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18th Annual Convention for Window Cleaners The convention committee has planned a great line-up of speakers and seminars. Early bird prices on registration end December 15th – so sign up before then. Watch for a registration packet which will be mailed soon. 18th Annual Convention for Window Cleaners January 31-February 3, 2007 TRADE SHOW: February 2-3, 2007 Gaylord Opryland Nashville Hotel 2802 Opryland Drive Nashville, TN 37214 Rooms are just $159.00 per night Orpyland Reservations: 615-889-1000 For more information - See a preview here! - Online registration coming soon.

PWNA Convention - March 14-17, 2007, Mesa Arizona The Hilton Phoenix East/Mesa hotel is centrally located in the heart of Phoenix, Arizona's East Valley. This Hilton hotel in Mesa, Arizona is just 12 miles from Phoenix Sky Harbor Airport and minutes away from Phoenix, Scottsdale, Chandler, Tempe and Gilbert. Our ideal location allows for easy freeway access in all directions to attractions such as Arizona State University, the Phoenix Zoo, Bank One Ballpark, the Heard Museum and corporate offices including Motorola, Boeing, Honeywell and Intel. Las Sendas, Troon and the courses of American Golf are only a short drive away; let our Concierge make arrangements for a tee time during your stay. Fiesta Mall is right across the street and a 9-hole executive golf course is adjacent to the Hilton Phoenix East/Mesa hotel. There are numerous restaurants, shopping centers, movie theatres and activities nearby and our complimentary shuttle will take you there within a 3-mile radius. The Hilton Phoenix East/Mesa hotel's 260 guestrooms and suites have recently been remodeled and feature up-to-the-minute amenities such as wireless high-speed internet access, dual line telephones with voicemail, cable televisions with premium sports channels, dozens of premium movies, and even Nintendo games. For Hilton Phoenix East/Mesa hotel guests desiring upgraded amenities, we offer the Executive Club Floor featuring access to the club lounge serving complimentary continental breakfast and evening hors d'oeuvres daily. Whether our Hilton hotel guests are visiting Phoenix for business or leisure they can relax in the Arizona sun, taking a dip in the hotel's heated pool, two spas and even ordering room service poolside. For an invigorating workout, The Hilton Phoenix East/Mesa hotel fitness center provides cardiovascular and body conditioning equipment. The Hilton Phoenix East/Mesa hotel's Concierge desk will be pleased to make any sightseeing arrangements whether it is a trip to the Grand Canyon, horseback riding, Jeep Tours, bass fishing or a twilight cruise on Canyon Lake. In the valley of the Arizona sun, comfort and service come together - where travel is more than just A to B! Travel should take you places! Amenities AAA Hotel Diamond Rating: Hilton HHonors Reward Category : 2 (20,000 points per night) Guest Accommodations more Accommodations Our oversized Standard Rooms surround you in 364 square feet of comfort, complemented by vibrant Southwestern flair. Choose between one king or two queen beds, or request connecting rooms for larger parties. Each room also features French-door access to your own private balcony with a wonderful view of the valley. Relax with your cable television featuring HBO, CNN, and ESPN. A delivered daily newspaper and a refrigerator, hairdryer, and coffeemaker make your mornings a little easier. And, high-speed Internet access and a telephone with speakerphone and voice mail keep you in touch with friends, clients, and family. Make the best of your Phoenix experience at Hilton Phoenix East/Mesa.

PWNA puts on a nice event. We have been to several, and have learned something at each one. Personally, I think it is worth doing at least once, but you have to immerse yourself don't just sit in the classes and keep to yourself. Talk, talk, talk, network, pick brains, and absorb. Looks like there are quite a few specialty events coming up in 07, depending on the market you serve. Check the Industry News and Events forum. Beth

