Beth n Rod

Thanks Ken. :) We appreciate the kind words. We hope the site helps everyone to learn and grow. The HD-80 sale is an official Extreme Solutions Sale. I'll ask Russ if it can be extended... All he can do is say no. Beth

02/3/05 20:00:44 tropicalwave Logs in [24.13.142.208] 02/3/05 20:01:06 scottk Logs in [68.217.208.99] 02/3/05 20:02:15 tidyjetwash Logs in [68.232.88.179] 02/3/05 20:02:50 scottk: what's up ya'll 02/3/05 20:02:58 scottk: where is everyone 02/3/05 20:03:38 tropicalwave: how is everyone doing? I just registered to check it out 02/3/05 20:04:04 scottk: there is usually more people 02/3/05 20:04:08 BethnRod Logs in [63.158.252.68] 02/3/05 20:04:10 Rod Logs in [63.158.252.68] 02/3/05 20:04:18 BethnRod: Hi guys! 02/3/05 20:04:24 tropicalwave: got the grime scene email reminder and remembered to register this time 02/3/05 20:04:28 scottk: hey Rod and Beth 02/3/05 20:04:33 Rod: hello 02/3/05 20:04:34 tropicalwave: hey 02/3/05 20:04:36 scottk: ya'll must be networking 02/3/05 20:04:46 Rod: I am here. 02/3/05 20:04:47 BethnRod: yep 02/3/05 20:05:36 BethnRod: Scott don't you have a round table coming up 02/3/05 20:05:36 Rod: Did we interput anything>? 02/3/05 20:05:50 tropicalwave: noooo 02/3/05 20:05:54 scottk: Saturday 02/3/05 20:06:14 scottk: looks like we'll have about 35 in attendance 02/3/05 20:07:24 BethnRod: very nice! 02/3/05 20:07:45 BethnRod: is that a record for steve? 02/3/05 20:07:50 scottk: I think it'll be a great time for everyone 02/3/05 20:08:05 scottk: i think it is a record 02/3/05 20:08:15 BethnRod: cool! Take pictures. 02/3/05 20:08:26 BethnRod: And please give him our best. 02/3/05 20:08:52 BethnRod: hey paul are you coming to the round table up here on the 12th? 02/3/05 20:08:54 scottk: i'll do my best to get pics for all to see 02/3/05 20:09:56 BethnRod: wasn't sure if we would have chat tonight or not.... 02/3/05 20:10:08 Rod Leaves Subroom 02/3/05 20:10:31 scottk: why is that? 02/3/05 20:10:54 BethnRod: well....one day soon the site will be closed for just a little while...untill....viola! 02/3/05 20:12:03 BethnRod: you have to wait to see what's coming soon. 02/3/05 20:12:47 scottk: not fair Beth I'm considerably less that a patient man 02/3/05 20:12:48 Rod: So whats the topic ? 02/3/05 20:13:14 BethnRod: topic? how about spring! as in I can't wait! 02/3/05 20:13:50 BethnRod: scott do you peek into your christmas presents before it is time to unwrap them? 02/3/05 20:14:33 scottk: i just unwrap them...the wife hides them in someone elses house til christmas day 02/3/05 20:15:43 BethnRod: Don't worry it sholdn't be too long 02/3/05 20:16:58 Rod: Cabin fever got their tongues.... 02/3/05 20:17:07 Rod: wasssuuupppp!!!!! 02/3/05 20:17:26 Rod: u gy's no speek ing 02/3/05 20:18:09 scottk: we have been couped up for 2 days becuase of rain...i had to push a roof clean and housewash off til tomorrow 02/3/05 20:18:39 Rod: I hear you, weather here has been wreaking havoc with our schedules too. 02/3/05 20:19:03 Rod: had a large project moved to next week due to snow today 02/3/05 20:19:29 scottk: we'll finish it in the AM and them we have a thousand errands to run so we'llbe ready for the meeting Sat 02/3/05 20:20:27 BethnRod: that reminds me pwna has not sent our round table kit yet. I need to call them tomorrow. 02/3/05 20:22:10 BethnRod: scott - do you have any guest speakers for your event saturday? 02/3/05 20:22:18 scottk: i have to pick up some stuff from a local vendor and we have to set up the place we are going after Hooters 02/3/05 20:22:33 BethnRod: where are you going? 