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Linda and my old Union just did a Charity baseball game where we raised about $25,000 for QSAC - Quality Services for the Autism Community which is for Children with Autism. She's been a Godsend to this industry. Besides the PWNA and her supporting each other she also supports What TGS stands for as well as her gifting many individuals from this bulletin board. She's also gifted many others from a few other bulletin boards which most of those people also come here. She also has a little surprise for the new start up association the PWRA. Linda loves groups that support each other and also support other groups. She is involved with many Charities and she loves helping other Charities such as the Children with Autism,The Michael J. Fox foundation and in November she will be with me at a Breast Cancer Charity that my brother in law is doing in Manhattan where such stars as Susan Sarandon and Robert DeNiro may appear. Susan right now is a very good possibility. This lady definitely has a "Ruthian Heart" and she hits one out of the park every time when it comes to Humanitarian causes and Charities. Here's Some pics of Linda throwing The first pitch at this Charity game and yours truly catching it. There's also a picture of her wearing a PWNA hat. She's already honored the Founding members of TGS and she now has a surprise for the PWRA. Enjoy the pictures and There's plenty of other real neat parts to this ongoing story with her and her Grandfather Babe Ruth being intertwined into this industy especially for groups that respect each other.

Keenan if you want Doug to see this your best bet is to go to another bb since he got himself banned here and on a few others.

Thanks Adrian. I do try..not always successful but on this one it's been magical and I hope I can bring it back to this Industry completely once I'm done. So far on that I have only one who rejects this...so I like the odds:)

I was told that my old Union and the Charity raised around $25,000 for these kids. Sometimes persistence pays off and people are better off for it. I'm going to another Charity event Nov. 9th for Breast Cancer In Manhattan and it looks like Susan Sarandon most likely is going and Robert DeNiro right now is a maybe. My brother inlaw is involved in that one and every day him and I text to see what else can be done there. Getting involved in things when they work is the best and in mine and my brother inlaw who both work our tails off money doesnt drive us when it goes to help others. He's special no doubt but as for me I just like to stay busy with things. I'm also glad guys like yourself no matter how much we disagree you were still able to get something from someone who is all about giving back. Look for her email when I post the pics. Just shows a little more what makes some people so special no matter who they are.

lol very good Chris. I relax reading your long post. Caught every bit of it while I was doing a few other things. Just the way it is with me. Do not know where you and I are misreading each other but dont sweat it. Dont waste your time reading my post if there longer then a sentence because you know me I never change. I Always tell it straight. Hey on a happier note because this is about the Children check out the pics of Linda throwing out the first ball and against all odds I caught it. This was for a charity for children with Autism. When I get the picture I'll post Linda wearing the PWNA hat for ya:wink:

Hey Chris most contractors do not belong to orgs. There's nothing wrong with that. There's also contractors that believe in orgs. Reason why The PWNA has been around for 20 yrs. There 250 strong who believe in them right now. You don't seem to be a fan of orgs and that's fair. The two guys you keep praising apparently believe in some type of org because they are the two top leaders of an org. There also vendors. One owns NCE and the other one owns a school, sells products and is looking to certify contractors because he is an NCE Certified instructor. At least that is what his signature says he is. Why is it that you say contractors this and contractors that but you overlook those two who are bigtime Vendors in there businesses as they are contractors? The PWNA has guys that do both as well. The founder of the PWNA was a contractor at one time as well. You have to be fair here in what your saying because the two guys your always referring to are Vendors as well. Another thing because I was apart of the *****'s past and there contractors for contractors was a neat saying but OT proved to not work. Contractors were also becoming Vendors and to think it's purely contracting alone in all this that counts-- doesn't work. Vendors and Contractors have to work together or the system fails as you saw what happened. You can try to pull the wool over peoples eyes that there are only contractors that should be listen to but when those contractors now become the certifiers and own schools or expos there now vendors. They need to intertwine in a fair way or the system fails and that's exactly what caused the last failure of the *****. Nobody trusted anyone in there after awhile and you can't kid yourself any longer. This industry is about the Contractors, Vendors, and everything in between. There is no just contractors alone---- doesnt work because those contractors alone will become Vendors also somewhere in the Mix so they can teach,sell or whatever to there own members. The whole thing is frustrating and alot of contractors just don't want to be bothered by it all....but... You look at other industries such as my fathers where he manufactured fume hoods for hospitals etc and fabricated laboratory furniture as well for them, they belonged to organizations. They went to shows as a vendor and many hospital reps,contractors etc went to the same Conventions. If your goal is to stay a one man operation or not to get involved with environmental type commercial work or just want to stay small and manageable then maybe orgs dong work for you. But in my case because I am a small profitable contractor and with no plans to get much larger orgs work for my business because I market them, Network thru them and sometimes get work thru them via the last two. But to think it's all about the contractors and we rule the world--it won't work and the ones you see dropping out the most are the contractors and that is a big part of the problem because they get toasted by it all. These are good guys I'm talking about who just get burnt out. Solution?? Level the playing field and bring them all in. Don't drive away the Vendors/distributors, don't drive away the Contractors/Vendors and sure as heck don't drive away the contractors!! Don't Alienate and stop the blame game. That's the solution and go from there. That's the way I see this all after dealing with alot of it. Nothing else works. This is why I don't worry about helping contractors or Vendors if I can and they also reciprocate it back. Those contractors and Vendors will never hurt my business because there professional like I am... But there are a certain type of contractor that actually hurts my business and I deal with them all the time. It's the ones who know nothing, don't care to know much and don't play by the rules. They are uninsured, unlicensed if there is a lic. Requirement, and really unqualified because they'll charge bottom price because they just don't know and they will LOWBALL the heck out of jobs and they get a few then they disappear because they failed. And that cycle at a greater rate is coming around more and more every year and those guys are the only ones I'm concerned about just a little because I may lose a potential job because of them. Long post but that's the way I see it.

2 weeks ago Linda thru out the first ball at Fenway Park for the Boston Redsox. Linda & Claudia First Pitch at Fenway 2012 on Vimeo She finally after all these years got Boston to raise Ruth's banner there. The other girl was Ted Williams daughter and the picture there holding are when Babe Ruth and Ted Williams met. Jim Rice is one of the guys out there with them. The Official Family Site of George Herman "Babe" Ruth Scroll down her webpage and you can see Babe Ruth's banner. Go further down and I'm still hanging around there. Later today is Showtime. I'm playing a Charity Softball game for kids with Autism QSAC - Quality Services for the Autism Community with my old job at Ducks Stadium. After our game the big game starts. For the Softball game Linda is bringing her family and she is throwing out the first ball to yours truly. The guys on my old Job have raised $25,000 already for this. If all goes well Linda is going to take some pics with a PWNA hat as well. The PWNA donated to the last charity I was at. Whatever happens here I know one thing which is I have one speed. So I'm going to swing for the fences and go for it all or strike out trying. With my vision the betting odds are I'm going to swing and miss and fall down and eventually strike out..lol. But I love trying to complete something when the odds are against me.. Either way it's another give back and thru all of these I keep the Powerwashing connected thru it one way or another thru the PWNA as I promised I would so it goes back to getting this industry more known. Here goes nothing:)

