), Infrared Heat Systems (Heaters, Coils, and Furnaces) and Radiant Heat Systems (electric, hydronic, and steam) directly and indirectly applied to substrate to bring vinyl to adequate temperatures for pliable removal. • Surface Color Blending: just paint over the darn thing with paint that matches substrate color The magic combination is a matter of experimentation and quantifying service costs. This article reveals our 20+ year knowledge of the Best Practices & Management of De-identification Costs for Commercial Carrier Corporate Resources. Contributing Factors: --Precedence or Time Constraints; How quickly the unit/s need to be done to contain daily costs of units to remain in active inventory. Are the targeted units being sold, converted or returned to leasing entity? --Age of Vinyl & Square footage; this is a pivotal factor for determining the most efficient method for removal. --Type of Vinyl; --Quantity & Location of Units. Steam utilization is our first choice in most situations. We use a custom engineered Multi-Head steam system to deliver up to 200PSI of dry/wet vapor, 275-300deg, to 1-6 100ft hoses. A single system has 6 workers removing decals at a remarkable pace. The adhesive is the 2nd part of the process. We use dLimonene based remover with emulsifiers then pressure wash residue.
  2. Gas Station cleaning

    110v burner. A souix steamer coil modified to a hot water generator. Puts out around 200-210f with the 5000/5 pressure washer. I imagine I will lose some heat, but have not really noticed a difference from 200f -180f in finished product. I think the chemical we use(potassium Hydroxide/Butyl mix) does most of the work. And when followed with brightener(chlorine[most effective] or oxalic [whatever we get cheaper]) no difference at all.
  3. Gas Station cleaning

    I will look into hose change to 1/2". and with the pressure pump, either way, the tsf2021 seems to be a more versatile pump for our operation. I am running the 24hp honda, so I would have to run it at the 1450rpm range and tweek the unloader. As far as experience, I hope others with more experience may chime in, as there may be factors we have'nt considered. And if not hopefully this thread will be helpful to others in the field. When I get the machine into the shop I will try to take some detailed pictures of all the workings of the machine for the benefit of us all. Thanks again Nigel.
  4. Gas Station cleaning

    The sock(for larger particles, cig butts etc.) usually last's, without leaf blowing the area first, for about 2 stations. Then we remove and replace with new, about 2 minutes. The 100 mic bag filter last's for around 8 stations, then we reverse and spray clean and re-insert. I had tried 200 micron bag filters, but ran into increased silt in system, damaging fins on pump more rapidly. I believe a 75 micron might be the way to go and hope to experiment with one in spring. I hadnt considered driving the swivel in reverse direction, but the impact would definetly be more productive. This may create more drag than available as my unit has a 14hp engine and may be at its limit when running the gen head. In our earlier design I can now see that a 18hp or better would have been a better choice. I guess we could do the modifications and if power shortage is a problem we could just re-aim the nozzles for kick back operation. Now the tsf2021 is actually designed to run 7gpm/3600psi @1750rpm. How do you believe 4000psi can be achieved with this pump? Increase rpm to 1825? And finally, we are running 3/8" pressure hose and there is 200ft on the reel that causes approx. a 350psi pressure loss. I thought to decrease to 150ft but the pressure gain would not be worth the trade off from length loss as we would have to move our equipment more frequently. Are you maybe suggesting a larger hose would have it's benefits? It is always a pleasure to talk with somebody in the field who is as interested in innovation and has hard experience with the equipment and their use.
  5. Gas Station cleaning

    Nigel, Thank you for a very helpful reply. This is along the line what I was considering. And yes the vacuum(3 stage Ametek Vacuum Motor) & pump(24V diaphram-12gpm@20ft head) are located in a false bottom in the forward part of the vac tank. The vac tank(approx 36 gal capacity) is sectioned into 3 compartments;particle, defoam then pump chamber. The vac & pump are driven by a 24v altenator utilizing the blade pulley and controlled by switches. And the recovery is done at the squeegee only. Also, I install a sock(drainage sock tied in a knot) which is inserted into a 100micron bag filter in the first chamber. I implemented the 24 volt system due to the size of the alternator compared to a 115v gen head. But now know the gen head might have been the more efficient power to utilize. The 24v system really restricts max. cfm(90-101) & pump gpm(10-15gpm) outputs. Where 115v vac heads have a greater range of vac cfm's(up to 146) and cheaper, more powerful pumps. I dont think the 24v vac would keep up with the increase in gpm's to 8, so I may switch over to the gen head. After calculating required power demand in a pump/vac(1104w/1800w) upgrade, a 4000w gen head will work with a 7BHP requirement leaving me at 72.6% of head output. And I assume the belt driven swivel should'nt generate much engine drag. Implementing the driven swivel, do you think I would be better switching the t5050(5000/5gpm) to a tsf2021(3600/7gpm) or would the cost not justify the gpm increase in productivity and loss in psi? Any suggestion would be helpful.
  6. Gas Station cleaning

