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Mike, I agree 100% on this. Too many problems with people using our photos already and I dont allow it. I am not as tech savvy as most and I am the first to say it. But doesnt google recognize when its a photo being used as such? For the price of a camera, or use of your phone, its well worth the hassle of taking your own photos. If you cant then you shouldnt have any. We take photos upon doing the estimate. Theres your before. And its benefit to do this as you can compare houses and possibly research why you did get one house and not another, i.e. did you price one higher, etc.

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Happy retirement Larry. I am sure its well deserved. So many wouldnt be where they are today without your knowledge and voice.

Al, Not sure as I think there are many options. I would recommend to stay away from Best Buy. We have been duked by them on several occasions in the past two years. Including the Geek Squad. Its worthless and I am guilty of falling for their sales pitch. We even had a laptop hard drive go bad from there that wasnt even a year old. Took two weeks to get it back and they mailed it and left it on our porch. Since that day I have stayed out of there.

Dont be gun shy Al. No reason to be.

Jim, Prayers sent your way. Rest easy. And have a good recovery...

LOL I remember the days I would say booo too. But the snow business has been an extra blessing. This winter we have put some new systems in place. We have edited and changed many systems. Marketing included. More tracking will make us aware of the new systems we are putting in place. And the old systems that didnt produce we are not and will not be doing anymore. Pretty good stuff. We havent did the numbers for Feb yet but Jan was the best January ever for us.

Its exciting to know spring is around the corner. Although for us we are still awaiting the storm coming this Weds. I had on my list to do this week, to remove the snow plow and spreader. But that is on hold. Nice to make that extra chunk of change going into spring. For us our machines will be serviced to full extent as usual. Sames with the trucks and trailers. I think alot of people forget about the maintenance on trailers. Our marketing never ends. We just produce more pieces at certain times frames thru the year.

Sensable questioning regarding an Association is a right to the members and potential members. Asking how one should take their own life is disturbing and the poster should be banned for life. There is too much drama in the world the way it is. But when the owner of the BBS makes a post saying that it stops here and now, and there is no respect from the Remora's it makes it apparent why this industry will never end up in unity. There's a total lack of respect among some.

Absolutely. Luck falls into many area's of life IMO. I was and feel lucky for many things in life.

Guy, I never insinuated anything. But if you take it as that well I cant tell you not too. But my point is that if your president is banned from this BBS how did he get a screen shot? The only people that would do is limited. Right? I do hope we can agree to that one. Im not baiting you or luring you in. I simply am explaining to you and the rest of the BOD facts. This org will never exist. You (the BOD and Ron) have simply turned over the outside. Good luck cleaning up all the crap now. This is not personal Guy so stop with telling me I show you no respect. I do or I wouldnt bother typing this. But you are in a position with the Org and therefore people, contractors will come at you with questions and opinions. When you cant handle those and avoid them it does nothing but make things worse. I hope you know what I mean. To call this trash is wonderful. Its your FREE members speaking their opinions. And you call us or our opinions TRASH? I have nothing but respect for Beth and Rod. So lets not even go there Guy. I will not go to your presidents BBS and be manipulated. I know what goes on over there as do many. This is why this industry will always have a seperation. You think a call went out...Lol. It did, from your president. He called me and wasnt happy I told him Robert H founded the *****. He tried to manipulate me and brought others names into it. Even going as far as telling me their opinions. Sorry but mine stayed the same. Its an opinion for crying out load. So after hearing that I would not budge he goes to his BBS and tells everyone I was a founder? What a joke. Period. And then when he does get his way he calls me a clown over there...LOL. Guy to say the least its laughable. Again this is why I said if you want to play ball like that thats ok. But life is a two way street. Everyone see's whats going on with the BOD. You can get all of them together. It doesnt matter. You all are in recovery zone. I get it. But going off on tyraids and making statements may be better off handled by one. You guys need to understand you are in a position of authority (in the Org of course). Some will look at you as that. When you are not respectful and your president makes videos every ten minutes on people it really doesnt look good. Please explain the flip side of the coin? I want to know more.

I think I would want to be a TWIT...LOL. Wait should I tell my customer the whole meaning or just tell them I am a TWIT. And a TWIT instructor...LOL. Thats funny there. Just goes to show you I guess anyone can put out certs and be an instructor.

