Wood Chat Transcript - Wed. Dec. 6th 8pm, 2006

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

19:41:38 [Join Room] Russell_C

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19:59:31 [Message] bethnrod : good evening

19:59:43 [Message] Russell_C : Welcome to wood chat.

20:00:28 [Message] bethnrod : Hope to see some folks in here tonight

20:00:52 [Message] Russell_C : We'll see

20:01:13 [Join Room] davidv

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20:01:27 [Message] bethnrod : Hi david

20:01:30 [Message] Russell_C : Welcom David

20:01:43 [Message] davidv : HELLO ALL

20:02:15 [Message] Russell_C : David, is this your first time joining a chat room?

20:02:24 [Message] davidv : No

20:02:35 [Message] davidv : I was at the roof chats

20:02:47 [Message] davidv : I type real slow

20:02:49 [Message] Russell_C : Ok, good. You can feel free to fire away any questions you've got.

20:03:13 [Message] Russell_C : Slow works good for me

20:03:22 [Message] davidv : I'M real green on decks

20:03:38 [Message] bethnrod : David, do you do any wood care or decks?

20:03:42 [Message] davidv : did some labor 4 learning with Barry M

20:03:47 [Message] bethnrod : lol you beat me to it!

20:04:00 [Message] davidv : mainly decks

20:04:48 [Message] davidv : I hear to learn anything i can

20:05:18 [Message] davidv : 1st roof chat i just soaked it all in

20:05:30 [Message] bethnrod : what kind of decks have you done? PT? Cedar?

20:05:47 [Message] davidv : pt

20:06:21 [Message] davidv : mainly just used pressure...until i found TGS

20:06:36 [Login] Rod

20:06:36 [iP] Rod: 4.185.126.254

20:06:36 [Join Room] Rod

20:06:43 [Message] davidv : diHi rod

20:06:57 [Message] Rod : Hello

20:07:16 [Message] Russell_C : Welcome Rod

20:07:42 [Message] Rod : Thanks Russell, all ok with you?

20:07:56 [Message] Russell_C : Things are well, thanks

20:08:01 [Message] davidv : Have a guy who wants me to remove latex from 2 decks

20:08:05 [Message] Rod : great.

20:08:20 [Message] davidv : any advice on that

20:08:46 [Login] Littlefield

20:08:46 [iP] Littlefield: 66.44.196.131

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20:09:06 [Message] Rod : Hello Rich :)

20:09:09 [Message] Littlefield : Hello, anyone chatting

20:09:09 [Message] Russell_C : Welcome Rich

20:09:17 [Message] Littlefield : There you all are!

20:09:41 [Message] Russell_C : David is looking for a solution for romoving laytex stain from a couple decks

20:09:49 [Message] Littlefield : David, don't recognize your name.

20:09:59 [Message] Rod : davidv: gotta match???

20:10:00 [Message] bethnrod : Hi Rich!

20:10:03 [Message] Littlefield : Doradostrip, no problem

20:10:24 [Message] Rod : JK, what brand latex was it?

20:10:24 [Message] davidv : Thanks

20:10:26 [Message] Littlefield : Spray on at night, leave till next morning, remove with wet vac

20:10:55 [Message] Littlefield : Product will cost you a buck a foot. Are you comfortable with an airless?

20:10:58 [Message] Rod : Never heard o fit Rich, whose product is that?

20:11:10 [Message] davidv : no

20:11:33 [Message] Littlefield : Rod, DoradoChem. It works so good, everytime they go to hit mainstream, someone else private labels it.

20:11:57 [Message] Littlefield : DAvid, that is the best way to apply. Where are you located, near GA

20:12:05 [Message] Littlefield : Near GA?

20:12:14 [Message] davidv : rod lol i finally got it

20:12:21 [Message] Rod : Russ's product should be able to handle it with a little additive, Russ, do you have any input here?

20:12:41 [Message] davidv : I'm from ohio

20:12:48 [Message] Russell_C : Hd-80 with the boost would work

20:13:07 [Message] Littlefield : Much cheaper too.

20:13:16 [Message] davidv : what kind of boost

20:13:19 [Message] Littlefield : I was thinking acrylic, not latex

20:13:55 [Message] Russell_C : I would try straight HD-80 first

20:14:06 [Message] davidv : O.K.

20:14:14 [Message] Russell_C : You probably wouldn't even need to boost it

20:14:28 [Message] Rod : Acrylic's are the boon to wood restoration, I'll tell you right now, get ready for more stuff with it in it.

20:15:44 [Message] Russell_C : Have you been seeing more in the North East?

20:15:50 [Message] bethnrod : Yes!

20:16:08 [Message] Littlefield : ARe they the boon or the bane, Rod?

20:16:56 [Message] Rod : Hey Russ, been seeing more decks lately with tree sap/pitch whatever you want to call it. after stripping, do you have any suggestions to help get more out of the wood?

20:17:05 [Login] BarryM

20:17:05 [iP] BarryM: 71.193.97.146

20:17:06 [Join Room] BarryM

20:17:08 [Message] Rod : OK, bane

20:17:21 [Message] Russell_C : Welcome Barry

20:17:22 [Message] davidv : He also has a dock with sitting area...would it be o.k. for the fish

20:17:29 [Message] BarryM : sup guys

20:17:30 [Message] davidv : Hey BRO

20:17:35 [Message] Russell_C : Rod, is it concentrated or is it in veins?

20:17:36 [Message] BarryM : you too David

20:17:54 [Message] davidv : lol

20:18:00 [Message] Littlefield : Ha, Rod has tree sap in his veins...

20:18:14 [Message] Rod : It is widespread. Like someone took and spread it around all under where the tree overhangs the deck.

20:18:20 [Message] bethnrod : Rod is just a big sweet sap! :)

20:18:35 [Message] Rod : not tree sap, Dr. Pepper!!!

20:18:42 [Message] Littlefield : Rod's been sleeping on the job.

20:18:49 [Message] bethnrod : we have seen sap come off of dripping pine cones too

20:18:59 [Message] Rod : Caught again.

20:19:03 [Message] Rod : dang it

20:19:11 [Message] Rod : tattle tail..

20:19:11 [Message] bethnrod : Hi Barry!1

20:19:15 [Message] BarryM : David r u just lurking?

20:19:19 [Message] davidv : Barry was that HD-80 we used on those decks

20:19:19 [Message] BarryM : hey rod

20:19:31 [Message] Rod : hey barry

20:19:32 [Message] BarryM : no..........Timberstrip

20:19:54 [Message] BarryM : hey is Beth here too

20:20:21 [Message] Rod : I think david is waiting for more feedback on stripping latex

20:20:32 [Message] BarryM : urrrrrrgghhh

20:20:38 [Message] Rod : Yep , she is.

20:20:44 [Message] BarryM : hi Beth

20:21:03 [Message] Littlefield : I like to coat with stripper, cover with .3 mil plastic, and let sit a while.

20:21:06 [Message] Russell_C : David, do you know how many coats you are dealing with?

20:21:22 [Message] davidv : 2 or 3

20:21:42 [Message] Russell_C : I'm with Rich, wait a good 45 min or more

20:21:46 [Message] BarryM : LF does that just keep it wet, so you don't have to keep applying chems?

20:21:58 [Message] Littlefield : It's irritating to keep re-applying the stripper. I'd rather fuzz the wood up, then buff it off quickly, and apply copious amounts of stain to the (now) absorbent wood.

20:22:32 [Message] Littlefield : Yes, wetter is better. Go drink a coke, or beer if you're a painter.

20:22:47 [Message] Rod : I find we always need to defur the deck after stripping anyway so I let the stripper dwell as long as needed.

20:22:54 [Message] Russell_C : Agitating with a brush will also speed the process up

20:22:56 [Message] Littlefield : Bingo

20:23:13 [Message] Littlefield : Bingo to brushing and dwelling and buffing.