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2006-11-08 20:08:22 [Message] squirtgun: hello all 2006-11-08 20:08:23 [Message] donphelps: Hi David and Scott 2006-11-08 20:08:38 [Message] DAVIDv: Hi everyone 2006-11-08 20:08:43 [Message] donphelps: It went very well.....We got out of there in 9 days 2006-11-08 20:08:56 [Message] FCPWLLC: Sounds like good $ 2006-11-08 20:08:58 [Message] DAVIDv: What's up Don 2006-11-08 20:09:13 [Message] donphelps: Hey David...How's it going? 2006-11-08 20:09:24 [Message] donphelps: It was great $$$ 2006-11-08 20:09:38 [Message] squirtgun: Don what was teh final total of chems used on the job? 2006-11-08 20:09:48 [Message] FCPWLLC: Didn't break any pvc wands? lol 2006-11-08 20:09:51 [Message] donphelps: We bid it at just under $37,500 2006-11-08 20:10:08 [Message] DAVIDv: Good Thanx 2006-11-08 20:10:25 [Message] donphelps: lol....no wands broken and we used about 18 gallons of chem 2006-11-08 20:10:46 [Message] donphelps: lol....1800 gallons, that is 2006-11-08 20:10:49 [Message] squirtgun: lol 2006-11-08 20:10:58 [Message] FCPWLLC: Can you say profit margin? 2006-11-08 20:11:00 [Message] squirtgun: I was wondering what super chem you had 2006-11-08 20:11:26 [Message] donphelps: I can say 'new boat' if the wife doesn't veto it......lol 2006-11-08 20:11:28 [Message] FCPWLLC: 18 gallons if you use TSP lol 2006-11-08 20:11:43 [Message] donphelps: maybe.....lol 2006-11-08 20:12:10 [Message] donphelps: so...what have you guys been doing with regards to roofs....staying busy? 2006-11-08 20:12:40 [Message] DAVIDv: Don I'd like to some labor for learning in the spring...If that cool with you. 2006-11-08 20:12:43 [Message] FCPWLLC: I got 3 roofs for SAT. Ill try to get video of the Delavan shooting chem. 2006-11-08 20:12:45 [Message] squirtgun: just remember to box up all the 3/8" hose an shur-flo's by next week.You don't need them anymore and next Thursday is my birthday 2006-11-08 20:13:16 [Message] donphelps: Sounds good, David....We'll work out the details as it gets closer. 2006-11-08 20:13:30 [Message] DAVIDv: Great..thanx 2006-11-08 20:13:38 [Message] donphelps: Those Delavans look pretty good 2006-11-08 20:13:43 [Message] squirtgun: We cleaned a small one 2 weeks ago.15 miknutes to apply and 40 to rinse 2006-11-08 20:14:01 [Message] DAVIDv: I got a couple lined up for spring 2006-11-08 20:14:06 [Message] FCPWLLC: So far it has been nice. Time will only tell if it will last. 2006-11-08 20:14:17 [Message] donphelps: Scott, we'll be heading to KY for Thanksgiving and we'll try to hook up on the way by. 2006-11-08 20:14:24 [Message] DAVIDv: My season is about over up here 2006-11-08 20:14:44 [Message] speck_chaser: hey all 2006-11-08 20:14:50 [Message] FCPWLLC: Don, where you going here in KY? 2006-11-08 20:14:57 [Message] squirtgun: whats' up Thad 2006-11-08 20:15:02 [Message] speck_chaser: Jelly country! 2006-11-08 20:15:08 [Message] squirtgun: when you going to KY Don 2006-11-08 20:15:09 [Message] speck_chaser: howdy scott 2006-11-08 20:15:12 [Message] donphelps: Yeah, it's weird for us FL guys because everything is backwards....We'll be busy through the holidays if we want to be. 2006-11-08 20:15:23 [Message] speck_chaser: it's hot here 2006-11-08 20:15:30 [Message] donphelps: Tues. before TG 2006-11-08 20:15:33 [Message] speck_chaser: busy through christmas usually 2006-11-08 20:15:51 [Message] squirtgun: call me maybe we can work out lunch 2006-11-08 20:15:54 [Message] FCPWLLC: What part of KY don? 2006-11-08 20:15:58 [Message] donphelps: June, July and August are my slowest months. 2006-11-08 20:16:04 [Message] speck_chaser: me too 2006-11-08 20:16:04 [Message] donphelps: Madisonville 2006-11-08 20:16:20 [Message] DAVIDv: Those are my months 2006-11-08 20:16:24 [Message] FCPWLLC: My siters in laws are form there. 2006-11-08 20:16:27 [Message] donphelps: Things gettin' better in LA, Thad? 2006-11-08 20:16:29 [Message] speck_chaser: too hot to work here, anyway 2006-11-08 20:16:35 [Message] speck_chaser: yeah, i guess 2006-11-08 20:16:44 [Message] speck_chaser: still fubar 2006-11-08 20:16:47 [Message] speck_chaser: :-) 2006-11-08 20:17:02 [Message] donphelps: You told me about that one time before, Michael 2006-11-08 20:17:08 [Message] squirtgun: lower 82's here,but we have been down into teh 30's at night 2006-11-08 20:17:19 [Message] FCPWLLC: Yes, on cleaning talk 2006-11-08 20:17:25 [Message] donphelps: 70's and windy today here 2006-11-08 20:17:38 [Message] speck_chaser: we got these huge salt marsh mosquitoes carrying off livestock and children this year 2006-11-08 20:17:46 [Message] speck_chaser: got blown in by katrina 2006-11-08 20:18:07 [Message] speck_chaser: man, those things hurt like yellowjackets 2006-11-08 20:18:29 [Message] speck_chaser: hey, has anyone run a roof rig out of a cargo van? 2006-11-08 20:18:57 [Message] FCPWLLC: Roof question... Down spout diverters? yes, no? 2006-11-08 20:19:07 [Message] donphelps: The first person to email me at allseasonsexteriors@gmail.com will get a free PVC wand with stainless fittings....Put "Give me a Wand" in the header. 2006-11-08 20:19:21 [Message] squirtgun: I would coat the walls with something to slow down the deterioration from the SH 2006-11-08 20:19:22 [Disconnect] FCPWLLC 2006-11-08 20:19:32 [Login] FCPWLLC 2006-11-08 20:19:32 [iP] FCPWLLC: 74.140.254.10 2006-11-08 20:19:33 [Join Room] FCPWLLC: 2006-11-08 20:19:37 [Disconnect] squirtgun 2006-11-08 20:19:37 [Message] donphelps: we don't usually use them but I know some do 2006-11-08 20:19:45 [Login] squirtgun 2006-11-08 20:19:45 [iP] squirtgun: 68.217.214.109 2006-11-08 20:19:45 [Join Room] squirtgun: 2006-11-08 20:19:54 [Disconnect] FCPWLLC 2006-11-08 20:20:00 [Message] donphelps: lol....everybody is logging out 2006-11-08 20:20:01 [Message] speck_chaser: in or out? 2006-11-08 20:20:02 [Login] FCPWLLC 2006-11-08 20:20:02 [iP] FCPWLLC: 74.140.254.10 2006-11-08 20:20:02 [Join Room] FCPWLLC: 2006-11-08 20:20:03 [Message] squirtgun: ouch that was painful 2006-11-08 20:20:06 [Message] speck_chaser: c'mon 2006-11-08 20:20:19 [Message] FCPWLLC: &%^%&%&()%#$$ Pop ups 2006-11-08 20:20:40 [Message] speck_chaser: yeah, i was thinking about using that roll on stuff that fcpcpll used in his trailer 2006-11-08 20:20:50 [Message] donphelps: Maybe that wasn't such a good idea....everyone is having problems now, lol 2006-11-08 20:20:56 [Message] speck_chaser: lol 2006-11-08 20:21:03 [Message] speck_chaser: was i first? 2006-11-08 20:21:13 [Message] FCPWLLC: That stuff is cool, Just gotta get it on thick 2006-11-08 20:21:17 [Message] donphelps: I'll let ya know in a sec. 2006-11-08 20:21:28 [Message] speck_chaser: the other thing i'm worried about is fumes 2006-11-08 20:21:34 [Message] speck_chaser: Love aroma 2006-11-08 20:21:50 [Message] squirtgun: Roof vent and a wall sepertaing the passenger compartment 2006-11-08 20:22:05 [Message] speck_chaser: gotcha 2006-11-08 20:22:27 [Message] speck_chaser: i got a chance to get a cargo van for less than a cargo trailer so i'm a-thinkin' 2006-11-08 20:22:51 [Message] FCPWLLC: Full size or Astro size 2006-11-08 20:22:57 [Message] speck_chaser: sull 2006-11-08 20:23:01 [Message] speck_chaser: full 2006-11-08 20:23:06 [Message] FCPWLLC: cool 2006-11-08 20:23:15 [Message] speck_chaser: white 2006-11-08 20:23:18 [Message] FCPWLLC: Lots of love 2006-11-08 20:23:26 [Message] speck_chaser: lots of advertising space 2006-11-08 20:23:30 [Message] donphelps: I saw something done the other day that I hadn't seen before...One of my friends was cleaning a roof over in the Tampa area and they sprayed the metal boots and vents on the roof with WD-40 first 2006-11-08 20:23:32 [Message] FCPWLLC: yes 2006-11-08 20:23:52 [Message] speck_chaser: to keep them from corroding? 2006-11-08 20:24:06 [Message] donphelps: To help prevent corrosion or paint fading 2006-11-08 20:24:21 [Message] FCPWLLC: How'd it turn out? 2006-11-08 20:24:21 [Message] donphelps: Thad wins the wand! Congrats 2006-11-08 20:24:24 [Message] speck_chaser: lets spray down the windows, too! 2006-11-08 20:24:32 [Message] speck_chaser: cool. 2006-11-08 20:24:36 [Message] squirtgun: Thad you are way fast dude 2006-11-08 20:24:37 [Message] speck_chaser: thanks don. 2006-11-08 20:24:39 [Message] FCPWLLC: Maybe now he will clean a roof 2006-11-08 20:24:42 [Message] donphelps: It worked out great 2006-11-08 20:24:45 [Message] speck_chaser: maybe;) 2006-11-08 20:24:53 [Message] donphelps: lol...you're welcome, Thad 2006-11-08 20:25:12 [Message] donphelps: Now he has one less excuse lol 2006-11-08 20:25:14 [Message] speck_chaser: really, i think i'll have time to actually start breaking that open around here 2006-11-08 20:25:22 [Message] FCPWLLC: I gotta 1.8 shurflo catching dust Thad 2006-11-08 20:25:27 [Message] speck_chaser: stop making fun of me just because I suck 2006-11-08 20:25:29 [Message] squirtgun: I'm going to rebuild our rig the winter,the SH and other chems have beat the paint pretty bad 2006-11-08 20:25:31 [Message] speck_chaser: lol 2006-11-08 20:25:36 [Message] donphelps: It should be a great market for it....much like FL 2006-11-08 20:25:51 [Message] speck_chaser: how much fer taht 1.8? email me if you want. 2006-11-08 20:25:52 [Message] squirtgun: Thinking about powder coating the whole thing 2006-11-08 20:26:08 [Message] FCPWLLC: Rhino liner 2006-11-08 20:26:16 [Message] speck_chaser: oh, the roofs that didn't get blown off are sirty but no one has heard of cleaning them 2006-11-08 20:26:33 [Message] squirtgun: we have the same problen here Thad 2006-11-08 20:26:38 [Message] speck_chaser: yeah 2006-11-08 20:26:47 [Message] donphelps: I saw JL's trailer when he picked it up in ORL and they had coated it with Line-X.....It looked great. 