Chad A 14 Report post Posted May 15, 2014 Well I have search this forum and a couple others for the information needed. I am doing a engine swap but I am needing to know what size Gas engine. I have read and found a couple of different formulas. psi x gpm/1100 psi x gpm x .0007 So now I am confused as which formula is right. My pump is a GP TS2021 which is 3500 psi at 5.6 gpm I am currently running a kubota D600 3 cylinder diesel which 14 hp So given the formulas above which is right 3500 x 5.6 = 19600 / 1100 = 17.8 hp 3500 x 5.6 = 19600 x .0007 = 13.7 hp Given the engine that is currently on the pump which is 14 hp I am completely confused as to which one is right. The unit I have is a Whitco DPO 5030. Any information, help, explanation, or answers are greatly appreciated.... Thanks in advance, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CNY Hood Cleaning 27 Report post Posted May 15, 2014 Hi, This is the formulas I use. Gas:psi(gpm)/1024= hpElectric:psi(gpm)/1460=hpdiesel:psi(gpm)/1250=hp So it would be: 3500(5.6)/1250= 15.68hp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chad A 14 Report post Posted May 16, 2014 Ok now that makes 4 different formulas. Now with this formula it makes the gas hp even higher. 3500 x 5.6 = 19600 / 1024 = 19.2 hp gas Which is higher than the one I had posted. This is where I am getting confused. Is there not and industry standard formula or is there several. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CNY Hood Cleaning 27 Report post Posted May 16, 2014 I hope I got the correct formula cause I've been using them for years now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chad A 14 Report post Posted May 16, 2014 Just found another formula under grainger.com That states this for gas engine hp Ebhp = (gpm x psi) / 1457 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chad A 14 Report post Posted May 16, 2014 I am sure you do and that's what I am trying to find out. There are so many different formulas from reputable people but the only issue is they all vary in +\- 1 to 4 hp. Now with my kubota d600 I know it is a 14hp but it is diesel and it has more torque than a gas engine. The only reason I am wanting to do an engine swap is because the parts are getting harder and harder to find for that engine. Not to mention the pricey side of it too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badzuk 16 Report post Posted May 20, 2014 Well I have search this forum and a couple others for the information needed. My pump is a GP TS2021 which is 3500 psi at 5.6 gpm I am currently running a kubota D600 3 cylinder diesel which 14 hp Any information, help, explanation, or answers are greatly appreciated.... Thanks in advance, I run a 18 hp Vanguard motor on that pump, runs it very well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chad A 14 Report post Posted May 21, 2014 Thank you both for the information. As it turns out My uncle had a couple of running D600 engines up on the farm so I have now them. According to General Pump For the gas engine calculation it would be... psi x gpm / 1100 = hp Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turbonyg 17 Report post Posted May 22, 2014 I don't have a formula, I just look at the prebuilt units. It seems the 4gpm usually have a 13hp, 6gpm 18hp, and 8gpm 24hp gas engines. Based on knowing the torque numbers of these and yours you can probably be close enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CNY Hood Cleaning 27 Report post Posted May 22, 2014 I think you should be good also.. If anything you can drop the psi on the unloader a bit if the kubota has a hard time but I dought. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites