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I agree but some areas have the oil and some dont, so they will be fighting over who gets the oil & money. i figure it would be good to seperate them if they can work it out. I hope someone is working on a plan like that or something simular that could be worked out or as Phil says I say NUKE THEM BROWN PEOPLE....onlyyyyyyyyyyyy kiddddddddddiiiiinnnnnnnnggggggggggggggg. You know something Phil I never thought of them as Brown People , now Towel Heads is more like it. Damn I try to be so liberal and then I blow it with a very UN PC remark like that. What would my Idol Teddy Kennedy say about me:winking:

Kevin I can't disagree with you, it is all a rehashing. Sadly It is all politics, but what do we do stay or go?? I just dont see much reason or hope for staying. I cant stand Pelosi i wish she would screw up so we could get her out of there, because thats the only way they do things in Washington. I think we have some of the weakest Democrats ever now in Washington, I hope I'm proven wrong, but I cant stand or trust Bush and Im hoping that at the end of his term we will get someone that can work with both sides who ever wins. Pork is everywhere, they all pass bills that are worthless, when will they learn? I know your son and all that who are in the military are smart people. I hope they can see that even us who want them out are behind them 100% and thats the main reason we want them out I have stated before I'd be willing to fight if i thought we had a winable plan. I hate to leave unfinished and in defeat. I still to this day wish we just didnt go in, but that doesnt matter anymore. I wish someone could tell me how we could do this thing right and win. Can it be done and how We love our soldiers Kevin even liberal old me and many like me. Believe it!! I'm done

PAGE 2 Sorry So we all followed like sheep, yes even those who we hire to question things didnt, except a few. We follow and those of who dont like Bush to begin with can see discrepancies in whats being told to us and what we see, yes I agree the majority of the news media does lean to the left, but the facts are we arent seeing a smooth running machine, that we are told is running smooth. I figured 140,000 tropps would probably be enough, but then I think why in the 1st Iraq war did we have 500,000. Several months after Mission accomplished I think was the real point people started questioning the war. We naturally question things and we are seeing things get worse, yes they dont show the good things like schools and stuff like that , but the facts are after good things alway come bad. We would clear an area of insurgents and then leave to go to another area and then the insurgents just walk back in. Many now are asking for us to leave in America, many are asking for more troops but what does the admin do, no change stay the course we are told. we wonder if we can see things going wrong why cant the admin. All along we here Haliburtin is making billions, we hear stay the course, we hear we are unpatriotic, we are 1000, 2000, 2500 soldiers are dead, we hear we are training Iraq police and troops from the beginning and they will take over, we see no troops that will stand and fight we see all our soldiers hard work training them show no real results. To this day we have over 50% of the troops just disappear, we are told many many things and dont see results. SO WHAT DO WE DO..........We start to see things are being run wrong by our President, althou he will not admit it, he doesnt ask for more troops Rumsfeld says we dont need them, I know war isnt easy, it isnt predictable, its hell, TELL US THAT and then change, but all we got up till 8-12 months ago is everything is going OK, this is 3-4 years after Mission Accomplished. So we as American people question why are we there, if we stay what will it accomplish, many of us cant see the way its being run that it will accomplish anything and you know the way it was being run wasnt and wouldnt accomplish anything SO WE AS AMERICANS lose faith and we say GET OUR TROOPS OUT and let the cards fall as they may. We know leaving may cause death, we know leaving may bring insurgents in more, we know leaving will look like defeat, we know leaving is defeat but if we see no winning plan or actions we say get out and save our soldiers. We cant just keep following a losing plan, plain and simple Are we unpatriotic for wanting out NO, are we concerned about some of the same things Bush followers are concerned about yes. But Bush hasnt shown us the way. Its a total picture, we see other things going on, everything is political and Bush is one of the best at playing politics so do we follow him, do we trust him, no we cant its seems to many that this is a game and it isnt. So all the political stuff and some of the lies or games play take away from his credibility also There were elections, we couldnt trust who was in charge so the people wanted change, they got it and if we see the same old same old we will ask for change again. We the people have to voice our opinions more but we are lazy or content. Bush supporters should question Bush and push him to be a better Commander in Chief I say get out, we are in a no win no win situation with a president I dont have much faith in. Fight the war on terror here and now. Go after extremist with CIA Delta Force Guided Missles. Beef up our Homeland Security, dont start a program for security and dont fund it. Get out of Iraq and use the $$$Billions for homeland Just babbling, I'll stop for now sorry its probably a blur of blabbling but so isnt this Iraq thing

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Kevin, good post I'm going to try to explain some of my views, not to fight or anything, just to help explain what I feel and what i think many Americans feel on why now we may want the war to end or come to a conclusion. I'm not a great writer and in this posting I may be all over the place and may sound like mindless babbling but I'm just going to write things as i think of them. Kevin as you are a parent of a soldier I want to thank you and your child for doing what he does. I am not against the military at all and most americans are not I would guess to say 99.99 % aren't , yes there are some nuts that are and they are extreme. I am 100% behind our military soldiers, that doesn't mean I cant be against what the military brass say or do. It doesn't mean I have to support Rumsfeld 100% when I think he was wrong on many things. I think we don't fund the military enough, actually thats a fact. Its like Jack Murtha, I never really heard of him until he came out for getting the troops out. Some hate him and some love him for his present position. Well from what I've read and heard about him he was one of the strongest supporters of the military for decades. What I think is he saw things being run wrong and after trying for change and answers , which he saw there was going to be no change under Rumsfeld and wasn't going to get many answers from the Bush admin he decided he had to take what would be considered a Strong or extreme view and for the soldiers on the ground I think he said the way things are going he rather have them out than continue on a no win course. I feel he thought we were fighting a war but not doing what was need to actually win that war. Now Murtha has stated that with the new Sec of Defense Gates he feels Gates is trying, he says Gates is giving answers to questions that should of been answered all along. Will he turn around now and say leave the troops and fight on, no, for a couple reasons as I see it, some is partisan politics and some is I think he thinks we may of lost the opportunity to win this war and some is mistrust of the Bush admin I think many Americans that were for the war and now against it ( yes I know sounds like Kerry) are against it for several reasons, some of the same reasons i gave when I talked about Murtha. Some Americans feel its a war we cant win as in other past wars and they feel why have our boys killed for a people or a Regen, that have either been killing each other for centuries or for a people that wont rise up against what we think is evil I may to some sound like I'm flip flopping but just because my views change with time doesn't necessarily mean its flip flopping Alright now I give you my views on President Bush, this is how i feel about him when it comes to the war in Iraq and some other things, I am going to right this without trying to be inflammatory and I hope you all understand I'm just trying to write how I feel and I hope I'm not multi quoted just to be torn apart for my views and if I am I will not respond to negative just for the sake of being negative. True I do not like President Bush. I feel I'm a pretty good judgment of character ( I may be I might not be but I feel I am). I've supported past republicans on many of their views in the past, yes I may be liberal on many domestic issues but when it comes to soldiers I'm 100% for them. Now Bush I feel much of what he has said and done is for the benefit of getting elected, some was lack of experience, some was lies I think, some was strong feeling he holds. I've always thought something about him doesn't ring true. I've posted and have been shot down many times saying that Bush was going to go to Iraq no matter what even before 911 happened, thats how i feel and I cant and shouldn't really have to prove thats how I felt, I'm not lieing. I have alway been a current affairs kind of guy, I watch the news Fox,MSNBC, CNN, read Newsweek, The National Review and many other things. But just so some know my thoughts about Bush & Iraq. I used to talk with my mom & dad about politics all the time. Before my dad passed away we would have talks all the time. and way before 911 I had said to him Bush is going to go after Iraq, because he wanted to because I felt he had to get Saddam for wanting Bush Sr killed and I felt he thought his father lost reelection in part due to not going all the way in the 1st Iraq war. so that is why I say he was going to Iraq no matter what and thats why I say he lied to us saying it was because WMDs or to liberate the people of Iraq I feel with many who are Bush supporters they follow blindly SOMETIMES, no trying to **** you all off. I see a president that I too was behind 100% after the 911 attack, thats how we are as Americans, Althou I didn't like Bush prior to 911 I would have followed him to hell and back after that horrible day. I think this is where some don't understand us liberal or democrats or us who want out of Iraq ( many who want out of Iraq are also republicans, many in the armed forces and many from all walks of life not just us flip flopping liberals) We were attacked and we stood behind our president, we listened to his arguments for going to war in Afghanistan, we all/most said go get them, we all said yes sign the Patriot Act, we said go do what you have to do to kill who killed us. We would of all probably said go ahead and NUKE Afghanistan if he said thats the only way we can get them all or if they said they (Afghanistan had nukes) So when the intelligence and the administration said Saddam had WMD's that he or other could use against us, or Saddam was working on nukes to use against us we questioned some of it, but since 911 happened we said DO what you have to to protect us and it was also for revenge. I and many others thought it was possibly a bad idea or not the time to go to Iraq, but we wanted to be behind our president and our country so we basically gave him carte Blanche to do what ever he wanted. Unlike some Bush supporters we did have some reservations some were spoken and some never said a thing. What I didn't like back then was how if you spoke your mind against the war in Iraq or against Bush, you were labeled unpatriotic. A lot of that labeling was as I saw it a ploy, to get there way on the war and some I thought & think was nothing but a ploy to get elected, because yes unfortunately BOTH parties will say or do just about anything to get elected. So here we are 100% or 90% what ever behind the president, we hear things that aren't ringing true, we go to Iraq, we find no WMDs right away, but we hear Bush, Chenney, Rumsfeld say we will find them, they are there, we wait still no WMDs, well then we hear its not just because of WMD's that we went to war, we are now there also because we have to help liberate the Iraq people ( hold it, that wasn't the original reason that wasn't in a UN resolution) I'm not a huge fan of the UN, but we do need something and the UN is all we have. So the war goes on. Now we are fighting this war and Rumsfeld is making all these press conferences and looking pretty happy with how things are going and yes I said it before that as Rumsfeld has stated the war will cost us $10 billion and Chenny was saying we have the insurgents on the run, that was over 3-4 years ago they said that. Just a year ago Chenney was saying we have them on the run. Nothing I have seen says we have anyone on the run. So we are in Iraq, we have a president saying MISSION ACCOMPLISHED . Everybody is feeling kind of good, we think the war will be over soon, months maybe a year or so. I'm thinking good, but things start to change the people in the streets of Iraq are looting there is NO police no military to stop them. American are wondering why we cant control it when we are told we can. The admin keeps saying everything is great. We as Americans can see that everything isn't great, why is our government saying it is. We are wondering why we pulled many from Afghanistan, we weren't told at 1st we would be pulling 75% or more of our troops out. Why weren't we told some and I are wondering. we see our president who is suppose to be for the military isn't protecting are troops. We all thought our servicemen would have EVERYTHING they need, we are a super power but we don't have vest for soldiers!!!! we don't have armored vehicles for our soldiers. We try to question it and all we are told is we are UNPATRIOTIC. I wonder to this day why they kept trying to say everything is alright, it wasn't until recently anybody in the administration said some things were done wrong. I wonder why our president didn't come to the American people and ask us to sacrifice something. Why didn't he say hey we are going to charge everybody something to help contribute to the military, or say hey we need more military so we are going to need to start a draft. A lot wasn't asked of us the non military people. I wonder and think, he asked us to do nothing because it would of been unpopular and yes it would of hurt his and others chances for reelection next page