2006-11-08 20:26:50 [Message] DAVIDv: Then send me the wand LOL 2006-11-08 20:26:59 [Message] speck_chaser: got to wait for the FL people to get sick of FL and move here 2006-11-08 20:27:00 [Message] squirtgun: one other company pffers roof cleaning,but they use sodiumhydrox 2006-11-08 20:27:10 [Message] speck_chaser: yuck 2006-11-08 20:27:27 [Message] speck_chaser: i actually have some stuff to get lined up once I get the rig running 2006-11-08 20:27:28 [Message] FCPWLLC: Sounds like too much work 2006-11-08 20:27:43 [Message] donphelps: What ratios do you guys usually mix at? 2006-11-08 20:27:49 [Message] speck_chaser: just need to get off my behind 2006-11-08 20:27:57 [Message] donphelps: lol, so do it. 2006-11-08 20:28:04 [Message] speck_chaser: i know 2006-11-08 20:28:20 [Message] FCPWLLC: I have been doing 1 sh to 2 water but thining I gan go weaker 2006-11-08 20:28:22 [Message] speck_chaser: i said i have time to get it now. 2006-11-08 20:28:31 [Message] DAVIDv: No one offers here...this summer was real bad for mold 2006-11-08 20:28:35 [Message] squirtgun: I xjet roof so I end up with 3:1 pulling straight SH from a 5 gallon bucket 2006-11-08 20:28:45 [Message] squirtgun: maybe 4% hitting the roof 2006-11-08 20:28:46 [Message] speck_chaser: straight 12%? 2006-11-08 20:28:52 [Message] speck_chaser: ok 2006-11-08 20:28:52 [Message] squirtgun: yes 2006-11-08 20:29:20 [Message] donphelps: We used to mix stronger, but the JB's put out pretty decent flow so we mix weaker to compensate. 2006-11-08 20:29:23 [Message] speck_chaser: don, if you send me the wand i solemnly swear to use it. 2006-11-08 20:29:48 [Message] donphelps: lol....It's going out this week if all goes well. 2006-11-08 20:29:49 [Message] speck_chaser: lower chem ratio and higher flow.... sounds familiar! 2006-11-08 20:29:51 [Message] FCPWLLC: The JB's flow and psi are? 2006-11-08 20:30:23 [Message] speck_chaser: hard question, apparently 2006-11-08 20:30:29 [Message] donphelps: 4gpm and we have ours set at about 125 psi, but the can go higher 2006-11-08 20:30:35 [Message] speck_chaser: wow 2006-11-08 20:30:46 [Message] speck_chaser: that there'll shore shoot it 2006-11-08 20:30:50 [Message] squirtgun: Don will tell you that xjetting is way hard and I agree,but we don't do that many roofs so I haven't spent the money 2006-11-08 20:30:51 [Message] FCPWLLC: cool What size tip are you using? 2006-11-08 20:31:31 [Message] speck_chaser: .... 2006-11-08 20:31:35 [Message] donphelps: It's hard for Scott to justify anything different for the most part. 2006-11-08 20:31:43 [Message] speck_chaser: proprietary info, mike 2006-11-08 20:32:04 [Message] FCPWLLC: I am using a 0040 with the 5.3 Delavan. Any smaller and the pump cycles on and off too much 2006-11-08 20:32:17 [Message] donphelps: We use #6530's and #8030's usually 2006-11-08 20:32:19 [Message] speck_chaser: how far will it shoot? 2006-11-08 20:32:32 [Message] donphelps: sorry...dogs are hounding me, lol 2006-11-08 20:32:49 [Message] speck_chaser: hounds are dogging you 2006-11-08 20:32:55 [Message] FCPWLLC: about 35 feet horizontal but maybe 20 vertical 2006-11-08 20:33:02 [Message] donphelps: What size fittings are you using, Mike? 2006-11-08 20:33:05 [Message] squirtgun: what's up girlz?give him heck 2006-11-08 20:33:07 [Message] speck_chaser: mine finally went to watch tv with judy 2006-11-08 20:33:24 [Message] speck_chaser: they like the decorating channel better than roof chats 2006-11-08 20:33:28 [Message] FCPWLLC: 3/8 hose 2006-11-08 20:33:33 [Message] speck_chaser: dogs are dumb 2006-11-08 20:33:41 [Message] FCPWLLC: 1/4 tips 2006-11-08 20:34:14 [Message] speck_chaser: what were you getting with the 1.8? 2006-11-08 20:34:15 [Message] donphelps: Put 3/8" sockets/plugs on there and it might get rid of the cycling. 2006-11-08 20:34:18 [Login] pressureprosinc 2006-11-08 20:34:18 [iP] pressureprosinc: 68.80.169.65 2006-11-08 20:34:18 [Join Room] pressureprosinc: 2006-11-08 20:34:29 [Message] pressureprosinc: finally 2006-11-08 20:34:33 [Message] donphelps: Hi Ken 2006-11-08 20:34:39 [Message] speck_chaser: shh, he's here 2006-11-08 20:34:45 [Message] pressureprosinc: hiya Don.. how is everyone? 2006-11-08 20:34:48 [Message] speck_chaser: hi ken 2006-11-08 20:35:03 [Message] DAVIDv: Hi Ken 2006-11-08 20:35:10 [Message] squirtgun: see I told you they didn't kill kenny 2006-11-08 20:35:13 [Message] speck_chaser: <crickets> 2006-11-08 20:35:15 [Message] squirtgun: hi Ken 2006-11-08 20:35:20 [Message] FCPWLLC: the 1.8 would shoot 20+ but with a 0010 tip and very weak stream that was slave to wind 2006-11-08 20:35:23 [Message] donphelps: good....just chatting it up. 2006-11-08 20:35:28 [Message] pressureprosinc: sorry about the late arrival.. I nearly committed hari kari trying to access this thing 2006-11-08 20:35:40 [Message] donphelps: Yeah, a 1.8 isn'y going to do much shooting 2006-11-08 20:35:48 [Message] donphelps: lol 2006-11-08 20:36:10 [Message] speck_chaser: *) 2006-11-08 20:36:21 [Message] FCPWLLC: the 5.3 is much better. Just need to see how long it will last 2006-11-08 20:36:41 [Message] speck_chaser: i need to move somewhere that has horizontal roofs 2006-11-08 20:36:51 [Message] FCPWLLC: lol 2006-11-08 20:36:53 [Message] speck_chaser: not these 12/12 monstrosities 2006-11-08 20:37:00 [Message] pressureprosinc: amen 2006-11-08 20:37:08 [Message] squirtgun: shoot them from the eaves on teh ladder 2006-11-08 20:37:11 [Message] speck_chaser: some are 15/12 2006-11-08 20:37:17 [Message] speck_chaser: yeah 2006-11-08 20:37:33 [Message] speck_chaser: i posted some pics a while back 2006-11-08 20:37:41 [Message] pressureprosinc: so what is the consensus on asphalt shingles? Rinse/no rinse? 2006-11-08 20:37:49 [Message] FCPWLLC: rinse 2006-11-08 20:37:50 [Message] squirtgun: rinse 2006-11-08 20:38:07 [Message] FCPWLLC: Control your run off 2006-11-08 20:38:09 [Message] speck_chaser: it'll rain soon 2006-11-08 20:38:17 [Message] speck_chaser: :D 2006-11-08 20:38:28 [Message] pressureprosinc: Thats another issue Mike... the main reason I shy away from doing roofs 2006-11-08 20:38:34 [Message] donphelps: Time for another free wand....First person to email me at allseasonsexteriors@gmail.com with "The Wand" in the header wins. 2006-11-08 20:39:02 [Message] speck_chaser: haha 2006-11-08 20:39:11 [Message] donphelps: We rinse ours always if they're shingle 2006-11-08 20:39:32 [Message] donphelps: you can't win, Thad...lol 2006-11-08 20:39:38 [Message] speck_chaser: :D 2006-11-08 20:39:45 [Message] speck_chaser: o can be first, though 2006-11-08 20:39:59 [Message] donphelps: as far as you know....lol 2006-11-08 20:40:05 [Message] speck_chaser: i'm a little competitive 2006-11-08 20:40:21 [Message] squirtgun: second palce is first loser 2006-11-08 20:40:25 [Message] speck_chaser: have you ever had a problem from not rinsing? 2006-11-08 20:40:27 [Message] squirtgun: place 2006-11-08 20:40:52 [Message] donphelps: David Vicars just got himself another wand.....Congrats Dave! 2006-11-08 20:40:53 [Message] speck_chaser: any horror stories of shingles curling up live autumn leaves? 2006-11-08 20:41:05 [Message] pressureprosinc: By the time I switch browser windows, sign in and get my email to you I should be the first email for next month's chat 2006-11-08 20:41:19 [Message] DAVIDv: Thanks Don 2006-11-08 20:41:20 [Message] FCPWLLC: lol 2006-11-08 20:41:20 [Message] pressureprosinc: Go Dave! 2006-11-08 20:41:22 [Message] donphelps: I've seen some that were already curled up before I got there 2006-11-08 20:41:32 [Message] speck_chaser: did you pass on the job? 2006-11-08 20:41:36 [Message] donphelps: You're welcome, Sir! 2006-11-08 20:41:37 [Message] squirtgun: You clean those? 2006-11-08 20:41:49 [Message] FCPWLLC: I tried just clicking on his email address and it logs you out 2006-11-08 20:42:07 [Message] squirtgun: Mobile home shingles are bad about curling like that 2006-11-08 20:42:14 [Message] donphelps: I'll clean them if it's otherwise safe, but there's some serious language in the estimate 2006-11-08 20:42:14 [Message] speck_chaser: you have to make this face when you click :o 2006-11-08 20:42:15 [Message] FCPWLLC: lol 2006-11-08 20:42:16 [Message] pressureprosinc: thats why I went to a different window... here is another age old debate... 2006-11-08 20:42:31 [Message] pressureprosinc: the guy I have coming out tommorrow is using sodium hydroxide 2006-11-08 20:42:34 [Message] pressureprosinc: thoughts? 2006-11-08 20:42:39 [Message] squirtgun: we just tell them we can't do them and suggest a new roof 2006-11-08 20:42:40 [Message] speck_chaser: on your house? 2006-11-08 20:42:48 [Message] squirtgun: how oldis teh roof Ken? 2006-11-08 20:42:52 [Message] donphelps: I 2006-11-08 20:42:54 [Message] FCPWLLC: It's his profit margin going down the drain 2006-11-08 20:42:59 [Message] pressureprosinc: I'm guessing about 15 2006-11-08 20:43:06 [Message] speck_chaser: and a lot of tar, too 2006-11-08 20:43:08 [Message] pressureprosinc: I agre Mike 2006-11-08 20:43:14 [Message] donphelps: My 'puter keeps sticking 2006-11-08 20:43:19 [Message] squirtgun: a lot of pressure for a roof that old 2006-11-08 20:43:25 [Message] squirtgun: expect granule loss 2006-11-08 20:43:36 [Message] speck_chaser: wait til you see the molasses pouring off the roof 2006-11-08 20:43:43 [Message] donphelps: We'll clean them, but there's a lot of language in the estimate about it first 2006-11-08 20:43:45 [Message] pressureprosinc: Thats my feeling. I got his GL cert 2006-11-08 20:43:47 [Message] FCPWLLC: Check his insurance 2006-11-08 20:44:08 [Message] pressureprosinc: Faxed fresh from his agent 2006-11-08 20:44:13 [Message] squirtgun: it;s nota pretty sight when the coffe start to run 2006-11-08 20:44:18 [Message] speck_chaser: i bet he has a lot of 'strong language in the estimate' 2006-11-08 20:44:24 [Disconnect] donphelps 2006-11-08 20:44:28 [Message] speck_chaser: to cover it 2006-11-08 20:44:44 [Login] donphelps 2006-11-08 20:44:44 [iP] donphelps: 72.154.140.41 2006-11-08 20:44:45 [Join Room] donphelps: 2006-11-08 20:44:50 [Message] speck_chaser: uh-oh. don was using naoh. 2006-11-08 20:44:53 [Message] squirtgun: welcome back host 2006-11-08 20:44:57 [Message] pressureprosinc: He swears his method is better via extensive testing 2006-11-08 20:45:09 [Message] pressureprosinc: wb Don 2006-11-08 20:45:18 [Message] donphelps: lol...this isn't good. keyboard keeps going crazy 2006-11-08 20:45:25 [Message] speck_chaser: who did the testing, ken? 2006-11-08 20:45:29 [Message] donphelps: glad I could make it....lol 2006-11-08 20:45:38 [Message] speck_chaser: i'll bet is was a roofing co. 2006-11-08 20:45:48 [Message] speck_chaser: ;) 2006-11-08 20:45:53 [Message] squirtgun: I have done roofs both ways,and sodium hydrox is much harder 2006-11-08 20:46:04 [Message] speck_chaser: and damaging 2006-11-08 20:46:10 [Message] squirtgun: i agree 2006-11-08 20:46:14 [Message] pressureprosinc: He did, Speck (Scott?) 