    The 10,000 was a 125 X 80ft open area and not an accurate avg. as most gas stations have Pumps and such as obstacles. Never actually tried to figure the sq ft per hour with Gas Stations. I guess because there are too many factors other than what I answered from the previous question. However if we are talking specifically Gas Stations square footage............then One of the more larger stations we do has 11 lanes (120X12) + store entry area (40x60) totaling approx 16920sqft (I think I added this correct). It takes 4.5-5 hours with 2 men from landing to pull away. This one of the more difficult stations we do as it is right near two Universities. So that is around 3400sq ft for a Gas Station. Some of the smaller stations take about 2 hours with 2 men from landing to pull away @ approx. 9000 sq ft main factor being obstacles.
  7. Richard, We tried the multi-use concept early on but came to the conclusion that decreasing gpm (5+ to 1 or 2gpm) recommended for carpet cleaning on our larger pw equipment exposes us to equipment repair costs and client asset damage. Not to mention the loss of already limited space on rigs for the additional equipment. But more importantly, employees damaging assets due to "environment" exchange measures (from exterior commercial fleets to interior residential). Repetition is the rule for quality, safety and profit . Different set of BMPs for each field and use of equipment. However, addition of a seperate Carpet Cleaning division has been explored, only a dedicated fleet/equipment concept would our foundation. Be that as it may, in this economic climate anything goes to keep the doors open. The Truckmount we experimented with for dual utilization was 24hp with a 4mp blower. We changed out the pump to a ts2021, and when in pw mode were able to increase the pressure to full power without over powering engine by removing the vac tank cover and almost eliminate blower drag. If I were to attempt it again I would probably go with a 3 cyl or 38hp engine with a clutch installed on the blower and a larger generator head (5000w) for heater/accessory access. Currently we have a fury 2400 vac system that uses the same blower that in conjunction with our Hot units would give use Carpet Cleaning diversity. But for the reasons mentioned above the environment transition would be more costly I think than the field of profit is worth to realize. It should be easier for you switching from carpet cleaning to a pressure washing specialty rather than the other way around for us. I think I did a little contemplating rather than replying ............lol
  8. Gas Station cleaning

    We are averaging around 10,000 sq ft per hour. Factoring moderate gum accumulation, heavy oil stain, oxalic application and recovery.
  9. Gas Station cleaning

    I noticed that increased GPM is recommended frequently to speed up productivity. Unfortunately 8-10gpm slows us down because of water consumption. Most of our locations have water source at 5-7gpm supply. Not to mention slower speed to capture water on the fly without water dams and additional capture equipment. What our other alternatives?
  10. Gas Station cleaning

    We built a ride-on machine to clean gas stations & entryways to increase productivity/profit. It is supported by a 5000/5gal pressure cw-washer/heat generator and & 24volt onboard vacuum/pump-out system that sends water to our homemade closed loop recycling system. We use a concrete chemical cleaner that is potassium hydroxide/butyl based and get good results. We have to go real slow to obtain acceptable results. And we are looking for ways to speed up progress. Currently we are doing two med-large stations per night @approx. 2-3 hrs per. What would be the best way to increase our speed? The surface cleaner mounted to the machine is a 2 arm(1502 tips) 36" deck that spins from pressure generation, guessing maybe around 2000rpms. During winter downtime I am considering re engineering spinner to be belt driven to increase rpms to 3200-3600 rpms. We originally ran this machine from 5/3500 pw, and increased to the 5/5000, yet it only sped us up marginally. Increased heat to thermostat setting to 250f(maybe 185 at tips), no increase in speed but quality improved a bit along with increased o-ring failure & spinner replacement and more frequent hose replacement. Any ideas/recommendations? Here's a pic at unit and system, couple of my clients said we look like the beverly hillbillys traveling down the road, with the ride on unit. Ha! Hate the midnight hours, but the profit margin comparison to other tasks keeps us in the field. Richard Clos Operations Manager CC Signs & Specialties LLC 313-231-1477 http://www.steamslingers.com/
  11. Deck nightmare