20:23:24 [Message] davidv : Great

20:23:37 [Message] Russell_C : When you are dealing with multiple layers, you can often seperate them with agitation rather than waiting for them to fully emulsify

20:23:49 [Message] BarryM : hey David use your dirt killer......lol

20:23:51 [Message] Littlefield : Less labor cost to figure the buffing than try to get the timing exact on a latex or acrylic.

20:24:11 [user Status] Rod -> Away

20:24:36 [Message] Littlefield : And with the brush, you're not getting rid of the stripper like with a presure washer just to find out it's not coming up yet.

20:24:41 [Message] davidv : these are up and down decks

20:24:59 [Message] Littlefield : Two stories?

20:25:08 [Message] davidv : just keep bottom one wet

20:25:14 [Message] davidv : yes

20:26:09 [Message] Russell_C : David, that would depend on the total square footage and if you are going to be able to complete them both in the same day

20:26:42 [Message] davidv : I should be able to. there 16x32

20:26:53 [Message] Littlefield : The product I use on these things is very expensive materials wise, but very cheap on labor. I still think there may be an application for a gel here. The larger the project, the more sequencing comes in to play.

20:26:53 [Message] BarryM : what do you guys defur with, what tool? I have some of those old defurring pads that BethnRod used to sell and I put them on my cordless drill but its a pain.

20:27:10 [Message] Russell_C : Once the chemical has worked, the rinsing off doesn't take very long. Slather them both up at the same time.

20:27:18 [Message] Littlefield : On defurring, makita 9227c with an osborne brush, not pad.

20:27:46 [Message] Littlefield : This time of year, keeping them wet shouldn't be too hard I guess.

20:27:49 [Message] davidv : great...i had thought about that

20:28:05 [Login] aspen contractors

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20:28:09 [Message] Russell_C : Rich, how did you like working with the hang time to slow drying?

20:28:10 [Message] davidv : It'll be late spring

20:28:12 [Message] Littlefield : I was concerned most with the railing system as far as wetting and keeping wet.

20:28:29 [Message] Russell_C : Welcome Aspen

20:28:34 [Message] aspen contractors : Thank you

20:28:40 [Message] davidv : railing on top deck only

20:29:12 [Message] Littlefield : It does work, to slow drying. Just don't add too much. WE turned one 5 gallon pail into jello.

20:29:20 [Message] Rod : If the lower deck is below the upper and gives it a great deal of shade, the lower one will be your greates challenge.

20:29:43 [Message] Rod : oof greatest

20:29:45 [Message] davidv : that's it exactly

20:29:47 [Message] Littlefield : Adding water and mixing just gives you chunks in water.

20:30:03 [Message] Rod : paint strainer will help

20:30:13 [Message] Russell_C : Rich, thats why I don't push that pruduct much. It can be tought to get the hang of

20:30:17 [Message] Littlefield : Aspen, are you from colorado? Jst guessing

20:30:29 [Message] Littlefield : DEck guy or log homes?

20:30:36 [Message] aspen contractors : no wife was from there. we actually reside in maryland

20:30:36 [Message] davidv : bottom has a hot tub on it

20:30:47 [Message] aspen contractors : learning the deck ropes

20:30:49 [Message] Littlefield : Like the name

20:31:01 [Message] aspen contractors : thank you

20:31:14 [Message] Rod : russ, I have tried adding a foaming agent to hd-80 and it acts like a thickener but with the effect of making it keep from drying so fast and it clings better.

20:31:43 [Message] Rod : Where in Maryland?

20:31:49 [Message] aspen contractors : aberdeen

20:31:52 [Message] Russell_C : There are several foamers that you can add once it is in a liqud solution that will work

20:31:54 [Message] aspen contractors : northeast

20:31:54 [Message] Littlefield : Anyone try using one of the Stuttner guns to really get the foam going like the Kec guys?

20:32:09 [Message] Rod : anyone in particular that you suggest?

20:32:20 [Message] bethnrod : Hi Rob!!!

20:32:23 [Message] Russell_C : You have to be careful not to get ahold of one with the wrong surfactant type or you will find yourself rinsing forever.

20:32:26 [Message] aspen contractors : hey beth

20:32:30 [Message] Littlefield : I guess Matt Bryan would be the one to ask

20:32:43 [Message] Rod : noted!

20:33:07 [Message] BarryM : Does anyone DS their stripper?

20:33:26 [Message] Russell_C : We make a stripper designed to be downstreamed

20:33:36 [Message] Littlefield : Talking to a guy today that has a blasting media that is microbialcidal, is that a word?

20:33:37 [Message] Russell_C : it is safer than DS something like HD-80

20:33:38 [Message] Rod : no, we use a pumptec sprayer for all stripping applications

20:34:04 [Message] Rod : you mean antimicrobial?

20:34:20 [Message] Russell_C : He means they soak the cob in enzymes

20:34:34 [Message] aspen contractors : rod od is pumptec and certain kind?

20:34:34 [Message] Littlefield : Its proprietary, but I'll keep you guys posted, he's supposed to be releasing it soon.

20:34:47 [Message] Russell_C : or they've empregnated it with an anti-microbial

20:34:49 [Message] Littlefield : Rod, thats right, and Russ, I don't think its cob.

20:35:01 [Message] Littlefield : I'm thinking bakin soda with extras

20:35:11 [Message] Rod : the decker 5'er. We have the cart version and the pump set up only versions.

20:35:24 [Message] Russell_C : I have seen that done with blasting media for dams and hydro electric plants

20:35:49 [Message] BarryM : David u need to come over for some more deck lessons?

20:35:50 [Message] Littlefield : baking soda is used for mold remediation

20:36:08 [Message] Russell_C : they will use cob in those cases because it ois much easier to recover

20:37:08 [Message] Russell_C : Rich I spoke to someone from your neck of the woods today

20:37:09 [Message] davidv : Why more honeydo lists lol

20:37:23 [Message] Littlefield : Boil the water, and you have quick made grits, right?

20:37:37 [Message] Russell_C : They were talking about cob blasting a house

20:37:39 [Message] Rod : davidv ????

20:37:44 [Message] BarryM : I got 12 to do this spring

20:37:45 [Message] Littlefield : Russ, really?

20:37:51 [Message] Russell_C : yes

20:38:33 [Message] Russell_C : You are in/near Ellijay right?

20:38:37 [Message] davidv : did Barry's honey do list on my labor 4 learning

20:38:40 [Message] Littlefield : I'd offer to help, but I've got two going right now.

20:39:03 [Message] Littlefield : yeah, right in Ellijay, r u serious?

20:39:12 [Message] Littlefield : or is it me?

20:39:15 [Message] Russell_C : Well sure

20:39:22 [Message] Russell_C : no, it's not you

20:39:43 [Message] Littlefield : If they aren't cheap, I don';t mind...

20:39:59 [Message] davidv : Maybe, Barry we'll see

20:40:26 [Message] Littlefield : Are they new in the biz? Shoot me an email I'll see if I know them. Rare if I don't. I try to keep up.

20:40:56 [Message] BarryM : I know you'll be busy too, just would be cool to hook up again.

20:41:09 [Message] Russell_C : Rich, I'm sure you know of them

20:41:12 [Message] davidv : No doubt

20:41:31 [Message] Rod : david must have done well in helping Barry with his honey doo list!

20:41:32 [Message] bethnrod : Is that the one in GA I sent to you today Russ?

20:41:53 [Message] bethnrod : Someone in GA called looking for HD today

20:42:00 [Message] Russell_C : Yes, the woman did mention your name

20:42:09 [Message] BarryM : anyone here use an airless for sealing? If so what brand do u like

20:42:20 [Message] bethnrod : If it is for logs send her back!!!