2006-11-08 20:46:27 [Message] speck_chaser: i didn't scot 2006-11-08 20:46:34 [Message] speck_chaser: what? 2006-11-08 20:46:40 [Message] squirtgun: huh? 2006-11-08 20:46:40 [Message] pressureprosinc: whats your first name I forget 2006-11-08 20:46:49 [Message] squirtgun: Thad is his name 2006-11-08 20:46:50 [Message] FCPWLLC: The reason for the pressure waher is due to the fact that the Sodium Hydroxide doesn't work. It only softens up the asphalt to help when using "moderate" pressure 2006-11-08 20:46:52 [Message] donphelps: It makes a great degreaser though, lol 2006-11-08 20:46:58 [Message] pressureprosinc: Thad thats right I'm sorry 2006-11-08 20:47:04 [Message] speck_chaser: oh, me 2006-11-08 20:47:17 [Message] pressureprosinc: I was answering whom did the testing 2006-11-08 20:47:19 [Message] speck_chaser: i thought you were having a seizure 2006-11-08 20:47:25 [Message] squirtgun: lol 2006-11-08 20:47:27 [Message] pressureprosinc: lol 2006-11-08 20:47:40 [Message] speck_chaser: ptang! ptang! 2006-11-08 20:47:46 [Message] donphelps: I feel like I'm having one....wrong time for 'puter probs here 2006-11-08 20:47:54 [Message] squirtgun: ken make hi clean the gutter first,then have a look after he cleans the roof 2006-11-08 20:47:56 [Message] pressureprosinc: I swear I don't have Terets 2006-11-08 20:48:03 [Message] donphelps: lol 2006-11-08 20:48:20 [Message] pressureprosinc: I unfrotunately don't have the luxury of staying at that jobsite tommorow 2006-11-08 20:48:30 [Message] speck_chaser: uh-oh 2006-11-08 20:48:36 [Message] squirtgun: the granules in the gutters will shock you 2006-11-08 20:48:42 [Message] speck_chaser: yep 2006-11-08 20:49:05 [Message] pressureprosinc: I don't want to mention him by name, but you guys know him especially those of you that post at TCN 2006-11-08 20:49:08 [Message] donphelps: So, what's the most hairy or difficult roof cleaning you've ever done....anybody? 2006-11-08 20:49:09 [Message] speck_chaser: and all the lovely brown sludge and foam 2006-11-08 20:49:29 [Message] speck_chaser: the ones i'm whining about and haven't done yet 2006-11-08 20:49:34 [Message] FCPWLLC: G 2006-11-08 20:49:59 [Message] FCPWLLC: Chocolate town 2006-11-08 20:50:00 [Message] donphelps: I've done a few tile that left me shaking like a leaf back in the day. 2006-11-08 20:50:28 [Message] pressureprosinc: Don, those barel tiles you guys have down there would freak me a little 2006-11-08 20:50:28 [Grant Admin] bethnrod: donphelps 2006-11-08 20:50:29 [Message] speck_chaser: i have decided that life is too short and precious to skate on top of someone's house 2006-11-08 20:50:51 [Message] speck_chaser: i don't do stuff i used to 2006-11-08 20:50:59 [Message] donphelps: Let's talk roofs and not people. This transcript will be posted tomorrow. 2006-11-08 20:51:33 [Message] pressureprosinc: Yeah thats true, Don. I have faith in the man or I wouldn't have gone ahead 2006-11-08 20:51:40 [Message] donphelps: Yeah Ken, they're a little crazy at times but it's like anything else....You get used to it. 2006-11-08 20:52:01 [Message] donphelps: Tile I mean, lol 2006-11-08 20:52:08 [Message] pressureprosinc: hahaha 2006-11-08 20:52:24 [Message] speck_chaser: man, you guys keep losing me on these left turns 2006-11-08 20:52:43 [Message] donphelps: We're 'Freestyle' around here! 2006-11-08 20:52:52 [Message] speck_chaser: lol 2006-11-08 20:52:57 [Message] FCPWLLC: Keep up Thad 2006-11-08 20:53:02 [Message] speck_chaser: no chance 2006-11-08 20:53:06 [Message] FCPWLLC: lol 2006-11-08 20:53:10 [Message] donphelps: Roof cleaners are usually a little left of center...lol 2006-11-08 20:53:12 [Message] speck_chaser: unless it's an email race 2006-11-08 20:53:18 [Message] speck_chaser: then i'm first! 2006-11-08 20:53:19 [Message] FCPWLLC: lol 2006-11-08 20:53:23 [Message] FCPWLLC: touche 2006-11-08 20:53:34 [Message] speck_chaser: other than that i'm useless 2006-11-08 20:54:15 [Message] squirtgun: you said it not us 2006-11-08 20:54:19 [Message] speck_chaser: who posted an electric pump a while back that was in the low $1G range? 2006-11-08 20:54:27 [Message] donphelps: If we got to 25 people in the chat, I was considering giving a JB away......But? 2006-11-08 20:54:41 [Message] squirtgun: well darn 2006-11-08 20:54:48 [Message] pressureprosinc: whats a JB 2006-11-08 20:54:50 [Message] FCPWLLC: now you tell us 2006-11-08 20:54:55 [Message] squirtgun: John Blue 2006-11-08 20:55:00 [Message] pressureprosinc: john blue? 2006-11-08 20:55:00 [Message] donphelps: maybe next time.....we'll see. 2006-11-08 20:55:04 [Message] pressureprosinc: gotcha 2006-11-08 20:55:05 [Message] FCPWLLC: Not a BJ 2006-11-08 20:55:09 [Message] speck_chaser: oops 2006-11-08 20:55:10 [Message] pressureprosinc: lol mike 2006-11-08 20:55:17 [Message] donphelps: John Blue chlorine pumps 2006-11-08 20:55:30 [Message] pressureprosinc: I have heard Chris mention those 2006-11-08 20:55:34 [Message] speck_chaser: don will be very specific in the future 2006-11-08 20:55:38 [Message] pressureprosinc: or read about them i should say 2006-11-08 20:55:43 [Message] squirtgun: I would clean vinyl with a JB also 2006-11-08 20:55:49 [Message] FCPWLLC: You can tell who has T1 connections 2006-11-08 20:55:55 [Message] pressureprosinc: flow and pressure? 2006-11-08 20:56:13 [Message] donphelps: I have 5 and have never had a problem other that pressure regulators going out. 2006-11-08 20:56:19 [Message] FCPWLLC: I could clean vinyl with my Delavan 2006-11-08 20:56:35 [Message] pressureprosinc: You still loving that pump, Mike? 2006-11-08 20:56:36 [Message] speck_chaser: i bet it would be good for stucco 2006-11-08 20:56:42 [Message] FCPWLLC: yep 2006-11-08 20:56:52 [Message] FCPWLLC: as long as it wil last 2006-11-08 20:56:59 [Message] speck_chaser: dryvit, i should say 2006-11-08 20:57:10 [Disconnect] DAVIDv 2006-11-08 20:57:11 [Message] speck_chaser: 5 gpm? 2006-11-08 20:57:17 [Message] FCPWLLC: 5.3 2006-11-08 20:57:21 [Message] FCPWLLC: lol 2006-11-08 20:57:41 [Message] speck_chaser: that .3 is critical 2006-11-08 20:57:49 [Message] squirtgun: 5800 series or 7800 series 2006-11-08 20:57:49 [Message] FCPWLLC: yep 2006-11-08 20:57:54 [Message] pressureprosinc: gets Michale an extra 2.4 feet 2006-11-08 20:58:04 [Message] FCPWLLC: 7800 2006-11-08 20:58:12 [Message] donphelps: Those Delavans are probably going to be good pumps for residential work. 2006-11-08 20:58:16 [Message] squirtgun: 100 psi 2006-11-08 20:58:21 [Message] FCPWLLC: 60 2006-11-08 20:58:49 [Message] squirtgun: that was a great find Mike 2006-11-08 20:58:58 [Message] pressureprosinc: Do you guys walk the roof whenever possible and rinse with a flood nozle or just get water up there? 2006-11-08 20:59:05 [Message] squirtgun: it looks liek a tough pump 2006-11-08 20:59:22 [Message] speck_chaser: who said they got one for 30 bucks on ebay? 2006-11-08 20:59:30 [Message] FCPWLLC: For the money, I am considering it a throw away if it can get 10+ roofs 2006-11-08 20:59:31 [Message] donphelps: We walk them when possible and rinse with a fire nozzle or the 8 gpm pw. 2006-11-08 20:59:38 [Message] squirtgun: I like scarrinh teh wife so I walk all I can 2006-11-08 20:59:50 [Message] pressureprosinc: LOL Scott 2006-11-08 20:59:58 [Message] pressureprosinc: How are your ankles holding up? 2006-11-08 21:00:03 [Message] squirtgun: I haven't fallen off one,but I have fell on a few 2006-11-08 21:00:23 [Message] speck_chaser: ouch 2006-11-08 21:00:30 [Message] donphelps: That's the good thing about 12v pumps...completely paid for and disposable after a few roofs. 2006-11-08 21:00:47 [Message] squirtgun: They have been carrying around all this weight for so long they don't notice 2006-11-08 21:00:55 [Message] pressureprosinc: Don what size cell do you use to power your 12V's? 2006-11-08 21:00:58 [Message] FCPWLLC: exactly.... if you're pricing roofs right 2006-11-08 21:01:01 [Message] donphelps: My ankles bother me if I do several in a day or if they're steep. 2006-11-08 21:01:06 [Message] pressureprosinc: Scott, you crack me up man 2006-11-08 21:01:12 [Message] squirtgun: you are old 2006-11-08 21:01:23 [Message] donphelps: We use a group 27 deep cycle with 115 amp hours 2006-11-08 21:01:28 [Message] speck_chaser: i've got one really bad ankle and two bad knees 2006-11-08 21:01:49 [Message] speck_chaser: sucks to be me 2006-11-08 21:01:53 [Message] FCPWLLC: <--- deep cycle marine 2006-11-08 21:02:25 [Message] speck_chaser: what kind of tank do you residential guys use? 2006-11-08 21:02:36 [Message] speck_chaser: any particular one seem better? 2006-11-08 21:02:37 [Message] pressureprosinc: for chems? 2006-11-08 21:02:39 [Message] donphelps: I rarely ever use a 12v anymore, but that's how we did'would do it. 2006-11-08 21:02:41 [Message] speck_chaser: yeah 2006-11-08 21:02:48 [Message] squirtgun: <---Titanium implant in neck and the left fott os trying to rot off,but i'll still walk one 2006-11-08 21:02:49 [Message] FCPWLLC: I am using a 35 gallon chem drum poly 2006-11-08 21:02:58 [Message] pressureprosinc: 100 Gallon 2006-11-08 21:03:07 [Message] pressureprosinc: (only for roofs) 2006-11-08 21:03:22 [Message] speck_chaser: oh, i didn't think you did roofs 2006-11-08 21:03:28 [Message] FCPWLLC: Will be moving to 110 soon 2006-11-08 21:03:35 [Message] pressureprosinc: I do about ten a year 2006-11-08 21:03:42 [Message] speck_chaser: do you use a clear one or a UV resistant tank? 2006-11-08 21:03:45 [Message] donphelps: We have a 125 on the pw trailer for roofs and the commercial roof trailer has 2 325's and a 225 in it. 2006-11-08 21:03:50 [Message] pressureprosinc: its slow and I hate them 2006-11-08 21:04:02 [Message] speck_chaser: slow? and you do decks? 