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I havent seen the flick in years and every once in a while I just say soilent green is PEOPLE funny great flick Who was the big star in that flick JL

Atlas Shrugged, does it have pictures or a place to color LOL Is this a riddle " Who is John Galt?" I got one - Knock Knock

You know I cant stand taxes, but in the same breathe, I dont mind them either. Have to pay for roads, airports, parks, war, pork barrel spending,........................... Taxes & goverment cant survive with them, cant survive without them. I rant and rave now, just ask my guys when they arent meeting my expectations. I I dont rant & rave about taxes, its more **** & moan Big & powerful ....... I'll settle for happy & comfortable. JL

I usually dont phone them, BIG phone company conspiracy's, plus GW might be listening in. If I use the phone to much they might see a pattern and next thing you know, black helicopters, binoculars etc I probably cant help you articulate your views, but you can always try www.senate.gov or www.house.gov . Im sure they would like to hear from you, I hear the calls, emails and town hall meetings are 98% for lowering the gas prices. Hey they might even put you on CNN, then who know you might have the look Hollywood is looking for, you could be the next Tom Cruise Have a good one JL

I need some help!!! I have some very big things happening, one is Im going to be the exclusive PW contractor for 2 very large PM companies and they want me to set up maintenance PWing of many properties and do on a contractual bases, with set times of year to do the work, I also will be getting a large concrete cleaning & rust stainremoval job for a high end neighborhood I will be cleaning all the concrete curbing & sidewalks through out this neighborhood and its alot. I will be cleaning concrete every 12-14 months, but I'll be applying rust remover to all the concrete very 2-3 months With all that said, I dont have any real Idea how to write up a maint. contract. mostly everything i do know is basically " go ahead & do it" and I do. Even the 18 banks I do 1/4ly & biannually I dont have a written contract. Does anyone have examples of maint. contract that I could see or maybe you could help me figure out how to do these contracts. If you could post different samples that would be great or email or call me 843-446-5931 jlecours@sc.rr.com Like I said its going to be big for my company and I want to be professional and have the proper contracts, wording, set up etc etc I really need some help on this:deal: . Thanks in advance

I can feel a rich person out usually really quick and I love to walk away from them as they're still talking. What i mean if I feel uncomfortable with their attitude I jack the price up quite a bit and when they say I got it done for this much$$ before or thats to much , I'll do a quick thank you for calling and walk away before they know whats going on. Ive probably only done it a dozen times but the look on their faces or when they say hold it, wait. I dont know its a good feeling when they realize I dont need them and quite often they need me more. I'm always polite but you get to know the type Just recently I had a lady call from one of the highest end neighborhoods and she was telling me she needed an estimate for roof, house, drive, gutters everything. Then she gave me her name & address and I was pretty sure she had called me well over a year ago and at that time she said my price was to much. Well I get there this time and it was the same lady but the house & everything was 10X dirtier. She doesnt remember me ( figures) well we are walking around the house and shes saying the roof isnt really that bad, (its a total mess one of the worst) and she says the house just has a little green, now this is a 1 1/2 million home its disgusting, they worst in this neighborhood, well she's selling it. The whole time this PITA is saying how it isnt that bad (what am I an Idiot) BIG LONG CIRCLE driveway its black, I go to get my wheel, she says maybe I could just get the real dirty parts ITS GREEN & BLACK everywhere, so I ask her what parts is she talking about. I was almost laughing other than the fact she was wasting my time. I come up with a price of $2400 she lets out a noise and I loved it. She said thats way to much that she got qoutes a couple years ago and it was half that. I said mam I was one of thosee who gave you a quote, no clue. She says something like I know I never got a quote that high, I told her Mam the property is 10 times worse then the last time I was there. She starts saying no it isnt , I dont hand her estimate nothing I said good buy & thank you. she actually stops me and says is that my best price I said no I could charge more and I smiled, she didnt like that and I walked away. I was just through that neighborhood last week house is still a mess a month & 1/2 later, Screw her. I love walking away from fools JL

You are always trying to start trouble Rod, why dont you just sit back and relax like me LOL But let me tell you all something ........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................ ......................................................

I love it when I get a good Arggggg out of you. You give up, never happen lol. See you at the next left/right discussion, although I dont think this one will be completely over any time soon the way gas prices are going Have a good one Mike.