20:42:44 [Message] Rod : I have a wagner 3500psi, actually, 2 of them

20:42:57 [Message] Rod : I use it for applying solid stainds.

20:43:04 [Join Room] CarolinaProWash

20:43:08 [Message] aspen contractors : Barry i have used an wagner HVLP on lattice

20:43:22 [Message] bethnrod : Well it's about time woman!

20:43:34 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Sorry

20:43:40 [Message] Littlefield : Fashionably late.

20:43:47 [Message] bethnrod : Isn't she?

20:43:50 [Message] Russell_C : Welcome Celeste

20:44:23 [Message] BarryM : I was looking at a Titian 440I today, pretty nice.

20:44:28 [Message] Rod : Hey Celeste, tell Roger to put down the remote and get on the keys, ya lazy dog! :)

20:44:40 [Message] Littlefield : I love my Titan 440I

20:44:46 [Message] CarolinaProWash : We have a 440I - but it's collecting dust :)

20:44:55 [Message] Littlefield : when its not in the shop

20:44:59 [Message] Littlefield : J/K

20:45:13 [Message] Littlefield : First one I had 4 years before packings went

20:45:32 [Message] Littlefield : Celeste, take it off your hands?

20:45:58 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Not quite yet......I think we'll still find some use for it.

20:46:15 [Message] BarryM : brb

20:46:31 [Message] Littlefield : Darn, last week someting on the circuit board went on mine, a first for me.

20:47:03 [Message] Russell_C : I hear the old paint pots are making a comeback

20:47:19 [Message] Littlefield : Same week, my high boy lost a seal, and deckster pump went out, driving me nuts

20:47:28 [Message] Littlefield : Russ, hvlp?

20:47:44 [Message] Russell_C : Yeah, but the old schllo type

20:47:46 [Message] Littlefield : Got a 2.5 gallon pot, now THATS gathering dust.

20:47:52 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Roger hasn't played with his deckster in a while either.....the Deck Beast is handling everything :)

20:47:53 [Message] Rod : this year has been the year of breakdowns and equipment repairs.

20:48:14 [Message] Littlefield : Nothing I could do with that that I can't do with an airless and a fine finish tip faster.

20:48:59 [Message] Russell_C : I will take that argumet

20:49:00 [Message] aspen contractors : How does everyone apply sealer? I know that kind of sounds stupid but curious

20:49:00 [Message] CarolinaProWash : BRB - need to help Rog get logged in :)

20:49:42 [Message] Littlefield : Russ, agree or not?

20:50:01 [Message] Russell_C : I would be willing to argue with you on that point

20:50:10 [Login] Roger

20:50:10 [iP] Roger: 24.167.128.231

20:50:10 [Join Room] Roger

20:50:25 [Message] Rod : decker by pumptec is what we apply with. follow up with a stain pad for uniformity .

20:50:41 [Message] Roger : Hi all

20:50:42 [Message] Littlefield : I've sprayed doors, trim, decks, polyurethane, paint, and still, a 209 in my airless is less overspray, and more volume.

20:50:54 [Message] Rod : oh s***T, he logged in....uh, hey Roger, uh what's up?

20:51:03 [Message] Russell_C : I am thinking specificly for staining homes

20:51:11 [Message] Roger : Not much

20:51:18 [Message] Russell_C : Welcome Roger

20:51:19 [Message] Littlefield : Too slow,

20:51:37 [Message] CarolinaProWash : I know our staining set up went considerably faster than applying with the deckster

20:51:48 [Message] Littlefield : unless you're using something different than what I used.

20:52:05 [Message] Littlefield : It was hurry up and wait all day long

20:52:10 [Message] Roger : Well Russell what about the stain rig we used

20:52:18 [Message] Russell_C : I can honestly say, I have never seen anything stain faster than Rogers set up

20:52:27 [Message] Rod : what is that ???

20:52:35 [Join Room] bigchaz

20:52:36 [Message] Roger : the wood beast

20:52:39 [Message] CarolinaProWash : It's the Wood Beast!!!!

20:52:49 [Message] Rod : who makes it?

20:52:52 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Roger

20:52:56 [Message] Rod : out of?>

20:52:57 [Message] Littlefield : I'll agree, and I haven't seen it in action, just sitting still it looks fast

20:53:00 [Message] Russell_C : I don't think you could apply stain any faster

20:53:21 [Message] Rod : hello bigchaz

20:53:25 [Message] Littlefield : Its a stain pumping pressure washer type thingy

20:53:28 [Message] bigchaz : Howdy

20:53:31 [Message] Roger : Rod I will show you the beast when you come down

20:53:33 [Message] Rod : lol

20:53:54 [Message] Russell_C : Roger really took it to the next level with that design

20:54:05 [Message] Roger : thanks

20:54:05 [Message] Rod : ok, are you going to start manufacturing them and putting 666 on them??? lol

20:54:10 [Message] Russell_C : It's not for the faint of heart though

20:54:39 [Message] Rod : that's funny

20:54:43 [Message] CarolinaProWash : The washer end of it ain't too shabby either :)

20:55:13 [Message] Roger : Not 666, maybe a Tazmanian Devil with a staining gun in its hand

20:55:16 [Message] Russell_C : Yeah, but I have seen bigger, stronger, faster washers

20:55:48 [Message] Littlefield : With that soft touch , though, Russ?

20:56:02 [Message] Russell_C : I about had a heart attach when i did the math on the machine he was building. Then to see it in action was awsome.

20:56:11 [Message] CarolinaProWash : :)

20:56:22 [Message] aspen contractors : must be really impressive

20:56:26 [Message] Littlefield : Rog got done lat year what I was supposed to get built.

20:56:43 [Message] Littlefield : Go ahead, Roger brag a little.

20:56:54 [Message] Roger : It's not pretty but it works well

20:57:10 [Message] Littlefield : I like just thinking about waht people look like while thinking of it.

20:57:18 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Not pretty is the understatement of the year!

20:57:23 [Message] Roger : lol

20:57:26 [Message] Russell_C : I watched a two story wall about 30 foot wide get stained in record time

20:58:06 [Message] Russell_C : While holding a camera and laughing my butt off

20:58:25 [Message] CarolinaProWash : You never held that camera....the tripod did! LOL

20:58:42 [Message] Russell_C : Well, I leaned on it and looked real cool

20:58:48 [Message] Roger : I would say it out prayed the decker 5 hand down. Russ just think if I was to put the second gun on it.

20:58:50 [Message] aspen contractors : sounds like video clips are needed

20:59:10 [Message] Littlefield : Ditto

20:59:11 [Message] CarolinaProWash : There is some video somewhere......

20:59:14 [Message] Russell_C : I would say that it does the work of 3 - 4 deckers

20:59:29 [Message] Littlefield : See you on youtube

20:59:34 [Message] Russell_C : No doubt if you add the second gun

20:59:41 [Message] Rod : so what are we talking about in GPM and PSI?

21:00:22 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Have to go back somewhere and look.....hang on :)

21:00:27 [Message] aspen contractors : sounds like we are talking a 2000 sq ft home in what about 45 minutes time? setup included?

21:00:28 [Message] BarryM : i'm back........hi Celeste hi Roger

21:01:12 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Hi Barry

21:01:56 [Disconnect] Roger

21:02:20 [Join Room] roger

21:02:23 [Message] Russell_C : If it were single story, everything was set up and Celeste would stay out of his way, I would put $100.00 down that Roger could stain it in 45 min

21:02:41 [Message] CarolinaProWash : *whip*

21:02:51 [Message] aspen contractors : :o

21:03:05 [Message] BarryM : lol

21:03:16 [Message] BarryM : do it again

21:03:22 [Message] Russell_C : The idea isn't to work fast though. It is to work efficiently

21:03:24 [Message] CarolinaProWash : I was NOT in the way....I was taking pictures !*whip*

21:03:43 [Message] bethnrod : *whip*

21:03:56 [Message] BarryM : thank you sir may I have another

21:04:04 [Message] aspen contractors : true

21:04:04 [Message] CarolinaProWash : *meow*

21:04:09 [Message] roger : the pressure is 300 psi (adj) and I think that the gpm is close to 2.5 or 3

21:04:10 [Message] Russell_C : I'm just saying, I have never seen anyone roll around on the ground with the neighbors puppy on a job site before.