Kind of found this relevant to the ongoing's... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmx4twCK3_I

Guy, I saw what you wrote so I will respond as gingerly as possible. This thread has obviously hit a nerve to some. I find it funny what you wrote on this post but it was screen shot and somehow ends up on your President's BBS. Really Guy I think you and his friends may have to rethink how you want to play ball. He can make 1000 you tube videos calling me out. I dont care. He can try to discredit me. I dont care. I know the trusth and nothing he does or says will change that. I am a moderator here and respected by many more than you will ever know. I try to hold up my end on standards and practices. I also have tried to stay ethically correct. I have had many phone calls from respeccted contractors and I have assured them that I would leave them out of this situation. I have done that and I will continue to do so. Life is a two way street. Remember that. You can't expect people to get blasted and then in turn when its you you cry wolf or whine about some wrong doing. This kind of sounds like a phone call I had with your president. If you and the BOD want opinions or help I will give it. Here is my suggestion. Close the doors. Disban the Org. End it all. Can I be any more clear then that? What has transpired from jealously and ignorance is unreal. I make an opinionated statement and your so called leader, his friends and the BOD chose to make it personal and attack me. Questions are avoided. You cannot manipulate people but so far. You cant use the friendship card when its suiting then pull the card when its not. Your president calls people out on video and you sit back and do nothing. Maybe I am not worthy of the Org. Maybe I should go into pig farming and start my own organization.

LMAO. Thanks for your bio. I hope I dont have to pay for it and if I do can I get you sign my copy? Tony, You all just dont get it. Your BOD has put the cart before the horse on the certifications. Or maybe the horse just stopped? I have told many others this and since you brought it up I will say it directly to you. I dont need recognition about the convention I was a chair of. I had plenty of help and there were plnety of things that went wrong. Most of that only a few people only knew or know of. I am no different than the guy who put on the next round table. We have a very successful business and I can say that for the past 10 years or so. I have been blessed with being able to go from a part timer to a full timer. To answer your question from previously I was a professional bullfighter for almost 13 years. Not a clown like I was accused of. But if you want comedy I can show you that? www.*****.org is a good place to start. Its not about bashing but the materials and information that the BOD has released will continue to be detrimental to this Org. Can it succeed with only 100 members? I guess we will see.

Tony, Who are you? Are you on the BOD of the *****?

Guy, I appreciate the comment. But again you must not get it. I dont give two bulls ***** about Ron. What my point is that he is relentless. This is why people will never join the Org. I didnt know I had a problem with Ron to be honest. I voiced my opinion on a topic of discussion. Then he harrasses me with phone calls and text messeges. I clearly state do not call or text me. You do know what harrassment is? My point is that this is your president of a "so called" national Org. Your BOD puts out "free" memberships for contractors to the Org because of why? I get it...you cant get the membership. But just name me one Org who allows free members to be on committee's. Whats the purpose of paying for membership when you can get it free? You have your president promoting that the VP's school is the best in the world, industry, etc. What a joke this Org has become. You can run when you want to and thats ok I understand why Guy. But you are a part of this until you get out of the BOD. And no affadavit you sign will reliquish you of your duties. You ask why the ***** is under fire. When contractors cannot voice their opinions there is no need for an Org. or if they do this is how they get treated. Make it the United Assoc of Mickeys Clubhouse Cleaners. I am sure Disney has enough money to fund you part way.

Guy, Cant tell me one huh? I get it now though. Now I know why its called a donating membership. One of the questions I asked several times was for you (BOD) to tell us what committee's are out there and who is on them (Both non and donating members). So you respect me Guy? Then why come up with the story that Ron is only saying that about Dougs school because Doug had a heart attack. Really? You know thats more BS then whats its worth to say.

You really dont get it do you? Let me put this out there. Just a few minutes your president sends me a text telling me to go to his BBS. He screen shots the text and posts it on his BBS. Let him know do not text me again. He really doesnt want to **** me off. This is non sense. I asked in my very first post for all parties to do not call nor text me about this. Yet he continues. And you had to ask why people dont want to speak up?

Guy, You are a good person. I do believe that. But you are in with the Kliq (BOD) of Rons. Dont drink the Kool Aid...LOL. When you want to stay professional and this isnt directly relating to you but more the BOD I will. So sorry for the BS jab but your president is the best BS'er. And back stabber. Yes there was history there and I thought it was swept up. But he did nothing more than pour salt on the wound per se. What an emabrrassment to an Org for him to say the things he does. In your S&P you may want to write up something on double standards. The almighty one can talk alot of crap behind the computer thats for sure. But seriously this Org and the way it is now is nothing less then exclusive. The contractors that would want to join have or will be excluded. The ones who want a free membership are included. So much that you allow them to be on committee's? Tell me Guy what Org allows outsiders to vote and be on committee's? Answer that one.

Guy, I dont have the time to investigate every industry. Thanks. Maybe you can tell me. But be aware if you say you are the first that it can conceived as a lie if there are some and you dont find them. The questions being avoided...maybe you should start reading from Post 1 on this thread and see how many questions were avoided. One I havent asked you is do you endorse Dougs school as the best like Ron is posting? Again Guy readt he previous posts from Barry where people are afriad to speak up. As for being Exclusive no worries...the ***** is already exclusive because you have excluded the majority of contractors...enough said?

Guy, Go to your boss oops I mean Ron and look at his posts on *** where he actually calls me a clown. Really Guy you want to talk about hypocrisy? It starts with the President...