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Posts posted by PressurePros
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Again there really is no average. We can dump 600 gallons of water on a deck that would be normal size for us. Get some type of buffer. My rule of thumb is is to have 10 gallons of backup water for every gallon a machine flows. (eg 4 gpm machine= 40 gallon buffer)
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No I think he was trying to address my post which was quoting Jamie P. There is a Jamie in this thread. This is Tom Baker the owner of Baker's Gray Away.
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I was under the impression this is Tom Baker?
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What about the white spots from the bleach?
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Oh Yeah, that is going to leave stains. They will probably show up as dark spots. Dyes and pigments don't mix with or mask each other.
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You should be able to sand it out Adrian.
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pool supply.
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How much pressure do you need? I have a 10 gpm pump on 13 horse Honda.
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So is everyone up for a Baker/TWP shootout versus Readyseal??? :)For selfish reasons I'd rather see a TWP/Bakers and Armstrong shootout. I think it would be more apples to apples.
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Jon,If I am not mistaken, RS changed their mildewcide formulation a few years back. I do not think there is any zinc in the product now.
If Baker's does not contain any mineral spirits, what are they using as a solvent?
I think he meant the RS, Rick.
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I look at that pic, Ken, and that is not a true semi imo - that's more of a transparent/toner like stain. On a sidenote - I always kind of dug the semi-opaqueness of Shane's photos. I am a big fan of A.C. semisolid for that reason. And it helps in a big way hide loads of blemishes - I have many 10+ year old neglected decks that will never truly look great with a transparent finish.Dan, go back and look at your decks. This is what they look like after a few weeks and the product settles in. This is A/C semi trans cedar. I think most contractors underapply stain. I was on this deck. The rails were sprayed to the point of dripping and it was all backbrushed and another coat was applied. I purposely went back to take this picture to see if the extra coat made a difference. This was tore up pressure treated wood that was left untreated for 6 years. You gotta be good at prepping ;)
PS: The semi solid would not be much deeper in tone. I'll get you a pic of a little landing we did with it. It looks just like this. It is rock solid protected, there is plenty of pigment in there.
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Adrian, I know Baker's is actually a TWP formula. I think they just add pigment and spirits to it. I never heard the brothers thing. Where did you hear that?
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You know its weird, Rick. Shane's pictures were either doctored, his camera was strange, the wood in Texas is different that the wood here, or those pictures were the 3rd or 4th maintenance treatment. I have never had the experience with Baker's being opaque. That pic above is two fairly heavy applications of Bakers Super Cedar dark mixed 50/50 with Super Cedar applied hours apart.
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I dunno, I've tried them all, Rick. RS looks dirty and oily to me (my work, not judging anyone else's). I also am tainted by a bad experience with ready seal. The closest I ever came to having an insurance claim was a deck with RS that bled onto teenage feet having a pool party. Footprints were transferred onto very expensive wool Berber carpet. A week later I was called by another customer that had ruined their shorts sitting on a RS stained bench weeks after it had been completed. Alright, I was over applying. Started putting on less and a couple of customers called me to say the stain washed off their deck. I went back and sure enough the deck looked like all the stain had been absorbed. The irony of it being called goof proof is that I found it to be the hardest stain to work with.
Its just not for me, Rick. I've talked to a ton of contractors. Many feel the same as I do. Many people that I respect including you and Jim swear by it. I guess we all have our choice of products and personal reasons why we like them.
Rick, without completely stealing the thread, how would you rate the opaqueness of the picture below? I ask because I may not have the right definition of an opaque product. I don't find the beauty of the wood to be obscured in any way.
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Do most people pressure wash to clean wood during maintenance coats with paraffin oil treatment? Only makes sense that the high pressure would remove layers of the wood, therefore decreasing the life span. Therefore is bleach the best form of cleaning before applying a new coat?Yes. The goal with any maintenance clean will be to let a cleaner do 99% of the work and a 200 psi rinse. You just recoat after that.
Also with paraffin treatments I'm starting to think that the grey that occurs after a couple of years is UV damage vs mildew growth. Due to the fact that the grey occurs simultaneously with loss of pigment. Is this possible?
Yes. Graying is caused by sunlight. Its kind of a defense mechanism for the wood. the gray actually does serve to protect the wood if there is no pigment from a sealer that can be sacrificed first.. if that makes sense.
You are on the right track.
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Bakers vs Ready SealTwo different types of products. Baker's blows away RS. Like Rick mentioned, it is not VOC compliant though.
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Baker's vs Armstrong. A Color match would be Super Cedar Gold and Cedar semi trans for the Armstrong.
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Mike, a few observations.
1) I am assuming we are talking about a regularly maintained fence. If a stain goes into failure, its not being maintained.
2) Your wood is both older growth and the better (though more toxic) PT lumber.
3) Your neighbor's fence may have been treated with a waterborne. Those products allow very rapid rot to occur on cedar.
Two identical fences built with today's younger growth lumber.. Its my opinion that one treated with a penetrating oil and maintained will always outlast the untreated one. 100% of the time in equal environments.
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Probably not that high. A 6"x6" PT post can last a long time, sealed or unsealed.
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I think that is a fair ratio. Its infinite if the fence is oiled and maintained.
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That's acrylic. You may need it but I would try without it first.
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There is nothing worse than hearing the phrase "oh that part is proprietary". Cha-ching$$
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Overapplication of stain is a sure fire way to get premature failure. Let it cure and be done with it until next season.
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Armstrong Clark Ranger Brown Two-Tone
in Wood Cleaning & Restoration - Decks, Fences, etc.
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Ranger Brown?