21:04:16 [Message] BarryM : u guys are too much

21:04:16 [Message] Rod : no!

21:04:53 [Message] CarolinaProWash : I'll bet Max has gotten big now :)

21:04:53 [Message] aspen contractors : ok now who did the meow? my cats are flipping...lol

21:05:06 [Message] CarolinaProWash : *bird*

21:05:11 [Message] bethnrod : *meow*

21:05:12 [Message] aspen contractors : oh no

21:05:14 [Message] davidv : Thanks alot. Gotta go

21:05:25 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Don't go.....we'll get back on task

21:05:29 [Message] Russell_C : Thanks for joining David

21:05:30 [Message] BarryM : Beth your over the top

21:05:34 [Message] bethnrod : ok everyone talk about wood again before we lose the room!

21:05:49 [Message] bethnrod : thanks Barry! :)

21:06:03 [Message] BarryM : he was leaving anyway see ya David

21:06:05 [Disconnect] davidv

21:06:15 [Message] BarryM : we just got off the phone together

21:06:23 [Message] BarryM : bedtime for him

21:06:30 [Message] roger : the only bad thing about the washer is @ 9.7 gpm I have to wait sometimes.

21:06:36 [Message (Priv.)] Russell_C -> Littlefield: I appreciate the heads up

21:06:57 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Isn't he from NC Barry? Maybe he'll hook up with us sometime.

21:06:58 [Message] aspen contractors : roger your washer is 9.7 gpm? whats the psi?

21:07:01 [Message] Russell_C : I have a hydrant adaptor I will sell you

21:07:08 [Message] roger : max 1500

21:07:14 [Message] BarryM : Celeste he's from OH

21:07:15 [Message] CarolinaProWash : We can't play with the hydrants here Russ

21:07:19 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Oh okay

21:07:23 [Message] aspen contractors : nice

21:07:26 [Message] BarryM : thinking about moving to Mertle Beach

21:07:35 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Cool :)

21:08:00 [Message] BarryM : he is, not me

21:08:06 [Message] roger : I made it just for wood so I didn't see no reason for really high pressure.

21:08:07 [Message] BarryM : too much competition for me

21:08:07 [Message] CarolinaProWash : still cool

21:08:20 [Message] bethnrod : *choochoo*

21:08:41 [Message] BarryM : hey you scared my dog.....lol

21:09:03 [Message] Littlefield : *slap*

21:09:07 [Message] bethnrod : *evil*

21:09:13 [Message] CarolinaProWash : *whip*

21:09:13 [Message] aspen contractors : i am thinking of doing something (on my already owned landscape trailer)

21:09:27 [Message] CarolinaProWash : That's what we're all mounted on....

21:09:31 [Message] Littlefield : Hey this is fun *whip*

21:09:40 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Put the whip down Rich!

21:09:55 [Message] aspen contractors : only problem is me and the wife fight over what gets in the garage during wonter months

21:10:01 [Message] BarryM : It's better when the girls do it

21:10:13 [Message] aspen contractors : oops winter

21:10:13 [Message] Rod : whip it good, into shape, shape it up, uh, ok I'll quit.

21:10:13 [Message] Littlefield : Agreed.

21:10:25 [Message] bethnrod : *evil* *whip*

21:10:37 [Message] BarryM : who sings that song Rod?

21:10:44 [Message] aspen contractors : de vo

21:10:46 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Devoo

21:10:53 [Message] Rod : Devo

21:10:53 [Message] Littlefield : *beep* *beep*

21:10:53 [Message] BarryM : lets leave it that way

21:10:55 [Message] BarryM : hehe

21:11:00 [Message] Rod : oops Devo

21:11:16 [Message] CarolinaProWash : hey....that's my misspelling!

21:11:35 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Aspen.....winterizing for leaving outside isn't too bad

21:11:39 [Message] Rod : that was a proxy ooops

21:11:46 [Message] BarryM : how do you guys price a two tone deck?

21:11:55 [Message] BarryM : hourly?

21:11:55 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Expensive!!!

21:12:05 [Message] Littlefield : don't

21:12:10 [Message] roger : 30 to 40 % more

21:12:16 [Message] Littlefield : Sorry, not many nice decks here.

21:12:18 [Message] Russell_C : Double for the rails

21:12:23 [Message] CarolinaProWash : I think ours is an increase of 30-40% more

21:12:42 [Message] BarryM : cool

21:12:47 [Message] Littlefield : Do like the cedar round spindles and railings though, and have done them in two shades of stain.

21:13:12 [Message] Russell_C : I just did a cedar rail with iron panels

21:13:40 [Message] Russell_C : they were siloette cut outs of landscapes

21:13:51 [Message] roger : cool

21:13:57 [Message] BarryM : pics?

21:14:16 [Disconnect] bigchaz

21:14:16 [Message] Russell_C : Yeah, I can post them on TGS

21:14:28 [Message] Russell_C : I will post them in the Photo contest.

other than when you first start up, the excess coming out i mean.

21:14:33 [Message] Russell_C : Maybe I will win!

21:14:34 [Message] BarryM : please do Russell

21:14:38 [Message] CarolinaProWash : I just lost the whole page!

21:14:56 [Message] roger : :D :D :D

21:15:01 [Message] CarolinaProWash : NO WAY - you are automatically disqualified.....

21:15:29 [Message] BarryM : y u lose page

21:15:44 [Message] CarolinaProWash : I pushed a button on the row and poof - everything was GONE

21:15:51 [Message] BarryM : Roger's messin with u Celeste

21:15:54 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Don't use the 3rd button from the right

21:15:59 [Message] Russell_C : I am not! I read the fine print and it doesn't say anything about employees or their families

21:16:15 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Bring it then!

21:16:29 [user Status] Littlefield -> Away

21:16:43 [Message] Russell_C : You've seen my camera skills. I've got nothing

21:16:45 [user Status] Littlefield -> Online

21:17:02 [Message] BarryM : Celeste......u guys gonna make it to Don's RT?

21:17:05 [Message] CarolinaProWash : No comment :)

21:17:21 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Oh, that wasn't for Barry - that was for Russell!

21:17:27 [Message] BarryM : I know

21:17:28 [Message] Littlefield : I jsut get so excited working, I forget to take pics. Now I have a calm guy that wroks for me get the shots.

21:17:49 [Message] roger : lol

21:17:56 [Message] CarolinaProWash : We want to - not certain if we'll be able to pull it off with ours 2 weeks before and Toms 2 weeks after! Gotta work sometime!

21:18:00 [Message] Littlefield : Next RT in area?

21:18:10 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Greensboro NC on Feb 10th

21:18:24 [Message] CarolinaProWash : St. Louis on Feb 24th

21:18:25 [Message] Littlefield : Greensboro in feb, huh? I'll check my schedule.

21:18:25 [Message (Priv.)] Russell_C -> bethnrod: What is the target output for file sises on TGS?

21:18:34 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Easton PA on March 10th/11th

21:18:38 [Message] roger : like to see you there

21:18:39 [Message] BarryM : I know what u mean

21:18:43 [Message] Littlefield : St L, thats a hike

21:18:51 [Message] CarolinaProWash : We can carpool :)

21:19:00 [Message] Littlefield : Truck pool

21:19:07 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Suburban pool

21:19:11 [Join Room] pressureprosinc

21:19:11 [Login] pressureprosinc

21:19:11 [iP] pressureprosinc: 68.80.169.65

21:19:27 [Message] pressureprosinc : hello everyone

21:19:30 [Message] aspen contractors : newbie question, are the round tables better (more informative) than the PWNA / ***** conventions?

