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Scott Stone

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  1. Funny thing, I have them too, and so do others, that I sent them to a long time ago. I am trying to figure out how they were modified. I did mention in them that I did not have any pictures that I could use. Is that how you are trying to make me out to be a liar? Sort of like the story that you have told multiple people how another contractor local to me asked me about a price for a parking garage, then I went in and undercut it? That one isn't true either. Quick way, if I am so dishonest, on at least that story, who is more discredited? If that is true, why didn't he ask to use my recovery equipment as part of his bid, instead of going with another contractor? Does that make sense? Ask someone for advice, and then partner up with someone else to do the job?


  2. Yep, I tried to include you in an article I was writing for a magazine, back when we were friends. You will notice I promised I would give you full credit, and sent you my email to the publisher that said I wanted you to get full credit. Instead, you didn't trust me, probably because you knew what you would have done in the same situation, and tried to watermark the pictures making them unusable for the magazine, and then did all you could to find out who the publisher was and get an article in yourself. All the while keeping it hidden.

    That is okay Jim, I am still cleaning more garages then you on an annual basis, and have been asked to teach, and asked to continue returning to teach at garage conferences, and doing what I enjoy. I am sure that you will agree that they would not ask me to return if they did not think I knew my stuff, or if I was horribly boring.

    BTW, I met oneof your customers at a parking garage conference. It was enlightening...


  3. I actually cancelled work last night for pressure washing operations. I know Ron did, too. We were worried about ice remaining after washing, and people slipping and falling in the morning. I have NEVER cancelled anything because of weather, but safety dictated that I do it.


  4. You will notice that I have never disputed that high heat is effective at removing oils. In fact, your treatise has said the same thing I have said before. The problem is my customers want the grime dirt and sludge removed. Steam cannot remove those things because it has reached a point of entropy that the water does not have the specific mass to remove the solids. So, when a person goes in with a fire hose, except for the grease spots, he is basically rinsing down the garage using huge amounts of water. In all honesty, the fire hose is faster then a garden hose because of the voljme of water. Why a pressure washer is faster is because the pressure accelerates the erosion. Imagine how fast the Grand Canyon could have been formed if the water had more then static pressure behind it.

    As for the Vegas demo, you are likely the only person that remembers it happening that way. I have a bunch of people, including Jim that have told me the same thing that Ron said here. They were all independent of each other, so I would like to think it was not a grand conspiracy.


  5. I am not going to pretend like I understand what that is talking about. I do remember when my Mom was cooking with a pressure cooker. If you remember those htings, it would heat up and there was a gasket ot hold the pressure in. What I always thought was interesting is that as the pressure was being released, the steam would dissipate immediately. I would imagine that is similar to the process in a pressure cleaning system. The heater coil and the hose would be just like the pressure cooker. It is a containment vessel that controls the heat and pressure of the water. As soon as it is released from the hose, the pressurized water, no matter what type of nozzle is being used, is going to vaporize. Yes, it will be hot, but there is one thing that you will notice that Jim has never claimed in all his statements about his equipment. He always talks about the oil removal abilities, but he never talks about the dirt and sludge that his pressure washer removes. That is why he has to use a fire hose to rinse, because his hot steam cannot remove dirt, it does note emulsify it so that it can be washed away.

    Instead, he rinses it down with a fire hose. I guess it works for him, but I don;t think that his using thousands of gallons of water is more effective then what I can do using 500 gallons. I also think that his garage does not become any cleaner than using standard, industry accepted and acknowledged cleaning techniques.


  6. Jim, we have been through this time and again, you have even admitted it, you do not clean at those super hot temperatures, because it does not clean nearly as effectively as lower temperatures. It was proven in front of multiple people in Las Vegas, when you cleaned an area, and someone with a small, standard pressure washer went over the same area, and the area came out much cleaner. I have heard it from at least 5 different people that saw the demonstration. It is a great marketing gimmick, but in reality, that is all it really is, a marketing gimmick. I have explained the science to you multiple times, and you refuse to understand. Unless you can explain how water can clean at 275 degrees after it exits the nozzle, and stay in a liquid state, this is all a bunch of BS marketing.


  7. First, I don't walk pushing that much water. ;) I have seen the cyclones, and from what I have seen the spray bars are belt driven, and they use a blade like a lawn mower blade to create the vacuum. I am currently using a squeegee to suck up the water with pretty good results.

    In my opinion I think higher heat is good, but there is a point of diminishing returns where high heat is counter productive.


  8. This sound good in theory but with the extra weight of the additional arms I would venture to put the two you suggested straight down to remain at 15 degs and increase the angle on the other two arms.

    Smaller four arm SC's are probably a delight, but most that have 4 arm surface cleaners have big decks , the arc length between nozzles is probably close to a smaller surface cleaner with less arms, so they find that the forward speed is still slow.

    I am talking a 38" surface cleaner pushing 12 GPM at 3500 PSI. Maybe have two larger nozzles straight down, and two smaller nozzles for propulsion. So that would be two 1.5's and two 4's or something similar. Just trying to think outside the box to get the best scientifically provable cleaning.

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