Jeff

Been on the BB's for years and historically it seems August is slow for many pressure washing contractors. It gets slow for us in August every year too. So far every month this year we have done better than last year, we have been booked solid all of March, April and May is insane and June is pretty much packed, got some July & August jobs already

Surprising, by the poll 50% dont have Comp, I thought it would be much lower.

I'm covered in many states, but some of the large management companies ask for extra things to be listed, endorsements, waivers etc etc and it gets to be a PITA sometimes and has cost me more $$$ to add & meet their requirements, its all over the place sometimes for comp & GL when dealing with the big regional or nation wide companies. Just when you think you have every possible addition to your policies, you get a call from a different management company and they want something extra, argggggggg. Just part of doing biz, but man 9-15 pages of stuff just for insurance coverage. One job I probably got close to 35 pages of stuff before it was finally a signed contract. Is it worth it? Sure, but sometimes its just overboard. Forget what I had to go through for having coverage working up to 20 stories high It was funny I have coverage to hang off the side of a flipping 20 story highrise building on swing stage, but had to fight, kick & scream to get the right coverage to clean two story roofs, go figure I believe in being covered, a few hundred $$$ here, a couple thousand $$$ there, extra, to make sure I am covered, its worth it, better than doing a job and hope nothing goes bad. Not worth getting sued and possibly losing my company and more for one job Got to love insurance companies LOL

Has anyone heard anything from Keith at KBK, other than being mad with him, I am also concerned. My website he has on and off worked on since Dec2009 and he was almost finished and now I can't find him anywhere. Its real weird. Last contact was 3/22 and now nothing. I have heard from others looking for him Has anyone heard from him in the past month? Hope he's alright Keith you out there, contact me

I have heard that from him for months, He has my revised website 96% done two months ago, he started it at the beginning of Dec 2009. All thats left is to add a couple PDF's. He knew this was a major new part of my marketing, promised me stuff every other day and then nothing for weeks at a time. Horrible business, i have used him for years The problem is you say you heard from him last month, me too and now nothing for close to 4 weeks, no one has heard from him. I really wonder if something happened to him in these past few weeks. I tried relaxing, tried not to be mad, now i just wonder and look for someone else. I wish he would step up and finish the last little bit he has left. I spent hours and days getting him text, layout, pictures and he's left a long time customer hanging, its just wrong......no matter what, unless he's in jail or .... Its a shame, he's done great work for me

I have a guy that I hired recently, very mechanical, I just need to get him trained on ALL stuff, equipment for pressure washing Is there any BUSY repair shops/vendors that would like to help train my guy. I will send him wherever for a week and hopefully give him a crash course on the basics and a little detailed training. It will have to be after May. He's not lazy and a good learner, taught him washing in a week and does real well and he has a mechanical background pretty much Or are there any courses out there that are detailed? Thanks

Russ, I will call in the next couple days, Thank you

Thanks Scott, I will look at that pressure washing class and give them a call, he knows engines pretty well Thanks again

I started with a Genco Home Depot 3gpm machine about $1300, 10 years ago, 100 ft of pressure line, 150 ft of water hose, extension pole, scrub brush, couple years later went full time with 1 3gpm and 2 4 gpm and a rented 4 gpm did a couple big jobs and started buying what I needed. Before that I did tons of houses and Xjetted roofs like crazy. The BB's helped me a lot, before them I wasted some money and a lot of time and elbow grease I started with real cheap marketing, but never stopped, cheap fliers, cheap post cards, writing down addresses. I grow every year, except last year, I was down several K,, back to devoting much all my time growing my business and already reaping the benefits. Got to work it hard, if you want growth every year