NUKE EM........ Have a good one

Most of it should come off with a strong hose wash mix. Your mix should have strong RPC Citra Clean or Simple cherry and a longer dwell and may need 2 applications. Then the black stuff you'll usually see on the dryvit near roof lines, there is times you cant get the stuff completly off even after several applications. Some soft brushing may be required. Dont promise them the world, explain that some of the finish may have permanant stains/damage Its a shame people let their property go like that. Then they wonder why there is damage Good luck Jeff

Pretty good post ! Jeff

Scott and others that totally disagree with me I guess we'll just have to disagree. Im done on this subject. I started this because of the INSIDE 911 show i saw, if someone hasnt seen it they should. I think they should show the Towers coming down at least once a week because i do think we sometimes just talk so much BS, we almost forget what happened on 911. I'll never forget and I hope someday we get BInLaden and most of all I wish & pray we can get along with the whole world and put terrorist where they belong....DEAD BURIED . It would be nice if all countries in the world rose against terrorism and wiped it out. I can dream:USA: :USA: :USA: :USA: Jeff

What are your long term goals for your PW or wood restoration biz? Do you want to be a successful one or two man(women) operation? Do you want to be successful and have a couple crews or more? Do you want run your biz and have others do the actual cleaning restoration work and you just run the biz? Do you want to be the biggest in your area or state? Do you want to have the biz running well and have someone else manage it and you collect the money and you do other types of biz's? Do you want to do this part time for a hobbie or spare money? Do you want to just do it seasonal ? Do you want to do it just when you want and come and go as you want. No employees, no hassles, no ties, no head aches? Money! what kind of money do you want to be making in the future, enough to live off of the biz. A lot of money, a ton of money. What kind of money do you want or need to be a success or comfortable Well you all know I want to be the KING. I feel that if you can make enough money to pay yourself and or your employees and pay your bills and have a certain comfort level for a small biz thats a great success. I personally think someday I could be the largest ( dollar & projects ) in my area. I may want to expand to being a PW contractor that is throughout the state, but dont feel I really have to because there is so much work in my area and work I like condos & flatwork to some extent. I'd like to do a minimum of $450,000 - $500,000 every year. I dont know if that will be sustainable year in and year out. Althou it may be and may be even more. I dont want to be the largest just because money , I find it a challenge, I find it a thrill to watch it grow, I like the fact that after all these years I'm building something. No matter how busy I get, and the way I do things, the hard way usually when it comes to the paper /computer end of it. No matter the employee hassles I find this REAL FUN and thats cool I would like to just run the biz and be out getting more work and inspecting the projects we do. I always wanted a biz and one were I didnt have to do all the work and as I get older in the Southern heat I know I definitly dont want to be doing the labor See I was a late starter for the goals I now want and think I can reach. But I really like to dream, Heck I dream about winning the lottery and helping family & freinds. I dream now that my biz could do a million $$$ or more a year. I dont know if that can be done and its not what Im going for today, but if I can reach one goal I might be able to reach others when it comes to biz You know the upcoming 2007 season gets me thinking & dreaming. What are your goals, thoughts & dreams If I win a big lottery........the hell with my PW goals:lgbugeyes . My kids will be going to school on a Caribbean island and we'll all be swimming with the dolphins just enjoying the breeze:island: :martini:

Very diplomatic Larry. You should be proud of yourself, you said you were going to stay out of posting on politics and you're doing well. Come tell us what you think, come on, come on LOL Nice avatar

Hang in there James, I know we all are hoping for the best for you, good luck Life can be a PITA. Like my Dad always told me, everything gets better

Did you want a Pressure Pros pressure washing franchise or a restora deck franchise. good luck