    Thanks all. I know that to not share this retards growth & wisdom. I will rewrite my bid process, contract clauses and implement new job guidlines. I guess this is how to improve procedures & policies, through the difficulties that we're faced with. I continue to read the forums, and learn more everyday. I also understand that in this economy I have run into more of these kind of clients than when the economy was in better shape.
  12. Deck nightmare

    Wife approved on test patch. Husband didnt approve & said he contracted us. Why he didnt say something when he arrived home, cant guess.
  13. Deck nightmare

    More photos. 1st two are 2nd coat 3rd is final coat.
  14. well, here ya go. I need to share this and take your criticism. Three weeks ago I quoted a job for a client on cleaning the sealing his deck. The deck measured out to 1400 sqft, 21 ft rails, and 25(x5) lin ft of stairs. The deck was 4-5 years old and never been sealed/stained. Customer wanted us to "clean & seal" deck. No color was specified or wanted. We just started doing decks this year and bid $0.79($1264) sqft thinking we were in the low ballpark but would be a great job to add to our portfolio. The customer said he had 2 quotes under ours and he wanted us to do it because a mutual friend referred us, yet he couldnt go any higher than the middle bid @ $974.00 thats $0.61 sq ft(are any of you actually doing decks for this low?) We used EFC65 to clean, then brightened/neutralized. And returned to seal w/clear deckscapes sealer. Now, when we arrived only the wife was home, so we did a small area & had her view this for approval. She approved and said it looks great. So we mask off and fininish the deck seal (pics attached). About when we were loading the last of our tools in the truck the husband comes out(we didnt see him arrive as we were around back) and tells us the color is what he wanted, its too bright/yellow. I told him we had his wife come out and approve the test area & she didnt mention any problems with the color at that time. He cut me off mid sentence & said "his wife didnt commission us", and the color is unacceptable. Well, in attempt to sooth the customer We agreed to restain the deck with his choice of color for a measly $350.00. Now heres the situation. I just started using the Deckscapes product so I call the Sherwin Williams tech & ask if it is possible to just reapply over the coat we just applied or if we needed to strip back & neutralize? Probably should have asked you guys instead eh? He told me we most certainly could just reapply new color seeing as the products were the same. We did! Using Deckscapes transparent stain. Now, we have a customer complaining that he didnt want us to "paint" his deck(both coats combined gave us a solid stain result), the final product is unacceptable and that he wanted it stripped and re-stained at our expense. Once again, to soothe the customer, we agreed that it does look like a painted deck & would correct the problem (because the guy that referred us is an influential friend) until he was satisfied. We stripped & re-stained (pics attached), and it has been 5 days yet no final payment or return call. He gave us a $500.00 deposit leaving a balance of $824.00. A low bid to start with and an obscene loss in re-doing deck. And were assuming he's unhappy with the final product from no return call or payment. Never had a customer this difficult. We even removed stains from brick on the back of his house, and repainted the support poles on deck to match deck color. How far do you bend over for customers to retain integrity & honorable business practices? Cleaning [ATTACH]7602[/ATTACH] Brighten & 1st color [ATTACH]7603[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]7604[/ATTACH]
  15. Chemical for De-Identifying

    graphics removal is an animal of its own. It seems you all accomplish the process your own way. We have been doing just De-ID on semi trailers & such for around 15 years and we use propane torches, vapor steamers & chemicals whenever it requires. The trick is getting the vinyl off without adhesive seperation. Blasting them off has only created a clean-up problem and damage to substrates, the stuff has to be peeled off, with a heat source(vapor steam @280-300F 60-90psi is our preferred method). The adhesive is another matter. Applying adhesive remover with spryer(*when adhesive is dry) letting it dwell for 1-2minutes, then quickly respraying to re-activate and powerwashing off. D-limonene is what we buy 55drum, ZEP Big Orange works well, Rapid Remover is good but very expensive. Plastic scraper (Lil Chislers) are what we use to get under the vinyl. Laquer thinner is tooo toxic, alcohol is tooo slow, it should be D-limonene based product +75%. Age of graphics, type of material and climate conditions play major roles. And by any means, make sure it is not metalic based vinyl before bidding, if it is reflective call me, DO NOT BLAST IT OFF. Rich Clos CC Signs & Specialties Graphics Removal Experts 313-231-1477