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I found a good test for acrylic coatings- basically alcohol on a clean cloth will remove color not dirt if it is acrylic. Now I have my tester kit when I go out on deck bids from now on.
This is a great site, and thanks for all the input.
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When do you use or not use the TSP?
Vinyl?
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What % of SH and soap are you using for House washes?
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I start with 2 cups sodium hydroxide to 5 gallons H2O and some soap.Sounds almost like the mix for dumpster cleaning...lol (What percent do you estimate that to be?) I use gain as a detergent for my roof cleaning, I suppose it would work with your mix as well to get it to stick. I have an inclination that I might be doing some sanding and some de-furring. The stain is all over the board with this project.
Any advice on stain mops and defurring discs?
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What percent do you start with ?
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Has anyone used all the above strippers and prefer one over the other? I know EF has a PB in it and is supposed to be a stripper too? I just want to know if most are buying this stuff off the shelf still? or mixing their own after several years...
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Jake,Not sure. I believe RS was compliant without change of product prior to the 250 g/l VOC regulations. An old MSDS sheet indicates 15% mineral spirits solvent.
If you read the press release in the link above, this is a further decrease in VOC content in the stain this year.
The current MSDS on their web site indicates a 9% solvent(?), described as "Distillates, Petroleum, Hydrated Light" with a CAS number. I am no chemist!
I see you have been using this product for a long time now. I just placed my first order with them and am hoping that the job turns out well. We are still new to the wood restoration side of this business. I have to strip, brighten, and seal a 2000 sq ft beast of a deck right out of the gate. Using f-18, OX, dry time then onto RS with an airless and some stain mops...
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Patrick,I have no idea what "regular acrylic floor strippers" are. We only work on exterior wood.
We primarily use 3 different products for exterior acrylic stripping. 2 out of the 3 are more benign (gentle) to the wood than hot sodium hydroxide mixes. The most costly is north of $60/gallon and you can wash your hands in it. Does no damage to the wood. Or your skin.
What are all three if you can tell me? or PM me with the names/ labels if that is more appropriate. Floor strippers are high alkaline and usually contain or resemble a strong ammonia?
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Patrick,Mix up a quart or so of sodium hydroxide based wood stripper. Use an equivalent strength of say 8 to 10 oz. per gal. of water. Put in a spray bottle for testing. It has a long shelf life.
If the stain starts to emulsify within a few minutes, it is probably an oil. Caveat, there are some water based finishes that can be removed with strong, hot mix sodium hydroxide strippers, especially if additives such as surfactant and "boosters" are used.
Great idea- I have test bottles I use for our other cleaning jobs.
What is the preferred method for acrylic removal?..... Besides running away? Can regular acrylic floor strippers work w/o damaging the wood at all?
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I am having a difficult time determining what finish was used for some projects.. Is there a specific test that you can do to figure out if it was a water based or acrylic finish?
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I meant SB not SH....sorry.
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I just wanted to know when is it better to use one over the other when stripping finishes off? We don't do a lot of decks unless a customer insists so we are looking at the best way to Strip, neutralize, then seal with a good commercial stain like-Wood Tux.
2000 sq ft deck with railing
Three years since stained
Unknown stain used some peeling
Very dry wood on one side of the house-
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There is an unnamed company north of me using it and posting great reviews and before and after pictures of it. It is used for cleaning anything organic for CSI cleanup so why can't a super strong mixture work? I could be wrong but isn't it the same as h2 o2...?
I could be mistaken but that is what I was reading on their site.
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Wow! I have a new 4200 psi pw from Dewalt plus my Heated TM and I don't even know if they have all those safety features....?
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I believe that you can clean roofs with it. I know a company that uses it instead of bleach all together.
Signature does not work when I post with my iPad for some reason... FYI
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I carry both SH and SB now. I have seen great restorative cleaning done with SB lately, on wood, roofs, and concrete. It might be slower, but it is way safer hands down.
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