The day is done. We beat the QSAC charity group 9-4. Linda thru out the first ball and I caught it with the wrong glove they gave me for lefties(leave it to my old job to do that lol) but as promised Linda threw it right into my glove. The day was surreal. The charity groups gave her Grand Niece and Nephew the Duck baseball team jerseys. I miss my old crew. It was bittersweet especially when we went our separate ways after the game. Took me 3 times to retire and leave these guys behind. We raised close to $30,000 for this cause. One of the guys on the bench took my camera and took alot of pictures but none of the money shots. So I'm having a few guys see if they can get me those money shots. The News team were flashing away so hopefully I can get some pics to post on the net. I also kept the Powerwashing industry in here. I'll release what that was in a couple of days. All in all it was a special day. A good day for Linda, for the QSAC Charity, the guys playing the game and this industry itself. This is like a wedding. It starts, there is so much going on and it suddenly ends.. You had a great time but the time was gone before you knew it. I'm happy and honored to get to do this stuff because of the positive benefits to the ones who need it. And the ones who are involved or just show up to support these things is special. If you never thought about it. Go to one Charity event and get involved. You will feel the goodness of it all and what you do and the nice people thanking you and the kids looking at you in total appreciation. It's so very special. Do this with your org. Get involved and watch how others will thank you for doing so because it helps them to help you and many others. Like a big family that supports each other. Like a smooth running machine. Everyone benefits in one way or another. These are memories that you can take with you.

Didn't think of that about the cup. If I'm talking with a high pitch voice-- well you know the rest of the story:biggrin: Will do on the pics.

Later today its time. Never been this much in the spotlight... I do know one thing, I am going to swing for the fences.:biggrin:

You know Guy-- I am considering that very thing about running for a BOD slot again for the PWNA and the second time around I think I can help make a difference. This week where I live I am playing in a charity softball game before the Long Island Ducks play there game. Linda is coming with her family. My old job ask me to play or at least hang around in the Dugout. Where playing against a charity that raises Money for autistic kids QSAC - Quality Services for the Autism Community we already raised $20,000 for these kids. Because of all this suddenly Linda who just threw out the first ball at Fenway 2 weeks ago with Ted Williams family she finally after all these years got the Redsox to raise her Grandfathers banner http://www.thetruebaberuth.com/ has said she would like to attend this game. Its grown now to where the stadium is honored for her to throw out the first pitch and yours truly was selected to catch it. This is going to be interesting because the guys surprised me with a heck of a uniform paid for by a donor with my name and Ruth's #3 on the back. Linda wants to be here because she loves anything to do with Children. Besides having a wrecked knee,I wear progressive glasses and I haven't played softball pretty much since I tore both Achilles Tendons on one stupid play when I came back from my honeymoon 19 yrs ago I am determined to squat down and take her pitch and also take one at bat and just swing away(hopefully I don't tear a back muscle because I don't know how to do anything at half speed). The reason I'm telling you this and boring you to tears is because I keep my promises. I am far from righteous but my integrity level has always been high. I am not in the business of lying like someone has been preaching to the masses to others on the net. And your right. The thought does cross my mind at times that maybe a national org. Is not in our best interest. I get like that when I get jaded...but is there any glimmer of hope left to make it worthwhile? It's a mountain of a job to try and see if there is truly a way to do it... And with that I may try again because I know where my integrity is. I also have made amends with the people I over did it with where I may have hurt them because of trying to do right the fallout to them wasn't fair. I am like an open book. Doors always open for anyone,anywhere,anytime. And thru all this Guy like I said, I keep my promises, your efforts have not been forgotten because I never stopped giving a dam and soon enough you will see why because I am almost done with your story. The industry's story and the ones who know this including ones who represent your efforts-- all of them have been extremely supportive even through my unorthodox ways of getting things done. These are very well respected individuals who have there own fan base. Some very large, some very small and tight...but all of them are strengths to you me and the industry. When you find out about it all because timing is critical here-- the one thing these guys will tell you is I am not a liar, I don't look to ever be one who looks to benefit himself by hurting others and also they become before me. You'll probably meet very few people who has put together multiple teams and committees within where I wanted others to chair no matter how much work I do. It's the belief I have with the strength in numbers. There are better people then me for many things but as far as working hard for the masses or the one.. You'll have to look very hard to find someone who can stay locked in all the way until the task is accomplish and that I always took great pride in myself for being able to do that even though at times it came at probably to great of a cost to some others and myself and when that happens I own up to it as some of you saw when that ***** mess after there excellent Convention was completed. So will see. First I need to catch Linda's pitch this Tuesday night and from what I heard-- the odds are 5-1 I catch it in the face and break my glasses and then can't get up with my bum knee. If that was to happen I'll just dust it off and savior the memories:)

