John T

I voted NO.. But in reality it's going to depend on what board your on. IMHO the best system on the net is on TGS. The infraction system gives people a warning to cool it. If they get some more infraction points they may lose the ability to do certain things. Finally if they get banned in most cases they have the ability to come back here so in essence they get some time to cool off. Of course some people who come back that were banned(people are very rarely banned here) they only take a couple of days to post something very nasty at an owner of a site(extremely rare and only happened one time that I heard of here)

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It's funny how some people won't admit they moderated other Powerwashing bb's and if you said they did they call you a liar..lol. I know me and Beth moderated multiple bb's at the same time and she is one of the rarest who actually administrated at least 3 very popular PW bulletin boards. She's the only one I know of that admin or co-admin both PW org's bb's. Mike Hughes is the only other person that I can think of off hand that was the admin on 3 different PW bb's. So who else moderated multiple PW bb's and was it worth it to help out your friends sites? To me most of the time it was.

What was that wood bulletin board that Greg R. Started up and and sold? I use to lurk there alot and learn everything wood. Were you Shane or Jim a mod there at one time?

Quitting smoking is one of the hardest things I ever done. I loved smoking. It was a perfect companion. I must have quit 30-40 times before I quit for good. I use to go to a bar or restaurant and within one drink I'd light up again. Never failed. Drinks & smokes go hand in hand. Finally when I quit for good I would never even have a drag because I was "afraid" I'd cave in again. As time went by it got easier. Eventually after a long while the thought never comes to me anymore about having a cigarette.. My friend "The Cigarette" is dead to me. Even if I got diagnosed with something terminal I am never going back because now I got my 2 Girls who look up to me for never smoking. There all that matters when it comes to this. That's one of the ways I quit. I just thought about them:)

Come to Vegas again and "Let it ride" :)

Lol.. Stop it Brian your killing us..lol The only rule I can think of is as long as you are not hurting anyone believe in anything you want :)

Same here Jake. Always have. Probably why us good people migrate towards each other :) As for Golf which I gave up when I ripped my forearm. I do recall hearing Jesus Christ's name mentioned alot.. Can't say it was done in good taste though.

My guys are heading out tomorrow to powerwash and yet my property still has aprox 6" of snow on it. Who else is getting a wacky yr of weather?

Congrats vape is better then nicotine burning up your lungs. I quit April 2001 a month before I turned 40. A few months we had 9/11 here and that was tough not to cave. There's very few things I'm afraid of and one of then is taking a drag of a cigarette. I haven't taken one. Not one. Nicotine is on the addiction level as bad as heroin and kills a ton more people. Good luck Guy and I mean that. What your doing is dealing with the psychological end of cigarettes where the hand movements etc are a huge part of the addiction. I actually did twice the price of packs back then where I smoked lettuce lace cigarettes and I failed. Went to a psychologist on a smoke quitting program and failed. Also went with my wife and friends to a hypnosis class and failed. I loved smoking my pack+ a day. The problem was I dealt with in law enforcement getting people buses to take then to the hospital because they were smoking thru their necks and they couldn't breath. The only way for me was to quit cold turkey and never go back.. All bull jazz aside I feel your pain cause I been there. Good luck and God bless... Is the best advice I could give out on the cig addiction. Look your kids in the eye and maybe that gets you to never go back.. Most people fail. Good luck.

My wife and her family all went to Catholic schools and my girls made their communion and soon my youngest will be making her conformation. I always believed in God but was pretty much agnostic but as I get older I'm leaning more towards finding answers which is what I always love doing on most everything.. So who's believes in God, is on the Fence with God or just doesn't believe any of it. If this is to personal to answer please don't. I'm not doing this to "Out" anyone with there beliefs. I'm searching.... For answers.

Well Chris--- like I tell my girls "Don't ever follow anything blindly". Search for answers and always make an educated decision so you don't get fooled when your on your own.

You just made me an offer I can't refuse:)You your good.

Good one Rob. I feel at times I make my own luck but other times I feel extremely lucky especially as far as my family is concerned.

From your fellow twitster because of your Post maybe the real brain behind this will stand up and say The line that got Peter Finch from the movie Network who received the academy award for this famous line which he died before he was able to accept his best actor award for.. I'm as mad as Hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore. - YouTube

I have one. It took me 2 yrs to realize this and I'll explain it later. Maybe I'll even post some wild stuff if I can get my scanner to work. So do you have an actual experience that says there is a God?

Please do tell some more Doug.

Very interesting Barry since you said this. The people who I know got this are yes indeed Mods on various boards. The guess is that its coming from someone inside who is a bit Disgrunted as being overlooked for something.

I have a few people inquiring when I was removed as a Mod on a certain bb. It's also the only place I ever been banned from. For those who ask because of there research I was removed on this lovely date of 9-10-11. So anything from that point forward where there saying I deleted Post there is inaccurate. I never deleted post here on TGS. I served honorably as a Super Mod here on TGS from it's inception and same goes with PWC. I also am heavily involved on working with many on PWRA bb which is the is part of the best Powerwashing Association in the country. Many of us support each other there because it's good business sense to do so. So I hope this clears the air on how my name might be being used as the one who has deleted many threads in the past year on a certain site.. I'm always about supporting fellow contractors thru and thru.