God Bless

I go with what Scott and Greg say. I am for hiring employees, I like to keep as much of the money in house and I can do that better with employees. Employees are a PITA that I will always have to deal with. Like Greg, its taken a while but I have a good core group of 4 guys and they crank it out and make me money. Then I have the other 2-4 guys I need and theres the hassle, the training and the bums that are out there. Hire a guy spend a couple weeks traing and then they start not showing up or are good for a week and show promise and then you realize they don't give a crud about quality and cant figure out their a*s from their elbow I also believe in what Scott says, pick your jobs and niche I dont do wood and I don't wash homes. I am lucky on that, because I do have a contractor I send all that work to and he is great and reliable Maybe some day you should just go at this biz full time and build that profitable biz and take on more and more I'm at the point I need another rig, but I may only need it for a few months, do I spend 10K on a rig and 20K on a truck for 3 months of busy work? and if I do, how do I keep it manned when I only need the guys for three months, it will be an endless cycle of hiring and training every several months Adrian, pick your niche and keep looking for the right employee or go on American Idol Good luck brother, its a pain running a biz, but sure better than working for someone else

how much is he asking

The only License I need is a License To Kill, The name is Bond , James Bond I'm Jethro Bodine and I am a Double Knot Spy... Anybody remember the Beverly Hillbillies

I started this post in another thread and figured I would start a thread about it. I was looking at the PWNA, I heard rumors that Ron may run to become a major player BOD in the PWNA, so like I said I figured I would start a thread Ron why don't you put all your energy into the PWNA and just forget the *****, maybe say the h*ll with the *****. The h*ll ith Fenner, Carlos and all. If you put all your energy into the PWNA. Then all this conversation of the ***** can just go away, you and all wouldnt have to deal with it. Go sell the benefits of the PWNA. You have got many to join the PWNA. Is it true you are going to run for the BOD of the PWNA and if you do, what are your first priorities as a new BOD member of the PWNA. I have no idea if you are running eventually, you know rumors, but you are very active in support of orgs and seem to always want to help. I guess being on the BOD of the PWNA would be a natural fit for you and after all even thou you run NCE, you are a contractor first I don't know much about the PWNA, do they have elections? They are a for profit org correct? or are they a non profit Ron I see you say you may run or have some of your allies run for the *****, or if the ***** fails you will take it over and run with it to make it successful I know from hearing and reading that the PWNA has asked John T to be involved in the PWNA and I know in Texas they asked Celeste to be more involved in the PWNA and NCE & PWNA have teamed up this year on the RNCE/PWNA Round Tables. So are you going to run for President or BOD member? I know Tony ************** likes the PWNA, you got all the guys that are running it now, I am sure they arent all going to be running it all the time, for the rest of time. I figure one or two or more may want to move off the BOD sooner or later Maybe you Tony, John T, Celeste and whoever could be on the BOD and bring your outside the box thinking and make the PWNA the only force to deal with in the pressure washing industry What would be your priorities as Prez of the PWNA or as BOD member Like I said I see all these folks joining now and I am just trying to figure what are the benefits to these established companies joining and what would be the benefit of me joining. I am real hesitant to join, just because of all this stuff all over the BB's and how I used to be not really caring to join any org, still pretty much am, but I did join Celestes PWNC as a business decision Like I asked what would be the benefit of my company joining if you and others ran the PWNA BOD or even if it stays run by the present PWNA with an addition of others sooner or later I am just trying see the benefits to my company, If I was to join the PWNA, because thats how I make all my business decisions. I like their Contractor directory As an established company, why should I join or other established companies why should they join? I know they have some certifications for what Hood and vent and they also have some other type classes, but for us established companies that dont need their present certifications and don't want to take a Wood Cert what would you do as a new BOD member of the PWNA or just as a member at large Would you start or want the PWNA to start a certification class for ALL pressure washing contractors like has been mentioned in the past. A certification for say Flatwork guys, Multi unit guys, Residential guys, commercial guys etc etc etc I know Scott Stone and I think you and many others have commented before on the ***** and medical benefits, do you think the PWNA should try to go for Medical insurance for members or even non members Like I said I like the contractor listing on PWNA, but other than that, to me it looks like it would just be a logo rental type thing for me and other established companies I guess what I am saying what do you think the PWNA mission should be or should they just stay the same as they are now I know you drive me crazy at times, but you have some good ideas for the industry and you are a smart businessman I think since the ***** has had its share of headaches, maybe you as the PWNA President or hey even the Exec Director or BOD member could help make a strong org a force in the industry John T you, Tony, the men that run it now could really move the PWNA on the real fast track John T are you going to run for BOD of the PWNA, would you if Ron was going to or Tony or Celeste? Whether one, two or none of you are running in the future, tell me what you think should be the priority of the PWNA as it goes forward Thanks, I think you should ruun Ron, you know you have the energy, you are like the Everready Bunny of the Pressure Washing industry Good luck and give us a little sales pitch or why I or anyone should join the PWNA

Man this is what its all about. Boy do they grow fast, buying new clothes for them every couple months LOL, Love my kids

John, Me in Orgs, no desire, not because of the BS necessarily, its just to much work that would take away from my biz and Family. I liked helping on the BB's over the years, I see some guys I have helped doing pretty well doing condo work now and that is really cool, I really liked the Myrtle Beach RT Ron and I did in 2008, I had a blast, but ask Ron why I did that Round Table????? I did it to have fun, have a party and hang with contractors. Not to start a PWing revolution and start Orgs and do RT's all over the country, thats for others. I did try to help with the *****, I was very hesitant, but i gave it a shot and don't regret now that I did, I just don't want to deal with it now and in the future I now know I don't want to deal with it. If I can't enjoy what I am doing and have fun at it, I just don't want to do it, the Org stuff the way things always seem to be, doesn't fit into that fun I want to have But I tell you I would love to see a PWING with 5000, 6,000 or more members some day, really doing good things to promote our industry and the contractors, we'll see

Good post Ron Good luck to all

I hear you Rod,but the post wasn't about the ***** and I hear you about Ron. I know Ron has a passion and that's why I was asking, heck that's why I like the guy 50% of the time LOL

I don't really know any of them in charge, I am sure all are first class guys, from what I hear, I know most there names and know they are all very succesful I did like speaking to Daryl Mirza for a few minutes in Texas, on how he acquires other companies, real smart man and it was an interesting subject. Like I told you on the phone, I think guys like him should have 2. 3 hours or more to talk at your NCE RT's, this is the kind of stuff I like to hear, the indepth stuff I was just asking, I look at all things and was looking at the rejuvenated PWNA and heard you might play a bigger part and then when I saw that you said if the ***** failed you'd take it over and start it up, I figured maybe that's the direction you may go, running for the BOD or Prez. So hearing and seeing things I figured I'd ask I figured the men running PWNA arent all going to do it forever, people and BOD members always come and go. I think you have the smarts, the knowledge etc. Plus I just wanted to see what the PWNA is going to offer its members and wanted your take on it.I have no idea if they have elections or are picked, no idea if they are for profit or not, just don't know that much, never really followed them and now I see many people I like or admire or seee as good businessmen join or talk good about the PWNA, Wasnt trying to get you riled up, just looking I guess you could say

Ya I know and have heard or lived all that stuff Scott, this post wasn't about the *****. The post was just to see if Ron was going to be part of the PWNA BOD and what he thinks its mission should be, but I guess it always comes back to the ***** these days for some

Well I went out to be practical and buy a work truck, so I could get out of driving my 98 Marquis. well I opted for something a little pretty to drive instead. I'm really liking cruising in it, has some nice and some cool options, I think it will be a couple years before this is a work truck I'm not doing much to it, adding Line X to bed, A low profile tool box and I put a new grill insert on it, chrome where the black is, looks cool, just ordered some nice seat covers too. Plus I like the crew cab, take the whole family in it, my son wanted black, my wife wanted Chevy, I just wanted out of the Marquis LOL Some good rebates on trucks out there now

I couldn't afford the other two feet LOL This might be an actual work truck in a couple years, for now its just to get me around

Man I would flip out, new trucks shouldnt do that. good luck with it Russ

Steve Rowlett used to sell it. You can get it from Flynn Distributors, thats who makes it and you can buy from them . I dont have a link, but the company is a ***** Supplier Member Its a good product

I heard he makes that just on NCE events:lgmoneyey:dance: National Cleaning Expo - Mobile Cleaning Events