Good information Scott. Its nice to still be able to learn a few things on these bulletin boards after all the years some of us have been on here. As for what you said about Revenue streams and especially in my last occupation, the majority of this stuff is driven by that and as the times continuously get harder there going to look to enforce some more of the laws that are written on the books and if there not written on there yet--they will be. Its an uphill battle and good luck to the ones who want to try and make a difference. You just have to hope they keep there integrity levels way up there and they come out of one of these meetings or whatever they call them and they report back to the rest of us who have an interest in this, an honest assessment of what went on. If they don't the truth always has a way of coming out--Some people may not believe in that but everything I ever dealt with..it always does.

If there something that you want changed you need support. It could be a petition of 50,000 names but that still may not help because you will need bank and actual members that belong to whatever it is your trying to do. If it was easy to change things than any guy with a fat wallet could get rules and regs changed to there liking. Basically what your talking about is "Lobbying". The way our system works is thru lobbying. People can hated it all they want but it's not going to change because your talking about legislation. You might get some credibility by going around the country meeting with some officials and that could give some weight to Certification courses because I have a feeling this is where this discussion is heading towards. Certification courses work if a person markets them. They also work because the contractor learns from them.... But to go further then that your most likely talking Lobbying due to the dealings your going to have with legislatures. Since there is no dominant Org. In this Industry it would be great for other org's to work with the PWNA in trying to get noticed where there benefiting the Contractors along with the Environment. The PWNA has a foot in some of these doors because of Roberts Efforts. There are other guys trying to help him on there own dimes and you have to admire people who do that.... But...once again they need all the support they can get. It's good to stay friendly with these other org's because between the bunch of ya maybe someone will listen enough to all of them if they can ever be on the same page. A good convention one day would be good to have where there are multiple orgs there. Maybe a better idea is to have these orgs have individuals in each one that belong to there own "Think Tank committee's" and make it where they meet with these other org "Think Tanks" on each orgs dimes for the purpose of education with the potential to be able to go in together where 1 guy with an outline supported by all of them be the one who now sits in with "the powers to be" and then because there is no "NRA" or "FOP"s type groups within this industry but now you have something unique. You have representation in there with multiple org's backing this. Besides the above-Everything else is fluff if your talking about changing or implementing something that's recognized by the proper authorities and to say different.. There must be acceptable proof instead of mouth pieces just saying they did this...they did that..they helped this...they helped that.. Which is nothing but "Fluff" in the real world. If your keeping it real..then always the best of luck.

You bring up some good points in here Ron but just having some experienced educators that are contractors and also having scientific data you would still need a powerful group such as an org. to support those educators who in turn can help there contractors. This Gov't will not listen to a couple of people. They'll listen to these couple of people if they have a strong group behind them and that means members and the org bank has to get much larger. Your almost talking lobbying...almost. The pipe dreams in this industry so far has been just that.. Wishful thinking. I give Robert a ton of credit because he has support and he did and still does alot. He...like you... Still need that large group base. This is where a good non profit org. can have a shot. Education is a key in there. You want to be able to send those educators where they need to go, the people they need to meat and the dollar signs to support them and the large member base that supports them also. And they also have to be right thru like you said by having scientific proof that is supported. I admire these efforts. The other garbage that comes in here for all the wrong reasons helps no one. When you post like this and get people to think cause none of us know it all it's gives some hope. Keeping this professional because it's a very touchy subject benefits the ones who mostly only go to the bulletin boards and there are alot of those type contractors out there who still with that alone have more then we did way back when. On top of that it benefits potential orgs if they can put it all together and that will benefit a ton of contractors whether ther org. Members or not. It's just the way it is and the lone soldier these days gets eaten alive out there in the business world which is why I support the "Group" mentality here like I always did on the outside.