Does anyone have any examples of a contract for regular PWing of say concrete parking garages or drivethrus, walks etc. Like for monthly 1/4ly, biannual cleaning. Something that spells out terms & condition of say a 1-2 year contract Im trying to come up with something that I can use and use as part of a sale presentation to properties Thanks for any help

One of my lady property managers just bought one of those Kings and I took a ride in it. Very sweet truck, very nice interior. As she said it was a present to herself and her dream truck. Congrats enjoy the ride JL

If its Iron Oxalic may very well work

The alternative energies is the only way go for our country. Unfortunitly I really no nothing about it except from what I hear on these BB's which I think is kind of strange I read a couple of newspapers, watch the news and I rarely hear to much about it, except during the Bush State of the union address and 2 days later I heard nothing Can someone educate me a little about the choices & viabilty of some of the best alternatives that could be put forth and researched and in use LARGE scale within the next few years Could someone also tell me why they arent in use now I get a lot of info from you folks help me out here. I'd like to be a little more informed and I'd like to ask my reps & tell them to get to work on this I heard or read something interesting recently and I thought it was a good idea for a couple reason The idea was get the US out of Iraq, say get the majority out within the next 1 - 2 years, whch will 1st of all get our military out of harms way and also save at least 100 billion a year. Get the prez & congress to take that money and more, because we need it for this. Have the Prez annouce that the US is going to put 200 Billion a year into developing the most viable alternitive energy for autos . State all this andplan to reduce the use of foriegn oil by whatever a 1/4 or 1/2 within the next 4-8 years Make this a National calling, Something really big we all, dem, rep, lib can rally around like WW II or getting a man to the moon in the 60's. Another thing this probaly would accomplish is make the oil countries & oil companies possibly reduce rates or get the oil companies more involved in the research ofthese alternitives If they think we are serious they may believe their going to loss it all someday. Id stand behind my politicians if this was to become a national calling for real We are America and I bet if we had to or really wanted to we could have gas almost obsolete with in 10 - 15 years. We give subsidies all the time, let the gov subsidize this, it would involve the larger corps too I dont want to pay $5 a gallon on a whim and I sure dont want some US hating country to have control of us. Could this be done and could we have alternative fuel within 10 -15 year

Sounds to me that you can say things on the PC pretty well !!! I regret calling Phil an AH, I should of said Doo Doo Head like my son says, or maybe nothing at all Note to self - tell son to stop saying doo doo head This is a great board I rarely get the chance to have a good conversation like these anywhere else but here. JL

I love the smell of Xylene in the morning lol Barry that looks really great, keep on keeping on, Congrats for a job well done Give it a couple years and you'll be the King of your area JL

This is why I say that politics & cooperations is quite often a big game and they make the rules of the game. I'm really not as extreme as some have said or as I may appear to some. Hell I'm actually far from extreme except to those who I would say is in the opposite extreme, but I know and most should know there are always being games played. Thats life & I understand it I also understand that that the east coast will be having shortages, due to the new requirements. They have to empty the storage tanks & clean them prior to adding the new additive ( I used to clean, sandblast & paint the inside oof some of these tanks in NY it can be done fairly quickly a 4-6 man crew we would do 10 huge tanks in about 30-35 days, plenty of companies to do the work too) and this is why they say the shortages will occur. But there is thousands of these tanks, what did all these smart people not think this out ahead of time, they could of been emptying these tanks for some time now and phasing the new additives in. What they wait to the last minute to do this work. Now with all the other problems with the oil countries we are going to have to deal with this problem too! Just to bad I hope prices dont go as high as you say, that will hurt the economy

Thats funny you should mention Robin Hood, I read my son books every night with him and I hadnt read anything about Robin Hood in a long time and he picked a book that spoke of Robin hood and the 1st thing I thought of was this thread. Funny

Never seen anything quite like that. Is it mud? its weird how its around the whole place

Has anybody noticed how many views this thread has gotten, either people like to see a good fight or just watch some people babble a lot of crap. It must be some pretty funny stuff

