Beth n Rod

323.7 -who knows how many tries- Rod!~

2006-11-15 20:01:21 [Message] bethnrod : hi :) 2006-11-15 20:01:21 [Message] donphelps : Hi Beth/Rod 2006-11-15 20:02:31 [Message] bethnrod : I think Scott (racechaser ) is trying to login 2006-11-15 20:02:50 [Message] donphelps : Let's get him here....lol 2006-11-15 20:03:15 [Login] chappy 2006-11-15 20:03:15 [iP] chappy: 70.127.72.187 2006-11-15 20:03:16 [Join Room] chappy -> Town Meeting 2006-11-15 20:03:29 [user Status] chappy -> Away 2006-11-15 20:03:29 [Login] squirtgun 2006-11-15 20:03:29 [iP] squirtgun: 68.217.214.109 2006-11-15 20:03:30 [Join Room] squirtgun -> Town Meeting 2006-11-15 20:03:35 [user Status] chappy -> Online 2006-11-15 20:03:46 [Message] squirtgun : hello ya'll 2006-11-15 20:03:50 [Message] donphelps : Hey Scott! 2006-11-15 20:04:01 [Message] squirtgun : hey Don 2006-11-15 20:04:10 [Message] donphelps : raining there yet? 2006-11-15 20:04:17 [Message] squirtgun : heck yes 2006-11-15 20:04:35 [Message] donphelps : lol...it's headed this way 2006-11-15 20:04:45 [Message] bethnrod : Is Russ in yet? 2006-11-15 20:04:56 [Message] donphelps : it was 88 today and 70 tomorrow. 2006-11-15 20:05:05 [Message] donphelps : no Russ yet 2006-11-15 20:05:09 [Message] squirtgun : Looks like we'll have it most of the night 2006-11-15 20:05:18 [Message] bethnrod : Don send that warmth up here!!! (but keep the rain) 2006-11-15 20:05:44 [Message] squirtgun : was in the mid 70's here today 2006-11-15 20:05:45 [Message] donphelps : lol....it doesn't work that way, unfortunately 2006-11-15 20:05:49 [Message] chappy : that looks like some serious storm heading in to you 2006-11-15 20:05:54 [Message] bethnrod : Who is Chappy? 2006-11-15 20:06:01 [Message] chappy : jon chapman 2006-11-15 20:06:02 [Message] squirtgun : been in the upper 30'and low 40's in the AM's 2006-11-15 20:06:05 [Message] donphelps : jon chapman 2006-11-15 20:06:05 [Message] bethnrod : ah! 2006-11-15 20:06:43 [Message] squirtgun : Don are you bringing teh girls with you Tuesday? 2006-11-15 20:06:52 [Message] donphelps : yep 2006-11-15 20:07:07 [Message] donphelps : It will have to be quick 2006-11-15 20:07:10 [Message] squirtgun : good we can;t wait to see them 2006-11-15 20:07:15 [Message] squirtgun : I understand 2006-11-15 20:07:24 [Message] chappy : don, whats the progress on a florida roundtable that your organizing 2006-11-15 20:07:32 [Message] squirtgun : I'll give you a call later 2006-11-15 20:07:41 [Login] russjohnson 2006-11-15 20:07:41 [iP] russjohnson: 74.130.68.184 2006-11-15 20:07:41 [Join Room] russjohnson -> Town Meeting 2006-11-15 20:07:51 [Message] squirtgun : Hey the host is here 2006-11-15 20:07:57 [Message] squirtgun : hey Russ 2006-11-15 20:08:00 [Message] donphelps : I'm not, and never really said I was 2006-11-15 20:08:11 [Message] russjohnson : What are you guys doing throwing a party without me??? 2006-11-15 20:08:12 [Message] chappy : But you were elected 2006-11-15 20:08:14 [Message] donphelps : Thanks Scott 2006-11-15 20:08:42 [Message] donphelps : I'm a Democrat...Your vote doesn't count, lol! 2006-11-15 20:08:55 [Message] squirtgun : Hey Russ if you can't make it on time,just make it when you can 2006-11-15 20:08:55 [Message] bethnrod : There's Russ! 2006-11-15 20:09:02 [Grant Admin] bethnrod -> russjohnson 2006-11-15 20:09:02 [Message] chappy : You are the only guy around central florida with the smarts to get something going, think about it. 2006-11-15 20:09:06 [Message] russjohnson : The dinosaur comp in the house wouldn't work.. had to run to the shop... 2006-11-15 20:09:13 [Message] squirtgun : lol 2006-11-15 20:09:20 [Message] donphelps : Hi Russ 2006-11-15 20:09:44 [Message] donphelps : tell me about this burner adjustment 2006-11-15 20:10:04 [Message] russjohnson : Shoot it to me 2006-11-15 20:10:35 [Message] russjohnson : Aahhhhh the cut out pressure? 2006-11-15 20:10:42 [Message] donphelps : you mention a screw or something a week or two back.....little known to most. 2006-11-15 20:10:51 [Message] donphelps : mentioned 2006-11-15 20:11:18 [Message] russjohnson : yeah...it tells the pump to quit as soon as the pressure drops off...like a decrease in rpms 2006-11-15 20:11:45 [Message] russjohnson : Irt snaps the valving closed immediately. 2006-11-15 20:11:52 [Message] donphelps : these PP skids are spraying diesel everywhere....it's crazy. 2006-11-15 20:12:12 [Message] chappy : I just bought a Pressure Pro 8gpm unit used. It keeps feeding diesel when running cold so when I fire up the burner i get some serious flames. Warped my roof yesterday it was so bad.. is this the same problem? 2006-11-15 20:12:17 [Message] russjohnson : Do they light real dirty and smoke when they go out? 2006-11-15 20:12:38 [Message] chappy : yes, that too. 2006-11-15 20:13:04 [Message] donphelps : mine is good otherwise, just spraying oil everywhere and it drips into the generator, etc. 2006-11-15 20:13:24 [Message] russjohnson : Alkota has, for YEARS, controlled the entire burner, not just a solenoid, with the pressure switch running through a starter solenoid. 2006-11-15 20:13:39 [Message] donphelps : They gave me a new skid, but this is crazy.....trailer is trashed now. 2006-11-15 20:13:58 [Login] mully 2006-11-15 20:13:58 [iP] mully: 71.161.138.157 2006-11-15 20:13:59 [Join Room] mully -> Town Meeting 2006-11-15 20:14:41 [Message] donphelps : both leak, 2nd not as bad as the 1st though 2006-11-15 20:14:41 [Message] chappy : whos mully? 2006-11-15 20:14:50 [Message] squirtgun : this seems to be pretty common with that machine,seems like they would have addressed it long ago 2006-11-15 20:14:54 [Message] russjohnson : As the motor winds down, the pressure drops to a dribble and then squirts fuel all over. The best scenario is to stop the fuel flow immediately. The fuel pump soleniod controls this. 2006-11-15 20:15:35 [Message] russjohnson : Does the fuel line have a solenoid on it where it exits the pump? 2006-11-15 20:15:58 [Message] donphelps : I spent 13k on a 5.6 hot, 8 hot and an 8 cold. I'm not really very happy about it. 2006-11-15 20:16:15 [Message] donphelps : not that I recall. 2006-11-15 20:16:29 [Message] chappy : i dont think mine does either 2006-11-15 20:16:40 [Message] donphelps : mine is 115 volt 2006-11-15 20:16:41 [Message] russjohnson : Then they're copying Alkota's mistake. 2006-11-15 20:17:08 [Message] chappy : is there a solution? 2006-11-15 20:17:09 [Message] russjohnson : Yeah, they do that with 110's too...even electric powered ones.