Equipment Chat - Wed. Nov. 15th 2006 - transcript

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

2006-11-15 20:01:21 [Message] bethnrod : hi :)

2006-11-15 20:01:21 [Message] donphelps : Hi Beth/Rod

2006-11-15 20:02:31 [Message] bethnrod : I think Scott (racechaser ) is trying to

login

2006-11-15 20:02:50 [Message] donphelps : Let's get him here....lol

2006-11-15 20:03:15 [Login] chappy

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2006-11-15 20:03:29 [Login] squirtgun

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2006-11-15 20:03:46 [Message] squirtgun : hello ya'll

2006-11-15 20:03:50 [Message] donphelps : Hey Scott!

2006-11-15 20:04:01 [Message] squirtgun : hey Don

2006-11-15 20:04:10 [Message] donphelps : raining there yet?

2006-11-15 20:04:17 [Message] squirtgun : heck yes

2006-11-15 20:04:35 [Message] donphelps : lol...it's headed this way

2006-11-15 20:04:45 [Message] bethnrod : Is Russ in yet?

2006-11-15 20:04:56 [Message] donphelps : it was 88 today and 70 tomorrow.

2006-11-15 20:05:05 [Message] donphelps : no Russ yet

2006-11-15 20:05:09 [Message] squirtgun : Looks like we'll have it most of the night

2006-11-15 20:05:18 [Message] bethnrod : Don send that warmth up here!!! (but keep

the rain)

2006-11-15 20:05:44 [Message] squirtgun : was in the mid 70's here today

2006-11-15 20:05:45 [Message] donphelps : lol....it doesn't work that way,

unfortunately

2006-11-15 20:05:49 [Message] chappy : that looks like some serious storm heading in

to you

2006-11-15 20:05:54 [Message] bethnrod : Who is Chappy?

2006-11-15 20:06:01 [Message] chappy : jon chapman

2006-11-15 20:06:02 [Message] squirtgun : been in the upper 30'and low 40's in the

AM's

2006-11-15 20:06:05 [Message] donphelps : jon chapman

2006-11-15 20:06:05 [Message] bethnrod : ah!

2006-11-15 20:06:43 [Message] squirtgun : Don are you bringing teh girls with you

Tuesday?

2006-11-15 20:06:52 [Message] donphelps : yep

2006-11-15 20:07:07 [Message] donphelps : It will have to be quick

2006-11-15 20:07:10 [Message] squirtgun : good we can;t wait to see them

2006-11-15 20:07:15 [Message] squirtgun : I understand

2006-11-15 20:07:24 [Message] chappy : don, whats the progress on a florida

roundtable that your organizing

2006-11-15 20:07:32 [Message] squirtgun : I'll give you a call later

2006-11-15 20:07:41 [Login] russjohnson

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2006-11-15 20:07:51 [Message] squirtgun : Hey the host is here

2006-11-15 20:07:57 [Message] squirtgun : hey Russ

2006-11-15 20:08:00 [Message] donphelps : I'm not, and never really said I was

2006-11-15 20:08:11 [Message] russjohnson : What are you guys doing throwing a party

without me???

2006-11-15 20:08:12 [Message] chappy : But you were elected

2006-11-15 20:08:14 [Message] donphelps : Thanks Scott

2006-11-15 20:08:42 [Message] donphelps : I'm a Democrat...Your vote doesn't count,

lol!

2006-11-15 20:08:55 [Message] squirtgun : Hey Russ if you can't make it on time,just

make it when you can

2006-11-15 20:08:55 [Message] bethnrod : There's Russ!

2006-11-15 20:09:02 [Grant Admin] bethnrod -> russjohnson

2006-11-15 20:09:02 [Message] chappy : You are the only guy around central florida

with the smarts to get something going, think about it.

2006-11-15 20:09:06 [Message] russjohnson : The dinosaur comp in the house wouldn't

work.. had to run to the shop...

2006-11-15 20:09:13 [Message] squirtgun : lol

2006-11-15 20:09:20 [Message] donphelps : Hi Russ

2006-11-15 20:09:44 [Message] donphelps : tell me about this burner adjustment

2006-11-15 20:10:04 [Message] russjohnson : Shoot it to me

2006-11-15 20:10:35 [Message] russjohnson : Aahhhhh the cut out pressure?

2006-11-15 20:10:42 [Message] donphelps : you mention a screw or something a week or

two back.....little known to most.

2006-11-15 20:10:51 [Message] donphelps : mentioned

2006-11-15 20:11:18 [Message] russjohnson : yeah...it tells the pump to quit as soon

as the pressure drops off...like a decrease in rpms

2006-11-15 20:11:45 [Message] russjohnson : Irt snaps the valving closed immediately.

2006-11-15 20:11:52 [Message] donphelps : these PP skids are spraying diesel

everywhere....it's crazy.

2006-11-15 20:12:12 [Message] chappy : I just bought a Pressure Pro 8gpm unit used.

It keeps feeding diesel when running cold so when I fire up the burner i get some serious flames.

Warped my roof yesterday it was so bad.. is this the same problem?

2006-11-15 20:12:17 [Message] russjohnson : Do they light real dirty and smoke when

they go out?

2006-11-15 20:12:38 [Message] chappy : yes, that too.

2006-11-15 20:13:04 [Message] donphelps : mine is good otherwise, just spraying oil

everywhere and it drips into the generator, etc.

2006-11-15 20:13:24 [Message] russjohnson : Alkota has, for YEARS, controlled the

entire burner, not just a solenoid, with the pressure switch running through a starter solenoid.

2006-11-15 20:13:39 [Message] donphelps : They gave me a new skid, but this is

crazy.....trailer is trashed now.

2006-11-15 20:13:58 [Login] mully

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2006-11-15 20:14:41 [Message] donphelps : both leak, 2nd not as bad as the 1st though

2006-11-15 20:14:41 [Message] chappy : whos mully?

2006-11-15 20:14:50 [Message] squirtgun : this seems to be pretty common with that

machine,seems like they would have addressed it long ago

2006-11-15 20:14:54 [Message] russjohnson : As the motor winds down, the pressure

drops to a dribble and then squirts fuel all over. The best scenario is to stop the fuel flow

immediately. The fuel pump soleniod controls this.

2006-11-15 20:15:35 [Message] russjohnson : Does the fuel line have a solenoid on it

where it exits the pump?

2006-11-15 20:15:58 [Message] donphelps : I spent 13k on a 5.6 hot, 8 hot and an 8

cold. I'm not really very happy about it.

