Jeff

Know what? its the crazy internet, it drives us all nuts, every BB is going nutsy, we are all flipping BB wack jobs LOL LOL . I wonder what the other 20,000 plus pressure washing contractors that dont post on the BB's DO. Oh what they are missing....... NOT Silly internet

The internet is just one flipping crazy place. I think Beth does a great job 98% of the time. I don't agree with infracting Mods thou, other than that Beth you do great job and offer a great BB to all and you are allowed to screw up too Mel was always a great Mod, Scott too. I wish they wouldnt leave as mods but I undertsand how they feel. I'm a mod on a couple BB's its not always fun and games thats for sure Crazy flipping internet. I really get sick of all the cr*p on the BB's sometimes, but over all thet are a good resource

People need to grow up or shut up. Scott can't blame you at all, BS is BS. Scott its alway been a pleasure reading your posts, talking to you and seeing you at RT's and being a Team member with you on the *****, your insight and how you say it is always is always right on.

I support your efforts Beth & Rod, I am not the best mod in the world but I agreee with what you are saying TCN and then TGS helped me basically do my business these two BB's were instrumental in JL Pressure Washing learning how to wash and grow my biz. Its always been a good/great BB Enough bull cr*p has gone on and you all have done a great job, through the good & bad Rock on

ohhh ya I know what you mean I get checked yearly. A regular check up saved my mothers life. They caught lung cancer in her early and took care of it. She's close to 4 years cancer free. I rather get checked than die any day Get checked everyone

Good article Beth. Time Management and customers service is always important. I am not the best office person, but when it comes to scheduling I stay on top of it. I can't imagine screwing up with a PM and saying oops I forgot. I have a screwy way of doing things at times but it works and keeps my customer service A+ Good read!!!

Thanks Ken F & Scott M are heading it up and just doing a great job. Taking industry related articles

I think Whisper Wash are some of the best by far. I like the solid bar and they are just tough machines. The 19" Classic for a 4gpm machine. 5.5gpm or above I would use the WW Big Guy.

Not rambling at all, thats how I was and still am at times. I have to weight the benefits on anything I join. I have joined a few orgs in the last 1 1/2 years. I now wish I joined them years ago The ***** is putting down a good base for contractors to gain knowledge & jobs and some other good stuff. I am in this biz to make money and hopefully by my good work, promote the industry too....But mainly "Show Me The MONEY" I think a good org will help me in that Hey Russ you going to the Bama RT? LOL

LOL true. Thats what I mean Dan, thats how you are seen and as a newbie. People may not want to give you help or info. Not picking on you, just how the BB's have always been

I agree, just nothing much we can or should do about BB's and newbies. I feel its best to meet someone too.

All these BB's started basically to help newbies like most of us were. Ya some guys will take info and still be a hack in your backyard, but what you can anyone really do about it, its the way it is Dan, you have done a couple posts about PT State lately, if you dont like it that much, just stop going there for a while. Bob has a good BB, Bob also uses it to send newbies to, Bob sell parts, equipment and chems so its a great markketing tool also for him. Its his business to educate newbies, its his money too. Its Bobs BB Dan there was a lot of talk about you for some time, many think you are a newbie and they don't stop you from posting, dont worry about it, these BB's are public

I heard Jims Garage is bringing his to all NCE events :)

Man I just got my renewal for WC $16K, just part of doing biz. I just hate that some of my competition plays the system, they either hire under the table or they list employees as subs and they pay for their ghost policy. Theres so many ways to get around the cost of WC for contractors that dont mind taking risk. Just isnt fair or right, if you are going to do biz, do it the legal & right way. All contractors insurance cost are effectted by those who play the system They dont know when someone get hurt bad working for them it can cost them their biz. You dont think if someone gets hurt bad working for them and they have no insurance, who do they think they are going to sue when they have no money...the contractor who's been paying them & playing the system. Lawyers and insurance companies will see right through the cheating scam Like I said WC is just part of doing business, just like putting gas in the truck.

Relax guys, Bob & PT State arent going anywhere, he just probably wanted a little R & R from the daily grind Relaxxxxxxxxxx

Bobs a pretty smart guy, he will take care of it all in his own way. Probably wanted a break from the silly stuff. I'll tell you I already miss it thou, I make my rounds there several times in a day Hey Bob you out there? Thanks for dinner brother

We run into open windows on complexes often. We try going to the door, we can't leave and come back so we either work around it or just dont do a little section. I will notify the PM if a lot of windows are open on a few day or more project. Usually/always the PM says do the best you can. I have had 6-8 calls out of thousands of buildings for water getting in. A few were open or leaky windows or around doors Write it up in my proposals that I am not responsible or liable

Hey Old man Happy Birthday. Hope you and yours are doing well. Have a great day Jeff

OMG Man thats just fraud. No detergents needed, maybe the guy should remove his wifes nail polish with the turbo nozzle too. It must be safe they didnt say it wasnt

I would have to stick something in her mouth:lglolly::lgbugeyes, :banana:just so I didnt have to listen to her talk. I can't stand her babbling and accent:lgbonk: Lovin Sarah in 2012:bouncy::kiss::bullistic

You are a sexist Beth I love Sarah

Darn that wasnt a good way to end the year. Hope you heal well and have a great 2009

