Beth n Rod

Cedar is a problematic wood especially when used for decking. Rails perform well but the floors always give everyone the most trouble. Plan on annual maintenance once you have found a service provider or product you choose to use as a diy'er. Rod!~

Summer is a good time to take in a movie. Everyone loves a good blockbuster. Has anyone seen a good movie they would recommend? Beth

By the way George....welcome to TGS! It's good having you here! Beth :cup:

Most folks end up buying a blast pot. But I do know that Tom Vogel of ACR Products has one, we rented a cob pot from him in June. Tell Tom Beth sent you. He's the closest I know of for rent. Beth

We have cleaned condo breezeways before and always used water for it. Occasionally you will get a leak. Most property managers are already aware of where leak issues are, and can tell you ahead of time if you ask them. If you use sand or soda in the breezeway you are left with all of that media to clean up. It doesn't run off, it just sort of sits there. Beth :cup:

Might just have to go to that one....never been there and it has to be warmer than DC! Beth

I grew up with Dobermans. :) My parents raised them for show as a hobbie. Beth

I'm sure some of you have experience with this....let's kick this forum off in true TGS style! Just keep posting.... ;) Beth

These issues and more have been discussed at length and unless the local governments do as you have mentioned it is nothing more than us policing them. We are active in our state reporting illegal pw'ing (I won't even give them the courtesy of calling them a business) and it is to no avail. They are still out there doing what they do best...screw things up so much that the customer HAS to call a competent contractor. We educate our customers on the issues you have brought forth including literature informing them that in essence by hiring these illegitimates they are helping them to operate "Illegally!" That has taken a few by the short hairs and gotten clients to think twice about price over legitimacy. Insurance and the other requirements are for their protection as well and we let them know it along with the clarification that we all are not doing 'it' the same. There is a science to what we do and the experience is more than a number of years in business. I agree that more needs to be done and being complacent doesn't make them go away. It is a major responsibility to be in business but it is an even bigger challenge to police the industry. Yes, eventually they will come to see the difference in some way or another be it from a sharing of an experience from a close friend or whatever influence may make an impression, but in the mean time, we work hard to get in front of our clients so that they don't just get a piece of paper with a description and a price on it left stuck in the front door along with a business card. Sales is not just a way to get the money but a way to secure the relationship. Rod!~

Ok, events can be formal, informal, organized or unorganized. We would like to get a feel for the expereince you are looking for.... please vote.... Beth

Willing to bet you a donut the painter never has either.... ;) At least not knowingly... Beth :cup:

Rodent, Hope you get the answers you are seeking, and if you do, we hope you will abide by the rules here and fill in the information. After all, those who respond to you are above board and have done so. If you don't, well, we'll do what we need to do to manage the forums. Have a great day. :cup: :sunshine: Beth

Thanks Shane! Hey do me a favor throw that link in the PC Gadgets and Help forum too will you? Beth

TGS doesn't have ANY pop-ups. Check your PC. Sounds llike you have been infected by spyware. Beth

Thank you Rick, I couldn't get the words out right. Rod!~

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You might want to call or email HQ to be sure. I copied this with permission to post here (got it in an email) and I don't know if it is a misprint, or if they are not doing one. Normally they do, but you are better off asking PWNA HQ directly. All I know is what I did post is being offered. Beth :groovy2:

One of three things could be going on here: #1-The acid may still be active contributing to #2 #2-The nails could be rusting from age and exposure to acid rain, the treatment or a combination of both. (depends on the strength and dwell time) #3-The tannin (an extractive) is still bleeding from the wood. (most likely) The one suggestion I can make is to re-treat the areas again and once the acid has been rinsed after bleaching the stains, the same areas should be sprayed with a solution of Sodium Bicarbonate to neutralize the acid. This will keep the acid from being reactivated from humidity or rain. There is still a possibility that the stains could reappear in time anyway as this is normal with softwoods such as cedar and redwood. The galvanization process or either electroplating or hot dipping is of no consequence in this case as the cedar shake has no additional preservatives which could lead to fastener corrosion. Pressure treated woods having ACQ, CA etc. can have an detrimental effect on electroplated fasteners. Rod!~

The low pressure part is correct for the Redwood, Hot water in not advisable. Is there anything currently on it? If so, how old? If not, then you can just give it a wash with a percarbonate and neutralize. Some woods such as Redwood may give you some grief and the painter may know this and be farming out the responsibility for the overall job to someone else. Be aware of this and insist on the whole enchilada or nothing. Rod!~

When in doubt, snap a pic. I have not heard the reference "UV wood" before. But I can with a fair amount of certainty that there is no such wood as "UV wood"...as a species... Beth

It was $325.00 per year for us. I do not know if that changes depending on your local BBB or not. Beth

UV wood? He must mean PT wood (pressure treated) which does need cleaning and sealing like anything else. Use a percarb if nothing is on the wood, then neutralize. Beth

I loved that movie! Very well done. We saw Superman Returns on Sunday and loved that too! Beth

On our client's job sites, we apply WTW in a wet on wet application. We don't apply it wet on dry, for the reasons you have stated. Wet on dry is typically a problematic situation. A couple years back, we had a client who had taken Sikkens Cetol SRD and ignoring the label, he applied it in about 5 coats, on purpose, because as he put it he wanted the look of Cetol DEK (at the time DEK was a polymer resin, now it is an alkyd) but didn't want to pay the price per gallon. Penny wise and ...what a mess. It cracked and it peeled, and we looked at it and the whole time he blamed Sikkens. He refused to admit it was his own fault. The SRD container said to apply one saturating coat. Personally, once a sealer gets tacky, to me you need to stop - you are hitting that threshold. Don't know how to explain it....if you can apply and you have no product on top (shinies), and it goes on without....friction (sealer pulls back on your application tool)...then you are probably OK. If you get resistance from your pad or brush it is not good. I have noticed that when it is particularly hot outside, your application window is much, much smaller, and you will get to tacky (and friction or pull) much faster. I don't know if this description is helpful or not. Just trying to convey what I see with my eyes and feel with my hands when I seal wood. Beth

Doh! Sorry - I tend to hear the word 'deck' and associate it with wood. My bad.... :lgangel: Beth