2006-11-15 20:16:15 [Message] donphelps : not that I recall.

2006-11-15 20:16:29 [Message] chappy : i dont think mine does either

2006-11-15 20:16:40 [Message] donphelps : mine is 115 volt

2006-11-15 20:16:41 [Message] russjohnson : Then they're copying Alkota's mistake.

2006-11-15 20:17:08 [Message] chappy : is there a solution?

2006-11-15 20:17:09 [Message] russjohnson : Yeah, they do that with 110's too...even

electric powered ones.\

2006-11-15 20:17:22 [Message] squirtgun : so on top of the money already spend they

are goingto have to add a part?

2006-11-15 20:17:33 [Message] donphelps : I sat in on an Alkota conference call, but

it was a lot of political jockeying and little more.

2006-11-15 20:17:47 [Message] russjohnson : There are 2 solutions...buy a fuel

solenoid and do some rewiring or adjust the cut out pressure

2006-11-15 20:18:09 [Message] chappy : how?

2006-11-15 20:18:17 [Message] donphelps : cool...thanks!

2006-11-15 20:18:53 [Message] russjohnson : Below the fuel outlet on the pump near

the inlet port, there is a plastic plug.

2006-11-15 20:19:15 [Message] donphelps : brb, going to look.....lol

2006-11-15 20:19:17 [Message] russjohnson : You need something sharp like an awl or

penknife to pry it out

2006-11-15 20:19:39 [Message] russjohnson : There is a screw head inside the hole

2006-11-15 20:19:53 [Disconnect] mully

2006-11-15 20:20:30 [Message] russjohnson : Fire yor machine up, call for heat

(trigger it) and let it light

2006-11-15 20:21:01 [Message] russjohnson : Use a screwdriver and back the screw out

until the burner quits

2006-11-15 20:21:19 [Message] russjohnson : Screwit back in just until it lights

2006-11-15 20:21:39 [Message] russjohnson : Test it a couple of times to make sure it

will fire

2006-11-15 20:22:17 [Message] russjohnson : If not, turn the screw a little more (but

not too much, you'll be back where you were)

2006-11-15 20:22:46 [Message] russjohnson : You back yet, Don?lol

2006-11-15 20:23:05 [Message] donphelps : didn't see it, but it's in the garage and

hard to get at for now.....yes.

2006-11-15 20:23:30 [Message] donphelps : is it the same on all burners?

2006-11-15 20:23:40 [Message] russjohnson : I'll scan a diagram of a fuel pump and

put it on TGS tomorrow

2006-11-15 20:23:46 [Message] chappy : that sounds pretty simple

2006-11-15 20:23:49 [Message] russjohnson : meaning???

2006-11-15 20:24:03 [Message] chappy : simple fix

2006-11-15 20:24:12 [Message] donphelps : sounds great.......115 vs 12v

2006-11-15 20:24:17 [Message] russjohnson : If there's a solenoid controlling the

flame, there's no worry

2006-11-15 20:24:46 [Message] russjohnson : Cut out pressure adjustment is the same

across the board

2006-11-15 20:25:18 [Message] donphelps : it's annoying.....always wondering if

trailer is stoked up yet, lol!

2006-11-15 20:25:25 [Message] chappy : pressure switch or flow switch. does it

matter?

2006-11-15 20:25:42 [Message] russjohnson : No, switch doesn't matter at all

2006-11-15 20:25:44 [Message] chappy : Is your trailer enclosed, Don?

2006-11-15 20:26:05 [Message] donphelps : We use flow switches now.....went through

too many pressure switches.

2006-11-15 20:26:17 [Message] donphelps : This particular trailer is open.

2006-11-15 20:26:36 [Message] chappy : yeah, I hate the pressure switches.

2006-11-15 20:26:59 [Message] donphelps : anybody tried the GY spiral flex hose yet?

2006-11-15 20:27:41 [Message] russjohnson : I have a customer who has a reel

full...he loves it...but the ridges wear out after a while

2006-11-15 20:27:47 [Message] squirtgun : No,but it's a nice concept

2006-11-15 20:28:40 [Message] chappy : is it any lighter?

2006-11-15 20:28:43 [Message] squirtgun : I don't think it could take the abuse of

beingdragged across fats food parking lots

2006-11-15 20:28:54 [Message] donphelps : I tried 200' and it's OK, but as you said,

the ridges wear down. Then you're right back where you started. nice blue trail too.

2006-11-15 20:28:58 [Message] russjohnson : Fats foods???

2006-11-15 20:29:03 [Message] squirtgun : ooops fast

2006-11-15 20:29:12 [Message] squirtgun : well it will make you fat

2006-11-15 20:29:24 [Message] russjohnson : I guess that's right except for

Subway...Eat Fresh

2006-11-15 20:29:26 [Message] donphelps : I luv fat foods! ????

2006-11-15 20:29:49 [Message] squirtgun : me too,but teh doctor will only let me have

it once a month now

2006-11-15 20:30:04 [Message] squirtgun : nad yes Russ teh=the for me

2006-11-15 20:30:13 [Message] squirtgun : and nad=and

2006-11-15 20:30:13 [Message] donphelps : it was a nice gimmick in my opinion.

2006-11-15 20:30:53 [Message] russjohnson : I can't wait to try to fix one...all the

extra rubber is going to havve to be peeled off

2006-11-15 20:31:07 [Message] russjohnson : have

2006-11-15 20:31:25 [Message] squirtgun : that will make for a nice tight fit

2006-11-15 20:31:45 [Message] russjohnson : too tight ain't good

2006-11-15 20:32:16 [Message] donphelps : it would be good if they can make a strong,

light hose.....current version isn't too good though IMO

2006-11-15 20:32:18 [Message] russjohnson : gets the rubber kinked up inside, then

the end won't fit right

2006-11-15 20:32:29 [Message] squirtgun : yeah,we went through replacement ends fast

ujntil we found someone who could crimp them

2006-11-15 20:33:02 [Message] russjohnson : I don't have problems with

reuseables...been using them for years

2006-11-15 20:33:19 [Message] donphelps : I'm starting to appreciate the simplicity

of roof cleaning...lol

2006-11-15 20:33:24 [Message] squirtgun : lol

2006-11-15 20:33:33 [Message] chappy : amen to that Don.