I guess my question here would be if someone was invited and they care to know about this info and they consider themselves as leaders in this industry then why not go so the can relay the info to the ones who have a reason to know this? The PWNA got an invite to this probably cause there known in some of these circles but that aside how does one get an invite to these things Scott?

Will do Chris and you should do the same praising your leaders on any PWNA thread in there section just for the sake of doing it. You have questions about the PWNA ask them. You want to praise your leaders in a group you wont join then do it on there 2 sites. Your bringing them purposely into this area and its obvious why the other guy floats in here. for your information I did call him in the past but he doesnt take calls from me. He wants to be taken seriously then he should use his brain and not try to flusey people by labeling others as liars like he did with me. He'll never win that game because it will come back to him everytime x 10. You can count on that because lying will bite back. It always does.

That last line is calling a spade a spade and forget the spell checks since I'm on my droid in AC where its hard enough to type between dance breaks with my girl. The other thing here is I also dont appreciate the lies he says about TGS who I still hold dear to my heart because I was with Beth and Rod here from the beginning so its just natural for me to be protective towards this site. If he hates TGS so much what the heck is he doing here? Dumb question.. Hes trying to sell something which is himself and since he brands me as a liar... And I'm one of thr people caught him lying all over thr place... He should take his sales hat pitch and disappear from the pros he see right thru his garbage. And newbies should be forwarned about him. He starts with me...he gets hit back so he backs ocf with his lies then I'll forget about him like we all should.

With so much time to kill... I never left:) You'll like next weeks pics. Linda who thru out the first ball for the Redsox 2 weeks ago and also got them to finally raise Babe Ruths Banner there is going to be throwing the first ball next Tuesday. This time she will out there with some family and shes doing this at Duck Stadium on Long Island. Its for a charity softball gsme with my old job vs a Charity for Autistic Children where we raised over $20,000 already. The sweet part about this is besides helping to raise money for these kids is that my job demanded I come out of my 20yr softball retirement to catch "The first ball" and if all goes well I'm going to wear a PWNA hat to keep it in this industry as well for you guys. The guys also got me Babe Ruths number on my Jersey which was another surprise. I miss these guys. Those Chris are all truths. The other reason I'm back posting in these political type threads here is because theres a poster right in this thread who is typing lies about me on the net and is also telling lies about me and others wo actually do things for this industry. I wont mention his name since he goes around posting "There was a TGS poster who got away with lies about him". Nope I'm not in the business of lying and I sure wouldnt go around selling chemicals to my peers here and also say you can drink them as well. This guy everytime he lies about me and this industry since he made it clear on a different bb hes going to call out the people he believes are spreading stories about him that may or maynot be affecting how he has more people coming From Dallas then anyone for his Schools..... Well Chris... His business whichever hat he wears today....its like someone who post here said ona different bb "He doesnt care about who they are because there business cant affect his but people should be aware of there post" something along those lines.... So thats what I'm doing. Calling a spaxe a spade.

Don't know if I should say sorry to hear that because I thought you had a membership but I hear ya.. Not a member anymore either.