21:19:39 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Uh, yeah.

21:19:43 [Message] roger : YES

21:19:49 [Message] Russell_C : Hello Pressure Pros

21:19:52 [Message] BarryM : welcome

21:19:55 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Hi

21:19:57 [Message] roger : hi

21:20:01 [Message (Priv.)] Russell_C -> bethnrod: jpeg

21:20:05 [Message] Littlefield : These RT's are unbelieveable, I can't believe how there are so many and informally setup.

21:20:18 [Message] Littlefield : I was really bummed to mis the vogel's

21:20:21 [Message] Rod : Hey Ken

21:20:28 [Message] aspen contractors : me too Littlefield

21:20:34 [Message] Littlefield : Hey ken

21:20:36 [Message] BarryM : is it Mr. Fenner

21:20:37 [Message] CarolinaProWash : It was great :)

21:20:42 [Message] pressureprosinc : that was my first one.. much to take in

21:20:50 [Message] Littlefield : BEst part?

21:20:55 [Message] CarolinaProWash : THE FOOD

21:20:57 [Message] aspen contractors : thats how i felt with the ***** last year

21:21:03 [Message] Littlefield : product info?

21:21:18 [Message] Littlefield : food is good

21:21:22 [Message] aspen contractors : but after all the talk it really sounds like the RT are "more personaable" should i say?

21:21:31 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Flood had a lot of stuff, Ready Seal, V-Seal, and other stuff

21:21:46 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Definitely more attendee friendly!

21:22:01 [Message] pressureprosinc : The only thing I didn't like about the vendor presentations was the atmosphere.. too many distractions

21:22:06 [Message (Priv.)] Littlefield -> CarolinaProWash: Celeste, roger tell you that weatherall is on board?

21:22:20 [Message] BarryM : RT's are more laid back

21:22:31 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Rich - yes :)

21:22:52 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Ken, that may have been a matter of location

21:22:58 [Message] Rod : Yeah, there were a few distractions, but I got over them

21:23:25 [Message] pressureprosinc : I think the format of the St Louis meeting is going to be more my style

21:23:36 [Message] Rod : I just love talking to people though. It's great to finally meet face to face.

21:23:38 [Message] Littlefield : Gotta go set up new computer armoire, wifes tired of looking at home pc.

21:23:40 [Message] roger : hey Ken give me a call

21:23:47 [Message] Littlefield : See yall

21:23:51 [Message] BarryM : see ya

21:23:54 [Message] pressureprosinc : se ya Rich, have a good night

21:23:54 [Message] Russell_C : G'night Rich

21:23:55 [Message] aspen contractors : see ya

21:23:55 [user Status] Littlefield -> Away

21:23:58 [Message] roger : bye

21:23:58 [Message] Rod : cya rich

21:24:05 [Message] pressureprosinc : right now Roger or tommorrow?

21:24:11 [Disconnect] Littlefield

21:24:32 [Message] roger : anytime is fine

21:24:40 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Russell.....you going to make any of the RT's?

21:24:58 [Message] pressureprosinc : If your not busy tommorow I'll ring you.

21:25:04 [Message] roger : ok

21:25:19 [Message] Russell_C : Yeah, I plan to make a few this year

21:25:32 [Message] BarryM : Aren't you in STL Russell

21:25:33 [Message] roger : this year is over

21:25:38 [Message] Russell_C : I think I would be shot if I missed the St Louis one

21:25:50 [Message] Russell_C : Maybe for you Roger

21:26:00 [Message] Russell_C : I still have over 20 days on my calander

21:26:01 [Message] pressureprosinc : I'm looing forward to meting you Russell

21:26:09 [Message] roger : I'm still working

21:26:18 [Message] BarryM : same here Russell

21:26:33 [Message] BarryM : looking forward to meeting everyone

21:26:37 [Message] Russell_C : I always enjoy meeting new people at the round tables

21:26:49 [Message] roger : that is fun

21:26:56 [Message] aspen contractors : trying to do flatwork still....but days are hit and miss.

21:27:13 [Message] BarryM : You have accounts Aspen?

21:27:16 [Message] aspen contractors : yes

21:27:19 [Message] pressureprosinc : My stuff is in storage

21:27:39 [Message] BarryM : just not enough?

21:27:56 [Message] BarryM : accounts

21:28:23 [Message (Priv.)] BarryM -> aspen contractors: cool

21:28:30 [Message] pressureprosinc : Roger is your number on your TGS profile?

21:28:37 [Message] roger : yes

21:29:12 [Message] pressureprosinc : alright cool. I'll call you around 11 am. I am headin out. Goodnight all

21:29:20 [Message] aspen contractors : good night

21:29:22 [Message] Rod : gnite

21:29:25 [Message] CarolinaProWash : night Ken

21:30:01 [Grant Admin] bethnrod -> CarolinaProWash

21:30:09 [Message] Rod : Folks, it has been a long day, have a great chat and I'll see you all later.

21:30:12 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Barry, how far are you from STL ?

21:30:20 [Message] Russell_C : Night Rod

21:30:26 [Message] aspen contractors : good night rod

21:30:26 [Message] roger : night Rod

21:30:31 [Message] BarryM : 5.5 hours

21:30:43 [Message] roger : ?

21:30:54 [Message] CarolinaProWash : G

21:31:02 [Message] CarolinaProWash : ood night Gimpy

21:31:08 [Message] bethnrod : Nite Rob!

21:31:08 [Disconnect] Rod

21:31:16 [Message] aspen contractors : night Beth

21:31:23 [Message] bethnrod : I'll tell him for you Celeste

21:31:41 [Message] bethnrod : Gimpy Rod says good night folks.

21:32:07 [Message] bethnrod : :)

21:32:15 [Message] Russell_C : Barry, I uploaded those pictures for you

reserach

21:32:32 [Disconnect] bethnrod

21:32:37 [Message] BarryM : Cool

21:32:50 [Message] Russell_C : I am no photographer

21:32:52 [Message] CarolinaProWash : What pictures.....where???

21:33:05 [Message] Russell_C : In the contest Blondie

21:33:21 [Message] roger : Russ is there still snow on the ground

21:33:36 [Message] Russell_C : Are you asking because you think it will upset me?

21:33:39 [Message] CarolinaProWash : I am NOT blonde...and I saw them :) Nice

21:33:46 [Message] Russell_C : I've made my peace with nature

21:34:15 [Message] Russell_C : We have about 3 crusty inches that look like they are going to be here a while

21:34:16 [Message] CarolinaProWash : *bird*

21:34:22 [Message (Priv.)] BarryM -> aspen contractors: resi is good for 6 months

21:34:28 [Message] CarolinaProWash : *bird*

21:34:50 [Message] Russell_C : If you are flipping that bird for me, my speakers are off

21:34:55 [Message] CarolinaProWash : If we get home early enough tomorrow I'll get some more pics up in the resto contest thread

21:35:08 [Message] Russell_C : That contest is just about over

21:35:09 [Message] CarolinaProWash : It's chirping for you - as a sign of good nature :)

21:35:27 [Message] BarryM : whip it one more time

21:35:29 [Message] CarolinaProWash : You can't end it until we get all the stain on that purple heart - I demand an extension!

21:35:31 [Message] Russell_C : I put my good nature under lock and key when you are around

21:35:38 [Message] CarolinaProWash : *whip*

21:35:46 [Message] BarryM : oooooh

21:35:51 [Message] BarryM : I'm naughty

21:36:01 [Message] CarolinaProWash : *whip* *whip*

21:36:08 [Message] Russell_C : Ok, Celeste, this isn't that kind of chat room

21:36:14 [Message] aspen contractors : lol

21:36:16 [Message] roger : *whip* *slap* *whip*

21:36:22 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Hey, my husband is here!