2006-11-15 20:33:39 [Login] COOPER

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2006-11-15 20:33:44 [Message] russjohnson : Thought about getting a crimper, but at

$900, you have to fix a LOT of hose

2006-11-15 20:33:51 [Message] donphelps : Hi Cooper

2006-11-15 20:33:59 [Message] squirtgun : we abuse hoses,and I get a lot of use out

of them

2006-11-15 20:34:03 [Message] COOPER : How is everyone

2006-11-15 20:34:12 [Message] russjohnson : Coop er, welcome

2006-11-15 20:34:13 [Message] chappy : good, welcome

2006-11-15 20:34:31 [Message] donphelps : get one.....they will know where to come

and it'll pay for itself faster.

2006-11-15 20:34:49 [Message] squirtgun : Russ,we have talked aabout me pulling my

coil and teh insulation sticking

2006-11-15 20:35:05 [Message] russjohnson : It will...got to get new

2006-11-15 20:35:16 [Message] squirtgun : notice the other day Largo inserted a cage

bewteen the coils and insulation

2006-11-15 20:35:19 [Message] russjohnson : I never reuse insulation

2006-11-15 20:35:31 [Message] russjohnson : a cage?

2006-11-15 20:35:38 [Message] squirtgun : yes steel mesh

2006-11-15 20:35:40 [Message] russjohnson : Must be a wild coil

2006-11-15 20:35:46 [Message] squirtgun : lol

2006-11-15 20:36:04 [Message] russjohnson : I don't know what purpose it would serve

2006-11-15 20:36:06 [Message] donphelps : we do, but this is FL.....we just borrow it

from our neighbor's roof, lol

2006-11-15 20:36:22 [Message] russjohnson : lol

2006-11-15 20:36:44 [Message] squirtgun : my guess was to keep the insulatin off teh

coil

2006-11-15 20:37:12 [Message] russjohnson : Don't matter...it'll stick to the skin

2006-11-15 20:37:15 [Message] squirtgun : I have to pull it,besides needing cleaning

I need to get teh cracked weld fixed

2006-11-15 20:37:26 [Message] russjohnson : bring it up

2006-11-15 20:37:37 [Message] russjohnson : lol

2006-11-15 20:37:38 [Message] donphelps : I don't want to turn this into a 'roof'

chat, but what do you think about those Delavan pumps, Russ?

2006-11-15 20:37:39 [Message] squirtgun : I figure it will ,just hatethe idea of

having to pull it at all

2006-11-15 20:38:07 [Message] russjohnson : Fairly new to them...we'll have to wait

and see

2006-11-15 20:38:26 [Message] donphelps : they look good on paper

2006-11-15 20:38:36 [Message] russjohnson : Can't be worse than SF or FJ...

2006-11-15 20:38:39 [Message] chappy : I still miss my roller pump, just need to

replace it. the 3gpm sure flow doesnt cut it

2006-11-15 20:39:13 [Message] russjohnson : Any of the materials in the pump aren't

happy around chlorine

2006-11-15 20:39:47 [Message] russjohnson : Ceramic is about the only

chlorine-impervious material

2006-11-15 20:39:51 [Message] donphelps : We've got too much invested in the JBs now

to go back, but they look like the way to go for residential setups.

2006-11-15 20:40:15 [Message] donphelps : Delavans

2006-11-15 20:40:24 [Message] russjohnson : I was thinking about buying one of those

Comets to brutalize

2006-11-15 20:40:35 [Message] squirtgun : you can always link 6 together to give you

teh same performance Don

2006-11-15 20:40:54 [Message] donphelps : I'm probably going to try to tear one up on

the next apartment gig....lol

2006-11-15 20:41:05 [Message] russjohnson : A comet?

2006-11-15 20:41:18 [Message] donphelps : yep

2006-11-15 20:41:39 [Message] russjohnson : give 'er hell, son..let me know how it

turns out

2006-11-15 20:41:48 [Message] donphelps : it will tell the tale on the 1st or 2nd day

2006-11-15 20:41:48 [Message] squirtgun : Oh goodie,that means I'll get hand me down

some day...........lol

2006-11-15 20:42:09 [Message] russjohnson : Don breaks it, Scott inherits it...

2006-11-15 20:42:32 [Message] donphelps : you'll get a chunk of something that

resembles a meteor, Squirt....lol

2006-11-15 20:42:35 [Message] squirtgun : Don don't break them,he just decides if he

likes it or not

2006-11-15 20:42:42 [Message] russjohnson : Ahhhh

2006-11-15 20:43:33 [Message] donphelps : Jbs are strong.....chlorine baths are harsh

environments!

2006-11-15 20:44:39 [Message] russjohnson : Household bleach has it's fun. I'vve got

a half rotted ExCell in my shop now

2006-11-15 20:44:54 [Message] russjohnson : dam "V' key

2006-11-15 20:45:00 [Message] donphelps : lol.....those are fun

2006-11-15 20:45:34 [Message] squirtgun : I have one in my shop,that won;t start

2006-11-15 20:45:55 [Message] russjohnson : hit it with a hammer....lol

2006-11-15 20:46:02 [Message] russjohnson : Why?

2006-11-15 20:46:09 [Message] squirtgun : magneto

2006-11-15 20:46:15 [Message] russjohnson : Honda

2006-11-15 20:46:18 [Message] donphelps : my garage is starting to look like a flea

market

2006-11-15 20:46:21 [Message] squirtgun : briggs

2006-11-15 20:46:28 [Message] russjohnson : Vanguard?

2006-11-15 20:46:31 [Message] squirtgun : no

2006-11-15 20:46:37 [Message] squirtgun : it's a cheap machine

2006-11-15 20:46:43 [Message] squirtgun : 2.1 gpm

2006-11-15 20:46:47 [Message] donphelps : Karcher? lol

2006-11-15 20:46:51 [Message] russjohnson : pfffffft

2006-11-15 20:47:18 [Message] russjohnson : You probably shouldn't have admitted to

owning it

2006-11-15 20:47:18 [Message] squirtgun : if i get it running again,i want to make a

snow machine with it

2006-11-15 20:47:40 [Message] donphelps : lol

2006-11-15 20:47:51 [Message] russjohnson : You got a source for the mag?

2006-11-15 20:48:24 [Message] squirtgun : no,it's badly rusted...i told my father

inlaw to take and fix it for him to use

2006-11-15 20:48:51 [Message] squirtgun : I also yanked the pull rope out of it in a

fit of disgust

2006-11-15 20:48:55 [Message] donphelps : I tried a smaller injector the other day

and it sucked like a t

2006-11-15 20:49:07 [Message] donphelps : bat

2006-11-15 20:49:29 [Message] russjohnson : smaller as in 3-5 gpm?

2006-11-15 20:49:34 [Message] donphelps : yep

2006-11-15 20:49:46 [Message] donphelps : on a 8 gpm skid

2006-11-15 20:49:46 [Message] russjohnson : Did you get a high flow?

2006-11-15 20:50:25 [Message] donphelps : I didn't measure it, but it delivered all

it needed to for restaurant cleaning.

2006-11-15 20:50:57 [Message] russjohnson : Restaurant.....hood?

2006-11-15 20:51:19 [Message] squirtgun : are you crazy....we aren't hood rats

2006-11-15 20:51:25 [Message] russjohnson : he he

2006-11-15 20:51:30 [Message] donphelps : no....drive-thru and backdoor areas

2006-11-15 20:51:49 [Message] russjohnson : I've cleaned 2..never again

2006-11-15 20:51:51 [Message] donphelps : I'll quit before I clean a hood...lol

2006-11-15 20:52:07 [Message] squirtgun : amen brotha

2006-11-15 20:52:30 [Message] squirtgun : Angela keeps bugging me.....I just cover my

ears and yell...NONONONONONONO

2006-11-15 20:52:46 [Message] donphelps : spraying a 'hood with a Tek-9 is

different.....lol

2006-11-15 20:52:52 [Message] russjohnson : Send her down the duct...once is all

it'll take

2006-11-15 20:53:25 [Message] squirtgun : lo

2006-11-15 20:53:27 [Message] squirtgun : lol

2006-11-15 20:54:05 [Message] russjohnson : Who here freezes?

2006-11-15 20:54:23 [Message] squirtgun : as in temps?

2006-11-15 20:54:45 [Message] russjohnson : yep...want to see the potential carnage

2006-11-15 20:54:49 [Message] donphelps : I miss my wife...She's in Austin, TX at a

conference for the next 3 days. Can I say that at a 'Russ' chat?

2006-11-15 20:54:57 [Message] squirtgun : We do

2006-11-15 20:55:02 [Message] russjohnson : sure...we all miss her

2006-11-15 20:55:10 [Message] squirtgun : Don you're such a sweet guy

2006-11-15 20:55:11 [Message] donphelps : lol

2006-11-15 20:55:17 [Message] donphelps : touche'!

2006-11-15 20:55:28 [Message] russjohnson : how cold do you get, Scott?

2006-11-15 20:55:36 [Message] squirtgun : lower 20's

2006-11-15 20:55:56 [Message] squirtgun : occassional teens buit rarely

2006-11-15 20:56:05 [Message] russjohnson : brrrr...a warm January day

2006-11-15 20:56:05 [Message] squirtgun : we use lot sof anti freeze

2006-11-15 20:56:23 [Message] russjohnson : auto or washer solvent?

2006-11-15 20:56:23 [Message] squirtgun : and a heat lamp

2006-11-15 20:56:29 [Message] squirtgun : auto

2006-11-15 20:56:35 [Message] squirtgun : mixed 50/50

2006-11-15 20:56:58 [Message] squirtgun : I don't trus the washer solvent

2006-11-15 20:57:07 [Message] russjohnson : Start it out at 75 antifreeze to 25

water...you can use it longer

2006-11-15 20:57:30 [Message] COOPER : We usually have a lot of nights in the lower

20's in Jan and Feb bout like squirt. I usually protect mine with 20 below windshield washer fluid.

W TN

2006-11-15 20:57:43 [Message] russjohnson : washer sol is ok...but only 1 use

2006-11-15 20:57:57 [Message] squirtgun : I was thinking of adding heat tape this

year.the kind that you wrap pipes with

2006-11-15 20:58:04 [Message] russjohnson : I like something that's reuseable

2006-11-15 20:58:15 [Message] donphelps : just move to central fl

2006-11-15 20:58:30 [Message] russjohnson : I saw that thread...where you gonna put

the tape?

2006-11-15 20:58:45 [Message] russjohnson : can't put it on the coil

2006-11-15 20:58:55 [Message] squirtgun : out side of teh coil wrap and near the pump

2006-11-15 20:59:05 [Message] russjohnson : Used to live in FL...believe me, I know

2006-11-15 20:59:09 [Message] Keth : hello all, had to step out

2006-11-15 20:59:25 [Message] russjohnson : Outside the wrap won't do any good

2006-11-15 20:59:31 [Message] COOPER : I have a heated shop this year

2006-11-15 20:59:33 [Message] russjohnson : Hey, Keth

2006-11-15 20:59:42 [Message] squirtgun : ok,forget that idea

2006-11-15 20:59:51 [Message] donphelps : I remeber you saying that somewhere,

Russ....where?

2006-11-15 20:59:53 [Message] Keth : we dip into the 20s here rarely, and the days

are always above freezing

2006-11-15 20:59:58 [Message] donphelps : remember

2006-11-15 20:59:58 [Message] squirtgun : we'll stick with the anto freeze and heta

lamp

2006-11-15 21:00:02 [Message] russjohnson : The insul will keep 500 degrees in...will

keep 50 degrees otu

2006-11-15 21:00:14 [Message] russjohnson : Daytona

2006-11-15 21:00:30 [Message] russjohnson : "73 - "84

2006-11-15 21:00:38 [Message] Keth : so my plan is to use a small space heater in the

garage, with the concrete above freezing during the day I think it will keep the garage from

freezing

2006-11-15 21:00:50 [Message] donphelps : lol...most come to Daytona and don't leave.

You're the exception to the rule

2006-11-15 21:00:56 [Message] squirtgun : I

2006-11-15 21:01:04 [Message] russjohnson : Laaw trouble...ya know

2006-11-15 21:01:07 [Message] Keth : with a heat lamp on the pump head

2006-11-15 21:01:13 [Message] Keth : Hi Russ

2006-11-15 21:01:17 [Disconnect] bethnrod

2006-11-15 21:01:18 [Message] donphelps : lol

2006-11-15 21:01:41 [Message] Keth : Russ, question regarding the oil in my pressure

pump

2006-11-15 21:01:46 [Message] russjohnson : Hey, Keth, as long as it keeps it from

icing

2006-11-15 21:01:48 [Message] squirtgun : I'm planning on doing some work on our rig

this winter,I want to replace teh wood witha composite decking

2006-11-15 21:01:57 [Message] russjohnson : Yeah, Keth

2006-11-15 21:02:23 [Message] russjohnson : Scott...steel

2006-11-15 21:02:40 [Message] squirtgun : I working our some detail now to have the

entire thing powder coated

2006-11-15 21:02:41 [Message] Keth : when I drained it it had a milky look to it as

if water had gotten into it, the AR guide said that could be caused by condensation

2006-11-15 21:02:48 [Message] Keth : should I worry about that?