2006-11-08 21:04:15 [Message] speck_chaser: irony meter goes through the roof... 2006-11-08 21:04:21 [Message] speck_chaser: :D 2006-11-08 21:04:27 [Message] pressureprosinc: My tank is the opaque kind.. it gets loaded with that days job suuply only 2006-11-08 21:04:27 [Message] donphelps: lol 2006-11-08 21:04:33 [Message] FCPWLLC: Don, coming to ACR round? 2006-11-08 21:04:46 [Message] squirtgun: brb 2006-11-08 21:04:55 [Message] speck_chaser: beer run? 2006-11-08 21:05:02 [Message] donphelps: I wanted to, but it's not looking good.....Beth and I were talking about that earlier. 2006-11-08 21:05:03 [Message] pressureprosinc: Chad, roofs, slowwwwww... Decks I'll wipe your behind up and hand you back the towel 2006-11-08 21:05:20 [Message] donphelps: It's Thad 2006-11-08 21:05:24 [Login] russjohnson 2006-11-08 21:05:24 [iP] russjohnson: 74.130.68.184 2006-11-08 21:05:24 [Join Room] russjohnson: 2006-11-08 21:05:28 [Login] DAVIDv 2006-11-08 21:05:28 [iP] DAVIDv: 71.79.132.172 2006-11-08 21:05:28 [Join Room] DAVIDv: 2006-11-08 21:05:33 [Message] donphelps: Hey Russ 2006-11-08 21:05:35 [Message] pressureprosinc: Chad, my bad 2006-11-08 21:05:42 [Message] speck_chaser: funny 2006-11-08 21:05:46 [Message] donphelps: Welcome back David 2006-11-08 21:05:50 [Message] speck_chaser: Chen 2006-11-08 21:05:51 [Message] FCPWLLC: F*** decks.... I'd rather send 'em to RAD and forget it. 2006-11-08 21:06:00 [Message] pressureprosinc: you and me both, Mike 2006-11-08 21:06:00 [Message] speck_chaser: yep 2006-11-08 21:06:11 [Message] pressureprosinc: Hey Russ 2006-11-08 21:06:11 [Message] DAVIDv: thanks...lost connection...had to power down 2006-11-08 21:06:19 [Message] donphelps: bummer 2006-11-08 21:06:19 [Message] russjohnson: HI. How's it going? I just popped in to make sure I could work this...lol 2006-11-08 21:06:22 [Message] speck_chaser: how many trips does it take you to do a roof, ken? 2006-11-08 21:06:39 [Message] pressureprosinc: You mean as in do some and leave? 2006-11-08 21:06:44 [Message] donphelps: You got it.....I'm going to try to attend your chat next week too. 2006-11-08 21:06:55 [Message] russjohnson: cool... 2006-11-08 21:06:57 [Message] FCPWLLC: someone go tell 25 friends that Don's giving away a JB 2006-11-08 21:07:12 [Message] pressureprosinc: I add them onto housewashes .. when i say slow I mean it might take 4-5 hours for a decent sized one 2006-11-08 21:07:15 [Message] donphelps: lol....too late now, maybe next time 2006-11-08 21:07:24 [Message] speck_chaser: i mean if it takes you longer to do a roof than to do a deck you must be using a squirt bottle 2006-11-08 21:07:37 [Message] squirtgun: Yeah,he going to give it to me for a birthday present.......................................................NOT 2006-11-08 21:07:44 [Message] FCPWLLC: or Hydroxide 2006-11-08 21:07:59 [Message] speck_chaser: yeah, maybe that's it 2006-11-08 21:08:04 [Message] FCPWLLC: lol 2006-11-08 21:08:06 [Message] speck_chaser: NaOH 2006-11-08 21:08:18 [Message] speck_chaser: with a paintbrush 2006-11-08 21:08:26 [Message] squirtgun: toothnrush 2006-11-08 21:08:29 [Message] donphelps: Actually I'm planning to give you one of my SF's on the way through Mayberry, Scott. 2006-11-08 21:08:31 [Message] FCPWLLC: Roller 2006-11-08 21:08:35 [Message] pressureprosinc: Chad, you know what it is.. If I am up there, I am hating every minute of it so to me it sems way too long.. when I hear about guys banging out roofs in 1 hour I figure I am doing something wrong 2006-11-08 21:08:42 [Message] squirtgun: LOL 2006-11-08 21:08:50 [Message] donphelps: I am! 2006-11-08 21:08:51 [Message] speck_chaser: it's still Thad, Chen 2006-11-08 21:08:59 [Message] FCPWLLC: lol 2006-11-08 21:09:01 [Message] squirtgun: hey it's small town nowhere,but I call it home 2006-11-08 21:09:03 [Message] FCPWLLC: Chad 2006-11-08 21:09:18 [Message] speck_chaser: what? 2006-11-08 21:09:18 [Message] pressureprosinc: I better stick with Speck. this is the late hour of brain dead 2006-11-08 21:09:33 [Message] donphelps: Let's make a 'man law' and change his name to Chad 2006-11-08 21:09:36 [Message] FCPWLLC: Ken, you get those domains? 2006-11-08 21:09:36 [Message] speck_chaser: Oh, man. now i'm answering to it 2006-11-08 21:09:40 [Message] squirtgun: Man Law 2006-11-08 21:10:02 [Message] donphelps: anybody else? 2006-11-08 21:10:03 [Message] pressureprosinc: yes Mike, I did. thank you for the registrtion heads up 2006-11-08 21:10:04 [Message] speck_chaser: it's better than %^&head which is my usual nickname 2006-11-08 21:10:12 [Message] squirtgun: lol 2006-11-08 21:10:27 [Message] pressureprosinc: Mine too, Thad/Chad.. I do apologize bro... I am beat 2006-11-08 21:10:35 [Message] FCPWLLC: I picked up roofcleanersofamerica.com that night 2006-11-08 21:10:36 [Message] speck_chaser: so, UV resistant tanks for everyone? 2006-11-08 21:10:39 [Message] squirtgun: I hear that a lot too CHAD 2006-11-08 21:10:52 [Message] speck_chaser: no problemo, Chott. 2006-11-08 21:11:08 [Message] pressureprosinc: People are gonna be real sorry this missed this chat LOL 2006-11-08 21:11:12 [Message] donphelps: Next person to email me at allseasonsexteriors@gmail.com with "I Clean Roofs" wins a PVC Roof Wand! 2006-11-08 21:11:13 [Message] pressureprosinc: they* 2006-11-08 21:11:15 [Message] squirtgun: SHREK is the nickname 2006-11-08 21:11:28 [Message] donphelps: no previous winners please! 2006-11-08 21:11:51 [Message] speck_chaser: rofl 2006-11-08 21:12:06 [Message] speck_chaser: just let me know if i'm first 2006-11-08 21:12:06 [Message] squirtgun: or the name the wife calls me..............Satan 2006-11-08 21:12:18 [Message] donphelps: SquirtGun wins the wand....Congrats Scotty! 2006-11-08 21:12:50 [Message] FCPWLLC: wow , I even had mine on standby 2006-11-08 21:12:55 [Message] squirtgun: Thank You,Thank You...I would like to thank the roof cleaning academy and my friend Don 2006-11-08 21:12:57 [Message] speck_chaser: i demand a replay 2006-11-08 21:13:02 [Message] donphelps: apparently so did he...lol 2006-11-08 21:13:09 [Message] DAVIDv: My wife calls me Honey I need 2006-11-08 21:13:16 [Message] pressureprosinc: Boooo, throwing egs at Quick Draw McScott 2006-11-08 21:13:17 [Message] FCPWLLC: with a T1 connection 2006-11-08 21:13:22 [Message] FCPWLLC: lol 2006-11-08 21:13:25 [Message] squirtgun: Your wife must not work with you David 2006-11-08 21:13:28 [Message] donphelps: My wife doesn't call me....lol 2006-11-08 21:13:39 [Message] DAVIDv: no 2006-11-08 21:13:48 [Message] speck_chaser: Apparently my name is, "Oh, you're back..." 2006-11-08 21:13:55 [Message] DAVIDv: lol 2006-11-08 21:13:56 [Message] donphelps: actually, I have a great wife.....She's just usually very busy. 2006-11-08 21:13:59 [Message] squirtgun: Ah,see if she worked with you it would be different 2006-11-08 21:14:21 [Message] FCPWLLC: Tsp or no tsp? 2006-11-08 21:14:23 [Message] squirtgun: Yeah,she is great Don...we like her 2006-11-08 21:14:33 [Message] squirtgun: never tried it Mike 2006-11-08 21:14:44 [Message] speck_chaser: my wife went with me once, declared me a 'meany' and we don't have that delimna anymore 2006-11-08 21:14:51 [Message] donphelps: Mine has worked with me a few times, but she's tire of me shooting her in the face with SH from the roof. 2006-11-08 21:15:09 [Message] FCPWLLC: I've been tossing in some Simple cherry on steep roofs 2006-11-08 21:15:10 [Message] speck_chaser: good times, you must still be honeymoonin' 2006-11-08 21:15:23 [Message] donphelps: I don't use it, but it's a personal preference thing and I can see why some would. 2006-11-08 21:15:27 [Message] speck_chaser: Simple Cherry really kills the chlorine smell 2006-11-08 21:15:39 [Message] squirtgun: or making her clean the Chik-fil-a while you talk to me on the phone..........lol 2006-11-08 21:15:59 [Message] DAVIDv: lol 2006-11-08 21:16:10 [Message] donphelps: She helped clean CF when I broke my hand last year....She's a trooper. 2006-11-08 21:16:41 [Message] squirtgun: Ih ad mine up a a roof,but that lasted all of 2 minutes 2006-11-08 21:16:50 [Message] squirtgun: she would rather pull hoses and mix chems 2006-11-08 21:16:51 [Message] donphelps: I think Russ got put to sleep with the roof stuff....lol 2006-11-08 21:17:16 [Message] speck_chaser: honestly, i wouldn't want my wife to come to work with me- she would freak if she saw what I do 2006-11-08 21:17:17 [Message] DAVIDv: She just had neck surgery 3 weeks ago...No I didn't cause it 2006-11-08 21:17:41 [Message] squirtgun: hey mine is an equal partner so eqaul work 2006-11-08 21:17:47 [Message] squirtgun: I love womens lib 2006-11-08 21:17:50 [Message] DAVIDv: there you go 2006-11-08 21:18:26 [Message] squirtgun: besides she isn't hard on the eyes either 2006-11-08 21:18:27 [Message] DAVIDv: I would like her to go a couple times 2006-11-08 21:18:32 [Message] russjohnson: just sittin' here soaking it all in...what roof stuff, anyway...I've seen names change and wives recruited...but... 2006-11-08 21:18:33 [Message] speck_chaser: Russ is snoring. Let's put his hand in warm water! 2006-11-08 21:19:01 [Message] donphelps: I'll take Julie to the larger apartment jobs we do, usually a few weeks later just to show her where and how it turned out and she trips at what we walk and how high some of them are. 2006-11-08 21:19:07 [Message] russjohnson: caught ya speck... 