You know me when something goes on in my biz I like to bring it here and tell all of you folks. Its another story about call, write, fax and now about meeting the people who give us work, plus how persistance pays off! I told you some days ago about a PM from a PM company that I've been targeting for over 2 years. He said he had seen several of my fliers etc come across his desk. I talked to him a few times this past several days and we did a small pool area/clubhouse for him. Now this pool area was disgusting and this PM had just taken the property over from another PM company. While doing this pool area one of the board members and several residents came by and commented on how clean we were getting it and how it has looked like crap for a long time and they were thanking me for cleaning it up. Well I had known there other PM company because they had called me about a year ago to bid on the 8 buildings of this complex and even after repeated calls they never got back to me and the buildings a year later hadnt been cleaned. I like to promote and talk up the PM companies that hire me when ever I can. So as I was talking to that HOA board member I brought up the PM and he started telling me the PM co. is new for them and I told the man that this PM company has a real good reputation and Im sure they will be happy with them, I also took the opportunity to mention to the HOA member that I had bid these buildings a year ago and had no responce. The board member said they know they need cleaning but hadnt ever seen any proposals. I asked him if he's like me to submit a proposal to the PM company and he said yes. So now I had talked several time to this PM and I mentioned to him that Id be submitting a proposal and I asked him if he had anymore properties he would like me to look at and he did he gave me 3 other properties to look at, not huge properties but properties at an end of town that are in a nice high end area. While calling and talking to this PM. I liked talking with him he seemed a little different from most of the PM's I talk to, he was a little more course in conversations , you know he'd swear and bullshit with me over the phone and I kept calling him Sir or Mr. ----- and he kept telling me to call im by his 1st name. I told him I called him Sir etc out of habit and he said your in the south now and it isnt disrespectful to use 1st names and if I didnt start using his 1st name he'd start calling me a name I wouldnt like. Funny guy this PM is Well back to the meeting I had with him this Friday. Theres a few PM's Ive never personally met, I get calls from many and I call them but have never met. Well this year with the experience Ive gotten doing this PW work I have a little more confidence and Ive been trying to meet with every PM I know or who calls and Ive met many of them now. I figure I may not be mister smooth but Im sincere guy with a biz and a service that is needed by them and meeting them they may see that. So Friday I try to fax this PM the proposals he had me do, but the fax machine just kept ringing busy. I had told him I would get the proposal to him by the end of the week and I dont like not meeting a date I set, so I called him and told him the fax wasnt working and is there any way I could come to him and give him the proposals . I know he's a real busy guy, He said a couple times to me " I'm up to my ass in alligators" Busy funny guy. I told him I would meet him anywhere to get these proposals to him and I told him I'd like to meet him. He set a time for 2pm so I finished what I was doing on another complex and told my guys what to do next and I took off to go meet this guy. I shot home washed upped and put on a clean shirt and went to go meet him. Heck of a nice guy swears like a sailor , which is unusual compared to most other PM's & GM's Ive met. I gave him the proposals thanked him for having me look at his properties and started telling him what we offer. Then he thanked me. He told me the HHOA member I talked to was real impressed with the work we did at the pool and how I said that the PM company was a good one. I had submtted the proposal for the buildings of that property Tuesday along with a proposal for the sidewalks. Well the PM & that board had met Thursday and they now want me to do the job plus the concrete. Totally cool. The PM said I made his job easier and the property member and a few others liked the work and wanted us to do it without any other companies bidding, they excepted my bid!!!! I wondered if my price was high when I submitted it, because these building are going to be a PITA because its all rough stucco and rough painted wood siding with a ton of spider webs which are a PITA to get off rough siding. I had told this PM that and explained it in my proposal. I got the job and we do it in a little over a month COOL!! So at this meeting I asked him how he heard about me. He repeated that he had seen my fliers that I faxed and a letter I sent his boss, he's been working for this PM company since June 05. He said he hadnt needed me till recently and he was going to call me eventually. He said to me , that I just dont give up and he liked that. Then he said he was out with a freind who's another PM at a different company and they were talking and he was talking about some of the upcoming projects he needed done and the freind told him to call this company, that does real good work..... MY COMPANY !!!!! he told me he laughed because of all the times he had seen my fliers & cards, The freind ended up bein one of the 1st few PM's that used me a couple years ago and I still do several little things for him yearly. Well I was getting excited because of how well the conversation was going and I was still trying to tell him what I offer and the PM told me I dont have to sell him anymore. He said he was going to have me look at all his properties and with the other 3 props that I gave him proposal on he wanted me to go look at the last 3 props of his. COOL!!!!! He said its hard to find a good contractor and he thinks he found one in me. You know I love this ****. We talked a little longer and he gave me directions to his other properties and I thanked him for the opportunity to work & bid on his properties. Then I threw in if he could please tell other PM's in his company about me and he said "You know you just dont give up do you" I said NOPE, I love this biz and you guys are my money. We parted ways and I feel, I know, this is the start of a good relationship. Once again the moral of this story is "persistance" I never knew if all my faxes & letters were ever being read at this company, for over 2 years I sent them stuff and never heard anything from them. Well now I know they saww them "YAY" So to all you guys that arent established yet and want to grow your company do some of the things I do, Fax, write, call. I guess I'll have to add to that list "meet the customer" and sell sell sell Once again another long post, but I get so excited when a plan comes together I just have to share it with you all. I already told my wife & Mother about this and now I had to tell you all. Thanks for letting me share TGS Guess what I did before I started writing this post? YUP I just faxed several fliers and I wrote to one head of a large PM company for at least the 9th or 10th time, who knows he might call in a year or next week, I might never hear from him, but I might !!!!! So FAX, WRITE, CALL & SELL SELL SELLLLLLLL I've heard some say PM's dont give a crap & arent loyal, I say BULL, Do good work, deliver on time and be persistant, you'l get them to call time & time again. PM's are just like anyone else. If I find someone or a company that is good I stick with them. I think I'll get this PM to stick wit me I LOVE THIS BIZ !!! Well as he says "I'm up to my ass in alligators" got some proposl to do see YA JL