2006-11-15 21:02:51 [Message] russjohnson : Could be

2006-11-15 21:03:09 [Message] russjohnson : Ws the level higher than it was supposded

to be?

2006-11-15 21:03:18 [Message] russjohnson : supposed

2006-11-15 21:03:19 [Message] Keth : no, level was okay

2006-11-15 21:03:26 [Message] donphelps : I don't thin 'milky' is ever good.

2006-11-15 21:03:31 [Message] donphelps : think

2006-11-15 21:03:39 [Message] Keth : yeah don that was my first reaction

2006-11-15 21:03:42 [Message] russjohnson : Might be condens...or start of a leak

2006-11-15 21:04:08 [Message] russjohnson : How long between changes?

2006-11-15 21:04:10 [Message] Keth : ok, is this type of leak, if it is one,

something I can fix myself?

2006-11-15 21:04:35 [Message] russjohnson : With a little help if you've never been

in a pump

2006-11-15 21:04:47 [Message] russjohnson : Not rocket science

2006-11-15 21:04:47 [Message] Keth : only had this rig for a few months and this was

my first change

2006-11-15 21:04:53 [Message] squirtgun : pump rebuild isn't bad with the right tools

2006-11-15 21:05:07 [Message] russjohnson : Do you let it bypass for long periods?

2006-11-15 21:05:11 [Message] Keth : not a lot of hours being a part timer

2006-11-15 21:05:14 [Message] donphelps : call the 'Doc'....lol

2006-11-15 21:05:20 [Message] Keth : lol

2006-11-15 21:05:35 [Message] Keth : I have bypass into the main tank

2006-11-15 21:05:49 [Message] squirtgun : lol

2006-11-15 21:05:50 [Message] Keth : believe I have a K7 unloader

2006-11-15 21:06:01 [Message] donphelps : is it gold?

2006-11-15 21:06:03 [Message] Keth : which has a small drip too ;)

2006-11-15 21:06:18 [Message] Keth : yeah, it is gold colored, Hydrotek skid

2006-11-15 21:06:24 [Message] COOPER : Is it bypassed back to the tank

2006-11-15 21:06:25 [Message] squirtgun : you sure that isn't the guy running it

Keth.................lol

2006-11-15 21:06:30 [Message] Keth : LOL

2006-11-15 21:06:48 [Message] Keth : hey, if you saw what I had before you guys

wouldn't even talk to me

2006-11-15 21:06:49 [Message] russjohnson : I'd change it now, then again in 4 weeks

and see how it looks...keep an eye on the level.

2006-11-15 21:06:51 [Message] squirtgun : I threw my K7 away a few months ago

2006-11-15 21:07:03 [Message] russjohnson : If it gets fuller, it's leaking

2006-11-15 21:07:05 [Message] squirtgun : kz1 on there now,works the same

2006-11-15 21:07:14 [Message] donphelps : sounds like pilot error to me...lol

2006-11-15 21:07:17 [Message] Keth : ok Russ, I just changed it about 3 hours ago

2006-11-15 21:07:18 [Message] squirtgun : not as finicky

2006-11-15 21:07:21 [Message] Keth : so I will watch it

2006-11-15 21:07:38 [Message] russjohnson : Where's your K7 dripping? The steel

coming out the end?

2006-11-15 21:07:52 [Message] donphelps : K-7s's can be a pain when plumbed back to

aa tank.

2006-11-15 21:08:03 [Message] Keth : ok, joking aside, am I doing something wrong? I

don't believe that I leave it in bypass more than anyone else

2006-11-15 21:08:15 [Message] donphelps : finicky

2006-11-15 21:08:19 [Message] squirtgun : ours was just worn out and not worth teh

ciost fo rebuilding

2006-11-15 21:08:36 [Message] russjohnson : bypassing to a tank won't matter...let it

run all day

2006-11-15 21:08:37 [Message] Keth : yeah, I think it is the steel coming out of the

end, very smal drip

2006-11-15 21:09:02 [Message] squirtgun : the kz1 was in the tool box,it came on the

machine

2006-11-15 21:09:05 [Message] Keth : tank is 225 gallons so I think heat is not a

problem

2006-11-15 21:09:07 [Message] russjohnson : a rubber seal and some sandpaper will

stop that.

2006-11-15 21:09:21 [Message] Keth : ok, thanks Russ

2006-11-15 21:09:27 [Message] donphelps : mine have always gone crazy after a time or

two to a tank, then we reduce the orifice size and it clears up.

2006-11-15 21:09:57 [Message] russjohnson : K7's have always had a problem with

cycling in bypass

2006-11-15 21:10:08 [Message] COOPER : I have ran k7 for years bypassed to tank. Ok

with the right orfice.

2006-11-15 21:10:10 [Message] Keth : ahhh, good to know

2006-11-15 21:10:10 [Message] donphelps : ....wants to jump back and forth

2006-11-15 21:10:10 [Message] russjohnson : without the proper bypass orifice

2006-11-15 21:10:32 [Message] Keth : when you say proper bypass orifice I am not sure

what you mean

2006-11-15 21:10:33 [Message] russjohnson : got to take it down 1 size

2006-11-15 21:10:33 [Message] squirtgun : teh kz1 weighs a lot less and when you are

mounting the unloader on the pump head

2006-11-15 21:10:55 [Message] russjohnson : K7.2 with a #1 bypass orifice

2006-11-15 21:10:59 [Message] Keth : my unloader is mounted on the skid frame, not on

the pump head

2006-11-15 21:11:06 [Message] squirtgun : lucky

2006-11-15 21:11:06 [Message] donphelps : I keep all orifice sizes around these days.

2006-11-15 21:11:07 [Message] COOPER : I am using the kz1 for the first time right

now because of a lot of guys saying they last longer. Figured i would try one and see

2006-11-15 21:11:09 [Message] russjohnson : doesn't matter

2006-11-15 21:11:19 [Message] squirtgun : i need to put mine on a block

2006-11-15 21:11:48 [Message] russjohnson : How many ya want...lol

2006-11-15 21:11:54 [Message] squirtgun : lol

2006-11-15 21:11:59 [Message] donphelps : like your car, lol.

2006-11-15 21:12:02 [Message] Keth : so, the steel rod needs a burnish with some

wet/dry paper and a new seal is what you are saying Russ?