2006-11-08 21:19:10 [Message] squirtgun: put Nair in his hand and tickle his ear 2006-11-08 21:19:34 [Message] DAVIDv: that's not right 2006-11-08 21:19:38 [Message] DAVIDv: lol 2006-11-08 21:19:50 [Message] russjohnson: I don't have much hair anyway... 2006-11-08 21:20:12 [Message] squirtgun: I could hear the brass knocking together all the way up here on this last one Don 2006-11-08 21:20:13 [Message] donphelps: How did you guys clean your first roof ever? I used a pump up......After that, life changed fast. 2006-11-08 21:20:13 [Message] speck_chaser: somebody get a magic marker 2006-11-08 21:20:23 [Message] donphelps: That was quite a while back though. 2006-11-08 21:20:26 [Message] speck_chaser: pump up 2006-11-08 21:20:32 [Message] speck_chaser: never again! 2006-11-08 21:20:38 [Message] FCPWLLC: Shurflo and Phelps wand. 2006-11-08 21:20:44 [Message] speck_chaser: suckup 2006-11-08 21:20:48 [Message] speck_chaser: :D 2006-11-08 21:20:51 [Message] FCPWLLC: lol 2006-11-08 21:20:52 [Message] squirtgun: Pump-up,xjetting sodium hydrox now ,xjetting the love 2006-11-08 21:21:06 [Message] donphelps: be careful.....those labels get me attacked, lol. 2006-11-08 21:21:14 [Message] speck_chaser: for an excercise in futility, try downstreaming a roof 2006-11-08 21:21:43 [Message] squirtgun: you never know until you try Thad 2006-11-08 21:21:51 [Message] speck_chaser: oh, we tried. 2006-11-08 21:22:08 [Message] speck_chaser: it wasn't my idea, and mannnnnnnnn did it suck 2006-11-08 21:22:29 [Message] speck_chaser: right after that i started searching and found TGS 2006-11-08 21:22:31 [Message] donphelps: I tried using a roller pump shortly after that and it worked for a while, but they fail too often for my taste. 2006-11-08 21:22:35 [Message] FCPWLLC: I shot a roof that was scheduled for replacement just for fun with down-streamer.... It actually cleaned the roof but very slowly 2006-11-08 21:22:36 [Message] speck_chaser: :) 2006-11-08 21:23:13 [Message] DAVIDv: shurflo and phelps wand 2006-11-08 21:23:16 [Message] speck_chaser: yankee roof mold must be easier 2006-11-08 21:23:35 [Message] squirtgun: What about the rollers with the nylon bearings 2006-11-08 21:23:37 [Message] donphelps: I feel like I've tried most ways at some point, but the JB's are doing everything we need them to. 2006-11-08 21:23:42 [Message] FCPWLLC: <---- good down stream methods 2006-11-08 21:24:03 [Message] russjohnson: Don, did you happen to get your Pressure Pro catalog yet? 2006-11-08 21:24:10 [Message] donphelps: Hey David, where did Barry go? He doesn't show up much these days. 2006-11-08 21:24:21 [Message] donphelps: No, not yet....did you? 2006-11-08 21:24:39 [Message] DAVIDv: I don't know...I called him mon. left msg 2006-11-08 21:24:56 [Message] DAVIDv: Hasn't called back 2006-11-08 21:24:59 [Message] donphelps: wow, wonder what's up? 2006-11-08 21:25:03 [Message] speck_chaser: is barry work2fish? 2006-11-08 21:25:10 [Message] donphelps: no, barry m 2006-11-08 21:25:13 [Message] DAVIDv: no BARRY M 2006-11-08 21:25:15 [Message] squirtgun: nope 2006-11-08 21:25:35 [Message] russjohnson: Yeah, they've got a gear reduction Comet diaphragm pump in this one for a list of $888...they say it's suitable for chlorine...just wanted your thoughts... 2006-11-08 21:25:45 [Message] donphelps: work2fish is Chris Cole from ORL. 2006-11-08 21:25:57 [Message] speck_chaser: ok, i wasn't even close 2006-11-08 21:26:08 [Message] squirtgun: how is Chris doing Don? 2006-11-08 21:26:17 [Message] donphelps: I saw one in Ryan's shop....It looks OK, but I'm not sold on it yet. 2006-11-08 21:26:20 [Message] FCPWLLC: I saw that same pump on ultimatewasher 2006-11-08 21:26:32 [Message] DAVIDv: He's not listed here anymore 2006-11-08 21:26:58 [Message] donphelps: I'm might try one on the next commercial job just to see how it goes. 2006-11-08 21:27:05 [Message] pressureprosinc: Hey guys.. sorry about the lurking.. phone.. I'm gonna head out. Don and everybody thank you for some great information... Night. 2006-11-08 21:27:08 [Message] speck_chaser: yeah, that's the one i was asking about earlier 2006-11-08 21:27:19 [Message] squirtgun: later ken 2006-11-08 21:27:20 [Message] russjohnson: How does the price compare to JB" 2006-11-08 21:27:20 [Message] speck_chaser: later, Chen. 2006-11-08 21:27:22 [Message] donphelps: Chris is good, Scott.....Saw him the other day. 2006-11-08 21:27:23 [Message] FCPWLLC: c ya ken at ACR 2006-11-08 21:27:25 [Message] speck_chaser: ;)\ 2006-11-08 21:27:27 [Message] DAVIDv: later 2006-11-08 21:27:42 [Message] pressureprosinc: yuo got it.. don't work too hard.. especially yuo, Chad ;) 2006-11-08 21:27:46 [Disconnect] pressureprosinc 2006-11-08 21:28:34 [Message] donphelps: It's about $3-400 cheaper than a JB. They're expensive but hard to beat. Mel has one that he can't break and all of mine are still rockin' right along. 2006-11-08 21:28:56 [Message] squirtgun: Mel doens't rinse his does he? 2006-11-08 21:29:18 [Message] donphelps: He didn't last year, don't know now. 2006-11-08 21:29:23 [Message] speck_chaser: $888 is a lot cheaper than ultimatewasher 2006-11-08 21:29:38 [Message] speck_chaser: they're 1145 or 1290 2006-11-08 21:29:39 [Message] squirtgun: that speaks for what JB has put together 2006-11-08 21:29:56 [Message] FCPWLLC: Don, you ues the pump to rinse roof also? 2006-11-08 21:30:18 [Message] donphelps: Ours run all day long then we rinse them each evening and start all over again e next day. It's hard to find pumps that can exist in a chlorine environment like that. 2006-11-08 21:30:23 [Message] DAVIDv: What the price psf on shingle roofs 2006-11-08 21:30:42 [Message] DAVIDv: avg 2006-11-08 21:30:56 [Message] donphelps: Sometimes we do....It's a good way to flush it and rinse at the same time. 2006-11-08 21:31:13 [Message] FCPWLLC: I'm gettin' 15 cens 2006-11-08 21:31:35 [Message] squirtgun: about the same here Mike 2006-11-08 21:31:47 [Message] speck_chaser: do you figure actul roof s.f. or use the house s.f.? 2006-11-08 21:31:51 [Message] donphelps: Residental always gets rinsed......Commercial depends on the situation. Shingle would be rinsed/Tile maybe, maybe not. 2006-11-08 21:31:53 [Message] FCPWLLC: hose 2006-11-08 21:31:58 [Message] FCPWLLC: house 2006-11-08 21:32:17 [Message] squirtgun: house plus a percentage 2006-11-08 21:32:33 [Message] DAVIDv: house plus pct 2006-11-08 21:32:36 [Message] squirtgun: depends on landscaping 2006-11-08 21:32:54 [Message] speck_chaser: steep roof=more s.f. 2006-11-08 21:33:13 [Message] donphelps: northern tool has some 8x32 tarps that are great for roof cleaning. less tarps will save time. 2006-11-08 21:33:34 [Message] speck_chaser: do you add a surcharge for a really steep roof or do you pass? 2006-11-08 21:33:41 [Message] speck_chaser: or charge the same 2006-11-08 21:33:45 [Message] FCPWLLC: We haven't been doing roofs long, so I don't know yet how high I can go. I'll raise prices until I start losing bids. 2006-11-08 21:34:14 [Message] squirtgun: 12/12 get a hefty upcharge,lots of ladder work and moving involved 2006-11-08 21:34:15 [Message] speck_chaser: is anyone bidding against you or are you just bidding against what it's worth to the customer? 2006-11-08 21:34:50 [Message] donphelps: max it out then stick to your guns.....you're in an area where you should be able to maximize price and not have to worry about too much roof competition. 2006-11-08 21:34:56 [Message] squirtgun: no one else biddingin my case 2006-11-08 21:35:08 [Message] DAVIDv: most people here have never heard of it 2006-11-08 21:35:21 [Message] FCPWLLC: So far, I haven't seen much competition. Itry to get top dollar for anything I do. <----- Not scared to lose bids 2006-11-08 21:35:24 [Message] speck_chaser: so you're just battling the customer's idea of what it's worth 2006-11-08 21:35:27 [Message] donphelps: about 200 hundred bidding in my case....lol 2006-11-08 21:35:36 [Message] speck_chaser: right, don. 2006-11-08 21:35:45 [Message] speck_chaser: completely different scenario 2006-11-08 21:35:58 [Message] squirtgun: I have raised my roof prices every couple of months and still haven't found the top,but I do find a place I feel is a good stopping point for the roof 2006-11-08 21:36:01 [Message] donphelps: it's not really all that bad here, but they are thick at times. 2006-11-08 21:36:19 [Message] FCPWLLC: I am selling based on comparasions of getting a new roof 2006-11-08 21:36:31 [Message] speck_chaser: at least people have heard of roof cleaning and know they need it. 2006-11-08 21:36:37 [Message] speck_chaser: in FL 2006-11-08 21:36:54 [Message] donphelps: The larger commercial jobs are nice because it elements most of the comp.....They don't have the equipment or experience to bid it usually. 2006-11-08 21:37:17 [Message] donphelps: lol...eliminates! 2006-11-08 21:37:22 [Message] squirtgun: Mike your customer must have all their teeth and you don't have to track them down at the whiskey still to bid 2006-11-08 21:37:31 [Message] squirtgun: lol 2006-11-08 21:37:35 [Message] FCPWLLC: yes 2006-11-08 21:37:40 [Message] FCPWLLC: lol 2006-11-08 21:37:41 [Message] speck_chaser: "I am selling based on comparasions of getting a new roof" and you don't cram it to them? 2006-11-08 21:37:56 [Message] FCPWLLC: I market to the people that can afford me 2006-11-08 21:38:15 [Message] speck_chaser: well, duh! :D 2006-11-08 21:38:20 [Message] donphelps: Thad, you talk a lot of trash for someone that doesn't really clean roofs yet.....lol 2006-11-08 21:38:22 [Message] squirtgun: new roof on a 2000 sq ft house here $12K roof ceaning $250ish 2006-11-08 21:38:26 [Message] speck_chaser: hahahah 2006-11-08 21:38:29 [Message] russjohnson: Heck, Scott...we're in Kentucky...just depends on whose turn it is for the teeth... 