\ 2006-11-15 20:17:22 [Message] squirtgun : so on top of the money already spend they are goingto have to add a part? 2006-11-15 20:17:33 [Message] donphelps : I sat in on an Alkota conference call, but it was a lot of political jockeying and little more. 2006-11-15 20:17:47 [Message] russjohnson : There are 2 solutions...buy a fuel solenoid and do some rewiring or adjust the cut out pressure 2006-11-15 20:18:09 [Message] chappy : how? 2006-11-15 20:18:17 [Message] donphelps : cool...thanks! 2006-11-15 20:18:53 [Message] russjohnson : Below the fuel outlet on the pump near the inlet port, there is a plastic plug. 2006-11-15 20:19:15 [Message] donphelps : brb, going to look.....lol 2006-11-15 20:19:17 [Message] russjohnson : You need something sharp like an awl or penknife to pry it out 2006-11-15 20:19:39 [Message] russjohnson : There is a screw head inside the hole 2006-11-15 20:19:53 [Disconnect] mully 2006-11-15 20:20:30 [Message] russjohnson : Fire yor machine up, call for heat (trigger it) and let it light 2006-11-15 20:21:01 [Message] russjohnson : Use a screwdriver and back the screw out until the burner quits 2006-11-15 20:21:19 [Message] russjohnson : Screwit back in just until it lights 2006-11-15 20:21:39 [Message] russjohnson : Test it a couple of times to make sure it will fire 2006-11-15 20:22:17 [Message] russjohnson : If not, turn the screw a little more (but not too much, you'll be back where you were) 2006-11-15 20:22:46 [Message] russjohnson : You back yet, Don?lol 2006-11-15 20:23:05 [Message] donphelps : didn't see it, but it's in the garage and hard to get at for now.....yes. 2006-11-15 20:23:30 [Message] donphelps : is it the same on all burners? 2006-11-15 20:23:40 [Message] russjohnson : I'll scan a diagram of a fuel pump and put it on TGS tomorrow 2006-11-15 20:23:46 [Message] chappy : that sounds pretty simple 2006-11-15 20:23:49 [Message] russjohnson : meaning??? 2006-11-15 20:24:03 [Message] chappy : simple fix 2006-11-15 20:24:12 [Message] donphelps : sounds great.......115 vs 12v 2006-11-15 20:24:17 [Message] russjohnson : If there's a solenoid controlling the flame, there's no worry 2006-11-15 20:24:46 [Message] russjohnson : Cut out pressure adjustment is the same across the board 2006-11-15 20:25:18 [Message] donphelps : it's annoying.....always wondering if trailer is stoked up yet, lol! 2006-11-15 20:25:25 [Message] chappy : pressure switch or flow switch. does it matter? 2006-11-15 20:25:42 [Message] russjohnson : No, switch doesn't matter at all 2006-11-15 20:25:44 [Message] chappy : Is your trailer enclosed, Don? 2006-11-15 20:26:05 [Message] donphelps : We use flow switches now.....went through too many pressure switches. 2006-11-15 20:26:17 [Message] donphelps : This particular trailer is open. 2006-11-15 20:26:36 [Message] chappy : yeah, I hate the pressure switches. 2006-11-15 20:26:59 [Message] donphelps : anybody tried the GY spiral flex hose yet? 2006-11-15 20:27:41 [Message] russjohnson : I have a customer who has a reel full...he loves it...but the ridges wear out after a while 2006-11-15 20:27:47 [Message] squirtgun : No,but it's a nice concept 2006-11-15 20:28:40 [Message] chappy : is it any lighter? 2006-11-15 20:28:43 [Message] squirtgun : I don't think it could take the abuse of beingdragged across fats food parking lots 2006-11-15 20:28:54 [Message] donphelps : I tried 200' and it's OK, but as you said, the ridges wear down. Then you're right back where you started. nice blue trail too. 2006-11-15 20:28:58 [Message] russjohnson : Fats foods??? 2006-11-15 20:29:03 [Message] squirtgun : ooops fast 2006-11-15 20:29:12 [Message] squirtgun : well it will make you fat 2006-11-15 20:29:24 [Message] russjohnson : I guess that's right except for Subway...Eat Fresh 2006-11-15 20:29:26 [Message] donphelps : I luv fat foods! ???? 2006-11-15 20:29:49 [Message] squirtgun : me too,but teh doctor will only let me have it once a month now 2006-11-15 20:30:04 [Message] squirtgun : nad yes Russ teh=the for me 2006-11-15 20:30:13 [Message] squirtgun : and nad=and 2006-11-15 20:30:13 [Message] donphelps : it was a nice gimmick in my opinion. 2006-11-15 20:30:53 [Message] russjohnson : I can't wait to try to fix one...all the extra rubber is going to havve to be peeled off 2006-11-15 20:31:07 [Message] russjohnson : have 2006-11-15 20:31:25 [Message] squirtgun : that will make for a nice tight fit 2006-11-15 20:31:45 [Message] russjohnson : too tight ain't good 2006-11-15 20:32:16 [Message] donphelps : it would be good if they can make a strong, light hose.....current version isn't too good though IMO 2006-11-15 20:32:18 [Message] russjohnson : gets the rubber kinked up inside, then the end won't fit right 2006-11-15 20:32:29 [Message] squirtgun : yeah,we went through replacement ends fast ujntil we found someone who could crimp them 2006-11-15 20:33:02 [Message] russjohnson : I don't have problems with reuseables...been using them for years 2006-11-15 20:33:19 [Message] donphelps : I'm starting to appreciate the simplicity of roof cleaning...lol 2006-11-15 20:33:24 [Message] squirtgun : lol 2006-11-15 20:33:33 [Message] chappy : amen to that Don. 2006-11-15 20:33:39 [Login] COOPER 2006-11-15 20:33:39 [iP] COOPER: 24.119.98.170 2006-11-15 20:33:39 [Join Room] COOPER -> Town Meeting 2006-11-15 20:33:44 [Message] russjohnson : Thought about getting a crimper, but at $900, you have to fix a LOT of hose 2006-11-15 20:33:51 [Message] donphelps : Hi Cooper 2006-11-15 20:33:59 [Message] squirtgun : we abuse hoses,and I get a lot of use out of them 2006-11-15 20:34:03 [Message] COOPER : How is everyone 2006-11-15 20:34:12 [Message] russjohnson : Coop er, welcome 2006-11-15 20:34:13 [Message] chappy : good, welcome 2006-11-15 20:34:31 [Message] donphelps : get one.....they will know where to come and it'll pay for itself faster. 