2006-11-15 21:12:39 [Message] russjohnson : Yeah...if you pull the bottom off,

there's a piston in there with a rubber cup on it

2006-11-15 21:12:42 [Login] steve kiser

2006-11-15 21:12:42 [iP] steve kiser: 72.161.9.209

2006-11-15 21:12:43 [Join Room] steve kiser -> Town Meeting

2006-11-15 21:12:59 [Message] donphelps : hi Steve

2006-11-15 21:13:02 [Message] steve kiser : hi what's up

2006-11-15 21:13:04 [Message] russjohnson : Under that is a spring, a brass washer, a

teflon ring, then the seal.

2006-11-15 21:13:07 [Message] Keth : ok, I am sure Bob can hook me up with the parts

2006-11-15 21:13:16 [Message] russjohnson : OOOHhhhhhhh....

2006-11-15 21:13:25 [Message] donphelps : maybe Russ can

2006-11-15 21:13:37 [Message] donphelps : lol, it's his chat

2006-11-15 21:13:39 [Message] Keth : ohhhhh

2006-11-15 21:13:40 [Message] russjohnson : :(

2006-11-15 21:13:44 [Message] squirtgun : ph.man you didn't just do that............

2006-11-15 21:13:52 [Message] Keth : didn't know you were a dealer as well, I

apologize

2006-11-15 21:14:02 [Message] russjohnson : no problem...

2006-11-15 21:14:14 [Message] donphelps : that was a 'fox paw'....lol

2006-11-15 21:14:16 [Message] russjohnson : It's all good...

2006-11-15 21:14:19 [Message] Keth : LOL

2006-11-15 21:14:25 [Message] squirtgun : Russ you need a tissue?

2006-11-15 21:14:35 [Message] russjohnson : naw...I got a cat

2006-11-15 21:14:42 [Message] russjohnson : softer

2006-11-15 21:14:48 [Message] donphelps : Russ is a tuff guy

2006-11-15 21:14:48 [Message] Keth : let me look at it closer so I am sure about what

I have and where it is leaking and I will ping you for the parts if needed

2006-11-15 21:15:30 [Message] russjohnson : Anyway....you need to polish the shaft

where it goes through the seal...

2006-11-15 21:15:33 [Message] Keth : to be honest it works great but I see this drip,

I am not even sure it is a K7 but it looks like the pictures I see of them on websites

2006-11-15 21:15:39 [Message] russjohnson : or it'll eat the new one up

2006-11-15 21:15:42 [Message] steve kiser : I got an 8 gpm machine a few weeks ago,

and am still stuggling with wether I want to start DS or stick with the x-jet? Would I get more

distance with DS?

2006-11-15 21:16:15 [Message] squirtgun : xjet has it's place,but it's not the end

all be all

2006-11-15 21:16:16 [Message] donphelps : not really, but probably less mist

2006-11-15 21:16:16 [Message] COOPER : You can get just a far at least Steve

2006-11-15 21:16:26 [Message] Keth : yeah, I used to fix hydraulics stuff, one little

nick in the shaft and it would eat seals like a Texan at a BBQ

2006-11-15 21:16:34 [Message] russjohnson : With a "shooter" tip, you can get a

pretty good distance

2006-11-15 21:17:11 [Message] Keth : my opinion is that I get farther with a 4040

than I do with an X-jet

2006-11-15 21:17:22 [Message] russjohnson : Texans at barbeques eat seals????I

thought that was Eskimos...?

2006-11-15 21:17:26 [Message] steve kiser : oh by the way thanks for the 3 bar for my

surfacer russ works like a champ

2006-11-15 21:17:30 [Message] donphelps : I like the adjustability of a M-5, but

shooters will work too, depending....

2006-11-15 21:17:39 [Message] Keth : Eskimos just club them

2006-11-15 21:17:41 [Message] COOPER : I use 0 20s 0 40s for soap and get up a little

over 3 stories.

2006-11-15 21:17:47 [Message] russjohnson : Great Steve

2006-11-15 21:18:04 [Message] russjohnson : lol @ Keth

2006-11-15 21:18:12 [Message] squirtgun : m-5,you city giys and all your fancy toys

2006-11-15 21:18:14 [Message] Keth : sorry, meant 0040 for height

2006-11-15 21:18:46 [Message] squirtgun : I have the regular old xjet,and it's still

throwing the chems like it wa snew

2006-11-15 21:19:05 [Message] squirtgun : still have to orginal low pressure tip it

came with

2006-11-15 21:19:08 [Message] donphelps : garden hoses aren't considered pw'ers in

the city, Squirt

2006-11-15 21:19:12 [Message] russjohnson : No moving parts...almost indestructible

2006-11-15 21:19:22 [Message] Keth : 0030 for a little more height and when I really

need to reach I will load the hose with soap and put the 0010 on for the short time it has soap

2006-11-15 21:19:46 [Message] donphelps : try a 40

2006-11-15 21:19:55 [Message] squirtgun : oh great,now something will happen to it,i

started bragging

2006-11-15 21:20:25 [Message] Keth : try a 0040 squirtgun, you will love it, and you

can see where it is going

2006-11-15 21:20:28 [Message] russjohnson : You'll run it over

2006-11-15 21:20:49 [Message] squirtgun : don't even go to GH land,there is a guy

locally doing house washes with a garden hose.

2006-11-15 21:20:52 [Message] donphelps : chappy must be licking his 'republican'

wounds

2006-11-15 21:21:08 [Message] squirtgun : $75,and he uses your hose if you have one

2006-11-15 21:21:16 [Message] squirtgun : moron,I need to shoot him

2006-11-15 21:21:33 [Message] russjohnson : Hey, he's got 110 kids to feed

2006-11-15 21:21:38 [Message] russjohnson : 10

2006-11-15 21:22:15 [Message] squirtgun : maybe i'll paintball him,it fun to watch

them writhe in pain

2006-11-15 21:22:37 [Message] russjohnson : Lots of fly by nighters pop up every

spring...

2006-11-15 21:22:53 [Message] donphelps : .....gotta luv them

2006-11-15 21:23:18 [Message] donphelps : equipment discounts

2006-11-15 21:23:21 [Message] russjohnson : I like the renters...

2006-11-15 21:23:33 [Message] squirtgun : we'll be doing 3 houses in the spring he

did.the idoit left mold and algae in teh gable peaks,told the HO's there was none aroundthat could

get that clean

2006-11-15 21:23:38 [Message] russjohnson : they use it all year, and I still own it

2006-11-15 21:23:56 [Message] donphelps : ......who, Chappy?

2006-11-15 21:23:59 [Message] donphelps : lol

2006-11-15 21:24:08 [Message] russjohnson : Ooooooo...

2006-11-15 21:24:22 [Message] donphelps : lol, j/k!!!

2006-11-15 21:24:54 [Message] russjohnson : What happaned to Chappy....someone kick

his chair.....

2006-11-15 21:24:58 [Message] donphelps : I love my job.....

2006-11-15 21:25:19 [Message] donphelps : He's watching Fox News

2006-11-15 21:25:20 [Message] squirtgun : Russ can i put inline cuts offs in my fuel

lines or will it restrict flow to the engine and burner

2006-11-15 21:25:48 [Message] donphelps : ????

2006-11-15 21:26:04 [Message] Keth : Fox does news? That is news to me.

2006-11-15 21:26:08 [Message] russjohnson : Cut offs? To stop the fuel for a filter

change? Or a solenoid to control fire?

2006-11-15 21:26:29 [Message] donphelps : there ya go....

2006-11-15 21:26:41 [Message] squirtgun : I want to pull the fuel tanks when I pull

teh coil,to do some work on the skid frame and make chaning filters less messy

2006-11-15 21:27:16 [Message] russjohnson : 1/4" ball valves will not impede flow at

all

2006-11-15 21:27:26 [Message] squirtgun : cool

2006-11-15 21:28:11 [Message] squirtgun : will brass work?

2006-11-15 21:28:12 [Message] russjohnson : How long have those tanks been in use?

2006-11-15 21:28:20 [Message] squirtgun : almost 4 yrs

2006-11-15 21:28:25 [Message] russjohnson : brass is great

2006-11-15 21:28:54 [Message] russjohnson : Make sure to get all the sediment out

while you have them off

2006-11-15 21:29:02 [Message] squirtgun : will do

2006-11-15 21:29:38 [Message] squirtgun : I have run off raod diesel since day

one,and I'm sure that tank is nasty

2006-11-15 21:29:59 [Message] russjohnson : You run a Racor filter?

2006-11-15 21:30:03 [Message] squirtgun : yes

2006-11-15 21:30:14 [Message] russjohnson : best thing going

2006-11-15 21:30:14 [Message] squirtgun : change the filter every 3 or 4 months

2006-11-15 21:30:41 [Message] squirtgun : filters and oil change cost me about $30

2006-11-15 21:30:57 [Message] russjohnson : for peace of mind...cheap

2006-11-15 21:31:02 [Message] squirtgun : yes

2006-11-15 21:31:07 [Message] COOPER : I started running off road diesel for the last

4 years. It is just as clean as the reg. diesel.

2006-11-15 21:31:07 [Message] steve kiser : is that the same filter that takes out

the water, or is there another one??

2006-11-15 21:31:19 [Message] russjohnson : that's it

2006-11-15 21:31:36 [Message] russjohnson : got the amber bowl on the bottom

2006-11-15 21:31:58 [Message] steve kiser : ur suppose to change it every 3-4 months

I though u just drained the water out

2006-11-15 21:32:27 [Message] russjohnson : With clean fuel, once a year is

acceptable

2006-11-15 21:32:31 [Message] COOPER : They just add the dye to it so the dot knows

if you are running it in a vehicle. There is no road tax on it.

2006-11-15 21:32:33 [Message] squirtgun : I do it because it peace of mind as Russ

said

2006-11-15 21:32:49 [Message] steve kiser : k cool thks

2006-11-15 21:32:56 [Message] russjohnson : Racors will let you know when they need a

change...no fire

2006-11-15 21:33:02 [Message] squirtgun : but I run off road diesel so the extra cost

keeps me from messing up something

2006-11-15 21:33:08 [Message] steve kiser : how much are they?

2006-11-15 21:33:09 [Message] russjohnson : yeppers

2006-11-15 21:33:25 [Message] russjohnson : the whole filter or the element?

2006-11-15 21:33:48 [Message] squirtgun : I pay $19 from a local tractor supply

house(filter only)

2006-11-15 21:33:50 [Message] steve kiser : prob the whole filte for now

2006-11-15 21:33:59 [Message] donphelps : Time for me to run.....Thanks for a great

chat, Russ. You guys be safe and I look forward to personally meeting those that I haven't.

2006-11-15 21:34:07 [Message] russjohnson : I'll PM ya later

2006-11-15 21:34:16 [Message] russjohnson : Don, be cool, bro

2006-11-15 21:34:18 [Message] squirtgun : later Don,I'll give you a call later

2006-11-15 21:34:19 [Message] COOPER : You wont mess anything up squit. I have always

ran mine till the burner goes out. Then change it.

2006-11-15 21:34:41 [Message] donphelps : Thanks guys.....Be safe!

2006-11-15 21:34:54 [Disconnect] donphelps

2006-11-15 21:35:03 [Message] squirtgun : Coop my stuff always stops on the job

2006-11-15 21:35:17 [Message] squirtgun : I have it happen all too often

2006-11-15 21:35:24 [Message] COOPER : Just keep an extra filter with you

2006-11-15 21:35:27 [Message] squirtgun : had a wiring fire a while back

2006-11-15 21:35:40 [Message] russjohnson : If 3-4 months works for you...why change?

2006-11-15 21:36:04 [Message] squirtgun : Thanks for talking me through that Russ

2006-11-15 21:36:18 [Message] russjohnson : it's what I do...

2006-11-15 21:36:35 [Message] squirtgun : and good at it I might add

2006-11-15 21:36:45 [Login] william gurley

2006-11-15 21:36:45 [iP] william gurley: 71.12.6.125

2006-11-15 21:36:46 [Join Room] william gurley -> Town Meeting

2006-11-15 21:37:23 [Message] russjohnson : Synthetic oil...my thoughts....engine,

good...pump, badd...

2006-11-15 21:37:52 [Message] squirtgun : I have regular Dino in the pump and syn in

teh engine

2006-11-15 21:38:27 [Message] Keth : sorry, had to check out, on kid duty tonight,

thanks for the advice Russ

2006-11-15 21:38:28 [Message] COOPER : I run synthetic in my eng. and change it every

100 hrs.

2006-11-15 21:38:48 [Message] squirtgun : does syn really add extra life to the

engine?