2006-11-08 21:38:32 [Message] speck_chaser: i've cleaned a few 2006-11-08 21:38:37 [Message] speck_chaser: the hard ways 2006-11-08 21:38:42 [Message] squirtgun: lol 2006-11-08 21:38:42 [Message] DAVIDv: I'm bidding at 20 cents 2006-11-08 21:39:00 [Message] FCPWLLC: I got $375 for a 200 sqft last week... 45 minutes 2006-11-08 21:39:01 [Message] DAVIDv: I use the new roof price also 2006-11-08 21:39:06 [Message] donphelps: sliding down them on your butt doesn't count toward 'cleaning' them...lol 2006-11-08 21:39:14 [Message] speck_chaser: "Thad, you talk a lot of trash for someone that doesn't really clean roofs yet.....lol" I'm not taking trash, I"m learning! 2006-11-08 21:39:30 [Message] FCPWLLC: 2000 2006-11-08 21:39:42 [Message] donphelps: Are you taking notes? 2006-11-08 21:39:55 [Message] FCPWLLC: transcript notes 2006-11-08 21:40:02 [Message] FCPWLLC: for Thad 2006-11-08 21:40:05 [Message] donphelps: As Van Wilder would say...."Right that down!" 2006-11-08 21:40:08 [Message] speck_chaser: I'm asking probing questions to benefit from those who have learned from a guru 2006-11-08 21:40:16 [Message] speck_chaser: oops 2006-11-08 21:40:17 [Message] squirtgun: cliff's notes would be better for him 2006-11-08 21:40:26 [Message] speck_chaser: draw me a pitcher! 2006-11-08 21:40:36 [Message] FCPWLLC: who's cliff? lol 2006-11-08 21:40:43 [Message] squirtgun: does he throw left handed or right? 2006-11-08 21:40:47 [Message] speck_chaser: the guy who did the notes 2006-11-08 21:41:20 [Message] donphelps: "Guru" and "Phelps Wand" always causes a stir.....I just laugh it all off. I've never said any of that......ANYWHERE! 2006-11-08 21:41:49 [Message] speck_chaser: you forgot 'sweetheart deal'. 2006-11-08 21:41:56 [Message] speck_chaser: i'm leaving it alone now 2006-11-08 21:42:00 [Message] squirtgun: NO you haven't Don,It's a shame that you get bashed for something I tagged you with 2006-11-08 21:42:05 [Message] speck_chaser: thanks for the free wand, guru 2006-11-08 21:42:26 [Message] russjohnson: lol 2006-11-08 21:42:34 [Message] speck_chaser: i didn't know it was your fault, scott! 2006-11-08 21:42:38 [Message] donphelps: I'm abundantly aware that I can fall of a roof on any gien day and that in itself helps keep me grounded....no pun intended. 2006-11-08 21:42:50 [Message] FCPWLLC: lol 2006-11-08 21:42:52 [Message] speck_chaser: i thought you could levitate 2006-11-08 21:43:19 [Message] squirtgun: that isn;t the first time I have herad Don say that 2006-11-08 21:43:20 [Message] speck_chaser: after all, you are a gu...<lightning strikes> 2006-11-08 21:43:21 [Message] donphelps: That's true, Squirt branded me with the title a few years back. 2006-11-08 21:43:37 [Message] squirtgun: I'm good that way 2006-11-08 21:43:48 [Message] speck_chaser: well, thanks a lot, scott! 2006-11-08 21:44:05 [Message] squirtgun: who knew it would cause such a stir 2006-11-08 21:44:06 [Message] speck_chaser: i'm trying to remember any other ???s I had 2006-11-08 21:44:16 [Message] FCPWLLC: Guys, my wife is giving good signals so I gotta get while the gettin's good. I'll see ya'll arond. 2006-11-08 21:44:27 [Message] donphelps: moving along now.....anyone else need a PVC wand? 2006-11-08 21:44:31 [Message] speck_chaser: lol 2006-11-08 21:44:51 [Message] donphelps: Glad you stopped in, Michael! 2006-11-08 21:44:56 [Message] speck_chaser: go, michael! 2006-11-08 21:45:09 [Message] squirtgun: get-r-done Mike 2006-11-08 21:45:12 [Message] DAVIDv: It's just easier to say PHELPS wand, then PHELPS the GURU wand 2006-11-08 21:45:17 [Message] speck_chaser: all this guru talk get's 'em going 2006-11-08 21:45:27 [Disconnect] FCPWLLC 2006-11-08 21:45:55 [Message] donphelps: lol...there are no guru's in this business that I know of.....Some just have more experience than others. 2006-11-08 21:46:02 [Message] speck_chaser: i don't think don would mind if you called it a pvc wand. 2006-11-08 21:46:03 [Message] squirtgun: Don has helped alot of people at no financial gain 2006-11-08 21:46:27 [Message] speck_chaser: it'll all be fine in the end 2006-11-08 21:47:41 [Message] speck_chaser: so, back to my cargo van for a roof rig... 2006-11-08 21:47:48 [Message] speck_chaser: am i nuts? 2006-11-08 21:48:02 [Message] speck_chaser: it should be OK in the winter, huh? 2006-11-08 21:48:06 [Message] squirtgun: well...Yes,but i think the van would work 2006-11-08 21:48:28 [Message] donphelps: last one......email me at allseasonsexteriors@gmail.com with "last wand" in the header to win a free PVC wand. 2006-11-08 21:48:43 [Message] speck_chaser: i'm not going to do it this time 2006-11-08 21:48:44 [Message] squirtgun: hurry Thad 2006-11-08 21:48:48 [Message] DAVIDv: what about metal roofs 2006-11-08 21:48:55 [Message] donphelps: no one is left.....lol 2006-11-08 21:48:58 [Message] squirtgun: we all have one now 2006-11-08 21:49:03 [Message] squirtgun: lol 2006-11-08 21:49:07 [Message] speck_chaser: russ needs one 2006-11-08 21:49:14 [Message] speck_chaser: wake him up 2006-11-08 21:49:25 [Message] donphelps: I know, now someone will be stocked with 2......Go for it! 2006-11-08 21:49:27 [Message] speck_chaser: where's the silly string 2006-11-08 21:49:54 [Message] russjohnson: Why do I need one...I ain't gettin' on a roof...not unless there's a vent stack to install. 2006-11-08 21:50:11 [Message] donphelps: Squirt scores again! 2006-11-08 21:50:26 [Message] speck_chaser: sweetheart deal! 2006-11-08 21:50:32 [Message] squirtgun: cool now we will have his and her 2006-11-08 21:50:36 [Message] russjohnson: double barreled squirt...lol 2006-11-08 21:50:58 [Message] speck_chaser: metal roofs. anyone? 2006-11-08 21:51:07 [Message] squirtgun: they suck 2006-11-08 21:51:12 [Message] speck_chaser: wouldn't house wash work on them? 2006-11-08 21:51:12 [Message] donphelps: 4 wands.....time to go clean some more roofs before the truck gets repo'ed, lol 2006-11-08 21:51:22 [Message] squirtgun: we have done a few Thad 2006-11-08 21:51:32 [Message] DAVIDv: alot of colored metal roofs going up in the country 2006-11-08 21:51:37 [Message] squirtgun: soap more than SH or you'll rust the screws out 2006-11-08 21:51:40 [Message] speck_chaser: mildewed? 2006-11-08 21:51:46 [Message] DAVIDv: yes 2006-11-08 21:52:04 [Message] speck_chaser: yeah, scott- i was thinking that housewash would do it 2006-11-08 21:52:05 [Message] donphelps: I've never cleaned a metal roof, but a lower concentration of SH should to the trick. Needs to probably be fairly weak though. 2006-11-08 21:52:23 [Message] speck_chaser: it's not like it's grown into the roof material 2006-11-08 21:52:30 [Message] donphelps: lol...That's "do the trick" 2006-11-08 21:52:32 [Message] DAVIDv: right 2006-11-08 21:52:40 [Message] squirtgun: and they are slick 2006-11-08 21:53:03 [Message] speck_chaser: i ain't walking one of those with soap and love 2006-11-08 21:53:14 [Message] DAVIDv: so 50/50 sh and soap 2006-11-08 21:53:15 [Message] speck_chaser: i've slipped on a few dry ones 2006-11-08 21:53:17 [Message] squirtgun: it's like ice skating,try it 2006-11-08 21:53:20 [Message] donphelps: I was on one the other day, showing Chris (work2fish) how to do some paint prep on a gable. 2006-11-08 21:53:28 [Message] donphelps: in the rain 2006-11-08 21:53:33 [Message] speck_chaser: nice 2006-11-08 21:53:39 [Message] speck_chaser: bruise or scar? 2006-11-08 21:53:47 [Message] speck_chaser: i've got both 2006-11-08 21:54:02 [Message] speck_chaser: wet metal roof=ouch 2006-11-08 21:54:16 [Message] donphelps: lol....went where I had to go and did what I needed to do and my work was done there. 2006-11-08 21:54:41 [Message] speck_chaser: leave those for the young fellers 2006-11-08 21:54:50 [Message] speck_chaser: they don't know any better 2006-11-08 21:54:54 [Message] squirtgun: lol 2006-11-08 21:54:57 [Message] donphelps: 3 stories up on tile is always fun too. 2006-11-08 21:55:04 [Message] speck_chaser: you can have it 2006-11-08 21:55:06 [Message] donphelps: fall gear!!! 2006-11-08 21:55:11 [Message] speck_chaser: not interested! 2006-11-08 21:55:37 [Message] speck_chaser: :) 2006-11-08 21:55:56 [Message] donphelps: The red tile apartment pics from April were 3 story and the ends were very steep. 2006-11-08 21:56:13 [Message] speck_chaser: even if you only fall 'down' and not 'off' it still could do some serious damage 2006-11-08 21:56:20 [Message] squirtgun: well guys,I'm out.Don great chat,thanks for the PVC wands.Hope to see you on the way to KY 2006-11-08 21:56:46 [Message] donphelps: Thanks Scott, I'll drop them off on the way through town. 2006-11-08 21:56:47 [Message] speck_chaser: later Scott. 2006-11-08 21:56:53 [Message] speck_chaser: i'm out, too 2006-11-08 21:56:57 [Message] DAVIDv: c-ya scott 2006-11-08 21:57:00 [Message] squirtgun: sounds like a plan 2006-11-08 21:57:05 [Message] squirtgun: Nite guys 2006-11-08 21:57:11 [Disconnect] squirtgun 2006-11-08 21:57:13 [Message] speck_chaser: you coming through LA on your way to KY, Don? 2006-11-08 21:57:27 [Message] donphelps: heck no! lol 2006-11-08 21:57:44 [Message] speck_chaser: you don't have to say it like that 2006-11-08 21:57:48 [Message] speck_chaser: :D 2006-11-08 21:57:56 [Message] speck_chaser: i'll pm you my address 2006-11-08 21:58:37 [Message] donphelps: Let's wrap it up then, guys......I want to thnk everyone for coming out and supporting the chat. Don't forget to do the same for Russ next week too! 2006-11-08 21:58:44 [Message] DAVIDv: Don thanks alot...I'll call you on dates for labor 4 learning 2006-11-08 21:58:49 [Message] donphelps: OK, Thad....sounds good 2006-11-08 21:58:50 [Message] speck_chaser: Goodnight all! 2006-11-08 21:59:01 [Message] donphelps: OK David, Thanks! 2006-11-08 21:59:08 [Message] DAVIDv: goodnight all 2006-11-08 21:59:22 [Disconnect] speck_chaser 2006-11-08 21:59:27 [Message] donphelps: Good night guys....Be safe on the roofs!!! 2006-11-08 21:59:28 [Message] russjohnson: I'm cruisin' on myself...got some photo work to do before bed...take care and come back next week... 2006-11-08 21:59:47 [Message] donphelps: 'nite to all! 2006-11-08 21:59:50 [Disconnect] DAVIDv 2006-11-08 21:59:59 [Disconnect] russjohnson 2006-11-08 22:00:04 [Disconnect] donphelps 2006-11-08 22:03:08 [Disconnect] bethnrod

