Degraffreed

Barry, Why so secretive? NorthCentral?. I have family in Elkhart, In east of South Bend. Maybe relocating back to Indy?

Beth, Did you guys change the BB format a few weeks ago?. I switched my ISP and the BB looks totally different from the past. I has a Bluish look to it and now I have to hit the new post button.

Steve, are U looking to still sub out. I am on vacation from my first job until next Wednesday, would be intrested in helping out. I will supply my own chems. 678-480-0123. If your still looking.

Barry,, What part of Indiana are you located in?

Beth, any particular reason you decided not to use it? I know you swear by Wood Tux. Just curious to the reason you do not add to your arsenal.

Why, is there no mention of Wooddefender stain?. I find the stain to be goof proof and very easy to apply. Not to mention the cost and the Best Custmer service out there... next to Bob at pressure tex. Brent and Todd are really just a phone call away. If not available I have even called their personal cell phones.... Great guys. Celeste... am I correct in saying you use WD regularly?

Lou, I do not know the market there but WOW $500-600 dollars. I am moving there tomorrow. Here in Ga I would bid somewhere $ 250-375 top. I just do not think homeownere will pay that price. I could be wrong, but if you if you want the job I would be at 300.00 tops. 3 hours is more than enough time to clean this home. 3hours = 100.00 per hour. Good money. Here is what I would put in a five gallon bucket. 2 gal SH, 1 gal of powerhouse or citraclean, 2 gal of H20. Xjet it and rinse after about a 3 min dwell time. Good luck.

Mike, Was that natural cedar a Ready Seal stain? Keep the pictures coming Is that a one coat or two coat appliacation results?

Mike, Great job. Was that a pt treated pine deck? I was like the color of that RS. It looks different than the brochure. This is why I love this board you can see the results of the various stains and have an idea what the final project is going to look like. Thanks

My mother has always said" When one doors shut.. another will open and it that door do not open as fast as you like....Go through the Dam Window!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why can I not get onto the wood chat this evening?

Also Beth, In the earlier post in reference to "types of stains used" You mentioned CAbots brand and you also stated that you like the problems solver primer.Do you use the primer for prep work before applying thier solid stains? I saw a video in the local ACE store and it was demonstrating the Cabots line of products. Just curious to why you would have to use a primer?

Beth, Why ATO and not WTWWHG?

Phil, YOU ARE THE MAN .....DOG.....:>0)

Glock, sorry to here about the job loss. But you are a contract cleaner... go clean something a make that money!!!!!!!!!!!. Keep the faith, god will not place more on you than you can handle. I truly live by that word. Do not sweat the small stuff. After the shock, hurt, betrayal, and the self pity wears off you wil be okay. Do not let them take you DIGNITY.

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So, if I understand correctly, Ready Seal take anywhere from 2-3 coats for PT pine, that is about 3 years old and never had any sealer on it. I was leaning more toward the RS because of the cost factor of WTW. It would be safe to say that this deck(that I post pics of a few days ago)will absorb my first coat and leave the deck looking like Matts lower portion. As if it needs more stain?. Is this a good assumption to double the stain needed for about 1200 sf? I hate to order 8 gallon then nee 15-16 gallons. I do believe that the pt pine is going to be "thristy"

Is there a method to determine when a board has soaked up as much stain as possible? I know this seems like a dumb question but this is how I learn from veterans. As a new woodie, I am concerned that I may not be applying enough stain on the decking as I should. I want to become as good as the vets here so I am not afraid to put this out there. I learn something new on each deck that I have completed. Beth, you mentioned that Matt should be getting about 75 to 100 sqft to a gallon. Is that true or a typo?. I see the concept though. It appears that the lower boards did not get a good coat of sealer therefore the results are different from the upper portion of the picture. Please chime in here when possible, I have another deck job coming up this weekend and I want to learn as much as possible so that the next pic I post can show the results like Shane, Reed or Beth and Rod. ;0)

I am just asking a question here, no way am I a wood expert Yet, but it appears that the lower half of the boards DID NOT get enough stain on them. Am I correct here? Using ready seal, would it have a drastic effect on the final outcome,if Matt would go back over and apply a second application on the lighter color decking. I read some where on previous wood post, that if you apply a second coat of sealer and the previous coat has dried, it will leave the deck with 'SEMI GLOSS OR SHINEY LOOK". Would this be true? Or do you have to apply the the second coat on the first while it is still wet?.