2006-11-15 20:34:49 [Message] squirtgun : Russ,we have talked aabout me pulling my coil and teh insulation sticking 2006-11-15 20:35:05 [Message] russjohnson : It will...got to get new 2006-11-15 20:35:16 [Message] squirtgun : notice the other day Largo inserted a cage bewteen the coils and insulation 2006-11-15 20:35:19 [Message] russjohnson : I never reuse insulation 2006-11-15 20:35:31 [Message] russjohnson : a cage? 2006-11-15 20:35:38 [Message] squirtgun : yes steel mesh 2006-11-15 20:35:40 [Message] russjohnson : Must be a wild coil 2006-11-15 20:35:46 [Message] squirtgun : lol 2006-11-15 20:36:04 [Message] russjohnson : I don't know what purpose it would serve 2006-11-15 20:36:06 [Message] donphelps : we do, but this is FL.....we just borrow it from our neighbor's roof, lol 2006-11-15 20:36:22 [Message] russjohnson : lol 2006-11-15 20:36:44 [Message] squirtgun : my guess was to keep the insulatin off teh coil 2006-11-15 20:37:12 [Message] russjohnson : Don't matter...it'll stick to the skin 2006-11-15 20:37:15 [Message] squirtgun : I have to pull it,besides needing cleaning I need to get teh cracked weld fixed 2006-11-15 20:37:26 [Message] russjohnson : bring it up 2006-11-15 20:37:37 [Message] russjohnson : lol 2006-11-15 20:37:38 [Message] donphelps : I don't want to turn this into a 'roof' chat, but what do you think about those Delavan pumps, Russ? 2006-11-15 20:37:39 [Message] squirtgun : I figure it will ,just hatethe idea of having to pull it at all 2006-11-15 20:38:07 [Message] russjohnson : Fairly new to them...we'll have to wait and see 2006-11-15 20:38:26 [Message] donphelps : they look good on paper 2006-11-15 20:38:36 [Message] russjohnson : Can't be worse than SF or FJ... 2006-11-15 20:38:39 [Message] chappy : I still miss my roller pump, just need to replace it. the 3gpm sure flow doesnt cut it 2006-11-15 20:39:13 [Message] russjohnson : Any of the materials in the pump aren't happy around chlorine 2006-11-15 20:39:47 [Message] russjohnson : Ceramic is about the only chlorine-impervious material 2006-11-15 20:39:51 [Message] donphelps : We've got too much invested in the JBs now to go back, but they look like the way to go for residential setups. 2006-11-15 20:40:15 [Message] donphelps : Delavans 2006-11-15 20:40:24 [Message] russjohnson : I was thinking about buying one of those Comets to brutalize 2006-11-15 20:40:35 [Message] squirtgun : you can always link 6 together to give you teh same performance Don 2006-11-15 20:40:54 [Message] donphelps : I'm probably going to try to tear one up on the next apartment gig....lol 2006-11-15 20:41:05 [Message] russjohnson : A comet? 2006-11-15 20:41:18 [Message] donphelps : yep 2006-11-15 20:41:39 [Message] russjohnson : give 'er hell, son..let me know how it turns out 2006-11-15 20:41:48 [Message] donphelps : it will tell the tale on the 1st or 2nd day 2006-11-15 20:41:48 [Message] squirtgun : Oh goodie,that means I'll get hand me down some day...........lol 2006-11-15 20:42:09 [Message] russjohnson : Don breaks it, Scott inherits it... 2006-11-15 20:42:32 [Message] donphelps : you'll get a chunk of something that resembles a meteor, Squirt....lol 2006-11-15 20:42:35 [Message] squirtgun : Don don't break them,he just decides if he likes it or not 2006-11-15 20:42:42 [Message] russjohnson : Ahhhh 2006-11-15 20:43:33 [Message] donphelps : Jbs are strong.....chlorine baths are harsh environments! 2006-11-15 20:44:39 [Message] russjohnson : Household bleach has it's fun. I'vve got a half rotted ExCell in my shop now 2006-11-15 20:44:54 [Message] russjohnson : dam "V' key 2006-11-15 20:45:00 [Message] donphelps : lol.....those are fun 2006-11-15 20:45:34 [Message] squirtgun : I have one in my shop,that won;t start 2006-11-15 20:45:55 [Message] russjohnson : hit it with a hammer....lol 2006-11-15 20:46:02 [Message] russjohnson : Why? 2006-11-15 20:46:09 [Message] squirtgun : magneto 2006-11-15 20:46:15 [Message] russjohnson : Honda 2006-11-15 20:46:18 [Message] donphelps : my garage is starting to look like a flea market 2006-11-15 20:46:21 [Message] squirtgun : briggs 2006-11-15 20:46:28 [Message] russjohnson : Vanguard? 2006-11-15 20:46:31 [Message] squirtgun : no 2006-11-15 20:46:37 [Message] squirtgun : it's a cheap machine 2006-11-15 20:46:43 [Message] squirtgun : 2.1 gpm 2006-11-15 20:46:47 [Message] donphelps : Karcher? lol 2006-11-15 20:46:51 [Message] russjohnson : pfffffft 2006-11-15 20:47:18 [Message] russjohnson : You probably shouldn't have admitted to owning it 2006-11-15 20:47:18 [Message] squirtgun : if i get it running again,i want to make a snow machine with it 2006-11-15 20:47:40 [Message] donphelps : lol 2006-11-15 20:47:51 [Message] russjohnson : You got a source for the mag? 2006-11-15 20:48:24 [Message] squirtgun : no,it's badly rusted...i told my father inlaw to take and fix it for him to use 2006-11-15 20:48:51 [Message] squirtgun : I also yanked the pull rope out of it in a fit of disgust 2006-11-15 20:48:55 [Message] donphelps : I tried a smaller injector the other day and it sucked like a t 2006-11-15 20:49:07 [Message] donphelps : bat 2006-11-15 20:49:29 [Message] russjohnson : smaller as in 3-5 gpm? 2006-11-15 20:49:34 [Message] donphelps : yep 2006-11-15 20:49:46 [Message] donphelps : on a 8 gpm skid 2006-11-15 20:49:46 [Message] russjohnson : Did you get a high flow? 2006-11-15 20:50:25 [Message] donphelps : I didn't measure it, but it delivered all it needed to for restaurant cleaning. 2006-11-15 20:50:57 [Message] russjohnson : Restaurant.....hood? 2006-11-15 20:51:19 [Message] squirtgun : are you crazy....we aren't hood rats 2006-11-15 20:51:25 [Message] russjohnson : he he 2006-11-15 20:51:30 [Message] donphelps : no....drive-thru and backdoor areas 2006-11-15 20:51:49 [Message] russjohnson : I've cleaned 2..never again 2006-11-15 20:51:51 [Message] donphelps : I'll quit before I clean a hood...lol 2006-11-15 20:52:07 [Message] squirtgun : amen brotha 2006-11-15 20:52:30 [Message] squirtgun : Angela keeps bugging me.....I just cover my ears and yell...NONONONONONONO 2006-11-15 20:52:46 [Message] donphelps : spraying a 'hood with a Tek-9 is different.....lol 2006-11-15 20:52:52 [Message] russjohnson : Send her down the duct...once is all it'll take 2006-11-15 20:53:25 [Message] squirtgun : lo 2006-11-15 20:53:27 [Message] squirtgun : lol 2006-11-15 20:54:05 [Message] russjohnson : Who here freezes? 2006-11-15 20:54:23 [Message] squirtgun : as in temps? 2006-11-15 20:54:45 [Message] russjohnson : yep...want to see the potential carnage 2006-11-15 20:54:49 [Message] donphelps : I miss my wife...She's in Austin, TX at a conference for the next 3 days. Can I say that at a 'Russ' chat? 2006-11-15 20:54:57 [Message] squirtgun : We do 2006-11-15 20:55:02 [Message] russjohnson : sure...we all miss her 2006-11-15 20:55:10 [Message] squirtgun : Don you're such a sweet guy 2006-11-15 20:55:11 [Message] donphelps : lol 2006-11-15 20:55:17 [Message] donphelps : touche'! 2006-11-15 20:55:28 [Message] russjohnson : how cold do you get, Scott? 2006-11-15 20:55:36 [Message] squirtgun : lower 20's 2006-11-15 20:55:56 [Message] squirtgun : occassional teens buit rarely 2006-11-15 20:56:05 [Message] russjohnson : brrrr...a warm January day 2006-11-15 20:56:05 [Message] squirtgun : we use lot sof anti freeze 2006-11-15 20:56:23 [Message] russjohnson : auto or washer solvent? 