Yes, we're interested. I'll call you. Beth

I'll try to get the issue resolved before next week's chat. Thanks for letting me know. Beth

We will enjoy having the puppies visit us on the way to the round table. Kind of like being grandparents - they don't stay forever, but we get to play with them for a day! Our two cats would hate us if we took one in, and they are spoiled rotten. We live to serve them. Beth

Welcome Scott! :) Beth

It is so nice to see folks helping each other out! Beth :groovy3:

I'm pretty sure I heard Celeste mention that one winter time.... Celeste? Beth

Of the 2 popular pumps on the market, which do you rely on the most and what are its specs. GPM= PSI= Valves= (viton, epdm, buna etc.) Diaphram= (santoprene,viton,epdm etc.) Bypass valve or no Bypass valve. 12v or 115v, amps= If you could also include a short note why the specs are important to the work you use it for. Rod~

Written by Ron P. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- When it come to ratios, it makes no diffrence if your talking about 1 oz. or 100000000 lbs. because the ratio stays the same. Example: 1 oz of chem to 5 oz of water is 1 to 5 or, 5 oz chem to 1oz of water is 5 to 1 Now this is the tricky part that a lot of people get messed up on. Don't confuse weight and volume. There is a big difference. When you buy a powdered chem and it tells you to mix 8 oz of chem to 1 gal of water, some people would use a measuring cup and a 5 gal bucket. This would be WRONG. WHY??? Well... Water is measured by volume (in this case), dry chem is measured by weight. They're two diffrent things. What weighs more, one lb. of feather's or one lb. of gold? Both weigh the same but the feather's will take up more volume. Many guys who use powdered chems don't have a scale. Then they wonder why other people love a chem that they can't get to work very well. A good example of problems stemming from a mis-informed pressure washer would be when they use a X-JET. Everyone tells the next guy how they mix their chemicals and how they work. Well, guy A is telling guy B to mix 1 gal of chem to 4 gal of water and use his x-jet to apply. Well guy A has a 3 gal per min wash unit and guy B has a 5 gal per min unit. They will have diffrent DRAW RATES AND WON'T WORK THE SAME WAY. Guy B will need to almost double the amount of chemicals. He is shooting almost twice the amount of water in the same minute. Next are the guys who only use water to keep their deck cleaners/strippers wet. This just deluites the cleaner. You must keep it wet with MORE CHEMICAL. RATIO "a way of concisely showing the realationship between two quantities of something". Here's another example of a ratio. Say your downstreamer has a draw rate of 20 %. Let's also say you have a 5 gal per min pump. In one min you pumped 5 gal of water and added 20% chem. Twenty percent (20%) of 5 gal per min would be 1 gallon, so you had a 5 to 1 ratio. The pump pumped 5 gal and drew in 1 gal so a total of 6 gal shot out the tip in one min. 5 to 1 makes 6 total. Most people dont understand how you can get 6 gal per min from a 5 gal per min pump but it will.[draw rate] Now have I helped you or just messed you all up?

I need to get some pics up this week.... Beth

This is coming up soon folks! Beth

Mark your calendars....get ready to chat! Beth

You're welcome!!! I seem to be on an event roll today. The Entrepreneur Expo looks cool too! Beth

Are you trying to get me in trouble? ;) Beth

http://www.entrepreneurexpo.org/site/default.asp?page=1 Thursday & Friday March 15 & 16, 2007 Fort Worth Convention Center The Cleaning Zone is a special part of The Expo designed to assist entrepreneurs in the cleaning services industry wanting to fine-tune their currently operating business. For those considering going into the cleaning services business, the Cleaning Zone offers information and lots of support. For 2007, the United Association of Mobile Contract Cleaners (*****) joins Ministry of Property Services, LLC (M.O.P.S.) as a Cleaning Zone sponsor and is offering several ***** Certification classes in conjunction with The Expo. Free seminars are also being offered on a variety of timely topics important to cleaning services. The Cleaning Zone will also have an exhibit area in the Exhibit Hall.

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