Guest rfitz Report post Posted July 12, 2003 I currently have a deck from HELL, it was stained several times, in the past, and then just about 1 month ago, customer had a painting company say sure we will stain your deck...? So of course they went down to the local Sherwin williams paint store and bought Cuprinol Solid Deck Stain, and applied 1 heavy coat, no previous washing or prepping was done.. (What would you expect from a painting company) ? Anyway, I was called to bid the job, so I gave a bid of $2.00 a sq ft to strip and stain the deck, well now I have to double my original bid, after trying to strip it for 6 hours with little success.. most of that time was spent applying strippers and let dwell I found out it is a acrylic based product, and just wondering if HD-80 will even touch this stuff, and if anyone has actually used HD80 on this exact solid deck stain... This might be a walk away, the deck is 1/4 stripped, but that is using about 2000 PSI, heat and, a Stripper I won't mention... The DECK is only 8X10, and I feel bad, but the customer will end up spending $1,000 with me, and who knows what she paid to the painting co. THX Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Beth n Rod 1,279 Report post Posted July 12, 2003 IF it is Cuprinols solid deck stain, then yes it will strip it. If it is one of the Sherwin & Williams paints, then you have a 50/50 shot. HD-80 strips many things, but it is means to strip products that are for decks and fences, not paint per se. Do a test patch. For every coat of cuprinol give it a 20 minute dwell time, and keep applying product. Perform a scratch test with a paint stirring stick. An acrylic will not run off the wood, but will turn rubbery and eventually (possibly even a longer dwell time) will become dark through the solid. When removing use a 25 degree tip about 6-8 inches from the surface and it should fly off in chunks or strips. That's how acrylics come off. If you power up the machine too sonn, be prepared to let it dry and go back to it again. I can't stress enough that on an acrylic the dwell time may be longer - you may be waiting an hour. Call Rod on his cell 240-876-0693 for field support if you need it. He has taken of Cuprinol many times. Beth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Beth n Rod 1,279 Report post Posted July 12, 2003 By the way...would love it if you would share that stripper you were using... ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Dale 16 Report post Posted July 12, 2003 rfitz, Just wondering...how do you walk away or double your price once you have an agreement and have started the job?? If the deck was just done a month ago,why is it being redone so soon? If its failing that bad so soon, it should come off....maybe its not the cuprinol but whats under it? Did you do a test area first?, its ALWAYS a good idea IMHO, if it seems like its not your ordinary run of the mill job, i.e. numerous layers, unknown finishes, is it stain?? is it paint??? then for sure test!! Dale Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Guest rfitz Report post Posted July 12, 2003 I said it was cuprinol, solid deck stain, and in my contract, that I had 8 lawyers put together for me, I put in their, after job is started, cost's may increase due to owners not being aware of stains paints etc.. that are beneath top layer my quotes are to strip top most layer of 1 coat only, after that, owner will be billed at $135.00 per hour for additional prep work, which of course includes stripping... I have to say these lawyers put together a contract that is remarkeable, But I dont push this, If I screw something up, I always take care of it, I wont leave a jobsite until the homeowner is completely satisfied and happy with my work, I have never, or will ever screw a customer... Sometimes, Lawyers get out of control with their legalities Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 John T 744 Report post Posted July 13, 2003 rfitz, My question here would be: Why the 8 lawyers to put together a contract for you?? Did it take 8 of those Lawyers to screw in a light bulb?(Just joking couldn't resist;) ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Guest rfitz Report post Posted July 13, 2003 Dale, about the new stain appiled, it didnt fail, it was a paint, the customer didnt like it, she wanted to see her wood grain, with a regular stain like readyseal, so I am doing it over for them, and as far as doubling my price, that is a long story, when we started to spray stripper on this particluar stain/paint that was used, we spent 3 hours applying, reapplying etc.. then as we were ready to start stripping with pressure, the condo assoc. pres. came out and said stop, the homeowner has to get approval for this work, which she didnt do, and of course she was gone for the day, so I told him if we stop, someone will owe us for 5 hours at $135.00 an hour, because once the stripper dries, we will have to restart everything when we come back, so unfortunately either the condo assoc. or the home owner will be hit with an additional$600-$800 bill for basically nothing, now I heard the condo assoc. pres. is denying he told us to stop, so we might have to take him to court, but I do have 4 witness's that heard him say this, so we shall see..? The Joys of owning a business Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Robert Ray 14 Report post Posted July 16, 2003 I would try HD-80 to get off as much as I could then sand the deck using a 18"x12" square buff sander from 32 grit and 60 grit this works well and have done it many times this year. good luck! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I currently have a deck from HELL, it was stained several times,
in the past, and then just about 1 month ago, customer had a painting
company say sure we will stain your deck...? So of course they went down
to the local Sherwin williams paint store and bought Cuprinol Solid Deck
Stain, and applied 1 heavy coat, no previous washing or prepping was done..
(What would you expect from a painting company) ?
Anyway, I was called to bid the job, so I gave a bid of $2.00 a sq ft to strip
and stain the deck, well now I have to double my original bid,
after trying to strip it for 6 hours with little success.. most of that time
was spent applying strippers and let dwell
I found out it is a acrylic based product, and just wondering if HD-80 will
even touch this stuff, and if anyone has actually used HD80 on this exact
solid deck stain...
This might be a walk away, the deck is 1/4 stripped, but that is using
about 2000 PSI, heat and, a Stripper I won't mention...
The DECK is only 8X10, and I feel bad, but the customer will end up
spending $1,000 with me, and who knows what she paid to the painting co.
THX
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