Good goal - Best quality wood contractor I think I also have reach a good goal and that is being really good at what we do and being reliable which is part of being a good reliable contractor. Last night we were out doing a hospital job, have been there a few times in the past couple weeks. Well they had to block off certain areas. one security gaurd and one maint. guy said to me. You know your good, the other guy who used to do this never showed up when he said he would. I guess they would block all kinds of stuff off and this guy wouldnt show up or call. Then as I have mentioned I quite often have had PM's tell me I'm the only vendor they can trust to show up and do things right. I hear often. After the security guy said it, I tried to think back since i started condo & commercial work I have never not shown up and I have always got the projects done in the time frame I told them I would When I 1st started I heard from many people contractors around here are unreliable and they are right. So I made it a goal to not be one of them and it isnt that hard to do. So a short & long term goal has and will always be to be The best and that includes reliability & customer service. That in itself will help my company grow to possibly the largest & the best What do you mean nobody likes me when Im serious. I am a very serious person Rick:banana: :alien: :taz: Your goal of being in the Keyes or Costa Rica sounds veryyyyyyyyyyyy cool good luck with it

Discount is good. Looks like a nice spread Speaking of spread, did you take your lover Hillary? LOL

Apoligize to you, you've been insulting since your 2nd post directed towards me and its continued. So if your waiting for an apology, you mayhave a bit of a wait. (BOLD) You said what about me, my character, ( that one sort of pissed me off a little) fathers day, brown people, read "there's a novel idea" crap and all the other nice stuff you have said, talk about free shots, you can have them all..............Actually I do read quite a bit my son loves Dr Suess and all the other great books with big letters & pictures:lgsideway ( don't you just love these smiles) You quite often have a rude and insulting manor and a way of twisting things sometimes when you post , I just figure thats you and its cool. you seem smart, and smarter than me educationally, but Phil you are not always right!! althou you think you are I'm tired now just got home from a long day & night working a hospital job , so I dont much feel like fighting or responding to all your comments. I do stand by 99% of what I posted and you can agree or not agree on WMD's or all the other stuff, just doesnt matter here, now does it. So did anyone see - Inside 911 - overall , good show, sad JL The Future Condo KING of Myrtle Beach:lgwave: See ya phil:bullistic The heck with bin laden , get phil

My boy just got over a bad virus, pooping & puking, my little girl has been sick for 4 days and crying for all those days, been to the doctors office a couple times. Not much sleep and going a little crazy. I'm 45, my wife is 27, my son is almost 4 and my baby girl is 7 months. My wife is always says she wants more babies. I keep saying NO. For some reason all of a sudden I want more kids maybe 2 or 3 more I always wanted a gang of kids, am I CRAZY..........YES. We'll see I want a gang of kids so they can watch out for each other and we love our kids so what the heck, I might just go for it. They dont call me stud for nothing, OK its not they its my wife LOL I crack my self up and now I think I finally cracked LIFE IS GOOD!!! Jeff

Sure wish I knew how to use that multi quote feature, but I'm not as smart as you Fact no WMD's any logical person can ASSUME there was no WMD's since our goverment (GW admin) said there was none. You can only assume this because they did find old WMD's, they didnt find ANY new WMD's, they found NO document supporting a program. No WMD's No Program you're wrong, but you're a stubborn as the rest so I guess we could just fight on My character - Oh you really hurt me on that one. Thats not like you Phillip to go after the sympathy thing. Die like dogs they have been for century's. Not a damn thing we can do about it. If you want to be the policemen for the world, start another goverment and go save the world. Hell we have children being dragged off in the states, molested, sold, murdered, abused & starved, but all you say if they cant better themselves the hell with them. Dont you say something like that Phillip??? Take care of our own 1st. You have a nice Father day too, I'll have a great one...I do feel for all people but until the world is perfect the hell with them. Merry Xmas take that Phillip LOL Ho Ho Ho Ha Ha Ha GW.... Was I guessing what he was thinking? Do you really think he thinks LOL There were people in his admin & Chenney said that they were working on Plans . It I thought was pretty well known that GW Jr wanted Saddam for one the main reasons is that Saddam wanted to kill GB Sr. I would want the same if they wanted to kill my father, but I'm not the President, to bad huh Phillip JL for PREZ. I'll spout what ever I want you do with your onesided ignorant comments There was a lot of Chicken **** stuff going on, yes we were still in 911 hysteria. But a lot of the mistakes is his FAULT he is commander in cheif, aand it was his plan. The dumb a** is him. I guess you forgot "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" he actually thought that was it. I heard them say many times it will cost 10 Billion and then they will pay with Iraqee oil, "They will great us as "LIBERATORS" They didnt send enough troops and then when many were asking for more troops he didnt, he just kept listening to Rumsfeld.. His plan his mistake not to plan better, thats what we pay him for See phillip planned & exacuted.... I never wanted us to go to Iraq. I rooted for our troops when we did, but I told many before Iraq that Bush will go and then came 911 So were we cowards to leave Vietnam or shoould we have just kept fighting and add maybe another 60,000 dead. We werent cowards for leaving I really dont actually want to leave Iraq, I hate the thought of it, but I dont think Bush will do the right thing or plan right I dont trust his skills, so if he's there as prez i say work on getting out of a bad situation YES Who the crap cares about Kerry, does he matter when it comes to the war on Iraq..........Spoken like a true Bush supporter you funny Phillip. Have a great war and enjoy NO WMD's NO PLAN, FACT!!!!!

You're wrong on one point Phillip. They werent working hard of developing WMD all we have found to this date is very old and deteriorating WMD from the 1st Iraq war, ITS A FACT Safe haven for terrorist......not really just like any country in the middle east and Somalia and several other islamic countries there are terrorist. The facts are we had Iraq contained much more so than many of the other countries. We cant go to a full out war with every country that has terrorist, covertly yes we can but not full scale war. Saddam was contained, I dont care that he was killing his own. Now that he is gone Iran has stepped forward like it always has wanted to. Saddam was the one thing that kept Iran in check and all the past presidents knew that including George Bush Sr, thats why he didnt go all the way to Bagdad. George Jr wanted to get Saddam way before 911 and only used WMD, then 911 to to what he did. Contained Saddam wasnt a big worry that should of taken away from the big picture. First they say we are going to get Bin Laden "Dead or Alive" and spend billions on Home Land security. All the money we are spending to fight the Civil War in Iraq and to give the Iraqee people basically Welfare, yes because we ruined their country, but its still welfare. We have taken Billions & billions away from Homeland Security for this never ending and not well thought out war. We had the world behind us when we were going after Bin Laden (yes how long they would of stuck with us is a question) But if we didnt go to war with Iraq we would have more allies. I know you wont agree but GW made a mistake going into Iraq when he did and we are paying for his mistakes. You CANT say it wasnt a mistake either going or how the whole war was planned and executed - Even the George Bush administration has come out SEVERAL times and said there has been many mistakes or it not going like they planned. WE WILL BE TREATED LIKE LIBERATORS .... I think GW actually believed that, did they really think an Arab country we'd just walk in and they would thank us right away. I'm not saying Saddam was good, Im not saying that someday we might have had to go get him. I am saying we didnt need to now and because we did we ( GW) has made things worse. II also think some of it was lies and they knoew it Huge waste of manpower, are you talking about Iraq? No Bin Laden I know , but at least we would of got who actually financed and help plan 911. Now we have the Taliban rising again why because we didnt stay and finish that job. Plus home land security is lacking There is no clear way to stop terrorism, Im afraid its here to stay, of course it is. So sad We could be a lot of other places doing better things than just being in Iraq creating more terrorist every day Working hard to develop WMD's WRONG!!!! oh ya bad intel good reason to still be in Iraq. Oh thats right we are there to liberate and build their nation for the Iraqee people. GW pre 911 " I'm not into nation building like the democrats" oops got to go

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Funny Tell her it against your religion, what can she say Good luck with the new baby coming. CONGRATS

Hey Jarrod. How many ****** does it take to screw in a light bulb>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know one, because they work for Jarrod ,Ha Ha Ha I crack myself up No group hugs, thats just gay 2007 is the year Good luck to you Jarrod Hey did you hear John T did Hillary

Hey did you guys hear that JOHN T did Hillary, I dont want to start any rumors but.......... Its OK John we understand Ha Ha Ha