2006-11-15 20:56:23 [Message] squirtgun : and a heat lamp 2006-11-15 20:56:29 [Message] squirtgun : auto 2006-11-15 20:56:35 [Message] squirtgun : mixed 50/50 2006-11-15 20:56:58 [Message] squirtgun : I don't trus the washer solvent 2006-11-15 20:57:07 [Message] russjohnson : Start it out at 75 antifreeze to 25 water...you can use it longer 2006-11-15 20:57:30 [Message] COOPER : We usually have a lot of nights in the lower 20's in Jan and Feb bout like squirt. I usually protect mine with 20 below windshield washer fluid. W TN 2006-11-15 20:57:43 [Message] russjohnson : washer sol is ok...but only 1 use 2006-11-15 20:57:57 [Message] squirtgun : I was thinking of adding heat tape this year.the kind that you wrap pipes with 2006-11-15 20:58:04 [Message] russjohnson : I like something that's reuseable 2006-11-15 20:58:15 [Message] donphelps : just move to central fl 2006-11-15 20:58:30 [Message] russjohnson : I saw that thread...where you gonna put the tape? 2006-11-15 20:58:45 [Message] russjohnson : can't put it on the coil 2006-11-15 20:58:55 [Message] squirtgun : out side of teh coil wrap and near the pump 2006-11-15 20:59:05 [Message] russjohnson : Used to live in FL...believe me, I know 2006-11-15 20:59:09 [Message] Keth : hello all, had to step out 2006-11-15 20:59:25 [Message] russjohnson : Outside the wrap won't do any good 2006-11-15 20:59:31 [Message] COOPER : I have a heated shop this year 2006-11-15 20:59:33 [Message] russjohnson : Hey, Keth 2006-11-15 20:59:42 [Message] squirtgun : ok,forget that idea 2006-11-15 20:59:51 [Message] donphelps : I remeber you saying that somewhere, Russ....where? 2006-11-15 20:59:53 [Message] Keth : we dip into the 20s here rarely, and the days are always above freezing 2006-11-15 20:59:58 [Message] donphelps : remember 2006-11-15 20:59:58 [Message] squirtgun : we'll stick with the anto freeze and heta lamp 2006-11-15 21:00:02 [Message] russjohnson : The insul will keep 500 degrees in...will keep 50 degrees otu 2006-11-15 21:00:14 [Message] russjohnson : Daytona 2006-11-15 21:00:30 [Message] russjohnson : "73 - "84 2006-11-15 21:00:38 [Message] Keth : so my plan is to use a small space heater in the garage, with the concrete above freezing during the day I think it will keep the garage from freezing 2006-11-15 21:00:50 [Message] donphelps : lol...most come to Daytona and don't leave. You're the exception to the rule 2006-11-15 21:00:56 [Message] squirtgun : I 2006-11-15 21:01:04 [Message] russjohnson : Laaw trouble...ya know 2006-11-15 21:01:07 [Message] Keth : with a heat lamp on the pump head 2006-11-15 21:01:13 [Message] Keth : Hi Russ 2006-11-15 21:01:17 [Disconnect] bethnrod 2006-11-15 21:01:18 [Message] donphelps : lol 2006-11-15 21:01:41 [Message] Keth : Russ, question regarding the oil in my pressure pump 2006-11-15 21:01:46 [Message] russjohnson : Hey, Keth, as long as it keeps it from icing 2006-11-15 21:01:48 [Message] squirtgun : I'm planning on doing some work on our rig this winter,I want to replace teh wood witha composite decking 2006-11-15 21:01:57 [Message] russjohnson : Yeah, Keth 2006-11-15 21:02:23 [Message] russjohnson : Scott...steel 2006-11-15 21:02:40 [Message] squirtgun : I working our some detail now to have the entire thing powder coated 2006-11-15 21:02:41 [Message] Keth : when I drained it it had a milky look to it as if water had gotten into it, the AR guide said that could be caused by condensation 2006-11-15 21:02:48 [Message] Keth : should I worry about that? 2006-11-15 21:02:51 [Message] russjohnson : Could be 2006-11-15 21:03:09 [Message] russjohnson : Ws the level higher than it was supposded to be? 2006-11-15 21:03:18 [Message] russjohnson : supposed 2006-11-15 21:03:19 [Message] Keth : no, level was okay 2006-11-15 21:03:26 [Message] donphelps : I don't thin 'milky' is ever good. 2006-11-15 21:03:31 [Message] donphelps : think 2006-11-15 21:03:39 [Message] Keth : yeah don that was my first reaction 2006-11-15 21:03:42 [Message] russjohnson : Might be condens...or start of a leak 2006-11-15 21:04:08 [Message] russjohnson : How long between changes? 2006-11-15 21:04:10 [Message] Keth : ok, is this type of leak, if it is one, something I can fix myself? 2006-11-15 21:04:35 [Message] russjohnson : With a little help if you've never been in a pump 2006-11-15 21:04:47 [Message] russjohnson : Not rocket science 2006-11-15 21:04:47 [Message] Keth : only had this rig for a few months and this was my first change 2006-11-15 21:04:53 [Message] squirtgun : pump rebuild isn't bad with the right tools 2006-11-15 21:05:07 [Message] russjohnson : Do you let it bypass for long periods? 2006-11-15 21:05:11 [Message] Keth : not a lot of hours being a part timer 2006-11-15 21:05:14 [Message] donphelps : call the 'Doc'....lol 2006-11-15 21:05:20 [Message] Keth : lol 2006-11-15 21:05:35 [Message] Keth : I have bypass into the main tank 2006-11-15 21:05:49 [Message] squirtgun : lol 2006-11-15 21:05:50 [Message] Keth : believe I have a K7 unloader 2006-11-15 21:06:01 [Message] donphelps : is it gold? 2006-11-15 21:06:03 [Message] Keth : which has a small drip too ;) 2006-11-15 21:06:18 [Message] Keth : yeah, it is gold colored, Hydrotek skid 2006-11-15 21:06:24 [Message] COOPER : Is it bypassed back to the tank 2006-11-15 21:06:25 [Message] squirtgun : you sure that isn't the guy running it Keth.................lol 2006-11-15 21:06:30 [Message] Keth : LOL 2006-11-15 21:06:48 [Message] Keth : hey, if you saw what I had before you guys wouldn't even talk to me 2006-11-15 21:06:49 [Message] russjohnson : I'd change it now, then again in 4 weeks and see how it looks...keep an eye on the level. 2006-11-15 21:06:51 [Message] squirtgun : I threw my K7 away a few months ago 2006-11-15 21:07:03 [Message] russjohnson : If it gets fuller, it's leaking 2006-11-15 21:07:05 [Message] squirtgun : kz1 on there now,works the same 2006-11-15 21:07:14 [Message] donphelps : sounds like pilot error to me...lol 2006-11-15 21:07:17 [Message] Keth : ok Russ, I just changed it about 3 hours ago 2006-11-15 21:07:18 [Message] squirtgun : not as finicky 2006-11-15 21:07:21 [Message] Keth : so I will watch it 2006-11-15 21:07:38 [Message] russjohnson : Where's your K7 dripping? The steel coming out the end? 2006-11-15 21:07:52 [Message] donphelps : K-7s's can be a pain when plumbed back to aa tank. 2006-11-15 21:08:03 [Message] Keth : ok, joking aside, am I doing something wrong? I don't believe that I leave it in bypass more than anyone else 2006-11-15 21:08:15 [Message] donphelps : finicky 2006-11-15 21:08:19 [Message] squirtgun : ours was just worn out and not worth teh ciost fo rebuilding 2006-11-15 21:08:36 [Message] russjohnson : bypassing to a tank won't matter...let it run all day 2006-11-15 21:08:37 [Message] Keth : yeah, I think it is the steel coming out of the end, very smal drip 2006-11-15 21:09:02 [Message] squirtgun : the kz1 was in the tool box,it came on the machine 2006-11-15 21:09:05 [Message] Keth : tank is 225 gallons so I think heat is not a problem 2006-11-15 21:09:07 [Message] russjohnson : a rubber seal and some sandpaper will stop that. 2006-11-15 21:09:21 [Message] Keth : ok, thanks Russ 2006-11-15 21:09:27 [Message] donphelps : mine have always gone crazy after a time or two to a tank, then we reduce the orifice size and it clears up. 2006-11-15 21:09:57 [Message] russjohnson : K7's have always had a problem with cycling in bypass 2006-11-15 21:10:08 [Message] COOPER : I have ran k7 for years bypassed to tank. Ok with the right orfice. 