02/3/05 20:22:48 scottk: Steve is going to demo quickbooks and some of his chems 02/3/05 20:23:07 BethnRod: sounds fun! 02/3/05 20:23:17 scottk: a few guys are bringing their rigs 02/3/05 20:23:42 BethnRod: that's always a winner too. hope you have warm weather. it sure helps. 02/3/05 20:24:01 scottk: i'm hoping 1 of teh Fl guys will do a roof cleaning demo with the set up they use 02/3/05 20:24:30 Rod: Demos are a great event at these rt's 02/3/05 20:24:44 scottk: we are supposed to have temps around 65 Sat 02/3/05 20:25:04 BethnRod: you lucky dogs! 02/3/05 20:25:28 scottk: it beats the heck out of rainy and 39 like it's been since Tues 02/3/05 20:25:49 BethnRod: Ha! we had snow today. 02/3/05 20:25:58 tidyjetwash Disconnects 02/3/05 20:26:22 BethnRod: I wish it would just get warm an stay warm. 02/3/05 20:26:38 scottk: snow.....................eewwwww...we had sleet last week but it only lasted 15 minutes 02/3/05 20:26:57 BethnRod: when do you guys ususally start decks down there, or is it year round? 02/3/05 20:27:53 scottk: we can start them sometime in late March,,,,,,but we do very few 02/3/05 20:28:16 BethnRod: what do you do mainly? 02/3/05 20:30:02 Rod: tropicalwave, anything you'd like to talk about? 02/3/05 20:30:19 BethnRod: *welcome* 02/3/05 20:30:47 scottk: mostly commercial concrete and house/roof washes 02/3/05 20:31:13 tropicalwave: actually, I was just putting together my shurflo tonight....UPS got it here this morning 02/3/05 20:31:16 Rod: I dont like heights! Me stay on the ground where if I fall, my butt aint far! LOL 02/3/05 20:31:36 Rod: gotcha, a new toy 02/3/05 20:31:51 tropicalwave: oh yea...lemme ask a ? 02/3/05 20:31:52 BethnRod: shurflo's rock 02/3/05 20:32:19 Rod: shoot 02/3/05 20:32:40 BethnRod: *whip* 02/3/05 20:33:03 tropicalwave: if I spray oil sealer thru it, how do I clean it out....cleaning a pump up is easy, but how do you clean the pump, wand, gun and 100 feet of hose? 02/3/05 20:33:42 Rod: You can keep spraying till the pump stops sucking, then introduce your clear water into the line... 02/3/05 20:34:18 Rod: What psi is your new pump? 02/3/05 20:34:22 tropicalwave: thought Id have to spray paint thinner thru it or mineral spirits, but that would be flammable 02/3/05 20:34:43 tropicalwave: 1.2 60psi 02/3/05 20:35:01 tropicalwave: ALL viton 02/3/05 20:35:03 Rod: you can use either, expensive but feasible 02/3/05 20:35:16 Rod: the sealer is flammable too 02/3/05 20:35:39 tropicalwave: big sticker on it that says, "not for use with flammable liquids" 02/3/05 20:35:47 tropicalwave: lol, thats true 02/3/05 20:36:37 Rod: I use mine for spraying chems. The size you have is fine for spraying sealer. 02/3/05 20:37:00 tropicalwave: I guess I could use different hoses for stripper chems then change out for the sealer 02/3/05 20:37:20 tropicalwave: Ill spray stripper and acid, but not roof bobs 02/3/05 20:37:29 tropicalwave: ooops, jobs 02/3/05 20:37:46 Rod: you could. 02/3/05 20:38:12 tropicalwave: we dont get the roof problems up here like down south 02/3/05 20:38:21 Rod: are you mounting this or creating a portable setup? 02/3/05 20:39:27 tropicalwave: its gonna be primarily for wood, yes, got a rockin hand truck today, all the nuts n bolts, just need to assemble, get a battery and box 02/3/05 20:40:41 Rod: sounds like a cool set... 02/3/05 20:41:20 tropicalwave: I got the 1/4" barbs and 1/4' line...Im hoping I dont regret not getting the 3/8, but 3/8 seems to big for sealer 02/3/05 20:41:42 Rod: if I may recommend something? 