Eads, your in a state & region were pressure washing is a must. Whether you do it this year or next it can be a very profitable biz. With being in Florida and some very hard & creative work you can make excellent money. I started in 2000 paart time not even really thinking about this as a biz that I could support my self in 2003 is when I really started pushing myself & my biz. I'm doing pretty well have 2 fulltime guys and we just roll through the work. I dont ever want to work for someone again. I would if I had to but it would kill me I spend endless hours getting work, more hours doing the work , but you know what I really dont want for anything, I have all the basics in life and a few extras, always have money, for the basics and some extra, Im saving some for retirement and my families future, have a college fund going for my son, life insurance policies in case of death. I dont have boats and fancy cars but I have a very nice life, yes with ups & downs and yes sometimes money is tight for different reasons, but I always have people sending me money MY CUSTOMERS pay my bills not my boss, because I dont have a boss and its great. Dont rush into anything, get started making money then go fulltime, but do it with passion, dedication and thought. Your wife will come around when she see's you working hard and bringing home more money in one day than in one week working for someone else. But remember the more you make the more it cost to make it, so plan well and get out and pressure wash something JL

Here's a couple Mike. I'm sure they could be better but I figure something is better than nothing, Hey they work!!!! Your a smart guy and know how to word stuff well, so go write something and get it to them Good luck JL

Damn Mike your fast I thought I delete that post within a minute. I didnt like the analogy I used about your family so I deleted it. I guess you saw it before I deleted it. To me your comment and comments about many of the poor or less fortunate sound not very compassionate. Just my opinion Hey Mike hows the little one doing. We find out in about a week the *** of our baby. I'll tell you I'll do everything in my power to make sure they have everything they need and some of the extras. My son has really changed me. Now my wife thats losing her mind during this pregnancy, thats something else, she turns into the Exorcist wife about 2-3 times a week, I'm glad I'm a man and dont have to go through what women do Hope all is well and I know your will do great, Im just the kind of guy who wishes it for everyone. My boy is getting so tall and independent its wild. JL

......... Airplane was a good old funny flick, remember Blazing Saddles, watch it now and its stupid back then funny as heck No whats funny to me is how years ago primetime TV viewing was Beverly Hillbillies, I dream of Jeannie, Flipper etc. Wow how things have changed I think I liked it better when there was only 3-5 channels, cartoons were on every Saturday morning and you would watch Walt Disney every Sunday night at 7 with your family. Oh the good old days for those of you old enough to remember JL