21:36:45 [Message] BarryM : that's not right

21:36:49 [Message] CarolinaProWash : What is the end date on the contest?

21:37:07 [Message] Russell_C : Look, I don't care what kind of perverted dungeon you are in, that stuff doesn't fly on TGS

21:37:24 [Message] Russell_C : I'm not sure, check it out when you go up to post pictures

21:37:37 [Message] CarolinaProWash : oh all right

21:38:16 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Dang - it ends on 12/20! That's next week or something isn't it?

21:38:31 [Message] Russell_C : 12/ 20?

21:38:47 [Message] Russell_C : You better get to posting

21:38:48 [Message] CarolinaProWash : weel after next

21:38:54 [Message] CarolinaProWash : oops week

21:39:07 [Message] CarolinaProWash : we need to be staining, not posting!

21:39:45 [Message] CarolinaProWash : I meant between now and the 20th silly man

21:40:00 [Message] roger : ooooh

21:40:09 [Message] Russell_C : I'm just saying, next time you are laying around eating bon bons you could take a moment to post a picture that might be worth over $2,500.00 in free product

21:40:35 [Message] CarolinaProWash : We can't afford bonbons - it's cheerios for me :)

21:40:54 [Message] Russell_C : Not even a moon pie?

21:40:57 [Message] aspen contractors : you guys are too much

21:41:13 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Are you out of moon pies Russell?

21:41:15 [Message] aspen contractors : oh no the moon pies came out....*)

21:41:23 [Message] roger : Moon pies and RC cola

21:41:25 [Message] BarryM : im eating pork and beans all winter

21:41:29 [Message] BarryM : too cold to work

21:41:31 [Message] Russell_C : I am in a curent state of longing for the moon pie

21:42:00 [Message] aspen contractors : i have been stuck on the snickeres ice cream bars

21:42:02 [Message] roger : is that hint Russ

21:42:19 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Good fiber and protein Barry :)

21:42:24 [Message] Russell_C : It's not a hint, but the holidays are just around the courner

21:42:35 [Message] roger : :D

21:42:36 [Message] Russell_C : coincidentally close to the judging of the photo contest

21:42:53 [Message] roger : :o

21:43:04 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Aspen - it's too cold for frozen food!

21:43:14 [Message] Russell_C : How do you make an innocent whistle noise?

21:43:24 [Message] roger : What about the good old Capt. Morgan

21:43:47 [Message] Russell_C : Argghh Capt. Morgan and Moon Pies

21:43:52 [Message] aspen contractors : never celeste

21:43:58 [Message] roger : *choochoo*

21:44:20 [Message] roger : *harp*

21:44:27 [Message] aspen contractors : i hung lights monday night....30 degrees out. came in and yelled as the wife had 3 blankets and coffe on the couch

21:44:45 [Message] aspen contractors : lol...i went and concoled with my snickers...lol

21:44:53 [Message] roger : lol

21:45:01 [Message] aspen contractors : you would have thought i had a horn coming out of my forehead

21:45:05 [Message] BarryM : hung light this evening while being barked at by wife

21:45:09 [Message] Russell_C : Ain't much a moon pie can't fix

21:45:13 [Message] BarryM : I hate xmas

21:45:52 [Message] aspen contractors : first time i think she called me a freak

21:45:54 [Message] aspen contractors : lol

21:45:57 [Message] CarolinaProWash : We finally got our tree decorated couple days ago...outside of the house looks BAD (bare)

21:46:11 [Message] BarryM : bare is GOOD

21:46:21 [Message] aspen contractors : first time i hung lights in 7 years (outside that is)

21:46:30 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Wait until you see the pics I post of the Christmas light farm in SC!

21:46:36 [Message] Russell_C : I hung a bell on millie for the season. Thats it for me

21:46:44 [Message] aspen contractors : lol

21:46:50 [Message] roger : lol

21:46:52 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Poor Millie!

21:47:00 [Message] Russell_C : She loves it

21:47:11 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Millie loves everything!

21:47:34 [Message] Russell_C : When I put it on her she walks around like she's bringing sexy back

21:47:45 [Message] CarolinaProWash : lol

21:47:46 [Message] Russell_C : She really thinks shes something

21:47:55 [Message] BarryM : too funny

21:48:04 [Message] BarryM : you go girl

21:48:10 [Message] aspen contractors : i came home last week and the wife went to walmart or target and got the cats xmas outfits...we have a munchkin (dwarf) that looks like a butter ball turkey with hair. hers wouldnt fit (not round enough) and it would slide around like a bib

21:48:31 [Message] CarolinaProWash : You have to get pics of that!

21:48:34 [Message] aspen contractors : ok i have to ask who's millie?

21:48:43 [Message] roger : the dog

21:48:45 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Russell is Millie's person

21:48:57 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Shhh....she is not aware that she is a canine

21:49:05 [Message] aspen contractors : my wife asked if i could make extra velcro strap extensions....i almost lost it...lol

21:49:12 [Message] CarolinaProWash : LOLOLOL

21:49:14 [Message] aspen contractors : i see

21:49:17 [Message] BarryM : no way

21:49:18 [Message] roger : lol

21:49:25 [Message] aspen contractors : lol...sounds like our 1 yr old kitten

21:49:39 [Message] aspen contractors : i think someone gives him crack before i get home.

21:49:44 [Message] Russell_C : Millie is a stray I took in a few years ago to be my guard dog

21:49:52 [Message] Russell_C : She is a vicious pit bull

21:50:00 [Message] roger : right

21:50:02 [Message] CarolinaProWash : yeah right

21:50:38 [Message] Russell_C : Well, she is

21:50:44 [Message] roger : maybe to other dogs she is

21:50:56 [Message] BarryM : we have a giant shnauzer

21:50:58 [Message] CarolinaProWash : unless they're cute bassett puppies

21:51:03 [Message] BarryM : maybe they could play together

21:51:17 [Message] aspen contractors : lol...

21:51:23 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Hey, I'll bring the 115 lb boxer and two strung out labs!

21:51:31 [Message] BarryM : sweet

21:51:52 [Message] roger : she did run them other dogs off for me. I didn't like the looks of the two dogs that she ran off.

21:52:11 [Message] BarryM : I call mine "the bearded goat bi tch

21:52:21 [Message] BarryM : she looks like a goat

21:52:35 [Message] aspen contractors : our kitten head butts me if he isnt fed at 5am exactly. he climbs all the door jams in the house and holds at the top and will look at you. he swats at my wife all the time. but if i move towards him he runs like hes being hunted...lol.

21:52:59 [Message] BarryM : animals are weird

21:53:09 [Message] Russell_C : I remember that, they were sort of packing up on you

21:53:25 [Message] BarryM : we used to have a mini poodle that would always poop in my shoes

21:53:26 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Too bad they didn't know that Roger bites!

21:53:31 [Message] roger : yeah

21:53:34 [Message] aspen contractors : lol

21:53:39 [Message] CarolinaProWash : euwwww

21:53:46 [Message] Russell_C : Celeste, check out the thread : How are you folks in St Louis doing

21:53:59 [Message] BarryM : and I though it was my feet that smelled

21:54:17 [Message] aspen contractors : is anyone else going to the PWNA or ***** conventions this year?

21:54:23 [Message] CarolinaProWash : There's that vicious girl!

21:54:25 [Message] BarryM : not me

21:54:37 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Aspen - we won't be

21:54:44 [Message] CarolinaProWash : PWNA convention was cancelled

21:54:56 [Message] aspen contractors : i thought they changed it to vegas?

21:54:56 [Message] Russell_C : I might catch the *****

21:55:23 [Message] CarolinaProWash : There's no info anywhere - they're not even listed as exhibitors for NADRA/Deck Expo

21:55:36 [Message] aspen contractors : i aam feeling weird about these assoc. i havent rec'd anything from neither one

21:56:10 [Message] CarolinaProWash : We didn't bother to renew with PWNA - will stay on with *****

21:56:28 [Message] aspen contractors : i did like the ***** one last year....thought it was good couple days spent learning. and of course meeting with others than have been doing this much longer

21:56:41 [Message] aspen contractors : have you rec'd anything from *****?

21:57:36 [Message] aspen contractors : their show is with the entrepreneur one so that kind of looks interesting.

21:57:54 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Just the welcome present - I think I get emails occasionally but not sure - Texas is too much of a trip for us to take for their stuff though

21:58:13 [Message] CarolinaProWash : I think they've aligned themselves with a winner this time, that's for sure Rob

21:59:00 [Message] aspen contractors : i just wished i could receive any info. email, written, or pigeon. if i didnt have access to the net i would be lost...lol

21:59:04 [Message] Russell_C : Hey, I think you are all winners, but I have to go

21:59:13 [Message] BarryM : see yaz

21:59:16 [Message] aspen contractors : thanks russell

21:59:17 [Message] BarryM : thanks

21:59:24 [Message] roger : Bye russ

21:59:26 [Message] Russell_C : Have a good night, and thank you for joining wood chat

21:59:26 [Message] BarryM : now go on get

21:59:34 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Thanks Russell!

21:59:44 [Disconnect] Russell_C

21:59:55 [Message] BarryM : we still talking wood?

22:00:04 [Message] aspen contractors : did it even come up?

22:00:13 [Message] BarryM : not sure....lol

22:00:15 [Message] CarolinaProWash : I don't know.....it was several pages back I think :)

22:00:15 [Message] aspen contractors : lol....i think that was an hour ago now...lol

22:00:26 [Message] BarryM : oh well

22:00:47 [Message] BarryM : high of 21 here tomorrow wheee

22:00:54 [Message] CarolinaProWash : brrrrrr

22:01:04 [Message] aspen contractors : i think its flurrie tonight here

22:01:17 [Message] BarryM : the low is......your boogers freeze

22:01:24 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Guess you'll be on the boards huh? We'll be laying concrete!

22:01:30 [Message] aspen contractors : i hate snow....but its fun. my flatwork accts start calling friday.

22:01:34 [Message] BarryM : yes I will

22:01:59 [Message] aspen contractors : they will lay salt tonight and call friday to have me com over the weekend and clean it up

22:02:08 [Message] aspen contractors : how much fun can that be?...lol

22:02:09 [Message] CarolinaProWash : That's cool

22:02:14 [Message] BarryM : job security

22:02:19 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Bingo!

22:02:45 [Message] BarryM : you guys ever get too cold at night to stain decks......

22:02:55 [Message] aspen contractors : yeah. but i laugh too hard. i have one acct that last year i would do a section entrance. the next week they wanted it done again and paid me more to just come back and do it...

22:03:09 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Our local high school plays in the State Championship Saturday - our first radio commercial will be playing on the radio that's broadcasting the game :)

22:03:21 [Message] aspen contractors : awesome congrats!!!

22:03:34 [Message] BarryM : I've thought about radio....is it expensive

22:03:37 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Barry - yeah, sometimes but when our temps go there, most have stopped calling

22:03:53 [Message] aspen contractors : i am in the process of putting something together. its a great advertisement. i might post it on my website

22:03:59 [Message] roger : if the temp stay below 40 degs hang it up

22:04:13 [Message] BarryM : oh it's hung

22:04:16 [Message] BarryM : he he

22:04:16 [Message] CarolinaProWash : This sponsorship spot is running us $125 - we'll get mentioned as sponsors at the beginning & end of the game with 4 30 seconds ads during the game

22:04:32 [Message] CarolinaProWash : *whip*

22:04:35 [Message] aspen contractors : that sounds cheap

22:04:36 [Message] BarryM : ouch

22:04:45 [Message] BarryM : not a bad price Celeste

22:05:04 [Message] aspen contractors : in maryland i think you can sneeze for that price

22:05:08 [Message] CarolinaProWash : I thought it was very reasonable for this one time. She's putting together a regular monthly thing for me that I'm afraid is going to be considerably more

22:05:16 [Message] aspen contractors : whats the temps now roger?

22:05:36 [Message] aspen contractors : the old intro price huh?

22:05:36 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Cold!

22:05:39 [Message] BarryM : I'm sure Celeste........they are going to suck you in

22:05:57 [Message] roger : at night upper 20's daytime mid 50's

22:06:04 [Message] BarryM : or try to suck you in

22:06:07 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Hey, if I can't afford it this time of year they can't suck me in! LOL

22:06:36 [Message] aspen contractors : lol true

22:06:55 [Message] BarryM : how's the concrete overlaying going

22:07:00 [Message] CarolinaProWash : This one time thing is because of the football teams' success - plus it's Roger's high school. Community support and all of the happy stuff!

22:07:12 [Message] CarolinaProWash : It's going.....temps are starting to really be an issue

22:07:26 [Message] CarolinaProWash : I'm going to start pushing interior installations

22:07:29 [Message] BarryM : you do some beautiful work

22:07:33 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Thank you!

22:07:44 [Message] aspen contractors : oh yeah...you have to play that hand as much as possible. i learned that. i did some things up here that really worked for getting my name out there

22:07:55 [Message] BarryM : I looked into it in my area.......too many already do it

22:08:16 [Message] aspen contractors : is there ever a problem with water getting under the overlay?

22:08:45 [Message] CarolinaProWash : It can if you don't do it properly or if the concrete is too wet when you start

22:08:47 [Message] aspen contractors : i showed my wife the info from PT and that was the first thing she asked. i never would have thought of asking that

22:09:21 [Message] aspen contractors : well now i know...lol

22:09:27 [Message] CarolinaProWash : When you prep it right, don't try to rush the process, the overlay materials bond to the concrete so there's nowhere for the water to intrude

22:09:48 [Message] aspen contractors : i see

22:10:04 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Also, concrete is mixed with water so it will eventually wick through and cure

22:10:39 [Message] aspen contractors : wow from wood to concrete tonight.

22:10:57 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Not to mention everything in between!

22:11:17 [Message] BarryM : too much coffee earlier for me

22:11:26 [Message] aspen contractors : i have to look and see how many others are doing it in this area. i havent seen any at all and with all my flatwork contracts i am sure i could ponder more work there.

22:11:41 [Message] aspen contractors : i am tired of the painters though....

22:11:56 [Message] BarryM : why

22:12:14 [Message] aspen contractors : if i see one more that says he knows how to do power washing better than a power washer i am buying paint brushes and saying i am a painter

22:12:20 [Message] aspen contractors : lol

22:12:39 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Rob, there is someone up in Maryland that is doing overlays - really nice ones. I'll have to find his URL. He uses the Pure Texture system also.

22:12:44 [Message] BarryM : they don't have a clue do they?

22:12:51 [Message] BarryM : same here

22:12:58 [Message] aspen contractors : sorry...they all just come in and under bid for NOTHING....

22:13:06 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Those guys are the reason that the Round Tables are soooo important

22:13:07 [Message] aspen contractors : thanks Celeste.

22:13:59 [Message] BarryM : yes

22:14:00 [Message] aspen contractors : did you see how HD is selling their machines now?

22:14:10 [Message] aspen contractors : with the new abbrevation?

22:14:18 [Message] BarryM : ?

22:14:35 [Message] aspen contractors : instead of psi i want to say it was Bt something.

22:14:40 [Message] aspen contractors : not BTU

22:14:50 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Rob....www.decorativeconcreteofmd.com

22:15:10 [Message] aspen contractors : but something similiar...

22:15:19 [Message] BarryM : home cheapo

22:15:21 [Message] aspen contractors : thanks...i am pulling it up now

22:15:46 [Message] aspen contractors : well i actually saw a contractor advertising that his machine are as big as 4750000 BT?

22:15:58 [Message] BarryM : their DIY seminars are killing our contractor around here

22:15:59 [Message] CarolinaProWash : What's a BT?

22:16:14 [Message] aspen contractors : its a new abbrevaition they are using on PW

22:16:21 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Barry.....you should go to one of them and pick their demo guy to death!

22:16:24 [Message] aspen contractors : its BTV or something like that

22:16:45 [Message] aspen contractors : the numbers are outrageous.

22:16:49 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Or better yet, get with the management and offer to do it for them - no charge but you get to promote your company or something

22:16:52 [Message] aspen contractors : its great sale pitch.

22:16:52 [Message] BarryM : I should

22:17:26 [Message] CarolinaProWash : What, those big numbers?

22:17:33 [Message] aspen contractors : yeah

22:17:38 [Message] aspen contractors : have you seen them?

22:17:48 [Message] CarolinaProWash : That is strictly a testosterone approach!

22:17:58 [Message] BarryM : It really hurts all contractors

22:17:58 [Message] aspen contractors : i was telling Barry i saw a contractor telling everyone thats what he uses

22:18:10 [Message] aspen contractors : the # was like 475000

22:18:39 [Message] aspen contractors : i was going to ask if he was taking hide off an elephant untl i realized the deal. he should have worked in HD....

22:18:55 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Oh that's just great......contractor tells homeowner that his machine is 2 bajillion BT and it won't damage their house so they they blast the siding off with their little 2500 psi machine. Lovely.

22:19:08 [Message] aspen contractors : sometimes you have to wonder where these people come from. i dont know much about like wood. but i dont claim to neither.

22:19:11 [Message] BarryM : some just don't get it

22:19:38 [Message] CarolinaProWash : And you know what.....those that don't get it can keep calling the $50 guys. Those are not the type customer you want anyway.

22:19:39 [Message] aspen contractors : if anyone came to my house and said my machine is 475000 i would have laughed

22:19:50 [Message] aspen contractors : and told them the trucks paint needs stripped

22:19:53 [Message] BarryM : I talked to a guy that used a turbo on a deck

22:20:03 [Message] BarryM : he was making toothpicks

22:20:11 [Message] aspen contractors : your right there Celeste....i had that customer...lol

22:20:18 [Message] CarolinaProWash : The Ipe dock we just finished was damaged by a turbo tip - I even posted the pictures

22:20:42 [Message] aspen contractors : oh i have the best one. my worst customer of the year award

22:20:53 [Message] BarryM : please share

22:20:58 [Message] aspen contractors : customer (i work with at my FT job)

22:21:11 [Message] aspen contractors : asked me to come over and price the deck

22:21:24 [Message] aspen contractors : 900 sq ft i think .... off the top of my head

22:21:31 [Message] aspen contractors : no railings

22:21:42 [Message] aspen contractors : just bleacher style steps leading down

22:21:55 [Message] aspen contractors : ho tub on deck with lattice 2 ft from hot tub

22:22:03 [Message] aspen contractors : hot tub ,...sorry

22:22:30 [Message] aspen contractors : so i went ,,,stripped,,,brightened....looked it over...

22:22:38 [Message] aspen contractors : looked good when i left

22:22:44 [Message] aspen contractors : 3 days goes bye

22:22:55 [Message] aspen contractors : i go back to start the prep work for stained

22:22:59 [Message] aspen contractors : staining

22:23:12 [Message] aspen contractors : tape up the sliding doors, etc

22:23:34 [Message] aspen contractors : there are splinters all over the doors. line marks in the wood

22:23:48 [Message] aspen contractors : i am flipping out cause "my first thought" was that i did it

22:24:21 [Message] aspen contractors : lol....i know that sounds bad but would you think someone would pay you 1500 and then try to do it? after you did the work?

22:24:32 [Message] BarryM : omg

22:24:38 [Message] CarolinaProWash : what was he thinking?

22:24:51 [Message] aspen contractors : her boyfriend didnt like the color of the wood and get this

22:24:56 [Message] aspen contractors : wanted it brighter

22:25:16 [Message] BarryM : what an idiot

22:25:18 [Message] aspen contractors : now let me go back. deck was 7 yrs old. stained ONCE

22:25:20 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Can we all say........MORON

22:25:43 [Message] aspen contractors : so after i convinced myself i was smarter than to do something this stupid

22:25:50 [Message] aspen contractors : i went and confronted her

22:26:02 [Message] aspen contractors : she admitted what he did

22:26:30 [Message] CarolinaProWash : How much more did you charge them to fix it?!?

22:26:33 [Message] aspen contractors : i told her i had to leave and consult an attorney...lol. truth was i had to re think of what i could really do as a contractor at this point.

22:26:41 [Message] aspen contractors : over 3000

22:26:55 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Chaching :) Sometimes one must love an idiot.

22:27:09 [Message] aspen contractors : i charged 2.5 times the amount

22:27:19 [Message] BarryM : wow

22:27:26 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Could you sand it out?

22:27:31 [Message] aspen contractors : honestly and i might sound bad. but i i didnt wnat to go back so made an outrageous # up

22:27:46 [Message] aspen contractors : i didnt get it all out but alot did come out...lucky for them

22:28:13 [Message] BarryM : bet the boyfriend was in the dog house for awhile

22:28:16 [Message] aspen contractors : so i threw this # together and sure enough she didnt even hesitate and said continue working....(after new contract was issued)

22:28:25 [Message] BarryM : cool

22:28:26 [Message] aspen contractors : no...she still think he didnt do anythign wrong

22:28:32 [Message] CarolinaProWash : WHAT!

22:28:36 [Message] BarryM : figures

22:28:40 [Message] aspen contractors : lol...they are truly made for one another

22:28:46 [Message] BarryM : takes one to know one

22:28:54 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Heaven forbid they should ever reproduce

22:28:56 [Message] aspen contractors : me and my wife were laughing hysterically....

22:29:07 [Message] BarryM : all the way to the bank

22:29:11 [Message] CarolinaProWash : yea....all the way to the bank

22:29:17 [Message] aspen contractors : i hpe not they are a lil older and prob past that point thank god

22:29:21 [Message] BarryM : beat ya

22:29:32 [Message] CarolinaProWash : yeah yeah yeah

22:29:38 [Message] BarryM : me fast

22:29:47 [Message] aspen contractors : i did feel bad....but. it took almost 3 weeks for finish

22:29:53 [Message] aspen contractors : go with your story barry

22:30:18 [Message] BarryM : what story

22:30:23 [Message] CarolinaProWash : Fellas - it's time to wrap this little party up.....some of us have to get up to go do physical labor in the morning........

22:30:45 [Message] BarryM : okay

22:31:00 [Message] BarryM : the wife is giving me 'the look'

22:31:00 [Message] roger : good night all

22:31:02 [Message] aspen contractors : ok...yeah i have to do something tomorrow...oh yeah the FT job....cant wait til doing this is it

22:31:11 [Message] BarryM : see ya all

22:31:13 [Message] aspen contractors : good night all....nice chatting

22:31:14 [Message] BarryM : and thanks

22:31:16 [Message] CarolinaProWash : It's been fun - see you all tomorrow!

22:31:21 [Message] aspen contractors : keep in touch

22:31:26 [Kick] CarolinaProWash -> roger

22:31:26 [Message] BarryM : u bet

22:31:37 [Disconnect] aspen contractors

22:31:45 [Disconnect] BarryM

22:32:03 [Disconnect] CarolinaProWash