2006-11-15 21:10:10 [Message] Keth : ahhh, good to know 2006-11-15 21:10:10 [Message] donphelps : ....wants to jump back and forth 2006-11-15 21:10:10 [Message] russjohnson : without the proper bypass orifice 2006-11-15 21:10:32 [Message] Keth : when you say proper bypass orifice I am not sure what you mean 2006-11-15 21:10:33 [Message] russjohnson : got to take it down 1 size 2006-11-15 21:10:33 [Message] squirtgun : teh kz1 weighs a lot less and when you are mounting the unloader on the pump head 2006-11-15 21:10:55 [Message] russjohnson : K7.2 with a #1 bypass orifice 2006-11-15 21:10:59 [Message] Keth : my unloader is mounted on the skid frame, not on the pump head 2006-11-15 21:11:06 [Message] squirtgun : lucky 2006-11-15 21:11:06 [Message] donphelps : I keep all orifice sizes around these days. 2006-11-15 21:11:07 [Message] COOPER : I am using the kz1 for the first time right now because of a lot of guys saying they last longer. Figured i would try one and see 2006-11-15 21:11:09 [Message] russjohnson : doesn't matter 2006-11-15 21:11:19 [Message] squirtgun : i need to put mine on a block 2006-11-15 21:11:48 [Message] russjohnson : How many ya want...lol 2006-11-15 21:11:54 [Message] squirtgun : lol 2006-11-15 21:11:59 [Message] donphelps : like your car, lol. 2006-11-15 21:12:02 [Message] Keth : so, the steel rod needs a burnish with some wet/dry paper and a new seal is what you are saying Russ? 2006-11-15 21:12:39 [Message] russjohnson : Yeah...if you pull the bottom off, there's a piston in there with a rubber cup on it 2006-11-15 21:12:42 [Login] steve kiser 2006-11-15 21:12:42 [iP] steve kiser: 72.161.9.209 2006-11-15 21:12:43 [Join Room] steve kiser -> Town Meeting 2006-11-15 21:12:59 [Message] donphelps : hi Steve 2006-11-15 21:13:02 [Message] steve kiser : hi what's up 2006-11-15 21:13:04 [Message] russjohnson : Under that is a spring, a brass washer, a teflon ring, then the seal. 2006-11-15 21:13:07 [Message] Keth : ok, I am sure Bob can hook me up with the parts 2006-11-15 21:13:16 [Message] russjohnson : OOOHhhhhhhh.... 2006-11-15 21:13:25 [Message] donphelps : maybe Russ can 2006-11-15 21:13:37 [Message] donphelps : lol, it's his chat 2006-11-15 21:13:39 [Message] Keth : ohhhhh 2006-11-15 21:13:40 [Message] russjohnson : :( 2006-11-15 21:13:44 [Message] squirtgun : ph.man you didn't just do that............ 2006-11-15 21:13:52 [Message] Keth : didn't know you were a dealer as well, I apologize 2006-11-15 21:14:02 [Message] russjohnson : no problem... 2006-11-15 21:14:14 [Message] donphelps : that was a 'fox paw'....lol 2006-11-15 21:14:16 [Message] russjohnson : It's all good... 2006-11-15 21:14:19 [Message] Keth : LOL 2006-11-15 21:14:25 [Message] squirtgun : Russ you need a tissue? 2006-11-15 21:14:35 [Message] russjohnson : naw...I got a cat 2006-11-15 21:14:42 [Message] russjohnson : softer 2006-11-15 21:14:48 [Message] donphelps : Russ is a tuff guy 2006-11-15 21:14:48 [Message] Keth : let me look at it closer so I am sure about what I have and where it is leaking and I will ping you for the parts if needed 2006-11-15 21:15:30 [Message] russjohnson : Anyway....you need to polish the shaft where it goes through the seal... 2006-11-15 21:15:33 [Message] Keth : to be honest it works great but I see this drip, I am not even sure it is a K7 but it looks like the pictures I see of them on websites 2006-11-15 21:15:39 [Message] russjohnson : or it'll eat the new one up 2006-11-15 21:15:42 [Message] steve kiser : I got an 8 gpm machine a few weeks ago, and am still stuggling with wether I want to start DS or stick with the x-jet? Would I get more distance with DS? 2006-11-15 21:16:15 [Message] squirtgun : xjet has it's place,but it's not the end all be all 2006-11-15 21:16:16 [Message] donphelps : not really, but probably less mist 2006-11-15 21:16:16 [Message] COOPER : You can get just a far at least Steve 2006-11-15 21:16:26 [Message] Keth : yeah, I used to fix hydraulics stuff, one little nick in the shaft and it would eat seals like a Texan at a BBQ 2006-11-15 21:16:34 [Message] russjohnson : With a "shooter" tip, you can get a pretty good distance 2006-11-15 21:17:11 [Message] Keth : my opinion is that I get farther with a 4040 than I do with an X-jet 2006-11-15 21:17:22 [Message] russjohnson : Texans at barbeques eat seals????I thought that was Eskimos...? 2006-11-15 21:17:26 [Message] steve kiser : oh by the way thanks for the 3 bar for my surfacer russ works like a champ 2006-11-15 21:17:30 [Message] donphelps : I like the adjustability of a M-5, but shooters will work too, depending.... 2006-11-15 21:17:39 [Message] Keth : Eskimos just club them 2006-11-15 21:17:41 [Message] COOPER : I use 0 20s 0 40s for soap and get up a little over 3 stories. 2006-11-15 21:17:47 [Message] russjohnson : Great Steve 2006-11-15 21:18:04 [Message] russjohnson : lol @ Keth 2006-11-15 21:18:12 [Message] squirtgun : m-5,you city giys and all your fancy toys 2006-11-15 21:18:14 [Message] Keth : sorry, meant 0040 for height 2006-11-15 21:18:46 [Message] squirtgun : I have the regular old xjet,and it's still throwing the chems like it wa snew 2006-11-15 21:19:05 [Message] squirtgun : still have to orginal low pressure tip it came with 2006-11-15 21:19:08 [Message] donphelps : garden hoses aren't considered pw'ers in the city, Squirt 2006-11-15 21:19:12 [Message] russjohnson : No moving parts...almost indestructible 2006-11-15 21:19:22 [Message] Keth : 0030 for a little more height and when I really need to reach I will load the hose with soap and put the 0010 on for the short time it has soap 2006-11-15 21:19:46 [Message] donphelps : try a 40 2006-11-15 21:19:55 [Message] squirtgun : oh great,now something will happen to it,i started bragging 2006-11-15 21:20:25 [Message] Keth : try a 0040 squirtgun, you will love it, and you can see where it is going 2006-11-15 21:20:28 [Message] russjohnson : You'll run it over 2006-11-15 21:20:49 [Message] squirtgun : don't even go to GH land,there is a guy locally doing house washes with a garden hose. 2006-11-15 21:20:52 [Message] donphelps : chappy must be licking his 'republican' wounds 2006-11-15 21:21:08 [Message] squirtgun : $75,and he uses your hose if you have one 2006-11-15 21:21:16 [Message] squirtgun : moron,I need to shoot him 2006-11-15 21:21:33 [Message] russjohnson : Hey, he's got 110 kids to feed 2006-11-15 21:21:38 [Message] russjohnson : 10 2006-11-15 21:22:15 [Message] squirtgun : maybe i'll paintball him,it fun to watch them writhe in pain 2006-11-15 21:22:37 [Message] russjohnson : Lots of fly by nighters pop up every spring... 