Roof Chat - Wed. Nov. 8th, 2006 - Transcript

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2006-11-08 20:05:09 [Message] donphelps: Hi Michael...What's up?

2006-11-08 20:05:19 [Message] FCPWLLC: Roofs

2006-11-08 20:05:55 [Message] donphelps: You're a funny man....from KY!

2006-11-08 20:06:22 [Message] FCPWLLC: Not as funny as Thad LOL

2006-11-08 20:07:16 [Message] FCPWLLC: Are we early?

2006-11-08 20:07:32 [Message] donphelps: Beth just told me that there are some problems

with the chat and some might not be able to get in.

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2006-11-08 20:08:18 [Message] FCPWLLC: How did that big job you had go?

2006-11-08 20:08:22 [Message] squirtgun: hello all

2006-11-08 20:08:23 [Message] donphelps: Hi David and Scott

2006-11-08 20:08:38 [Message] DAVIDv: Hi everyone

2006-11-08 20:08:43 [Message] donphelps: It went very well.....We got out of there in 9

days

2006-11-08 20:08:56 [Message] FCPWLLC: Sounds like good $

2006-11-08 20:08:58 [Message] DAVIDv: What's up Don

2006-11-08 20:09:13 [Message] donphelps: Hey David...How's it going?

2006-11-08 20:09:24 [Message] donphelps: It was great $$$

2006-11-08 20:09:38 [Message] squirtgun: Don what was teh final total of chems used on

the job?

2006-11-08 20:09:48 [Message] FCPWLLC: Didn't break any pvc wands? lol

2006-11-08 20:09:51 [Message] donphelps: We bid it at just under $37,500

2006-11-08 20:10:08 [Message] DAVIDv: Good Thanx

2006-11-08 20:10:25 [Message] donphelps: lol....no wands broken and we used about 18

gallons of chem

2006-11-08 20:10:46 [Message] donphelps: lol....1800 gallons, that is

2006-11-08 20:10:49 [Message] squirtgun: lol

2006-11-08 20:10:58 [Message] FCPWLLC: Can you say profit margin?

2006-11-08 20:11:00 [Message] squirtgun: I was wondering what super chem you had

2006-11-08 20:11:26 [Message] donphelps: I can say 'new boat' if the wife doesn't veto

it......lol

2006-11-08 20:11:28 [Message] FCPWLLC: 18 gallons if you use TSP lol

2006-11-08 20:11:43 [Message] donphelps: maybe.....lol

2006-11-08 20:12:10 [Message] donphelps: so...what have you guys been doing with regards

to roofs....staying busy?

2006-11-08 20:12:40 [Message] DAVIDv: Don I'd like to some labor for learning in the

spring...If that cool with you.

2006-11-08 20:12:43 [Message] FCPWLLC: I got 3 roofs for SAT. Ill try to get video of the

Delavan shooting chem.

2006-11-08 20:12:45 [Message] squirtgun: just remember to box up all the 3/8" hose an

shur-flo's by next week.You don't need them anymore and next Thursday is my birthday

2006-11-08 20:13:16 [Message] donphelps: Sounds good, David....We'll work out the details

as it gets closer.

2006-11-08 20:13:30 [Message] DAVIDv: Great..thanx

2006-11-08 20:13:38 [Message] donphelps: Those Delavans look pretty good

2006-11-08 20:13:43 [Message] squirtgun: We cleaned a small one 2 weeks ago.15 miknutes

to apply and 40 to rinse

2006-11-08 20:14:01 [Message] DAVIDv: I got a couple lined up for spring

2006-11-08 20:14:06 [Message] FCPWLLC: So far it has been nice. Time will only tell if it

will last.

2006-11-08 20:14:17 [Message] donphelps: Scott, we'll be heading to KY for Thanksgiving

and we'll try to hook up on the way by.

2006-11-08 20:14:24 [Message] DAVIDv: My season is about over up here

2006-11-08 20:14:44 [Message] speck_chaser: hey all

2006-11-08 20:14:50 [Message] FCPWLLC: Don, where you going here in KY?

2006-11-08 20:14:57 [Message] squirtgun: whats' up Thad

2006-11-08 20:15:02 [Message] speck_chaser: Jelly country!

2006-11-08 20:15:08 [Message] squirtgun: when you going to KY Don

2006-11-08 20:15:09 [Message] speck_chaser: howdy scott

2006-11-08 20:15:12 [Message] donphelps: Yeah, it's weird for us FL guys because

everything is backwards....We'll be busy through the holidays if we want to be.

2006-11-08 20:15:23 [Message] speck_chaser: it's hot here

2006-11-08 20:15:30 [Message] donphelps: Tues. before TG

2006-11-08 20:15:33 [Message] speck_chaser: busy through christmas usually

2006-11-08 20:15:51 [Message] squirtgun: call me maybe we can work out lunch

2006-11-08 20:15:54 [Message] FCPWLLC: What part of KY don?

2006-11-08 20:15:58 [Message] donphelps: June, July and August are my slowest months.

2006-11-08 20:16:04 [Message] speck_chaser: me too

2006-11-08 20:16:04 [Message] donphelps: Madisonville

2006-11-08 20:16:20 [Message] DAVIDv: Those are my months

2006-11-08 20:16:24 [Message] FCPWLLC: My siters in laws are form there.

2006-11-08 20:16:27 [Message] donphelps: Things gettin' better in LA, Thad?

2006-11-08 20:16:29 [Message] speck_chaser: too hot to work here, anyway

2006-11-08 20:16:35 [Message] speck_chaser: yeah, i guess

2006-11-08 20:16:44 [Message] speck_chaser: still fubar

2006-11-08 20:16:47 [Message] speck_chaser: :-)

2006-11-08 20:17:02 [Message] donphelps: You told me about that one time before, Michael

2006-11-08 20:17:08 [Message] squirtgun: lower 82's here,but we have been down into teh

30's at night

2006-11-08 20:17:19 [Message] FCPWLLC: Yes, on cleaning talk

2006-11-08 20:17:25 [Message] donphelps: 70's and windy today here

2006-11-08 20:17:38 [Message] speck_chaser: we got these huge salt marsh mosquitoes

carrying off livestock and children this year

2006-11-08 20:17:46 [Message] speck_chaser: got blown in by katrina

2006-11-08 20:18:07 [Message] speck_chaser: man, those things hurt like yellowjackets

2006-11-08 20:18:29 [Message] speck_chaser: hey, has anyone run a roof rig out of a cargo

van?

2006-11-08 20:18:57 [Message] FCPWLLC: Roof question... Down spout diverters? yes, no?

2006-11-08 20:19:07 [Message] donphelps: The first person to email me at

allseasonsexteriors@gmail.com will get a free PVC wand with stainless fittings....Put

"Give me a Wand" in the header.

2006-11-08 20:19:21 [Message] squirtgun: I would coat the walls with something to slow

down the deterioration from the SH

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2006-11-08 20:19:37 [Message] donphelps: we don't usually use them but I know some do

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2006-11-08 20:20:00 [Message] donphelps: lol....everybody is logging out

2006-11-08 20:20:01 [Message] speck_chaser: in or out?

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2006-11-08 20:20:03 [Message] squirtgun: ouch that was painful

2006-11-08 20:20:06 [Message] speck_chaser: c'mon

2006-11-08 20:20:19 [Message] FCPWLLC: &%^%&%&()%#$$ Pop ups

2006-11-08 20:20:40 [Message] speck_chaser: yeah, i was thinking about using that roll on

stuff that fcpcpll used in his trailer

2006-11-08 20:20:50 [Message] donphelps: Maybe that wasn't such a good idea....everyone

is having problems now, lol

2006-11-08 20:20:56 [Message] speck_chaser: lol

2006-11-08 20:21:03 [Message] speck_chaser: was i first?

2006-11-08 20:21:13 [Message] FCPWLLC: That stuff is cool, Just gotta get it on thick

2006-11-08 20:21:17 [Message] donphelps: I'll let ya know in a sec.

2006-11-08 20:21:28 [Message] speck_chaser: the other thing i'm worried about is fumes

2006-11-08 20:21:34 [Message] speck_chaser: Love aroma

2006-11-08 20:21:50 [Message] squirtgun: Roof vent and a wall sepertaing the passenger

compartment

2006-11-08 20:22:05 [Message] speck_chaser: gotcha

2006-11-08 20:22:27 [Message] speck_chaser: i got a chance to get a cargo van for less

than a cargo trailer so i'm a-thinkin'

2006-11-08 20:22:51 [Message] FCPWLLC: Full size or Astro size

2006-11-08 20:22:57 [Message] speck_chaser: sull

2006-11-08 20:23:01 [Message] speck_chaser: full

2006-11-08 20:23:06 [Message] FCPWLLC: cool

2006-11-08 20:23:15 [Message] speck_chaser: white

2006-11-08 20:23:18 [Message] FCPWLLC: Lots of love

2006-11-08 20:23:26 [Message] speck_chaser: lots of advertising space

2006-11-08 20:23:30 [Message] donphelps: I saw something done the other day that I hadn't

seen before...One of my friends was cleaning a roof over in the Tampa area and they

sprayed the metal boots and vents on the roof with WD-40 first

2006-11-08 20:23:32 [Message] FCPWLLC: yes

2006-11-08 20:23:52 [Message] speck_chaser: to keep them from corroding?

2006-11-08 20:24:06 [Message] donphelps: To help prevent corrosion or paint fading

2006-11-08 20:24:21 [Message] FCPWLLC: How'd it turn out?

2006-11-08 20:24:21 [Message] donphelps: Thad wins the wand! Congrats

2006-11-08 20:24:24 [Message] speck_chaser: lets spray down the windows, too!

2006-11-08 20:24:32 [Message] speck_chaser: cool.

2006-11-08 20:24:36 [Message] squirtgun: Thad you are way fast dude

2006-11-08 20:24:37 [Message] speck_chaser: thanks don.

2006-11-08 20:24:39 [Message] FCPWLLC: Maybe now he will clean a roof

2006-11-08 20:24:42 [Message] donphelps: It worked out great

2006-11-08 20:24:45 [Message] speck_chaser: maybe;)

2006-11-08 20:24:53 [Message] donphelps: lol...you're welcome, Thad

2006-11-08 20:25:12 [Message] donphelps: Now he has one less excuse lol

2006-11-08 20:25:14 [Message] speck_chaser: really, i think i'll have time to actually

start breaking that open around here

2006-11-08 20:25:22 [Message] FCPWLLC: I gotta 1.8 shurflo catching dust Thad

2006-11-08 20:25:27 [Message] speck_chaser: stop making fun of me just because I suck

2006-11-08 20:25:29 [Message] squirtgun: I'm going to rebuild our rig the winter,the SH

and other chems have beat the paint pretty bad

2006-11-08 20:25:31 [Message] speck_chaser: lol

2006-11-08 20:25:36 [Message] donphelps: It should be a great market for it....much like

FL

2006-11-08 20:25:51 [Message] speck_chaser: how much fer taht 1.8? email me if you want.

2006-11-08 20:25:52 [Message] squirtgun: Thinking about powder coating the whole thing

2006-11-08 20:26:08 [Message] FCPWLLC: Rhino liner

2006-11-08 20:26:16 [Message] speck_chaser: oh, the roofs that didn't get blown off are

sirty but no one has heard of cleaning them

2006-11-08 20:26:33 [Message] squirtgun: we have the same problen here Thad

2006-11-08 20:26:38 [Message] speck_chaser: yeah

2006-11-08 20:26:47 [Message] donphelps: I saw JL's trailer when he picked it up in ORL

and they had coated it with Line-X.....It looked great.

2006-11-08 20:26:50 [Message] DAVIDv: Then send me the wand LOL

2006-11-08 20:26:59 [Message] speck_chaser: got to wait for the FL people to get sick of

FL and move here

2006-11-08 20:27:00 [Message] squirtgun: one other company pffers roof cleaning,but they

use sodiumhydrox

2006-11-08 20:27:10 [Message] speck_chaser: yuck

2006-11-08 20:27:27 [Message] speck_chaser: i actually have some stuff to get lined up

once I get the rig running

2006-11-08 20:27:28 [Message] FCPWLLC: Sounds like too much work

2006-11-08 20:27:43 [Message] donphelps: What ratios do you guys usually mix at?

2006-11-08 20:27:49 [Message] speck_chaser: just need to get off my behind

2006-11-08 20:27:57 [Message] donphelps: lol, so do it.

2006-11-08 20:28:04 [Message] speck_chaser: i know

2006-11-08 20:28:20 [Message] FCPWLLC: I have been doing 1 sh to 2 water but thining I

gan go weaker

2006-11-08 20:28:22 [Message] speck_chaser: i said i have time to get it now.

2006-11-08 20:28:31 [Message] DAVIDv: No one offers here...this summer was real bad for

mold

2006-11-08 20:28:35 [Message] squirtgun: I xjet roof so I end up with 3:1 pulling

straight SH from a 5 gallon bucket

2006-11-08 20:28:45 [Message] squirtgun: maybe 4% hitting the roof

2006-11-08 20:28:46 [Message] speck_chaser: straight 12%?

2006-11-08 20:28:52 [Message] speck_chaser: ok

2006-11-08 20:28:52 [Message] squirtgun: yes

2006-11-08 20:29:20 [Message] donphelps: We used to mix stronger, but the JB's put out

pretty decent flow so we mix weaker to compensate.

2006-11-08 20:29:23 [Message] speck_chaser: don, if you send me the wand i solemnly swear

to use it.

2006-11-08 20:29:48 [Message] donphelps: lol....It's going out this week if all goes

well.

2006-11-08 20:29:49 [Message] speck_chaser: lower chem ratio and higher flow.... sounds

familiar!

2006-11-08 20:29:51 [Message] FCPWLLC: The JB's flow and psi are?

2006-11-08 20:30:23 [Message] speck_chaser: hard question, apparently

2006-11-08 20:30:29 [Message] donphelps: 4gpm and we have ours set at about 125 psi, but

the can go higher

2006-11-08 20:30:35 [Message] speck_chaser: wow

2006-11-08 20:30:46 [Message] speck_chaser: that there'll shore shoot it

2006-11-08 20:30:50 [Message] squirtgun: Don will tell you that xjetting is way hard and

I agree,but we don't do that many roofs so I haven't spent the money

2006-11-08 20:30:51 [Message] FCPWLLC: cool What size tip are you using?

2006-11-08 20:31:31 [Message] speck_chaser: ....

2006-11-08 20:31:35 [Message] donphelps: It's hard for Scott to justify anything

different for the most part.

2006-11-08 20:31:43 [Message] speck_chaser: proprietary info, mike

2006-11-08 20:32:04 [Message] FCPWLLC: I am using a 0040 with the 5.3 Delavan. Any

smaller and the pump cycles on and off too much

2006-11-08 20:32:17 [Message] donphelps: We use #6530's and #8030's usually

2006-11-08 20:32:19 [Message] speck_chaser: how far will it shoot?

2006-11-08 20:32:32 [Message] donphelps: sorry...dogs are hounding me, lol

2006-11-08 20:32:49 [Message] speck_chaser: hounds are dogging you

2006-11-08 20:32:55 [Message] FCPWLLC: about 35 feet horizontal but maybe 20 vertical

2006-11-08 20:33:02 [Message] donphelps: What size fittings are you using, Mike?

2006-11-08 20:33:05 [Message] squirtgun: what's up girlz?give him heck

2006-11-08 20:33:07 [Message] speck_chaser: mine finally went to watch tv with judy

2006-11-08 20:33:24 [Message] speck_chaser: they like the decorating channel better than

roof chats

2006-11-08 20:33:28 [Message] FCPWLLC: 3/8 hose

2006-11-08 20:33:33 [Message] speck_chaser: dogs are dumb

2006-11-08 20:33:41 [Message] FCPWLLC: 1/4 tips

2006-11-08 20:34:14 [Message] speck_chaser: what were you getting with the 1.8?

2006-11-08 20:34:15 [Message] donphelps: Put 3/8" sockets/plugs on there and it might get

rid of the cycling.

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2006-11-08 20:34:29 [Message] pressureprosinc: finally

2006-11-08 20:34:33 [Message] donphelps: Hi Ken

2006-11-08 20:34:39 [Message] speck_chaser: shh, he's here

2006-11-08 20:34:45 [Message] pressureprosinc: hiya Don.. how is everyone?

2006-11-08 20:34:48 [Message] speck_chaser: hi ken

2006-11-08 20:35:03 [Message] DAVIDv: Hi Ken

2006-11-08 20:35:10 [Message] squirtgun: see I told you they didn't kill kenny

2006-11-08 20:35:13 [Message] speck_chaser: <crickets>

2006-11-08 20:35:15 [Message] squirtgun: hi Ken

2006-11-08 20:35:20 [Message] FCPWLLC: the 1.8 would shoot 20+ but with a 0010 tip and

very weak stream that was slave to wind

2006-11-08 20:35:23 [Message] donphelps: good....just chatting it up.

2006-11-08 20:35:28 [Message] pressureprosinc: sorry about the late arrival.. I nearly

committed hari kari trying to access this thing

2006-11-08 20:35:40 [Message] donphelps: Yeah, a 1.8 isn'y going to do much shooting

2006-11-08 20:35:48 [Message] donphelps: lol

2006-11-08 20:36:10 [Message] speck_chaser: *)

2006-11-08 20:36:21 [Message] FCPWLLC: the 5.3 is much better. Just need to see how long

it will last

2006-11-08 20:36:41 [Message] speck_chaser: i need to move somewhere that has horizontal

roofs

2006-11-08 20:36:51 [Message] FCPWLLC: lol

2006-11-08 20:36:53 [Message] speck_chaser: not these 12/12 monstrosities

2006-11-08 20:37:00 [Message] pressureprosinc: amen

2006-11-08 20:37:08 [Message] squirtgun: shoot them from the eaves on teh ladder

2006-11-08 20:37:11 [Message] speck_chaser: some are 15/12

2006-11-08 20:37:17 [Message] speck_chaser: yeah

2006-11-08 20:37:33 [Message] speck_chaser: i posted some pics a while back

2006-11-08 20:37:41 [Message] pressureprosinc: so what is the consensus on asphalt

shingles? Rinse/no rinse?

2006-11-08 20:37:49 [Message] FCPWLLC: rinse

2006-11-08 20:37:50 [Message] squirtgun: rinse

2006-11-08 20:38:07 [Message] FCPWLLC: Control your run off

2006-11-08 20:38:09 [Message] speck_chaser: it'll rain soon

2006-11-08 20:38:17 [Message] speck_chaser: :D

2006-11-08 20:38:28 [Message] pressureprosinc: Thats another issue Mike... the main

reason I shy away from doing roofs

2006-11-08 20:38:34 [Message] donphelps: Time for another free wand....First person to

email me at allseasonsexteriors@gmail.com with "The Wand" in the header wins.

2006-11-08 20:39:02 [Message] speck_chaser: haha

2006-11-08 20:39:11 [Message] donphelps: We rinse ours always if they're shingle

2006-11-08 20:39:32 [Message] donphelps: you can't win, Thad...lol

2006-11-08 20:39:38 [Message] speck_chaser: :D

2006-11-08 20:39:45 [Message] speck_chaser: o can be first, though

2006-11-08 20:39:59 [Message] donphelps: as far as you know....lol

2006-11-08 20:40:05 [Message] speck_chaser: i'm a little competitive

2006-11-08 20:40:21 [Message] squirtgun: second palce is first loser

2006-11-08 20:40:25 [Message] speck_chaser: have you ever had a problem from not rinsing?

2006-11-08 20:40:27 [Message] squirtgun: place

2006-11-08 20:40:52 [Message] donphelps: David Vicars just got himself another

wand.....Congrats Dave!

2006-11-08 20:40:53 [Message] speck_chaser: any horror stories of shingles curling up

live autumn leaves?

2006-11-08 20:41:05 [Message] pressureprosinc: By the time I switch browser windows, sign

in and get my email to you I should be the first email for next month's chat

2006-11-08 20:41:19 [Message] DAVIDv: Thanks Don

2006-11-08 20:41:20 [Message] FCPWLLC: lol

2006-11-08 20:41:20 [Message] pressureprosinc: Go Dave!

2006-11-08 20:41:22 [Message] donphelps: I've seen some that were already curled up

before I got there

2006-11-08 20:41:32 [Message] speck_chaser: did you pass on the job?

2006-11-08 20:41:36 [Message] donphelps: You're welcome, Sir!

2006-11-08 20:41:37 [Message] squirtgun: You clean those?

2006-11-08 20:41:49 [Message] FCPWLLC: I tried just clicking on his email address and it

logs you out

2006-11-08 20:42:07 [Message] squirtgun: Mobile home shingles are bad about curling like

that

2006-11-08 20:42:14 [Message] donphelps: I'll clean them if it's otherwise safe, but

there's some serious language in the estimate

2006-11-08 20:42:14 [Message] speck_chaser: you have to make this face when you click :o

2006-11-08 20:42:15 [Message] FCPWLLC: lol

2006-11-08 20:42:16 [Message] pressureprosinc: thats why I went to a different window...

here is another age old debate...

2006-11-08 20:42:31 [Message] pressureprosinc: the guy I have coming out tommorrow is

using sodium hydroxide

2006-11-08 20:42:34 [Message] pressureprosinc: thoughts?

2006-11-08 20:42:39 [Message] squirtgun: we just tell them we can't do them and suggest a

new roof

2006-11-08 20:42:40 [Message] speck_chaser: on your house?

2006-11-08 20:42:48 [Message] squirtgun: how oldis teh roof Ken?

2006-11-08 20:42:52 [Message] donphelps: I

2006-11-08 20:42:54 [Message] FCPWLLC: It's his profit margin going down the drain

2006-11-08 20:42:59 [Message] pressureprosinc: I'm guessing about 15

2006-11-08 20:43:06 [Message] speck_chaser: and a lot of tar, too

2006-11-08 20:43:08 [Message] pressureprosinc: I agre Mike

2006-11-08 20:43:14 [Message] donphelps: My 'puter keeps sticking

2006-11-08 20:43:19 [Message] squirtgun: a lot of pressure for a roof that old

2006-11-08 20:43:25 [Message] squirtgun: expect granule loss

2006-11-08 20:43:36 [Message] speck_chaser: wait til you see the molasses pouring off the

roof

2006-11-08 20:43:43 [Message] donphelps: We'll clean them, but there's a lot of language

in the estimate about it first

2006-11-08 20:43:45 [Message] pressureprosinc: Thats my feeling. I got his GL cert

2006-11-08 20:43:47 [Message] FCPWLLC: Check his insurance

2006-11-08 20:44:08 [Message] pressureprosinc: Faxed fresh from his agent

2006-11-08 20:44:13 [Message] squirtgun: it;s nota pretty sight when the coffe start to

run

2006-11-08 20:44:18 [Message] speck_chaser: i bet he has a lot of 'strong language in the

estimate'

2006-11-08 20:44:24 [Disconnect] donphelps

2006-11-08 20:44:28 [Message] speck_chaser: to cover it

2006-11-08 20:44:44 [Login] donphelps

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2006-11-08 20:44:50 [Message] speck_chaser: uh-oh. don was using naoh.

2006-11-08 20:44:53 [Message] squirtgun: welcome back host

2006-11-08 20:44:57 [Message] pressureprosinc: He swears his method is better via

extensive testing

2006-11-08 20:45:09 [Message] pressureprosinc: wb Don

2006-11-08 20:45:18 [Message] donphelps: lol...this isn't good. keyboard keeps going

crazy

2006-11-08 20:45:25 [Message] speck_chaser: who did the testing, ken?

2006-11-08 20:45:29 [Message] donphelps: glad I could make it....lol

2006-11-08 20:45:38 [Message] speck_chaser: i'll bet is was a roofing co.

2006-11-08 20:45:48 [Message] speck_chaser: ;)

2006-11-08 20:45:53 [Message] squirtgun: I have done roofs both ways,and sodium hydrox

is much harder

2006-11-08 20:46:04 [Message] speck_chaser: and damaging

2006-11-08 20:46:10 [Message] squirtgun: i agree

2006-11-08 20:46:14 [Message] pressureprosinc: He did, Speck (Scott?)

2006-11-08 20:46:27 [Message] speck_chaser: i didn't scot

2006-11-08 20:46:34 [Message] speck_chaser: what?

2006-11-08 20:46:40 [Message] squirtgun: huh?

2006-11-08 20:46:40 [Message] pressureprosinc: whats your first name I forget

2006-11-08 20:46:49 [Message] squirtgun: Thad is his name

2006-11-08 20:46:50 [Message] FCPWLLC: The reason for the pressure waher is due to the

fact that the Sodium Hydroxide doesn't work. It only softens up the asphalt to help when

using "moderate" pressure

2006-11-08 20:46:52 [Message] donphelps: It makes a great degreaser though, lol

2006-11-08 20:46:58 [Message] pressureprosinc: Thad thats right I'm sorry

2006-11-08 20:47:04 [Message] speck_chaser: oh, me

2006-11-08 20:47:17 [Message] pressureprosinc: I was answering whom did the testing

2006-11-08 20:47:19 [Message] speck_chaser: i thought you were having a seizure

2006-11-08 20:47:25 [Message] squirtgun: lol

2006-11-08 20:47:27 [Message] pressureprosinc: lol

2006-11-08 20:47:40 [Message] speck_chaser: ptang! ptang!

2006-11-08 20:47:46 [Message] donphelps: I feel like I'm having one....wrong time for

'puter probs here

2006-11-08 20:47:54 [Message] squirtgun: ken make hi clean the gutter first,then have a

look after he cleans the roof

2006-11-08 20:47:56 [Message] pressureprosinc: I swear I don't have Terets

2006-11-08 20:48:03 [Message] donphelps: lol

2006-11-08 20:48:20 [Message] pressureprosinc: I unfrotunately don't have the luxury of

staying at that jobsite tommorow

2006-11-08 20:48:30 [Message] speck_chaser: uh-oh

2006-11-08 20:48:36 [Message] squirtgun: the granules in the gutters will shock you

2006-11-08 20:48:42 [Message] speck_chaser: yep

2006-11-08 20:49:05 [Message] pressureprosinc: I don't want to mention him by name, but

you guys know him especially those of you that post at TCN

2006-11-08 20:49:08 [Message] donphelps: So, what's the most hairy or difficult roof

cleaning you've ever done....anybody?

2006-11-08 20:49:09 [Message] speck_chaser: and all the lovely brown sludge and foam

2006-11-08 20:49:29 [Message] speck_chaser: the ones i'm whining about and haven't done

yet

2006-11-08 20:49:34 [Message] FCPWLLC: G

2006-11-08 20:49:59 [Message] FCPWLLC: Chocolate town

2006-11-08 20:50:00 [Message] donphelps: I've done a few tile that left me shaking like a

leaf back in the day.

2006-11-08 20:50:28 [Message] pressureprosinc: Don, those barel tiles you guys have down

there would freak me a little

2006-11-08 20:50:28 [Grant Admin] bethnrod: donphelps

2006-11-08 20:50:29 [Message] speck_chaser: i have decided that life is too short and

precious to skate on top of someone's house

2006-11-08 20:50:51 [Message] speck_chaser: i don't do stuff i used to

2006-11-08 20:50:59 [Message] donphelps: Let's talk roofs and not people. This

transcript will be posted tomorrow.

2006-11-08 20:51:33 [Message] pressureprosinc: Yeah thats true, Don. I have faith in the

man or I wouldn't have gone ahead

2006-11-08 20:51:40 [Message] donphelps: Yeah Ken, they're a little crazy at times but

it's like anything else....You get used to it.

2006-11-08 20:52:01 [Message] donphelps: Tile I mean, lol

2006-11-08 20:52:08 [Message] pressureprosinc: hahaha

2006-11-08 20:52:24 [Message] speck_chaser: man, you guys keep losing me on these left

turns

2006-11-08 20:52:43 [Message] donphelps: We're 'Freestyle' around here!

2006-11-08 20:52:52 [Message] speck_chaser: lol

2006-11-08 20:52:57 [Message] FCPWLLC: Keep up Thad

2006-11-08 20:53:02 [Message] speck_chaser: no chance

2006-11-08 20:53:06 [Message] FCPWLLC: lol

2006-11-08 20:53:10 [Message] donphelps: Roof cleaners are usually a little left of

center...lol

2006-11-08 20:53:12 [Message] speck_chaser: unless it's an email race

2006-11-08 20:53:18 [Message] speck_chaser: then i'm first!

2006-11-08 20:53:19 [Message] FCPWLLC: lol

2006-11-08 20:53:23 [Message] FCPWLLC: touche

2006-11-08 20:53:34 [Message] speck_chaser: other than that i'm useless

2006-11-08 20:54:15 [Message] squirtgun: you said it not us

2006-11-08 20:54:19 [Message] speck_chaser: who posted an electric pump a while back that

was in the low $1G range?

2006-11-08 20:54:27 [Message] donphelps: If we got to 25 people in the chat, I was

considering giving a JB away......But?

2006-11-08 20:54:41 [Message] squirtgun: well darn

2006-11-08 20:54:48 [Message] pressureprosinc: whats a JB

2006-11-08 20:54:50 [Message] FCPWLLC: now you tell us

2006-11-08 20:54:55 [Message] squirtgun: John Blue

2006-11-08 20:55:00 [Message] pressureprosinc: john blue?

2006-11-08 20:55:00 [Message] donphelps: maybe next time.....we'll see.

2006-11-08 20:55:04 [Message] pressureprosinc: gotcha

2006-11-08 20:55:05 [Message] FCPWLLC: Not a BJ

2006-11-08 20:55:09 [Message] speck_chaser: oops

2006-11-08 20:55:10 [Message] pressureprosinc: lol mike

2006-11-08 20:55:17 [Message] donphelps: John Blue chlorine pumps

2006-11-08 20:55:30 [Message] pressureprosinc: I have heard Chris mention those

2006-11-08 20:55:34 [Message] speck_chaser: don will be very specific in the future

2006-11-08 20:55:38 [Message] pressureprosinc: or read about them i should say

2006-11-08 20:55:43 [Message] squirtgun: I would clean vinyl with a JB also

2006-11-08 20:55:49 [Message] FCPWLLC: You can tell who has T1 connections

2006-11-08 20:55:55 [Message] pressureprosinc: flow and pressure?

2006-11-08 20:56:13 [Message] donphelps: I have 5 and have never had a problem other that

pressure regulators going out.

2006-11-08 20:56:19 [Message] FCPWLLC: I could clean vinyl with my Delavan

2006-11-08 20:56:35 [Message] pressureprosinc: You still loving that pump, Mike?

2006-11-08 20:56:36 [Message] speck_chaser: i bet it would be good for stucco

2006-11-08 20:56:42 [Message] FCPWLLC: yep

2006-11-08 20:56:52 [Message] FCPWLLC: as long as it wil last

2006-11-08 20:56:59 [Message] speck_chaser: dryvit, i should say

2006-11-08 20:57:10 [Disconnect] DAVIDv

2006-11-08 20:57:11 [Message] speck_chaser: 5 gpm?

2006-11-08 20:57:17 [Message] FCPWLLC: 5.3

2006-11-08 20:57:21 [Message] FCPWLLC: lol

2006-11-08 20:57:41 [Message] speck_chaser: that .3 is critical

2006-11-08 20:57:49 [Message] squirtgun: 5800 series or 7800 series

2006-11-08 20:57:49 [Message] FCPWLLC: yep

2006-11-08 20:57:54 [Message] pressureprosinc: gets Michale an extra 2.4 feet

2006-11-08 20:58:04 [Message] FCPWLLC: 7800

2006-11-08 20:58:12 [Message] donphelps: Those Delavans are probably going to be good

pumps for residential work.

2006-11-08 20:58:16 [Message] squirtgun: 100 psi

2006-11-08 20:58:21 [Message] FCPWLLC: 60

2006-11-08 20:58:49 [Message] squirtgun: that was a great find Mike

2006-11-08 20:58:58 [Message] pressureprosinc: Do you guys walk the roof whenever

possible and rinse with a flood nozle or just get water up there?

2006-11-08 20:59:05 [Message] squirtgun: it looks liek a tough pump

2006-11-08 20:59:22 [Message] speck_chaser: who said they got one for 30 bucks on ebay?

2006-11-08 20:59:30 [Message] FCPWLLC: For the money, I am considering it a throw away if

it can get 10+ roofs

2006-11-08 20:59:31 [Message] donphelps: We walk them when possible and rinse with a fire

nozzle or the 8 gpm pw.

2006-11-08 20:59:38 [Message] squirtgun: I like scarrinh teh wife so I walk all I can

2006-11-08 20:59:50 [Message] pressureprosinc: LOL Scott

2006-11-08 20:59:58 [Message] pressureprosinc: How are your ankles holding up?

2006-11-08 21:00:03 [Message] squirtgun: I haven't fallen off one,but I have fell on a

few

2006-11-08 21:00:23 [Message] speck_chaser: ouch

2006-11-08 21:00:30 [Message] donphelps: That's the good thing about 12v

pumps...completely paid for and disposable after a few roofs.

2006-11-08 21:00:47 [Message] squirtgun: They have been carrying around all this weight

for so long they don't notice

2006-11-08 21:00:55 [Message] pressureprosinc: Don what size cell do you use to power

your 12V's?

2006-11-08 21:00:58 [Message] FCPWLLC: exactly.... if you're pricing roofs right

2006-11-08 21:01:01 [Message] donphelps: My ankles bother me if I do several in a day or

if they're steep.

2006-11-08 21:01:06 [Message] pressureprosinc: Scott, you crack me up man

2006-11-08 21:01:12 [Message] squirtgun: you are old

2006-11-08 21:01:23 [Message] donphelps: We use a group 27 deep cycle with 115 amp hours

2006-11-08 21:01:28 [Message] speck_chaser: i've got one really bad ankle and two bad

knees

2006-11-08 21:01:49 [Message] speck_chaser: sucks to be me

2006-11-08 21:01:53 [Message] FCPWLLC: <--- deep cycle marine

2006-11-08 21:02:25 [Message] speck_chaser: what kind of tank do you residential guys

use?

2006-11-08 21:02:36 [Message] speck_chaser: any particular one seem better?

2006-11-08 21:02:37 [Message] pressureprosinc: for chems?

2006-11-08 21:02:39 [Message] donphelps: I rarely ever use a 12v anymore, but that's how

we did'would do it.

2006-11-08 21:02:41 [Message] speck_chaser: yeah

2006-11-08 21:02:48 [Message] squirtgun: <---Titanium implant in neck and the left

fott os trying to rot off,but i'll still walk one

2006-11-08 21:02:49 [Message] FCPWLLC: I am using a 35 gallon chem drum poly

2006-11-08 21:02:58 [Message] pressureprosinc: 100 Gallon

2006-11-08 21:03:07 [Message] pressureprosinc: (only for roofs)

2006-11-08 21:03:22 [Message] speck_chaser: oh, i didn't think you did roofs

2006-11-08 21:03:28 [Message] FCPWLLC: Will be moving to 110 soon

2006-11-08 21:03:35 [Message] pressureprosinc: I do about ten a year

2006-11-08 21:03:42 [Message] speck_chaser: do you use a clear one or a UV resistant

tank?

2006-11-08 21:03:45 [Message] donphelps: We have a 125 on the pw trailer for roofs and

the commercial roof trailer has 2 325's and a 225 in it.

2006-11-08 21:03:50 [Message] pressureprosinc: its slow and I hate them

2006-11-08 21:04:02 [Message] speck_chaser: slow? and you do decks?

2006-11-08 21:04:15 [Message] speck_chaser: irony meter goes through the roof...

2006-11-08 21:04:21 [Message] speck_chaser: :D

2006-11-08 21:04:27 [Message] pressureprosinc: My tank is the opaque kind.. it gets

loaded with that days job suuply only

2006-11-08 21:04:27 [Message] donphelps: lol

2006-11-08 21:04:33 [Message] FCPWLLC: Don, coming to ACR round?

2006-11-08 21:04:46 [Message] squirtgun: brb

2006-11-08 21:04:55 [Message] speck_chaser: beer run?

2006-11-08 21:05:02 [Message] donphelps: I wanted to, but it's not looking good.....Beth

and I were talking about that earlier.

2006-11-08 21:05:03 [Message] pressureprosinc: Chad, roofs, slowwwwww... Decks I'll wipe

your behind up and hand you back the towel

2006-11-08 21:05:20 [Message] donphelps: It's Thad

2006-11-08 21:05:24 [Login] russjohnson

2006-11-08 21:05:24 [iP] russjohnson: 74.130.68.184

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2006-11-08 21:05:28 [Login] DAVIDv

2006-11-08 21:05:28 [iP] DAVIDv: 71.79.132.172

2006-11-08 21:05:28 [Join Room] DAVIDv:

2006-11-08 21:05:33 [Message] donphelps: Hey Russ

2006-11-08 21:05:35 [Message] pressureprosinc: Chad, my bad

2006-11-08 21:05:42 [Message] speck_chaser: funny

2006-11-08 21:05:46 [Message] donphelps: Welcome back David

2006-11-08 21:05:50 [Message] speck_chaser: Chen

2006-11-08 21:05:51 [Message] FCPWLLC: F*** decks.... I'd rather send 'em to RAD and

forget it.

2006-11-08 21:06:00 [Message] pressureprosinc: you and me both, Mike

2006-11-08 21:06:00 [Message] speck_chaser: yep

2006-11-08 21:06:11 [Message] pressureprosinc: Hey Russ

2006-11-08 21:06:11 [Message] DAVIDv: thanks...lost connection...had to power down

2006-11-08 21:06:19 [Message] donphelps: bummer

2006-11-08 21:06:19 [Message] russjohnson: HI. How's it going? I just popped in to make

sure I could work this...lol

2006-11-08 21:06:22 [Message] speck_chaser: how many trips does it take you to do a roof,

ken?

2006-11-08 21:06:39 [Message] pressureprosinc: You mean as in do some and leave?

2006-11-08 21:06:44 [Message] donphelps: You got it.....I'm going to try to attend your

chat next week too.

2006-11-08 21:06:55 [Message] russjohnson: cool...

2006-11-08 21:06:57 [Message] FCPWLLC: someone go tell 25 friends that Don's giving away

a JB

2006-11-08 21:07:12 [Message] pressureprosinc: I add them onto housewashes .. when i say

slow I mean it might take 4-5 hours for a decent sized one

2006-11-08 21:07:15 [Message] donphelps: lol....too late now, maybe next time

2006-11-08 21:07:24 [Message] speck_chaser: i mean if it takes you longer to do a roof

than to do a deck you must be using a squirt bottle

2006-11-08 21:07:37 [Message] squirtgun: Yeah,he going to give it to me for a birthday

present.......................................................NOT

2006-11-08 21:07:44 [Message] FCPWLLC: or Hydroxide

2006-11-08 21:07:59 [Message] speck_chaser: yeah, maybe that's it

2006-11-08 21:08:04 [Message] FCPWLLC: lol

2006-11-08 21:08:06 [Message] speck_chaser: NaOH

2006-11-08 21:08:18 [Message] speck_chaser: with a paintbrush

2006-11-08 21:08:26 [Message] squirtgun: toothnrush

2006-11-08 21:08:29 [Message] donphelps: Actually I'm planning to give you one of my SF's

on the way through Mayberry, Scott.

2006-11-08 21:08:31 [Message] FCPWLLC: Roller

2006-11-08 21:08:35 [Message] pressureprosinc: Chad, you know what it is.. If I am up

there, I am hating every minute of it so to me it sems way too long.. when I hear about

guys banging out roofs in 1 hour I figure I am doing something wrong

2006-11-08 21:08:42 [Message] squirtgun: LOL

2006-11-08 21:08:50 [Message] donphelps: I am!

2006-11-08 21:08:51 [Message] speck_chaser: it's still Thad, Chen

2006-11-08 21:08:59 [Message] FCPWLLC: lol

2006-11-08 21:09:01 [Message] squirtgun: hey it's small town nowhere,but I call it home

2006-11-08 21:09:03 [Message] FCPWLLC: Chad

2006-11-08 21:09:18 [Message] speck_chaser: what?

2006-11-08 21:09:18 [Message] pressureprosinc: I better stick with Speck. this is the

late hour of brain dead

2006-11-08 21:09:33 [Message] donphelps: Let's make a 'man law' and change his name to

Chad

2006-11-08 21:09:36 [Message] FCPWLLC: Ken, you get those domains?

2006-11-08 21:09:36 [Message] speck_chaser: Oh, man. now i'm answering to it

2006-11-08 21:09:40 [Message] squirtgun: Man Law

2006-11-08 21:10:02 [Message] donphelps: anybody else?

2006-11-08 21:10:03 [Message] pressureprosinc: yes Mike, I did. thank you for the

registrtion heads up

2006-11-08 21:10:04 [Message] speck_chaser: it's better than %^&head which is my usual

nickname

2006-11-08 21:10:12 [Message] squirtgun: lol

2006-11-08 21:10:27 [Message] pressureprosinc: Mine too, Thad/Chad.. I do apologize

bro... I am beat

2006-11-08 21:10:35 [Message] FCPWLLC: I picked up roofcleanersofamerica.com that night

2006-11-08 21:10:36 [Message] speck_chaser: so, UV resistant tanks for everyone?

2006-11-08 21:10:39 [Message] squirtgun: I hear that a lot too CHAD

2006-11-08 21:10:52 [Message] speck_chaser: no problemo, Chott.

2006-11-08 21:11:08 [Message] pressureprosinc: People are gonna be real sorry this missed

this chat LOL

2006-11-08 21:11:12 [Message] donphelps: Next person to email me at

allseasonsexteriors@gmail.com with "I Clean Roofs" wins a PVC Roof Wand!

2006-11-08 21:11:13 [Message] pressureprosinc: they*

2006-11-08 21:11:15 [Message] squirtgun: SHREK is the nickname

2006-11-08 21:11:28 [Message] donphelps: no previous winners please!

2006-11-08 21:11:51 [Message] speck_chaser: rofl

2006-11-08 21:12:06 [Message] speck_chaser: just let me know if i'm first

2006-11-08 21:12:06 [Message] squirtgun: or the name the wife calls me..............Satan

2006-11-08 21:12:18 [Message] donphelps: SquirtGun wins the wand....Congrats Scotty!

2006-11-08 21:12:50 [Message] FCPWLLC: wow , I even had mine on standby

2006-11-08 21:12:55 [Message] squirtgun: Thank You,Thank You...I would like to thank the

roof cleaning academy and my friend Don

2006-11-08 21:12:57 [Message] speck_chaser: i demand a replay

2006-11-08 21:13:02 [Message] donphelps: apparently so did he...lol

2006-11-08 21:13:09 [Message] DAVIDv: My wife calls me Honey I need

2006-11-08 21:13:16 [Message] pressureprosinc: Boooo, throwing egs at Quick Draw McScott

2006-11-08 21:13:17 [Message] FCPWLLC: with a T1 connection

2006-11-08 21:13:22 [Message] FCPWLLC: lol

2006-11-08 21:13:25 [Message] squirtgun: Your wife must not work with you David

2006-11-08 21:13:28 [Message] donphelps: My wife doesn't call me....lol

2006-11-08 21:13:39 [Message] DAVIDv: no

2006-11-08 21:13:48 [Message] speck_chaser: Apparently my name is, "Oh, you're back..."

2006-11-08 21:13:55 [Message] DAVIDv: lol

2006-11-08 21:13:56 [Message] donphelps: actually, I have a great wife.....She's just

usually very busy.

2006-11-08 21:13:59 [Message] squirtgun: Ah,see if she worked with you it would be

different

2006-11-08 21:14:21 [Message] FCPWLLC: Tsp or no tsp?

2006-11-08 21:14:23 [Message] squirtgun: Yeah,she is great Don...we like her

2006-11-08 21:14:33 [Message] squirtgun: never tried it Mike

2006-11-08 21:14:44 [Message] speck_chaser: my wife went with me once, declared me a

'meany' and we don't have that delimna anymore

2006-11-08 21:14:51 [Message] donphelps: Mine has worked with me a few times, but she's

tire of me shooting her in the face with SH from the roof.

2006-11-08 21:15:09 [Message] FCPWLLC: I've been tossing in some Simple cherry on steep

roofs

2006-11-08 21:15:10 [Message] speck_chaser: good times, you must still be honeymoonin'

2006-11-08 21:15:23 [Message] donphelps: I don't use it, but it's a personal preference

thing and I can see why some would.

2006-11-08 21:15:27 [Message] speck_chaser: Simple Cherry really kills the chlorine smell

2006-11-08 21:15:39 [Message] squirtgun: or making her clean the Chik-fil-a while you

talk to me on the phone..........lol

2006-11-08 21:15:59 [Message] DAVIDv: lol

2006-11-08 21:16:10 [Message] donphelps: She helped clean CF when I broke my hand last

year....She's a trooper.

2006-11-08 21:16:41 [Message] squirtgun: Ih ad mine up a a roof,but that lasted all of 2

minutes

2006-11-08 21:16:50 [Message] squirtgun: she would rather pull hoses and mix chems

2006-11-08 21:16:51 [Message] donphelps: I think Russ got put to sleep with the roof

stuff....lol

2006-11-08 21:17:16 [Message] speck_chaser: honestly, i wouldn't want my wife to come to

work with me- she would freak if she saw what I do

2006-11-08 21:17:17 [Message] DAVIDv: She just had neck surgery 3 weeks ago...No I didn't

cause it

2006-11-08 21:17:41 [Message] squirtgun: hey mine is an equal partner so eqaul work

2006-11-08 21:17:47 [Message] squirtgun: I love womens lib

2006-11-08 21:17:50 [Message] DAVIDv: there you go

2006-11-08 21:18:26 [Message] squirtgun: besides she isn't hard on the eyes either

2006-11-08 21:18:27 [Message] DAVIDv: I would like her to go a couple times

2006-11-08 21:18:32 [Message] russjohnson: just sittin' here soaking it all in...what

roof stuff, anyway...I've seen names change and wives recruited...but...

2006-11-08 21:18:33 [Message] speck_chaser: Russ is snoring. Let's put his hand in warm

water!

2006-11-08 21:19:01 [Message] donphelps: I'll take Julie to the larger apartment jobs we

do, usually a few weeks later just to show her where and how it turned out and she trips

at what we walk and how high some of them are.

2006-11-08 21:19:07 [Message] russjohnson: caught ya speck...

2006-11-08 21:19:10 [Message] squirtgun: put Nair in his hand and tickle his ear

2006-11-08 21:19:34 [Message] DAVIDv: that's not right

2006-11-08 21:19:38 [Message] DAVIDv: lol

2006-11-08 21:19:50 [Message] russjohnson: I don't have much hair anyway...

2006-11-08 21:20:12 [Message] squirtgun: I could hear the brass knocking together all the

way up here on this last one Don

2006-11-08 21:20:13 [Message] donphelps: How did you guys clean your first roof ever? I

used a pump up......After that, life changed fast.

2006-11-08 21:20:13 [Message] speck_chaser: somebody get a magic marker

2006-11-08 21:20:23 [Message] donphelps: That was quite a while back though.

2006-11-08 21:20:26 [Message] speck_chaser: pump up

2006-11-08 21:20:32 [Message] speck_chaser: never again!

2006-11-08 21:20:38 [Message] FCPWLLC: Shurflo and Phelps wand.

2006-11-08 21:20:44 [Message] speck_chaser: suckup

2006-11-08 21:20:48 [Message] speck_chaser: :D

2006-11-08 21:20:51 [Message] FCPWLLC: lol

2006-11-08 21:20:52 [Message] squirtgun: Pump-up,xjetting sodium hydrox now ,xjetting the

love

2006-11-08 21:21:06 [Message] donphelps: be careful.....those labels get me attacked,

lol.

2006-11-08 21:21:14 [Message] speck_chaser: for an excercise in futility, try

downstreaming a roof

2006-11-08 21:21:43 [Message] squirtgun: you never know until you try Thad

2006-11-08 21:21:51 [Message] speck_chaser: oh, we tried.

2006-11-08 21:22:08 [Message] speck_chaser: it wasn't my idea, and mannnnnnnnn did it

suck

2006-11-08 21:22:29 [Message] speck_chaser: right after that i started searching and

found TGS

2006-11-08 21:22:31 [Message] donphelps: I tried using a roller pump shortly after that

and it worked for a while, but they fail too often for my taste.

2006-11-08 21:22:35 [Message] FCPWLLC: I shot a roof that was scheduled for replacement

just for fun with down-streamer.... It actually cleaned the roof but very slowly

2006-11-08 21:22:36 [Message] speck_chaser: :)

2006-11-08 21:23:13 [Message] DAVIDv: shurflo and phelps wand

2006-11-08 21:23:16 [Message] speck_chaser: yankee roof mold must be easier

2006-11-08 21:23:35 [Message] squirtgun: What about the rollers with the nylon bearings

2006-11-08 21:23:37 [Message] donphelps: I feel like I've tried most ways at some point,

but the JB's are doing everything we need them to.

2006-11-08 21:23:42 [Message] FCPWLLC: <---- good down stream methods

2006-11-08 21:24:03 [Message] russjohnson: Don, did you happen to get your Pressure Pro

catalog yet?

2006-11-08 21:24:10 [Message] donphelps: Hey David, where did Barry go? He doesn't show

up much these days.

2006-11-08 21:24:21 [Message] donphelps: No, not yet....did you?

2006-11-08 21:24:39 [Message] DAVIDv: I don't know...I called him mon. left msg

2006-11-08 21:24:56 [Message] DAVIDv: Hasn't called back

2006-11-08 21:24:59 [Message] donphelps: wow, wonder what's up?

2006-11-08 21:25:03 [Message] speck_chaser: is barry work2fish?

2006-11-08 21:25:10 [Message] donphelps: no, barry m

2006-11-08 21:25:13 [Message] DAVIDv: no BARRY M

2006-11-08 21:25:15 [Message] squirtgun: nope

2006-11-08 21:25:35 [Message] russjohnson: Yeah, they've got a gear reduction Comet

diaphragm pump in this one for a list of $888...they say it's suitable for chlorine...just

wanted your thoughts...

2006-11-08 21:25:45 [Message] donphelps: work2fish is Chris Cole from ORL.

2006-11-08 21:25:57 [Message] speck_chaser: ok, i wasn't even close

2006-11-08 21:26:08 [Message] squirtgun: how is Chris doing Don?

2006-11-08 21:26:17 [Message] donphelps: I saw one in Ryan's shop....It looks OK, but I'm

not sold on it yet.

2006-11-08 21:26:20 [Message] FCPWLLC: I saw that same pump on ultimatewasher

2006-11-08 21:26:32 [Message] DAVIDv: He's not listed here anymore

2006-11-08 21:26:58 [Message] donphelps: I'm might try one on the next commercial job

just to see how it goes.

2006-11-08 21:27:05 [Message] pressureprosinc: Hey guys.. sorry about the lurking..

phone.. I'm gonna head out. Don and everybody thank you for some great information...

Night.

2006-11-08 21:27:08 [Message] speck_chaser: yeah, that's the one i was asking about

earlier

2006-11-08 21:27:19 [Message] squirtgun: later ken

2006-11-08 21:27:20 [Message] russjohnson: How does the price compare to JB"

2006-11-08 21:27:20 [Message] speck_chaser: later, Chen.

2006-11-08 21:27:22 [Message] donphelps: Chris is good, Scott.....Saw him the other day.

2006-11-08 21:27:23 [Message] FCPWLLC: c ya ken at ACR

2006-11-08 21:27:25 [Message] speck_chaser: ;)\

2006-11-08 21:27:27 [Message] DAVIDv: later

2006-11-08 21:27:42 [Message] pressureprosinc: yuo got it.. don't work too hard..

especially yuo, Chad ;)

2006-11-08 21:27:46 [Disconnect] pressureprosinc

2006-11-08 21:28:34 [Message] donphelps: It's about $3-400 cheaper than a JB. They're

expensive but hard to beat. Mel has one that he can't break and all of mine are still

rockin' right along.

2006-11-08 21:28:56 [Message] squirtgun: Mel doens't rinse his does he?

2006-11-08 21:29:18 [Message] donphelps: He didn't last year, don't know now.

2006-11-08 21:29:23 [Message] speck_chaser: $888 is a lot cheaper than ultimatewasher

2006-11-08 21:29:38 [Message] speck_chaser: they're 1145 or 1290

2006-11-08 21:29:39 [Message] squirtgun: that speaks for what JB has put together

2006-11-08 21:29:56 [Message] FCPWLLC: Don, you ues the pump to rinse roof also?

2006-11-08 21:30:18 [Message] donphelps: Ours run all day long then we rinse them each

evening and start all over again e next day. It's hard to find pumps that can exist in a

chlorine environment like that.

2006-11-08 21:30:23 [Message] DAVIDv: What the price psf on shingle roofs

2006-11-08 21:30:42 [Message] DAVIDv: avg

2006-11-08 21:30:56 [Message] donphelps: Sometimes we do....It's a good way to flush it

and rinse at the same time.

2006-11-08 21:31:13 [Message] FCPWLLC: I'm gettin' 15 cens

2006-11-08 21:31:35 [Message] squirtgun: about the same here Mike

2006-11-08 21:31:47 [Message] speck_chaser: do you figure actul roof s.f. or use the

house s.f.?

2006-11-08 21:31:51 [Message] donphelps: Residental always gets rinsed......Commercial

depends on the situation. Shingle would be rinsed/Tile maybe, maybe not.

2006-11-08 21:31:53 [Message] FCPWLLC: hose

2006-11-08 21:31:58 [Message] FCPWLLC: house

2006-11-08 21:32:17 [Message] squirtgun: house plus a percentage

2006-11-08 21:32:33 [Message] DAVIDv: house plus pct

2006-11-08 21:32:36 [Message] squirtgun: depends on landscaping

2006-11-08 21:32:54 [Message] speck_chaser: steep roof=more s.f.

2006-11-08 21:33:13 [Message] donphelps: northern tool has some 8x32 tarps that are great

for roof cleaning. less tarps will save time.

2006-11-08 21:33:34 [Message] speck_chaser: do you add a surcharge for a really steep

roof or do you pass?

2006-11-08 21:33:41 [Message] speck_chaser: or charge the same

2006-11-08 21:33:45 [Message] FCPWLLC: We haven't been doing roofs long, so I don't know

yet how high I can go. I'll raise prices until I start losing bids.

2006-11-08 21:34:14 [Message] squirtgun: 12/12 get a hefty upcharge,lots of ladder work

and moving involved

2006-11-08 21:34:15 [Message] speck_chaser: is anyone bidding against you or are you just

bidding against what it's worth to the customer?

2006-11-08 21:34:50 [Message] donphelps: max it out then stick to your guns.....you're in

an area where you should be able to maximize price and not have to worry about too much

roof competition.

2006-11-08 21:34:56 [Message] squirtgun: no one else biddingin my case

2006-11-08 21:35:08 [Message] DAVIDv: most people here have never heard of it

2006-11-08 21:35:21 [Message] FCPWLLC: So far, I haven't seen much competition. Itry to

get top dollar for anything I do. <----- Not scared to lose bids

2006-11-08 21:35:24 [Message] speck_chaser: so you're just battling the customer's idea

of what it's worth

2006-11-08 21:35:27 [Message] donphelps: about 200 hundred bidding in my case....lol

2006-11-08 21:35:36 [Message] speck_chaser: right, don.

2006-11-08 21:35:45 [Message] speck_chaser: completely different scenario

2006-11-08 21:35:58 [Message] squirtgun: I have raised my roof prices every couple of

months and still haven't found the top,but I do find a place I feel is a good stopping

point for the roof

2006-11-08 21:36:01 [Message] donphelps: it's not really all that bad here, but they are

thick at times.

2006-11-08 21:36:19 [Message] FCPWLLC: I am selling based on comparasions of getting a

new roof

2006-11-08 21:36:31 [Message] speck_chaser: at least people have heard of roof cleaning

and know they need it.

2006-11-08 21:36:37 [Message] speck_chaser: in FL

2006-11-08 21:36:54 [Message] donphelps: The larger commercial jobs are nice because it

elements most of the comp.....They don't have the equipment or experience to bid it

usually.

2006-11-08 21:37:17 [Message] donphelps: lol...eliminates!

2006-11-08 21:37:22 [Message] squirtgun: Mike your customer must have all their teeth and

you don't have to track them down at the whiskey still to bid

2006-11-08 21:37:31 [Message] squirtgun: lol

2006-11-08 21:37:35 [Message] FCPWLLC: yes

2006-11-08 21:37:40 [Message] FCPWLLC: lol

2006-11-08 21:37:41 [Message] speck_chaser: "I am selling based on comparasions of

getting a new roof" and you don't cram it to them?

2006-11-08 21:37:56 [Message] FCPWLLC: I market to the people that can afford me

2006-11-08 21:38:15 [Message] speck_chaser: well, duh! :D

2006-11-08 21:38:20 [Message] donphelps: Thad, you talk a lot of trash for someone that

doesn't really clean roofs yet.....lol

2006-11-08 21:38:22 [Message] squirtgun: new roof on a 2000 sq ft house here $12K roof

ceaning $250ish

2006-11-08 21:38:26 [Message] speck_chaser: hahahah

2006-11-08 21:38:29 [Message] russjohnson: Heck, Scott...we're in Kentucky...just depends

on whose turn it is for the teeth...

2006-11-08 21:38:32 [Message] speck_chaser: i've cleaned a few

2006-11-08 21:38:37 [Message] speck_chaser: the hard ways

2006-11-08 21:38:42 [Message] squirtgun: lol

2006-11-08 21:38:42 [Message] DAVIDv: I'm bidding at 20 cents

2006-11-08 21:39:00 [Message] FCPWLLC: I got $375 for a 200 sqft last week... 45 minutes

2006-11-08 21:39:01 [Message] DAVIDv: I use the new roof price also

2006-11-08 21:39:06 [Message] donphelps: sliding down them on your butt doesn't count

toward 'cleaning' them...lol

2006-11-08 21:39:14 [Message] speck_chaser: "Thad, you talk a lot of trash for someone

that doesn't really clean roofs yet.....lol" I'm not taking trash, I"m learning!

2006-11-08 21:39:30 [Message] FCPWLLC: 2000

2006-11-08 21:39:42 [Message] donphelps: Are you taking notes?

2006-11-08 21:39:55 [Message] FCPWLLC: transcript notes

2006-11-08 21:40:02 [Message] FCPWLLC: for Thad

2006-11-08 21:40:05 [Message] donphelps: As Van Wilder would say...."Right that down!"

2006-11-08 21:40:08 [Message] speck_chaser: I'm asking probing questions to benefit from

those who have learned from a guru

2006-11-08 21:40:16 [Message] speck_chaser: oops

2006-11-08 21:40:17 [Message] squirtgun: cliff's notes would be better for him

2006-11-08 21:40:26 [Message] speck_chaser: draw me a pitcher!

2006-11-08 21:40:36 [Message] FCPWLLC: who's cliff? lol

2006-11-08 21:40:43 [Message] squirtgun: does he throw left handed or right?

2006-11-08 21:40:47 [Message] speck_chaser: the guy who did the notes

2006-11-08 21:41:20 [Message] donphelps: "Guru" and "Phelps Wand" always causes a

stir.....I just laugh it all off. I've never said any of that......ANYWHERE!

2006-11-08 21:41:49 [Message] speck_chaser: you forgot 'sweetheart deal'.

2006-11-08 21:41:56 [Message] speck_chaser: i'm leaving it alone now

2006-11-08 21:42:00 [Message] squirtgun: NO you haven't Don,It's a shame that you get

bashed for something I tagged you with

2006-11-08 21:42:05 [Message] speck_chaser: thanks for the free wand, guru

2006-11-08 21:42:26 [Message] russjohnson: lol

2006-11-08 21:42:34 [Message] speck_chaser: i didn't know it was your fault, scott!

2006-11-08 21:42:38 [Message] donphelps: I'm abundantly aware that I can fall of a roof

on any gien day and that in itself helps keep me grounded....no pun intended.

2006-11-08 21:42:50 [Message] FCPWLLC: lol

2006-11-08 21:42:52 [Message] speck_chaser: i thought you could levitate

2006-11-08 21:43:19 [Message] squirtgun: that isn;t the first time I have herad Don say

that

2006-11-08 21:43:20 [Message] speck_chaser: after all, you are a gu...<lightning

strikes>

2006-11-08 21:43:21 [Message] donphelps: That's true, Squirt branded me with the title a

few years back.

2006-11-08 21:43:37 [Message] squirtgun: I'm good that way

2006-11-08 21:43:48 [Message] speck_chaser: well, thanks a lot, scott!

2006-11-08 21:44:05 [Message] squirtgun: who knew it would cause such a stir

2006-11-08 21:44:06 [Message] speck_chaser: i'm trying to remember any other ???s I had

2006-11-08 21:44:16 [Message] FCPWLLC: Guys, my wife is giving good signals so I gotta

get while the gettin's good. I'll see ya'll arond.

2006-11-08 21:44:27 [Message] donphelps: moving along now.....anyone else need a PVC

wand?

2006-11-08 21:44:31 [Message] speck_chaser: lol

2006-11-08 21:44:51 [Message] donphelps: Glad you stopped in, Michael!

2006-11-08 21:44:56 [Message] speck_chaser: go, michael!

2006-11-08 21:45:09 [Message] squirtgun: get-r-done Mike

2006-11-08 21:45:12 [Message] DAVIDv: It's just easier to say PHELPS wand, then PHELPS

the GURU wand

2006-11-08 21:45:17 [Message] speck_chaser: all this guru talk get's 'em going

2006-11-08 21:45:27 [Disconnect] FCPWLLC

2006-11-08 21:45:55 [Message] donphelps: lol...there are no guru's in this business that

I know of.....Some just have more experience than others.

2006-11-08 21:46:02 [Message] speck_chaser: i don't think don would mind if you called it

a pvc wand.

2006-11-08 21:46:03 [Message] squirtgun: Don has helped alot of people at no financial

gain

2006-11-08 21:46:27 [Message] speck_chaser: it'll all be fine in the end

2006-11-08 21:47:41 [Message] speck_chaser: so, back to my cargo van for a roof rig...

2006-11-08 21:47:48 [Message] speck_chaser: am i nuts?

2006-11-08 21:48:02 [Message] speck_chaser: it should be OK in the winter, huh?

2006-11-08 21:48:06 [Message] squirtgun: well...Yes,but i think the van would work

2006-11-08 21:48:28 [Message] donphelps: last one......email me at

allseasonsexteriors@gmail.com with "last wand" in the header to win a free PVC wand.

2006-11-08 21:48:43 [Message] speck_chaser: i'm not going to do it this time

2006-11-08 21:48:44 [Message] squirtgun: hurry Thad

2006-11-08 21:48:48 [Message] DAVIDv: what about metal roofs

2006-11-08 21:48:55 [Message] donphelps: no one is left.....lol

2006-11-08 21:48:58 [Message] squirtgun: we all have one now

2006-11-08 21:49:03 [Message] squirtgun: lol

2006-11-08 21:49:07 [Message] speck_chaser: russ needs one

2006-11-08 21:49:14 [Message] speck_chaser: wake him up

2006-11-08 21:49:25 [Message] donphelps: I know, now someone will be stocked with

2......Go for it!

2006-11-08 21:49:27 [Message] speck_chaser: where's the silly string

2006-11-08 21:49:54 [Message] russjohnson: Why do I need one...I ain't gettin' on a

roof...not unless there's a vent stack to install.

2006-11-08 21:50:11 [Message] donphelps: Squirt scores again!

2006-11-08 21:50:26 [Message] speck_chaser: sweetheart deal!

2006-11-08 21:50:32 [Message] squirtgun: cool now we will have his and her

2006-11-08 21:50:36 [Message] russjohnson: double barreled squirt...lol

2006-11-08 21:50:58 [Message] speck_chaser: metal roofs. anyone?

2006-11-08 21:51:07 [Message] squirtgun: they suck

2006-11-08 21:51:12 [Message] speck_chaser: wouldn't house wash work on them?

2006-11-08 21:51:12 [Message] donphelps: 4 wands.....time to go clean some more roofs

before the truck gets repo'ed, lol

2006-11-08 21:51:22 [Message] squirtgun: we have done a few Thad

2006-11-08 21:51:32 [Message] DAVIDv: alot of colored metal roofs going up in the country

2006-11-08 21:51:37 [Message] squirtgun: soap more than SH or you'll rust the screws out

2006-11-08 21:51:40 [Message] speck_chaser: mildewed?

2006-11-08 21:51:46 [Message] DAVIDv: yes

2006-11-08 21:52:04 [Message] speck_chaser: yeah, scott- i was thinking that housewash

would do it

2006-11-08 21:52:05 [Message] donphelps: I've never cleaned a metal roof, but a lower

concentration of SH should to the trick. Needs to probably be fairly weak though.

2006-11-08 21:52:23 [Message] speck_chaser: it's not like it's grown into the roof

material

2006-11-08 21:52:30 [Message] donphelps: lol...That's "do the trick"

2006-11-08 21:52:32 [Message] DAVIDv: right

2006-11-08 21:52:40 [Message] squirtgun: and they are slick

2006-11-08 21:53:03 [Message] speck_chaser: i ain't walking one of those with soap and

love

2006-11-08 21:53:14 [Message] DAVIDv: so 50/50 sh and soap

2006-11-08 21:53:15 [Message] speck_chaser: i've slipped on a few dry ones

2006-11-08 21:53:17 [Message] squirtgun: it's like ice skating,try it

2006-11-08 21:53:20 [Message] donphelps: I was on one the other day, showing Chris

(work2fish) how to do some paint prep on a gable.

2006-11-08 21:53:28 [Message] donphelps: in the rain

2006-11-08 21:53:33 [Message] speck_chaser: nice

2006-11-08 21:53:39 [Message] speck_chaser: bruise or scar?

2006-11-08 21:53:47 [Message] speck_chaser: i've got both

2006-11-08 21:54:02 [Message] speck_chaser: wet metal roof=ouch

2006-11-08 21:54:16 [Message] donphelps: lol....went where I had to go and did what I

needed to do and my work was done there.

2006-11-08 21:54:41 [Message] speck_chaser: leave those for the young fellers

2006-11-08 21:54:50 [Message] speck_chaser: they don't know any better

2006-11-08 21:54:54 [Message] squirtgun: lol

2006-11-08 21:54:57 [Message] donphelps: 3 stories up on tile is always fun too.

2006-11-08 21:55:04 [Message] speck_chaser: you can have it

2006-11-08 21:55:06 [Message] donphelps: fall gear!!!

2006-11-08 21:55:11 [Message] speck_chaser: not interested!

2006-11-08 21:55:37 [Message] speck_chaser: :)

2006-11-08 21:55:56 [Message] donphelps: The red tile apartment pics from April were 3

story and the ends were very steep.

2006-11-08 21:56:13 [Message] speck_chaser: even if you only fall 'down' and not 'off' it

still could do some serious damage

2006-11-08 21:56:20 [Message] squirtgun: well guys,I'm out.Don great chat,thanks for the

PVC wands.Hope to see you on the way to KY

2006-11-08 21:56:46 [Message] donphelps: Thanks Scott, I'll drop them off on the way

through town.

2006-11-08 21:56:47 [Message] speck_chaser: later Scott.

2006-11-08 21:56:53 [Message] speck_chaser: i'm out, too

2006-11-08 21:56:57 [Message] DAVIDv: c-ya scott

2006-11-08 21:57:00 [Message] squirtgun: sounds like a plan

2006-11-08 21:57:05 [Message] squirtgun: Nite guys

2006-11-08 21:57:11 [Disconnect] squirtgun

2006-11-08 21:57:13 [Message] speck_chaser: you coming through LA on your way to KY, Don?

2006-11-08 21:57:27 [Message] donphelps: heck no! lol

2006-11-08 21:57:44 [Message] speck_chaser: you don't have to say it like that

2006-11-08 21:57:48 [Message] speck_chaser: :D

2006-11-08 21:57:56 [Message] speck_chaser: i'll pm you my address

2006-11-08 21:58:37 [Message] donphelps: Let's wrap it up then, guys......I want to thnk

everyone for coming out and supporting the chat. Don't forget to do the same for Russ

next week too!

2006-11-08 21:58:44 [Message] DAVIDv: Don thanks alot...I'll call you on dates for labor

4 learning

2006-11-08 21:58:49 [Message] donphelps: OK, Thad....sounds good

2006-11-08 21:58:50 [Message] speck_chaser: Goodnight all!

2006-11-08 21:59:01 [Message] donphelps: OK David, Thanks!

2006-11-08 21:59:08 [Message] DAVIDv: goodnight all

2006-11-08 21:59:22 [Disconnect] speck_chaser

2006-11-08 21:59:27 [Message] donphelps: Good night guys....Be safe on the roofs!!!

2006-11-08 21:59:28 [Message] russjohnson: I'm cruisin' on myself...got some photo work

to do before bed...take care and come back next week...

2006-11-08 21:59:47 [Message] donphelps: 'nite to all!

2006-11-08 21:59:50 [Disconnect] DAVIDv

2006-11-08 21:59:59 [Disconnect] russjohnson

2006-11-08 22:00:04 [Disconnect] donphelps

2006-11-08 22:03:08 [Disconnect] bethnrod