Kristopher Pettitt

Just to get some clarification. What is the difference between "members" and "Donating Members"?

Because the knowledge there could be valuable to my business. Like I'm still reading threads in The ***, even though I was banned because the information there has value to me.

I totally agree with you, but how can we get the answers we are seeking if The ***** is not here to answer them? Or better question is why these questions aren't being asked in The ***** forum. My personal answer is because I don't want to get banned from that as well.

Guy, I agree with the others. We do need answers. However if you can't answer them then you can't. It's as simple as that. I don't want to see a private conversation. I want to see the tough questioned answered and I even want to ask them. So why has no committee member came in and answered? Are they banned? Do they choose not to answer? or is there another reason behind it? As far as I can tell TGS is not apart of The *****, so it's a little difficult to ask the "tough questions" in a place that does not link to The *****. The only place that I know of that is linked to The ***** is The ***, and I have seen many discussions aboard that site that I would love to get to the bottom of, but I can't be involved. This is why I'm so against bans, because when a serious discussion is being discussed some (like myself) have no voice. Our voice has to be stretched out over to this site in hopes that it is read.

Hater: Someone who does not agree with what another is doing.

Just need to clarify something about the “need and want” post I made. I’m speaking as a customer’s perspective. Take for example my coffee stain on my rug, it could stay there as long as I want it to. Removing that stain or not removing that stain in no way affects my life. If I do call a carpet cleaner it’s because I “want” that stain removed and I “want” my carpet cleaned. Now that same stain might become a “need” if I want my deposit back. So it does vary. Can you imagine the saturation of our industry if our consumers “needed” our services? (Yeah saw your from North Carolina is why I asked. I’ve been a panthers fan since they came to The NFL. In fact my colors for my company stem from The Panthers.) @John, if you do email the committee and they answer could you post the answer in a thread? I would be interested to see what their answers are. I also think those same questions should be directed to The PWNA as well and their answers posted as well. Like to see the difference between the two Orgs.

That to me is difficult to answer because I don't have the experience like you and others have. There are many professions that are saturated. Mechanics,truck drivers, nurses, ect, ect. Hard to say weather a saturation of pressure washers would help the industry as a whole or hurt. In my own thought I think a little of both. I think it would hurt the small business owners like myself and at the same time would help the corporate power washing companies with 10-20 trucks grow exponentially. Guess it depends on what side of the court you're on. Just a really hard question to answer, ask me that question in 2-3 years and I might have a better answer for you. (PS, your not a panthers fan btw?)

Unfortunally I no longer truck drive. About 3 months into my truck driving career I had my first seizure and lost my class A. Was never allowed to gain it back, otherwise I would still be doing that. You could say they trained me enough to do both. So yes if I was still truck driving I would like to think that after 12 years now I would have my money’s worth. In schooling there is never any guarantee that you’ll be successful.

I do think creating a manual of sorts would be a much cheaper alternative then what I'm stating above.

Tell me something, these "certificates" everyone is speaking of (this goes out to both PWNA and *****): Do they have a manual of sorts? Usually before you take a test your given a book or manual that tells all of the answers that might be asked on the test. It is designed to teach and educate those who may or may not know (in this case) about roof cleaning. In basic terms; where is the teaching material? Giving someone a certificate that's been doing it for X amount of years is just plain dumb. They already know how to roof clean cause they experienced in it. It's the newbies (like myself) that need this knowledge I would love to attend classes that teach me exactly how to roof wash any kind of roof.I ain't talking about some crash course, I'm talking about in-depth cleaning. This way I can literally say "Yes I do roofs", and have the knowledge to do it correctly with-out the guess work. Here is my advice to both orgs. If your going to give out certificates and make people take tests then have the manuals made to back it up. Both orgs are filled with professional power washers and I know with that much knowledge a manual could be made. Then and only then will I fully believe that a "certificate" has a merit.