2006-11-15 21:38:53 [Message] russjohnson : Well, the engine has a metal to metal

bearing surface and combustion byproducts

2006-11-15 21:38:58 [Message] russjohnson : yes

2006-11-15 21:39:03 [Message] squirtgun : cool

2006-11-15 21:39:35 [Message] russjohnson : The pump has roller bearings...they need

a ceertain amount of friction to work right

2006-11-15 21:40:04 [Message] squirtgun : I know a lot of people are afraid to switch

from Dino to syn intheir engines,but it will not harm them

2006-11-15 21:40:22 [Message] russjohnson : ********** was supposed to be here..he's

got the beer

2006-11-15 21:40:39 [Message] russjohnson : no, syn is great in an engine

2006-11-15 21:40:50 [Message] COOPER : Anybody every ran a 27" Hydrotek Hydrotwister

on 8 gpm? I just put 8 gpm on my skid, but i think the 1/4" hoses and fittings on the hydrotwister

will hold it back.

2006-11-15 21:41:25 [Message] russjohnson : not by much...nothing you'll notice

2006-11-15 21:41:47 [Message] russjohnson : it's only 4 -5' long

2006-11-15 21:41:48 [Message] squirtgun : I switch our surface cleaner to 3/8" when

the ends broke

2006-11-15 21:42:00 [Message] squirtgun : like Russ said no real difference

2006-11-15 21:42:06 [Message] Keth : I run synth on the recommendation of a friend

who used to be an engineer for a Formula One team, he made a very compelling argument for using it

2006-11-15 21:42:11 [Message] russjohnson : pp brb

2006-11-15 21:42:43 [Disconnect] Keth

2006-11-15 21:42:51 [Message] squirtgun : syn rocks in a gas engine.super long

lasting,less break down and super slick

2006-11-15 21:43:24 [Message] COOPER : Well everybody on here said their surfacers

run so much faster with the 8 gpm. Mine seems the same as 5.5 gpm. Now I can tell a big difference

with the gun.

2006-11-15 21:44:02 [Message] russjohnson : Cooper, did you change the tips?

2006-11-15 21:44:04 [Message] squirtgun : we run 5.5 and I can barely keep up now

2006-11-15 21:44:41 [Message] squirtgun : 8gpm would allow us to run 2 surface

cleaners but then we'll be tripping ober each other

2006-11-15 21:45:03 [Message] squirtgun : besides if there is a hose to ne tangled I

can do

2006-11-15 21:45:26 [Message] russjohnson : 1 surface clean, 1 curb and rinse

2006-11-15 21:45:52 [Message] COOPER : Yea I actually put an 8.5 gpm pump on and I

put 4.5 tips in each side.

2006-11-15 21:46:01 [Message] squirtgun : man are you crazy,give this woman a gun to

wet me with?

2006-11-15 21:46:05 [Message] steve kiser : I was thinking of that maxima but not too

thrilled with the casters, are they the little grey ones?

2006-11-15 21:47:08 [Message] squirtgun : we have a 30" and it's a pain in the rear

end on drive thrus

2006-11-15 21:47:31 [Message] squirtgun : I prefer our floater

2006-11-15 21:47:48 [Message] russjohnson : Little gray ones?

2006-11-15 21:47:57 [Message] russjohnson : Like BE?

2006-11-15 21:48:08 [Disconnect] chappy

2006-11-15 21:48:13 [Message] squirtgun : the 30" weigh 65 and eats lower high temp

bearings

2006-11-15 21:48:22 [Message] squirtgun : I need to sell it for parts to someone

2006-11-15 21:48:28 [Message] russjohnson : What brand 30?

2006-11-15 21:48:46 [Message] squirtgun : steel eagle

2006-11-15 21:48:46 [Message] russjohnson : Whisper?

2006-11-15 21:48:51 [Message] russjohnson : Oh

2006-11-15 21:48:54 [Message] COOPER : How much

2006-11-15 21:49:12 [Message] william gurley : When is someone going to make a

attachement for cleaning curbs.been in the buisness since 85 and havent seen it yet.

2006-11-15 21:49:15 [Message] squirtgun : it's in peices right now,so I would have

aclue coop

2006-11-15 21:49:25 [Message] russjohnson : I had a customer order BE swivels for his

Big Guy...loves them

2006-11-15 21:49:50 [Message] COOPER : All I need is the manifold and arms. Is it 2

or 3 bar.?

2006-11-15 21:50:07 [Message] russjohnson : William...do a Google search for Curby...

2006-11-15 21:50:12 [Message] squirtgun : 2 bar and manifold and arm are bent

2006-11-15 21:50:15 [Message] steve kiser : yeah like the BE

2006-11-15 21:50:19 [Message] william gurley : ok ty

2006-11-15 21:50:21 [Message] russjohnson : It's a neat contraption

2006-11-15 21:50:34 [Message] russjohnson : wether it's worth the money?????

2006-11-15 21:50:38 [Message] COOPER : So are mine. Guess i will just order new ones

2006-11-15 21:50:41 [Message] squirtgun : Curb hopping is bad for them

2006-11-15 21:50:56 [Message] william gurley : did not no such a thing was out there

2006-11-15 21:50:57 [Message] squirtgun : go factory direct

2006-11-15 21:52:55 [Message] squirtgun : Curby is neat but kind of bulky

2006-11-15 21:53:21 [Message] squirtgun : and one more thing to fit on the rig

2006-11-15 21:53:58 [Message] squirtgun : well guys I'm out,Russ great chat.Hope you

have more in the future

2006-11-15 21:54:18 [Message] russjohnson : Scott, take care

2006-11-15 21:54:23 [Message] COOPER : Later Squirtgun

2006-11-15 21:54:24 [Message] squirtgun : night

2006-11-15 21:54:29 [Disconnect] squirtgun

2006-11-15 21:55:09 [Message] russjohnson : Gents, anything else we can address

before the club closes?

2006-11-15 21:55:50 [Message] COOPER : Yall have a good one. I am out.

2006-11-15 21:56:10 [Message] russjohnson : See ya , Cooper. Take care

2006-11-15 21:56:16 [Disconnect] COOPER

2006-11-15 21:56:50 [Message] russjohnson : Steve, William...any other questions?

2006-11-15 21:56:51 [Message] william gurley : yall take care thanks for the

info.time to go sweep some lots.

2006-11-15 21:57:06 [Message] russjohnson : Bye, William...see ya in the board

2006-11-15 21:57:14 [Message] william gurley : se ya

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2006-11-15 21:57:39 [Message] russjohnson : Weel, Steve, I guess the next round is on

you...

2006-11-15 21:59:18 [Message] russjohnson : Steve must've slipped under the

table....ah well.....any time any of you have service questions, feel free to call.

2006-11-15 21:59:35 [Message] russjohnson : Thank you and good night

2006-11-15 21:59:47 [Disconnect] russjohnson

2006-11-15 21:59:50 [Message] steve kiser : nah I am fine for now I will prob hit ya

up in a day or so,

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