2006-11-15 21:22:53 [Message] donphelps : .....gotta luv them 2006-11-15 21:23:18 [Message] donphelps : equipment discounts 2006-11-15 21:23:21 [Message] russjohnson : I like the renters... 2006-11-15 21:23:33 [Message] squirtgun : we'll be doing 3 houses in the spring he did.the idoit left mold and algae in teh gable peaks,told the HO's there was none aroundthat could get that clean 2006-11-15 21:23:38 [Message] russjohnson : they use it all year, and I still own it 2006-11-15 21:23:56 [Message] donphelps : ......who, Chappy? 2006-11-15 21:23:59 [Message] donphelps : lol 2006-11-15 21:24:08 [Message] russjohnson : Ooooooo... 2006-11-15 21:24:22 [Message] donphelps : lol, j/k!!! 2006-11-15 21:24:54 [Message] russjohnson : What happaned to Chappy....someone kick his chair..... 2006-11-15 21:24:58 [Message] donphelps : I love my job..... 2006-11-15 21:25:19 [Message] donphelps : He's watching Fox News 2006-11-15 21:25:20 [Message] squirtgun : Russ can i put inline cuts offs in my fuel lines or will it restrict flow to the engine and burner 2006-11-15 21:25:48 [Message] donphelps : ???? 2006-11-15 21:26:04 [Message] Keth : Fox does news? That is news to me. 2006-11-15 21:26:08 [Message] russjohnson : Cut offs? To stop the fuel for a filter change? Or a solenoid to control fire? 2006-11-15 21:26:29 [Message] donphelps : there ya go.... 2006-11-15 21:26:41 [Message] squirtgun : I want to pull the fuel tanks when I pull teh coil,to do some work on the skid frame and make chaning filters less messy 2006-11-15 21:27:16 [Message] russjohnson : 1/4" ball valves will not impede flow at all 2006-11-15 21:27:26 [Message] squirtgun : cool 2006-11-15 21:28:11 [Message] squirtgun : will brass work? 2006-11-15 21:28:12 [Message] russjohnson : How long have those tanks been in use? 2006-11-15 21:28:20 [Message] squirtgun : almost 4 yrs 2006-11-15 21:28:25 [Message] russjohnson : brass is great 2006-11-15 21:28:54 [Message] russjohnson : Make sure to get all the sediment out while you have them off 2006-11-15 21:29:02 [Message] squirtgun : will do 2006-11-15 21:29:38 [Message] squirtgun : I have run off raod diesel since day one,and I'm sure that tank is nasty 2006-11-15 21:29:59 [Message] russjohnson : You run a Racor filter? 2006-11-15 21:30:03 [Message] squirtgun : yes 2006-11-15 21:30:14 [Message] russjohnson : best thing going 2006-11-15 21:30:14 [Message] squirtgun : change the filter every 3 or 4 months 2006-11-15 21:30:41 [Message] squirtgun : filters and oil change cost me about $30 2006-11-15 21:30:57 [Message] russjohnson : for peace of mind...cheap 2006-11-15 21:31:02 [Message] squirtgun : yes 2006-11-15 21:31:07 [Message] COOPER : I started running off road diesel for the last 4 years. It is just as clean as the reg. diesel. 2006-11-15 21:31:07 [Message] steve kiser : is that the same filter that takes out the water, or is there another one?? 2006-11-15 21:31:19 [Message] russjohnson : that's it 2006-11-15 21:31:36 [Message] russjohnson : got the amber bowl on the bottom 2006-11-15 21:31:58 [Message] steve kiser : ur suppose to change it every 3-4 months I though u just drained the water out 2006-11-15 21:32:27 [Message] russjohnson : With clean fuel, once a year is acceptable 2006-11-15 21:32:31 [Message] COOPER : They just add the dye to it so the dot knows if you are running it in a vehicle. There is no road tax on it. 2006-11-15 21:32:33 [Message] squirtgun : I do it because it peace of mind as Russ said 2006-11-15 21:32:49 [Message] steve kiser : k cool thks 2006-11-15 21:32:56 [Message] russjohnson : Racors will let you know when they need a change...no fire 2006-11-15 21:33:02 [Message] squirtgun : but I run off road diesel so the extra cost keeps me from messing up something 2006-11-15 21:33:08 [Message] steve kiser : how much are they? 2006-11-15 21:33:09 [Message] russjohnson : yeppers 2006-11-15 21:33:25 [Message] russjohnson : the whole filter or the element? 2006-11-15 21:33:48 [Message] squirtgun : I pay $19 from a local tractor supply house(filter only) 2006-11-15 21:33:50 [Message] steve kiser : prob the whole filte for now 2006-11-15 21:33:59 [Message] donphelps : Time for me to run.....Thanks for a great chat, Russ. You guys be safe and I look forward to personally meeting those that I haven't. 2006-11-15 21:34:07 [Message] russjohnson : I'll PM ya later 2006-11-15 21:34:16 [Message] russjohnson : Don, be cool, bro 2006-11-15 21:34:18 [Message] squirtgun : later Don,I'll give you a call later 2006-11-15 21:34:19 [Message] COOPER : You wont mess anything up squit. I have always ran mine till the burner goes out. Then change it. 2006-11-15 21:34:41 [Message] donphelps : Thanks guys.....Be safe! 2006-11-15 21:34:54 [Disconnect] donphelps 2006-11-15 21:35:03 [Message] squirtgun : Coop my stuff always stops on the job 2006-11-15 21:35:17 [Message] squirtgun : I have it happen all too often 2006-11-15 21:35:24 [Message] COOPER : Just keep an extra filter with you 2006-11-15 21:35:27 [Message] squirtgun : had a wiring fire a while back 2006-11-15 21:35:40 [Message] russjohnson : If 3-4 months works for you...why change? 2006-11-15 21:36:04 [Message] squirtgun : Thanks for talking me through that Russ 2006-11-15 21:36:18 [Message] russjohnson : it's what I do... 2006-11-15 21:36:35 [Message] squirtgun : and good at it I might add 2006-11-15 21:36:45 [Login] william gurley 2006-11-15 21:36:45 [iP] william gurley: 71.12.6.125 2006-11-15 21:36:46 [Join Room] william gurley -> Town Meeting 2006-11-15 21:37:23 [Message] russjohnson : Synthetic oil...my thoughts....engine, good...pump, badd... 2006-11-15 21:37:52 [Message] squirtgun : I have regular Dino in the pump and syn in teh engine 2006-11-15 21:38:27 [Message] Keth : sorry, had to check out, on kid duty tonight, thanks for the advice Russ 2006-11-15 21:38:28 [Message] COOPER : I run synthetic in my eng. and change it every 100 hrs. 2006-11-15 21:38:48 [Message] squirtgun : does syn really add extra life to the engine? 2006-11-15 21:38:53 [Message] russjohnson : Well, the engine has a metal to metal bearing surface and combustion byproducts 2006-11-15 21:38:58 [Message] russjohnson : yes 2006-11-15 21:39:03 [Message] squirtgun : cool 2006-11-15 21:39:35 [Message] russjohnson : The pump has roller bearings...they need a ceertain amount of friction to work right 2006-11-15 21:40:04 [Message] squirtgun : I know a lot of people are afraid to switch from Dino to syn intheir engines,but it will not harm them 2006-11-15 21:40:22 [Message] russjohnson : ********** was supposed to be here..he's got the beer 2006-11-15 21:40:39 [Message] russjohnson : no, syn is great in an engine 2006-11-15 21:40:50 [Message] COOPER : Anybody every ran a 27" Hydrotek Hydrotwister on 8 gpm? I just put 8 gpm on my skid, but i think the 1/4" hoses and fittings on the hydrotwister will hold it back. 2006-11-15 21:41:25 [Message] russjohnson : not by much...nothing you'll notice 2006-11-15 21:41:47 [Message] russjohnson : it's only 4 -5' long 2006-11-15 21:41:48 [Message] squirtgun : I switch our surface cleaner to 3/8" when the ends broke 2006-11-15 21:42:00 [Message] squirtgun : like Russ said no real difference 2006-11-15 21:42:06 [Message] Keth : I run synth on the recommendation of a friend who used to be an engineer for a Formula One team, he made a very compelling argument for using it 2006-11-15 21:42:11 [Message] russjohnson : pp brb 2006-11-15 21:42:43 [Disconnect] Keth 2006-11-15 21:42:51 [Message] squirtgun : syn rocks in a gas engine.super long lasting,less break down and super slick 2006-11-15 21:43:24 [Message] COOPER : Well everybody on here said their surfacers run so much faster with the 8 gpm. Mine seems the same as 5.5 gpm. Now I can tell a big difference with the gun. 2006-11-15 21:44:02 [Message] russjohnson : Cooper, did you change the tips? 2006-11-15 21:44:04 [Message] squirtgun : we run 5.5 and I can barely keep up now 2006-11-15 21:44:41 [Message] squirtgun : 8gpm would allow us to run 2 surface cleaners but then we'll be tripping ober each other 2006-11-15 21:45:03 [Message] squirtgun : besides if there is a hose to ne tangled I can do 2006-11-15 21:45:26 [Message] russjohnson : 1 surface clean, 1 curb and rinse 2006-11-15 21:45:52 [Message] COOPER : Yea I actually put an 8.5 gpm pump on and I put 4.5 tips in each side. 2006-11-15 21:46:01 [Message] squirtgun : man are you crazy,give this woman a gun to wet me with? 2006-11-15 21:46:05 [Message] steve kiser : I was thinking of that maxima but not too thrilled with the casters, are they the little grey ones? 2006-11-15 21:47:08 [Message] squirtgun : we have a 30" and it's a pain in the rear end on drive thrus 2006-11-15 21:47:31 [Message] squirtgun : I prefer our floater 2006-11-15 21:47:48 [Message] russjohnson : Little gray ones? 2006-11-15 21:47:57 [Message] russjohnson : Like BE? 2006-11-15 21:48:08 [Disconnect] chappy 2006-11-15 21:48:13 [Message] squirtgun : the 30" weigh 65 and eats lower high temp bearings 2006-11-15 21:48:22 [Message] squirtgun : I need to sell it for parts to someone 2006-11-15 21:48:28 [Message] russjohnson : What brand 30? 2006-11-15 21:48:46 [Message] squirtgun : steel eagle 2006-11-15 21:48:46 [Message] russjohnson : Whisper? 2006-11-15 21:48:51 [Message] russjohnson : Oh 2006-11-15 21:48:54 [Message] COOPER : How much 2006-11-15 21:49:12 [Message] william gurley : When is someone going to make a attachement for cleaning curbs.been in the buisness since 85 and havent seen it yet. 2006-11-15 21:49:15 [Message] squirtgun : it's in peices right now,so I would have aclue coop 2006-11-15 21:49:25 [Message] russjohnson : I had a customer order BE swivels for his Big Guy...loves them 2006-11-15 21:49:50 [Message] COOPER : All I need is the manifold and arms. Is it 2 or 3 bar.? 2006-11-15 21:50:07 [Message] russjohnson : William...do a Google search for Curby... 2006-11-15 21:50:12 [Message] squirtgun : 2 bar and manifold and arm are bent 2006-11-15 21:50:15 [Message] steve kiser : yeah like the BE 2006-11-15 21:50:19 [Message] william gurley : ok ty 2006-11-15 21:50:21 [Message] russjohnson : It's a neat contraption 2006-11-15 21:50:34 [Message] russjohnson : wether it's worth the money????? 2006-11-15 21:50:38 [Message] COOPER : So are mine. Guess i will just order new ones 2006-11-15 21:50:41 [Message] squirtgun : Curb hopping is bad for them 2006-11-15 21:50:56 [Message] william gurley : did not no such a thing was out there 2006-11-15 21:50:57 [Message] squirtgun : go factory direct 2006-11-15 21:52:55 [Message] squirtgun : Curby is neat but kind of bulky 2006-11-15 21:53:21 [Message] squirtgun : and one more thing to fit on the rig 2006-11-15 21:53:58 [Message] squirtgun : well guys I'm out,Russ great chat.Hope you have more in the future 2006-11-15 21:54:18 [Message] russjohnson : Scott, take care 2006-11-15 21:54:23 [Message] COOPER : Later Squirtgun 2006-11-15 21:54:24 [Message] squirtgun : night 2006-11-15 21:54:29 [Disconnect] squirtgun 2006-11-15 21:55:09 [Message] russjohnson : Gents, anything else we can address before the club closes? 2006-11-15 21:55:50 [Message] COOPER : Yall have a good one. I am out. 2006-11-15 21:56:10 [Message] russjohnson : See ya , Cooper. Take care 2006-11-15 21:56:16 [Disconnect] COOPER 2006-11-15 21:56:50 [Message] russjohnson : Steve, William...any other questions? 2006-11-15 21:56:51 [Message] william gurley : yall take care thanks for the info.time to go sweep some lots. 2006-11-15 21:57:06 [Message] russjohnson : Bye, William...see ya in the board 2006-11-15 21:57:14 [Message] william gurley : se ya 2006-11-15 21:57:23 [Disconnect] william gurley 2006-11-15 21:57:39 [Message] russjohnson : Weel, Steve, I guess the next round is on you... 2006-11-15 21:59:18 [Message] russjohnson : Steve must've slipped under the table....ah well.....any time any of you have service questions, feel free to call. 2006-11-15 21:59:35 [Message] russjohnson : Thank you and good night 2006-11-15 21:59:47 [Disconnect] russjohnson 2006-11-15 21:59:50 [Message] steve kiser : nah I am fine for now I will prob hit ya up in a day or so, 2006-11-15 22:15:16 [Disconnect] steve kiser 2006-11-15 23:35:40 [Login] william gurley 2006-11-15 23:35:40 [iP] william gurley: 71.12.6.125 2006-11-15 23:35:41 [Join Room] william gurley -> Town Meeting 2006-11-15 23:35:48 [Disconnect] william gurley

We have done a smaller (much) version of the rails with cable and it is a pita factor in itself with other products and I can only imagine what it would be like with an acrylic to clean as you go. You two got yourself in a doozy sized job and over water no less. I like the color but not how it hides the wood so much. I guess I am spoiled on the more natural appearance. Great job! Rod!~

This is tonight folks! (wed 11/15 8pm eastern) Beth :cup:

www.acrproducts.com <--- ACR. They are the vendor sponsoring the round table I spoke of. Beth

If you are using the skin called TGS Satellite you should have the option to remain logged in. Go tot he lower left corner of the screen to select the skin. The next time you login to the forums you should have a little box that says SAVE or Remember Me or something like that next to where you sign in. Check it off. Beth

Hi Troy, Did you see the link to the ACR Products round table this weekend? You don't want to miss it. It's inder the Easter Region News and Events forum. Beth

Personally, I think we are very fortunate here on TGS to have such a wonderful group of vendors who support the site and the industry. Thank you all! :) Beth

Should be a great chat! See you there!!! Beth

John, Rod just went through a no pressure issue with ours. I'll ask him to post here later. There was an in-line filter that had a plastic screw on casing that had small cracks in it...that was our culprit. If you have that you might try moving the filter to the end of the hose on your pigtail. We did, and it worked. Sometimes also the squeeze ball gets boogies inside that you need to clean out. Hope this helps. Beth p.s. you could bring it to Toms so we can all learn and fix it together!

I have also heard of using it in Carpenter bee holes before sealing with caulk to destroy the nest. Rod!~

Welcome to TGS! Grab a snack, and read...you may be here for hours at a time. Ask questions as you go. There is a wealth of information here, and lots of helpful folks. By the way - there is a meeting this Sunday in PA, Nov 19th - ACR Product Round Table - supposed to be about 80 people there getting together. You should drive in for it. There is a link with info in the Eastern Regional News & Events area. Beth

We use the Shop Vac units (stainless) and they have worked just fine. $149.00 @ HD or Lowes Rod!~

Your local hd or lowes will have a gutter sealant or seamer that comes in caulking tubes. You can apply it by directions which in most cases needs to be clean and dry. Charge a flat rate for cleaning and add on the sealing to get your price. Rod!~

....and they want to seal this ipe dock so it will look good for less than 24 hours before it gets dookied again? Insane. Beth :cup:

Welcome Bill! :) Beth :cup:

That, is some huge....bird stuff... Beth

Swirley swirley...nasty nasty.... beth

http://www.compositelumber.org/news_2006_11_01.html [Washington, DC] -- The Composite Lumber Manufacturers Association (CLMA) and the North American Deck and Railing Association, Inc. (NADRA) have joined together in a cooperative mutual working relationship. The Board of Directors of both organizations have agreed to the formalization of this new strategic alliance. CLMA is the North American trade association that represents the composite lumber industry’s manufacturing companies and their material suppliers. CLMA is headquartered in Washington, D.C. CLMA represents manufacturers and suppliers of composite lumber to the residential and commercial building construction markets. Russell K. Snyder serves as Executive Director of the CLMA. The CLMA mission is “to provide a forum to advance the composite lumber industry in those matters, which member companies cannot accomplish individually or can better accomplish together”. NADRA is the voice of the deck, dock and railing industry. NADRA is headquartered in Meridian, Idaho. Michael Beaudry serves as Executive Vice President of the organization. Its mission is “to provide a unified source for the professional development, promotion, growth, and sustenance of the deck and railing building industry in North America so that members can exceed the expectations of their customers”. Significantly, in what is a mutually reciprocal action, CLMA has publicly endorsed NADRA as the decking industry's preferred contractor and distributor's organization, and NADRA has publicly endorsed CLMA as the composite lumber industry's preferred manufacturers association. The new CLMA – NADRA alliance will focus their initial activities to these priorities: Conducting regularly scheduled teleconferences and meetings of a joint CLMA/NADRA Codes Task Force. Organizing a joint task force that would serve to identify and create technical bulletins for publications on both Association websites, such as maintenance tips. This same task force would also evaluate other technical information needs that will be co-produced, such as a repair and maintenance brochure. CLMA members will continue to support DeckEXPO, the official tradeshow of the NADRA and the premier tradeshow for the deck, dock and railing industry. Additionally, CLMA will support Professional Deck Builder magazine, and explore additional opportunities to work together with HanleyWood Exhibitions and magazines. Continuation of bi-annual meetings with the joint leaderships to discuss opportunities to work together. The alliance will serve to further the respective agenda of both organizations, as well as their combined priorities “The formation of the Alliance will assist the memberships of both organizations with professional development, promotion, joint representation,” commented CLMA Executive Director, Russell K. Snyder. “The members of CLMA and NADRA will strive to solidify optimal recommendations, and be able to speak with one voice to the regulators, code officials and in the standards bodies, as well as to further promotion of the rapidly growing building products used in constructing decks, docks, railings and fences.” “Bringing our industry’s trade associations together as we have here with NADRA and CLMA allows for fluid communication for the purpose of supporting the industry as a whole. This is a tremendous step forward for this rapidly growing industry. NADRA looks forward to a long and rewarding relationship with the CLMA,” commented NADRA Executive Vice President Michael Beaudry. “As NADRA continues to develop its contractor education programs, we will look to members of CLMA for input and support.” For further information regarding CLMA, contact: Composite Lumber Manufacturers Association, 1156 – 15th Street, NW, Suite 900, Washington, DC 20005; telephone: 202-207-0906; fax: 202-331-2714; www.compositelumber.org. For further information regarding NADRA, contact: North American Deck and Railing Association, PO Box 1324, Meridian, Idaho 83680; telephone/fax: 888 623-7248; www.NADRA.org. ###

Also read this! http://forums.thegrimescene.com/showthread.php?t=8055

A suggestion: Are you ever reminded to listen to the voice inside? Your heart, your soul, your spirit all speak to you and if you aren't listening they become what I can liken to the term 'atrophied' and unheard. To 'hear' them takes personal conviction, determination and discipline to accomplish. Quite your mind and meditate on silence...you know, the inner dialog that's constantly buzzing...stop it. Then listen in the tranquility of your silence. The message is for you alone and does not apply to others who's life has come to pass along a different path and whose circumstances are completely different than yours. Listen to the voice inside and live accordingly. Rod!~

Ok Jeff, you got your wish. Now, If the country goes to hell in a handbasket guess who's house is going to get egged?? JK...we voted the d-way (Republicans say "if it has a "D" by it, it means Don't vote, but if it has an "R" by it, it means that it's the Right choice...how hard is that?" I guess that logic doesn't work for everyone. We'll see how things turn out. Yes, taxes are going to get raised to pay for the spending and tax cuts the republicans made over the years but at least in the end there will be a 'Balanced' budget and the deficit will be reduced in the process. Rod!~

There is an article on Artillery Fungus in the Library Forum here on TGS. Beth :groovy2:

Welcome Ben! :) Beth

It's that time of year....the season winds down and the chat gets going! We have two very cool chats scheduled so far for November. The info is as follows: :) Wednesday November 8th - 8:00 PM eastern - Roof Cleaning Chat with host Don Phelps :) Wednesday November 15th - 8:00 PM eastern - Basics Equipment Service with host Russ Johnson This is a great way to network and get wonderful information to help you grow your business. Join us here, see YOU then! Beth