JohnB 14 Report post Posted February 6, 2010 Ok you take a 30 or 55 gallon drum then you mount a 2 stage or 3 stage vac motor to the top like the photo and then put you a drain hole with a cap are pump out in the bottom .. or maybe put 2 - 2stage vac motors with a Y on Top to hook them together.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doug T 19 Report post Posted February 6, 2010 You would have something that has been done by others. Mold Remediation - NIKRO INDUSTRIES Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnB 14 Report post Posted February 7, 2010 .. Will 104 cfm at 134 inches of waterlift out of this 3 stage motor , work on a surface cleaner ...(vac) How Much Vac hose could I run Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnB 14 Report post Posted February 8, 2010 Ok I talked to a guy that sales MYTEE surface cleaners and he said CFM is more important than waterlift , but I have heard different .. So my biggest problem is running 2- 104 cfm motors to get 208 cfm at 134 inches of waterlift the amp draw would be way over 24 amps... Thats not including the sump pump out... So if I only use one vac motor I could do it but I dont think I would have enough cfm at only 104.......The water lift would be fine .. But I dont think 104 cfm would pull water thru 50 ft of hose.. But with one motor my amps would be 12.5 for the vac motor and about 7 more amps win the pump out kicks on.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jerry 24 Report post Posted February 8, 2010 You would have something that has been done by others. QUOTE]......................:lol: Yeah, and here's how the tools work.. each tool.. surface cleaner, VacuBerm, floor tool, GulperWand, or whatever, requires a certain amount of CFM's to draw what you intend to suck up. and for that "level of performance", at longer lengths of hose, you need more suction (..LIFT !) to "deliver the performance" Profitable cleaners don't spend time re-engineering every tool, and component part.. Buy tools that are already competitive, especially "Performance For the Dollar". AKA.. one with an engineer, and a strong warranty. Jerry McMillen Pres,Cleaning System Specialists, Inc. a.. dba ..www.PressureWasher.net info@pressurewasher.net anytime....................call ...800-400-Clean(2532) 10821 Airport Drive El Cajon, Calif. 92020 ..............office..619-448-8111 manufacturers of… .....BullDogProIndustrial Water Blasters Sirocco Reclaim Systems,and the...VacuBerm ...see them at.. http://www.pressurewasher.net/siroccovacuums/sirocco.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnB 14 Report post Posted February 8, 2010 Jerry I know .. But in my spare time when I get really bored wich is about 5 hours out of the day .. I always strive to build things.. I am not really trying to improve the design but simply see if I can build one myself... In some form or fashion we all have an inventive nature about us. We have all strived to build a better mouse trap over the years.. Heck look at the guy who invented the flipable toilet paper roller.. Same roller just a unique twist. I built my own surface cleaner years ago and it's still going strong.. The fact is that after looking at the sirocco vac unit that we have and the mosmatic surface cleaner that we have , it doesnt look to complicated to build.. But you are right warranty is agood thing and buying one thats already put together would save me time to actually work.. the sirocco vac that we use has 200cfm at 137 inches of water lift , it is a 30 gallon metal drum , powdercoat red... the surfacer is 21 inch (shell in shell ) design mosmatic.. I am doing the project to see if I can do it.. I in the past have built a surface cleaner, wet vac with pump out feature , gas powered 9hp wet vac , and a improved x-jet nozzle.. Oh yeah and my duct spinner... It's all just for fun anyway.. Heck yesterday before the SAINTS tore up the Colts I spent 8 hours on the Auto-Cad designing the Surfacer shell... I also have decided to go with the Amtech vac motors , but I may have to use a generator to power them because of the amp draw.. The only thing that really gets expensive is the tools to design the things I want to build.. but since I only work at night , I have to have something to do during the day.. I will keep you informed of how this turns out .. It will probably take the better part of 3 months to build this unit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites