Guy B

This is a quote from Chris Chappel in another thread. This is what really scares & pisses me off the most. This is what can and will happen when Municipalities start calling around to other Municipalities for further information on how to handle this situation. Leaches & Vultures descend on the Contractor to suck the profit from their Business and in most cases put them out of Business. There are no provisions to help protect the PW Contractor, only ways of sucking every bit of money from his pocket. Are the people and Organizations that have shopped these BMP's around to blame??? If they do nothing to protect the Contractor from this beyond the BMP I say....Yes You Are!!! You knew this was going to happen because it already happened in your area. You will be responsible for every Contractor that is put out of Business Where are the BMP's for the parking decks, dirty building & sidewalks, restaurants, etc. that says they Must have they're property cleaned For The Health & Safety Of The Public & The Children! Don't you care about that? Yea I played the Kid Card. Here's the quote. "I agree with a lot of you out there, there is a lot of mis-information and lies out there and that was a huge part of the problem there in Houston. They wanted you to get registered with the city, haul hazardous waste (without informing you that you need to have a CDL, D.O.T. approved Tank and vehicle to haul the waste, Placards to show what is being hauled, the necessary information and insurance, get registered with the D.O.T. for hauling hazardous waste, and a lot more!), they wanted you to haul the wash water across town and fill out manifests and pay for each manifest for each job no later than 4 days from the time the job is completed and pay for the wash water to be disposed of (never found out from the city what the rate per load or gallon cost to be disposed of), pay a monthly or yearly fee to be registered with the city (yearly fee was over $450 per year) and if you are hauling wash water that vehicle had to be registered also. There is more to this but you can get an idea of the hoops they wanted you to jump through just to work there." Again I say...I don't have a problem with the BMP, I have a problem with all the Crap that will come with it.

First quote is true Barry. Opinions of Members in a Member supported Org are very important, but if you're talking about "Any And All Opinions" from people that don't have a dog in the fight and or not Members, then I would have to say "No Not Really". No one is ignoring anything Barry, especially me. There has been quite the debate about this at the ***** forum. You see there is more at play here than you seem to think you know Barry. Loss of Institutional Control is not what this is about at all, but I don't expect you to understand or see that from your vantage point.

I'm sure for those who do not know the history, dynamics, players, facts. etc. of this can easily "arm chair quarterback" their opinion. Which is fine, it's your uneducated opinion, have at it. Barry, your above quote is really what this is all about. Good to see you. --- - Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Thanks for clearing that up.

Again, I have no problem with the "Meat" of the BMP's, but I do have a problem with local Regulators going "Above & Beyond", where does this end? When will it be a crime to have wash water hit the ground when washing houses or apartments? When will it be deemed illegal to sump into a "Landscaped Area"? If I have blocked a drain but by chance 10 or 20 gals seeps by, am I put in jail? Is it a $10,000 or $20,000 fine? Where will it end? It is my understanding that developers (In Houston) were suppose to have complied with Regulations as to regards to "Interceptors" being installed to stop off property discharge. I heard no mention of interceptors in any of the videos. Are all parking decks in Houston equipped with these now? If not are the owners of these parking decks violating the law by not being in compliance? At any time was the subject of "Interceptors" brought up in the Houston meetings? Why do I care about what is happening in Houston? Because it's happening in my area. This spring we were washing apartments in a small town near my main service area. I noticed a City truck cruising by a couple of times when he decided to stop. He introduced himself as a "Environmental Enforcement Tech". He explained to me that "Someone" had called and said I was discharging in the storm drain, I told him nothing could be further from the truth and to check for his self. He did and found I was Compliant. He then bragged that he had caught a couple of washers cleaning fast food joints in town, and Popped them $1000.00 a piece, then went on to explain their Towns BMP's, I explained to him that I was not aware that their Town had any Bmp's but that I was pretty sure I could recite them back to him, and was fully aware of what they were and what they meant....In a nice way. He really didn't seem impressed when I told him I was a licensed waste water operator in N.C. for the last 12 years. We talked about the drain and "What If" I told him that I would block it and sump the wash water to a "Landscaped Area" to which he replied "Well We Would Really Rather You Send It To A Sanitary Clean Out Drain" quite smugly. So I ask him "Does Your Waste Water Plant Know This"? His reply....No. I let him know that if he or his boss had any questions to just give me a call, didn't seem to like that either. Sorry Back On Topic........... I just don't see why City Officials and Contractors can't work together for the same common goal.

Kinda looks that way doesn't it Tony. That might answer a lot of questions. Just saying.

Mr. Hinderliter, your knowledge and expertise is without question, but if you would indulge me I have some questions. Why is it so important to "Shop" this BMP around? When I was told (Personally) by the ex-ED of the PWNA said they wouldn't. You're doing this and you know you are. What is the reason for this? Why are Pressure Washers "Pigeon Holed" as "Polluters" in the eyes of the Regulators you speak to and know on a personal level? Why were they Grouped together with Major Environmental Criminals that do things that we as Contractors, not to mention Human Beings would never do? Why did it take a small group of Contractors (that had no where near your knowledge, influence or expertise) to point out the Major Flaws and mistakes in they're targeting Pressure Washers in Houston? Why didn't Mr. Clark recognize the efforts of these Contractors in his PWNA announcement about the last Houston meeting? Why is what we do still categorized as "Cosmetic Cleaning"? To me (And A Lot Of Others) this is a derogatory description of the service we provide. This term degrades the service, and Industry I represent. Why disallow hot water? Emulsification also happens (To a smaller degree) even in cold water washing? I have immense respect for you Robert, and my opinions in this matter are not swayed by outside personalities. What you're saying, and what you're doing seem to be totally opposite.

The issue is, using the *****'s name in a release promoting the BMP without the Org's permission. BMP's for every City, State & County are coming via the EPA. With or without the P#NA's or Roberts help. Again if the ***** wants to add an "Environmental Standard" I see no problem with this, but to promote this BMP that doesn't represent All of it's Members is wrong IMHO. I still have a problem with the wording attached to the Ft. Worth BMP. The meat of the BMP mirrors that of the minimum of the CWA, which I don't have a problem with. The P#NA has wanted for a long time to "Absorb" the Membership of the ***** they hate the *****...Why? Because the ***** stands against everything they stand for, I think you guys know this. Why did the ***** accept the BMP that the P%NA took a Butt Whipping For??? There was a reason I believe, but it's only a hunch. I'm sure the other Org. would love for you guys to Drop or not renew your Membership to the *****, just gives them more power. They don't need Membership dues to survive, the ***** does.....Think About It. Don't get me wrong, Vendors are one of the most important assets of any Org., but the most important asset is it's Members and the best interests of it's Members..... Period.

Man, you're in a great position to start and build a business. My advice is not to start right now. Even though you are in the South, things will be winding down soon. Use this time to research and gather as much info as possible, which it looks like that's what you're doing. Keep It Simple!!! Whatever scope of work you choose, try to narrow it down as much as possible. Make sure you can profit from them, and make sure you have the proper equipment to "maximize your profit potential" Read, Read & Read some more. --- - Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

5-6 k valve??? Why? I think the prob you're having may be the quality of valve you're using now, Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Ok now it's wired. All of the lights are LED except for fender lights. Grounds for lights and brakes. All 4 wheels have brakes. 95% of the wiring is encased in flex tubing. Wiring is a "Weak Link" as far as trailers, so I wanted to do what I could to prevent problems down the road. You'll notice wires are run through metal tubing coming from the front, through the angle to the back. Then 3 pieces of metal tubing support the flex tubing across the back to the other side. Added an LED light strip to the back for extra visibility, I'm sure I'll be replacing this frequently. Bed will be put in this weekend.

Brave Man. Prayers for the Family.

Roger That! That's the way we do it too. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

OX or aluminum brightener for rust, sh for the rest. As long as it's natural stone I don't see a problem. I would do a test spot on the rust first.

Wheres the like button??? Doug, couldn't agree more. Fear mongering to sell "Soft Wash" equipment. Guess we know how that ended. Yep, we wash homes using under 500 psi, concrete 3000psi, wood around 1000....Knowing the difference.......Priceless

Should be sand blasted & painted next. Went with epoxy primer and polyurethane Red PPG paint. $500.00 in primer & paint. 1 gal primer...2 gal paint. My hip pocket is hurting, and I'm not even done yet. Here's whats left to buy. Boards New roof rig (Bob) 8 gpm cold PP (Bob) 2...35 gal chem tanks 1...50 gal chem tank sch 80..2" pvc for hydrant fill 2" pvc valve 2" cam locks (for fire hose) 20 gal fuel tank That's just off the top of my head!

New metal welded in, reinforced fenders. Off to be sand blasted and painted. Had Keith at KBK designed the signs. Dang this thing is costing an arm and a leg, and I don't even have the wood for the bed, lights or chrome rims yet. But this thing will be Bad To The Bone and functional too!!

HHHmmmm I'll give it thought Aaron. :)

Depends on the definition of "High Pressure". If you're talking about 3000 psi, then NO you wouldn't want to use that. Generally you want to use around 1000 psi. Having an adjustable pressure wand helps greatly when cleaning wood. The more pressure you use, the more "Felting", the more sanding, the more time, the less money you make. Hope this helps.

I would suggest to anyone that is starting out in pressure washing to go no lower than a 13 hp 3000 to 3500 psi, 4 gpm machine. Gallons per minute (Or liters) is more important than psi (or Bar). The more gpm (liters) the faster you move. Even 1 gpm more is a lot. All of our washers are 8 gpm, and wouldn't have it any other way.

2 sides at a time.

I think someone needs a hug.

Might want to check with Celeste & Roger @ Carolina Pro Wash, they're in Graham N.C. Tell Charlie I said Hey!

Allen, check out the Florida Hose Guys. They've got 2 wire import hose that lasts pretty long. I think 200' costs somewhere around $250.00 delivered. I have ordered from them for the last 3 yrs. good service. Ask for Kirk, tell him I sent you.

Since you're running cold water, I would suggest a 20" Mosmatic. You could go with a Big Guy 28" but that's about $800.