A quick post for you woodies out there who stain houses. I'm heading to NJ tomorrow morning to discuss with some wood experts some issues concerning stains. I'll post a couple of pics of two houses we did the last 2 weeks. The first set of pics is with the Cabots Natural stain which is like a hybrid where you can clean up with soap and water the first 20 minutes and then you must use a thinner after that. The Cabots goes on Pink and then it dries into a natural color... What a disapointment. Cabots is having more problems with there stains since these VOC's have been put into place and also since they were bought out by Valspar. Every year I would buy a minimum of a 100 gallons of Cabots natural at my local Paint store convention. It was always by invite and you would get 2 free drinks and a buffet dinner and also a nice discount on the products they sold such as Cabots and Benjamin Moore which I use to stock pile them as well until they changed. This was every spring for 1 day. The second set of Pics are of Wolmans Natural. I'm not happy with them either. I always liked the Cabots stains the best right ahead of Benjamin Moore stains but the last bunch of years they both changed for the worse. My local paint store sells these products and my customers liked the name recognition of them. There are some stains I never used but heard alot of good things about them. For me I always stuck with what works for me so I dont change... but now the writing is on the wall here. The good stains I always heard about are Armstrong Clarke, Ready Seal, and a few others. In a few hours I am going to meet with some other contractors to talk about this stuff and to see what else is out there. One of the Contractors that should be there from this bb is Rick Petry who is a wood expert. My goal is to find another stain and to talk to my local paint store that has about 40 other stores all owned by the same family. I want to see if there is something out there that possibly my paint store can look into so I can get easy access to what I use. They have over a 1000 contractors they sell to and I'm one of them. I don't like to order stains because alot of times I send my customers to my paint store to pick out the stains they like and the recognizable ones were the Cabots and the Benjamin Moore Stains but there behind in keeping up with the other stains who are compliant to the VOC's. So who Knows but tomorrow should be interesting. Quick note on these house shots..,my camera is old and shot so the pics look hazy.. and the stains don't look to good anyway.

Jim pm me on what you would recommend for me to use living on Long Island where Humidity is a factor here. Thanks.

Hey Carlos your a ***** member right? Take it up with your new VP who knew about this meeting and elected not to go or tell his membership about it. I'm not surprised by this but you seem like you are. I would suggest you call him but then again he wouldnt take the one call that was important which I needed to talk to him about when I was a ***** member. So dont hold your breath waiting for a response via phone.

Take the guess work out and call them to see if you can attend. Do like Jim Ganble did and get involve by at least calling them. Do not depend on the bulletin boards alone to guide you. If you believe everything you read Chris on thd net your business would go cerplunk.

Hey Sean I'm just doing that now with some skids I put together on my flatbed. The Generator I'm adding is rated at 5000 watts which takes about 9-10 HP to run it. I basically need it for 2 burners which between the two when they kick on they may take up to 3600 watts. I have a Kohler 34 HP engine thats running a TSF 2021 General pump rated at 8.5GPM @3600psi. The odds of the Burners kicking on the same time are slim but if that happens they will take about 7hp away from this engine which may drop the rating of the pump a hair when it happens. I'm having the other burner built and its coming next week and will be put behind this engine. In your case you need about 4-5 extra HP to run you Generator so you have to see if the engine is large enough on your Powerwasher to handle the generator. If it is then you need a Pully for the Generator the same size as the one on the engine so the Generator shaft turns at the same RPM's as the engine which is about 3600rpms. Without seeing pictures I would guess that your engine has a 2 belt pully on it for the pump. If you have room on your engine shaft you can add another pulley on it. If not your going to have to order a 3 groove(Belt) pulley for the engine. The Generator shaft can spin either direction. You have to work out the numbers and you need the HP and also the room for the generator. I'm with you that if you can add the generator why run another engine. But if you dont have the HP then a small generator with an engine me be your best bet.

Shane hit me up with some good info on a PM not far after when I put this thread up. He is committed for sure. He is no doubt an expert in Wood Restoration who puts up some of the nicest pictures on the web. The one thing that's holding me up about BGA is they can't ship it to Cali because of the VOC's. That tells me it's a good stain...but.. So were the ones I used for years and the VOC's screwed them all up..so now they bite. I can see me using BGA for a couple of years and then boom just like the other stains I used they suddenly can't ship here or there forced to change there formula like the others because of the VOC's. NY sucks almost as bad as Cali when it comes to rules and regs. How does that saying go " Fool me once shame on you fool. Fool me twice shame on me" I'm now caught up in a position that I have to change my stain choices... Shame on them for doing this. If I get caught up again where I have to change again?? Who's the fool now?? Me... I have alot to look into here. I very well may try all the above stains and just hope for the best.. Does anyone remember Woodtux? I sure wouldn't want to go thru that where that one got changed up.