I appreciate the olive branch Charlie and likes or not doesn't make me sway from doing what's right. No matter what you think about me I find you to be a very good BOD even though I also don't believe in some of the things your doing. I do honor your efforts though. It's late but I'll tell you and the TGS crowed something and you should pass this on to your fellow BOD's. First off I got a very disturbing email today. One day you will understand a little more that when you try to do something good someone else takes is wrong and they make it there business to come gunning for ya. I'm not worried about it because there's nothing I did wrong. If it comes out it won't be from me and it has the potential to be a duzzy. That's #1. This has happened to me in the past but I always come out ok because there's nothing that's wrong. So I'm use to dealing with people who think they should take things further when they really have no grounds. #2 and this pertains to you and your board. You have some guys on your board and committees who seem to take pleasure on trying to bring others down. They do it by belittling them let's say over there partime status or if they belong to a different org, bb or whatever. Anything to try and knock them down. I have 2 people including your president who personally tried to cripple our Vegas Event. You know it because you saw it. We have some of your guys instead of keeping the BMP talk rational on other bb's they came in and started showing other people's business in a negative light that almost caused a lawsuit. If only you knew how some of us talked and said to leave this person alone because he can't help himself. We basically came to the defense of the person who was doing this and he's on your committee. You think there's not more.. There's much more such as someone on your side calling a past ***** members customers just to bad mouth them. What about once again a ***** member just recently going into some ones areas of employment just to bad mouth this person to EPA types. You know who I'm talking about.. Lastly you guys are forever bringing other people org's just to be disrespectful and try to cause alienation. So what do you Charlie Soden want from us? Do you want us to back off when many of us have been wronged and are still getting the headaches that you maybe experiencing now? Do you want us to say how great you guys are doing rah rah rah while some of your constituents are bleeping us continously? Look I am a huge supporter of this Industry. I support orgs, associations and most things in this industry. You would be hard pressed to find a bigger supporter then me. Of a matter of fact I was asked tonight to help out for an industry article and I already wrote it and sent it out. I support Industry training classes and Certifications of which I had 3 of them over the last few yrs. I sponsored things for the PWNA in the past, helped them with their Memphis Convention, donated startup money for the New ***** and even brought Carlos in to our original talks. I helped the ***** with there excellent convention in 09 and I sponsored some things there as well. The one thing I never asked for was "What's in it for me" I never asked for money and never took anything from anyone. I would be embarressed if an org president was telling everyone to hire me over my fellow members because I care about my fellow members and the orgs themselves. So I'm a giver. I'm also very fortunate because I worked hard. There's a ton of other good guys who may not share your beliefs but it doesn't mean your tigers in there should be posting attacks against them. I get what your saying and I would love to see this beating each other down stuff stop. I could close post here if I deem it necessary to stop these two way street beat downs because in the end your org. will lose. We gain nothing but your efforts will be lost. And for what? So your showing yourself to be smarter then alot of your comrades who are way to aggressive. I'm a bit aggressive myself but I've been fighting things for yrs in union activities and I know how to win most of the time. On this I can't win but you guys could lose. Think about that. You guys gain nothing trying to discredit or beat guys down. It's your org. and most people are freelancers your fighting against. Me I'll alway be OK. Belonging to 2 orgs and 1 association is good enough for me. I would really love to join your org. But your VP did so something to me that's very hard for me to get past... So he gets Zero respect from me as he does the same back. Best thing for him is he's not here. You could say he got a favor getting tossed. So work it out with your partners, get them to back off and stay focus on there work and maybe some of is will try a little bit harder in not being so hostile to you guys.. It's a two way street. It's best to be on the same side we don't keep hitting each other head on.. Good luck.

We pretty much know who it is.. Your a smart dude Charlie. It would be good to see you elevated into the ***** VP slot cause some of your comrades can learn alot from you already. If you were a ***** VP it's already obvious you have integrity and would stop your Pres. Doing what he does so other ***** members don't feel slighted who have schools themselves.

Finally we get the milder Guy.. Stick to post like that and you'll be much better off..lol So when are you finally going to endorse something yourself?? How about a Vegas Parking Garage Endorsement:) That should be allowable in your BOD position right?? Just don't let your Pres. find out cause he would be pissed and you may get fired..lololollol. At least you won't get a pay cut.

So what we have here now is 1- the ***** President is endorsing the ***** VP's school all over the net. There's other ***** members that own a school and one of them posted here tonight. Did anyone tell him yet what the ***** pres is doing to throw business away from him? 2-The ***** BOD is stating about shopping ***** BMP's to the EPA. Man I am so glad I am not a member of this non profit org. They can't even get there stories straight and yet what they accuse everyone under the sun of doing(and most people aren't) there goal is to do it themselves. You guys should stop talking org stuff on the net. Your crippling yourselves. You should also stop attacking others at every turn. Because the more you attack the more they dig and if your not on the up and up it just starts pouring out all over the place like it is here. Your dealing with a non profit so use your brains and read up on them ASAP. First thing you'll realize in there is something's your Pres. is doing is off the charts wrong. Don't think so? Watch how your BOD's start collapsing first. Look it up. Lawsuits will come within if you don't get your acts together. Within means from BODs and members and not us outsiders.. That's my last lesson on this. Look it up for yourselves.

What happens when you can't keep your stories straight. Don't worry Guy us hard working contractors don't need you to make accuses for us.. Hey how come your president isn't saying your contracting business is the best in the country? Is it because he can't make any money off of ya?

It's your fellow BOD's words not mine. His words are in red. You should also think back Charlie who was attacking who just recently especially about BMP's and EPA's and look what we have here. It's a two way street that will not end until some truths come out as to why some of these guys were attacking good hard working contractors and now there fellow BOD's are making a mockery of this Industry. As for Billy Booze I think he posted that honestly without his hand being held. He apparently didn't know how so many others were getting attacked by some of his fellow BOD's and I'm guessing now he's going to be attacked by his own side.. Maybe you guys should communicate a little better with each other so you can get your stories straight.