Question for deck vets. I have done about four deck this season as an add on to my pw services. They have all been low patio decks. No problem at all. Now I get a call from my previous customer that I powerwashed her home and flagstone, to give here and estimate on her deck. Pictures are below. Here are the measurements and I measured everything just to be safe. Top deck 21X10=210 sf Under deck 21X10=210 sf Top deck rails 46X4"=? Steps.. 1 Step = 13"X36" ? 13 step total. Hand Railing coming down from top deck area. 20'X4"=? 80.. 2x2= Spindels 3x24 Runners Both Sides Band boards .. Forgot to measure. How do you vets come up with the total sqfootage for a deck like this. I Qouted $985.00 for the job, due to past experience on previous deck staining. Cleaning, neutralizing, sanding and staining. I do not know if I overbidded this job, because I never had to take in consideration of all the measurements on this bid as I did on the low level patio decks I have previously did. I am thinking 10 gallons of Wood tux wet should do the job. Or What would be the easiest way to get a total measurement of this deck if say Shane or Beth was measuring it? Could one of you vets give me the total sqft of the deck job. I want to see if I was close in sqft before I post What I believe the sqft is. This is my first attempt at bidding on a deck with some many variable. A quick response is always appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Reed, My e-mail addresse is Degraffreeds@bellsouth.net. Please send asap. looking to order the Wood tux Wet or the Ready Seal Natural Cedar. Have not decided yet. More reponses greatly appreciated.

Thanks, to all that posted. I just came out of the rain and I am glancing over the post responses and I will have to go back and reread to get an understanding from the reponses. Reed, I would like that estimate calculation thingy you mentioned. I came up with about 1100sq feet for this bid. I want to understand HOW, I came up with it. I believe I bid the cost ok. I looked at about 6 hours to complete. Looking to go with Wood Tux WHG. What do you think beth?. The deck is in need of a good cleaning and I believe that the honey gold will look good. What color would you wood vets suggest in Ready Seal. I just recieved my Ready Seal samples for Sunbrite. Thanks Tracey and Pete. Will be staining my test deck strips soon. I was looking at the light Brown or the dark brown. Customer want to stay away from the redish tint look. Beth Chime in here when you can. Sorry I missed the Round table last weekend. Had the unfortunate loss of a close freind and then Monday, a family member was murdered in Indianapolis, needless to say I have had a bad week.

Ben,there is a new formula called Wood tux wet. This is supposed to let you stain even if the wood is wet. Still waiting on my samples from Russ to test product.Call Russell Cissell. Look up Russell on the search button and you can call him personally.

Beth, since you and Rod have so much expertise. I am thinking of trying wood tex or ready seal on my next customer deck. My question to you is.... It is a 2 year old PT pine and the last Pt I did had sort of a redish orange tint to it not much though but I could tell it... I do not want to put that stain on pt anymore.( it was wooddefender bright cedar, for those who are curious), the homeowner love the color and the results. I want to try Wood Tux or Ready Seal (since they are about 45 min from me and the shipping cost I could save), What would you suggest in as a good color for PT deck that have that yellowish Greenish tint in the wood? I have spent hours admiring your photos and the warm honey gold seems to look great on PT. Any Suggestions.

Beth, when you say "Maintenace Coat", Are you spraying the deck again with Western Cedar, just as if it was the first coat going on the deck? Also do you charge the customer again for the stain? If you can answer that here.