Merry Christmas ALL!!! Enjoy

Ya, cheers and ottomans Happy B Day Scott

I answered to soon to tell. No one knows what the heck is going to happen in 2009. Every business will be effected, every person in this country will be effected. We no one has ever seen anything like this. Will it hit us in 2009, 2010 or 2030 We all are going to have to pay back all the money that has gone out and will go out in the upcoming months and year. The deficit is crazy Now how will it effect the pressure washing industry and all of us. The weakest may be the first to fall, but on the other had they too may just hang on through this. Many of the weak will have no choice but to keep washing, they may have no other options, there may not be another job they can go work, they may struggle just to put food on the table but hey a couple house washes a week is better than no job or unemployment that has run out. So even SOME of those who are weak may just hang on and become better businessmen because they have to. Of course many wont and sell their equipment to pay a bill Like I said many will be effected and you know all of us will, but may not notice it. None of us will have any way to figure what new customers never called. We all may have gotten $1000, $5000, $25,000 worth of new calls that now we will not because of the economy. We may get $15,000 in new work but it could have been $25,000 if the economy was good You, me all of us will lose work. You will have a regular customers that loses their job or is making less, changed jobs, moved to find work, lose their house or are struggling and they will not call you or I. Its going to happen, it happens every year, just this year a suspect it will be worse, who knows how much worse. It could be and probably will be real bad for some and for others they will barely notice Now the established company will fair better most likely unless their local economy completly tanks out, a few factories, industries large employers just close down and wipe out a local economy or we could all be devistated if the worse case scenerio happens and its a world wide depression, lets not talk about that I figure that hopefully will never happen is the USA. The established companies like I said should fair OK. They have a good customer base, they have advertisng in place, they may add to their advertising, think up or work harder to keep the calls coming in, they will still get some referalls. Many even if they take a hit will be able to survive. I know myself god forbid if I lost say 50% of my work I could still survive as long as I didnt worry myself to death. I would still have enough income to take care of all my basics Now the good news some of us and probably many in the industry will do better for some of the reasons I mentioned above, the newer or established will get more work, may land the big one, something great may just keep falling in our laps, it happens, Can you count on it, can you plan on it? No but it could happen. The one fact is you are going to have to be smart and work harder at getting and keeping the work Let me tell you about me. I lost work in 2008 because of the economy HOA's looking for cheaper bids, HOA's that just have no money in dues coming in, natural turnover, new PMs that didnt know I cleaned the property the past few years, they hire their guy. BUT BUT BUT after I lost at least 45K+ in biz I am still doing 70K more than 2007. August & September were scary slow but then......came the end of September and up to now Work was slamming well into December I never had 6 guys working in December I did until last week. So I planned on having the rest of December up until Jan 5th off. well guess what I am getting many calls for bids, I got a lot in October & November too its kind of crazy, I am seeing trends I havent in the past. I don't get this many calls this time of year I am now, whats up with that. I figure some of it is the properties are just dirty and they want them clean, I figure some were worried and now they waited long enough and are just going to go a head and do the work. Expand your biz, go after the work, go after things you usually wouldnt. I joine an Apartment association. I have my 1st Apratment complex to do starting Jan 5th. Never did any, they always were dirty and a PITA to get so I gave up on them. I got a lead about this association from Dave Vicars so I knew the economy wasnt looking great so I figured I better try different things and this one membership is going to be paid off 20X's the membership on this one job I was going to have off from Dec17th to Jan 5th....not anymore, I put a bid in Tuesday for a job I got it Friday and start it right after Xmas, I got a front of a 6 story building, I got a small parking garage I got some gutter jobs, its really unreal for me. You know I think I will even get some other work and I will actually have to squeeze it in between the holidays. Plus I am already booking and filling up some more of Jan & Feb. Depending where I put a high rise I got, Jan or Feb, Ione of those normally slow monthss will be the best Jan or Feb I ever had and the #'s will be as good as some of my good months. right now it looks good for JL but I am a realist and a worrywort sometimes so I will keep looking for more work. I have secured some very good jobs. I have a lot of regular annual work and like I said its looking like I will continue to grow. I know something could always fall through, but I will follow what I have always done. WORK HARDER to get and keep the biz and YOU ALL should too Doom & Gloom is everywhere I worry about it. But you have to put it on the back burner, if you are new or established WORK HARDER, if that isnt working start looking for other things to do, take on a 2nd job, leave the industry and take a full time job on and WORK HARDER to survive. The company just getting by, WORK HARDER find ways to have the income coming in. The companies that are doing OK WORK HARDER. The companies that are doing real good WORK HARDER. From the day we all got into this biz and started to realize we can make it we had to WORK HARDER to grow our biz You had to do it when you worked for someone else when you were a kid and to a grown adult you had to WORK HARD to get where you are today so the only solution I see is do what you know you have to do to succeed in life and that is to WORK HARDER I hope we as a country learn from our mistakes, if we don't in another 10, 20 years this mess could look small to what could be next. But if you work hard you have a better than 50/50 chance to make it through anything. I hope we all make it through this and hope we all better ourselves and don't forget to help others that deserve it. I am planning on the economy being unstable for a couple years, hope not but am planning All I got to say is 2009 we'll see you soon. I hope you are the year we see it turn around. Good luck everyone we are all pulling for each other, its kind of nice to have the brotherhood we do on these BB's...Rock on!!!!