02/3/05 20:41:59 tropicalwave: go ahead, please.................. 02/3/05 20:43:03 Rod: Breco industries makes a male and female connector that when they are unconnected, 02/3/05 20:43:22 Rod: The flow is shut off and allows for change overs that have less mess. 02/3/05 20:43:40 tropicalwave: example ? 02/3/05 20:44:01 Rod: unlike QC's, when you disconnet them, water can still come out... 02/3/05 20:44:15 Rod: In these nothing can come out, the valve shuts . 02/3/05 20:44:20 tropicalwave: I see, like a ball valve ? 02/3/05 20:44:31 Rod: without the ball, it is spring loaded. 02/3/05 20:45:01 tropicalwave: where do I put that? at the pump before the hose or inline somewhere? 02/3/05 20:45:15 Rod: both. 02/3/05 20:45:22 shadow Logs in [151.213.151.143] 02/3/05 20:45:32 BethnRod: hi shadow 02/3/05 20:45:37 Rod: before and after the pump, and on each end of the line you are using. 02/3/05 20:45:49 Rod: oops, after the pump only 02/3/05 20:45:51 shadow: sorry i'm late 02/3/05 20:46:01 Rod: hello shadow 02/3/05 20:46:20 Rod: then on the connections where your gun is. 02/3/05 20:46:35 BethnRod: Hey shadow, what's your name and where are you from? 02/3/05 20:46:40 shadow: for those of u that don't know i'm new to the biz. 02/3/05 20:46:52 tropicalwave: so i would be able to pretty much be able to dismantle the whole setup and trap whatever liquid was still in there 02/3/05 20:47:04 Rod: exactly 02/3/05 20:47:04 shadow: mike sweerin jefferson. ga 02/3/05 20:47:16 Rod: welcome to the biz shadow... 02/3/05 20:47:19 BethnRod: :) Ah! Hi mike! 02/3/05 20:47:31 shadow: hi 02/3/05 20:47:55 BethnRod: Mike you should go to Scott's round table on saturday 02/3/05 20:48:17 shadow: i have somethings to run by u guys on my first setup 02/3/05 20:48:22 tropicalwave: I hear alot of folks talking about problems priming the pump, should I put a sqweeze bulb in line or is it not gonna be a problem? 02/3/05 20:48:29 shadow: this sat. 02/3/05 20:48:47 BethnRod: yes. Hey scott....you still reading? 02/3/05 20:48:59 shadow: where's it at again 02/3/05 20:49:07 BethnRod: *whip* scott? 02/3/05 20:49:11 scottk: yep... 02/3/05 20:49:14 Rod: you can get one at a marine supply store, they will help...but...they can also seize up if you dont keep the system wet. 02/3/05 20:49:22 BethnRod: Mike wants to know about this saturday 02/3/05 20:50:26 scottk: Albany Ga. Sat Feb 5th 11 am Hooter of Albany 02/3/05 20:50:30 tropicalwave: jeesh, sounds like its gonna be a tweak here and there for awhile...but thats ok, have about 2 months before its warm enough here 02/3/05 20:50:48 shadow: i'll try to make it 02/3/05 20:51:01 Rod: it is, but you'll be glad you did once you see how easy it makes things... 02/3/05 20:51:10 shadow: i'm closer to atlanta 02/3/05 20:51:27 scottk: we have several guys comiong down from Atl 02/3/05 20:51:28 Rod: worked on your wood techniques lately? 02/3/05 20:52:12 tropicalwave: to cold and snowy 02/3/05 20:52:25 shadow: can i go over a few things with u guys about the unit i'm looking at 02/3/05 20:52:52 Rod: sure 02/3/05 20:53:54 shadow: is $12,000 to much to spend for my firts unit 02/3/05 20:54:16 Rod: just the unit? or complete with reels and tank? 02/3/05 20:54:27 BethnRod: what are you getting for 12K 02/3/05 20:55:37 shadow: it 8gpm hot water witha 525 tank and 24in steel eagle on a 2 axle trailer 02/3/05 20:56:09 Rod: not that it matter, just curious, what brand? 02/3/05 20:56:28 shadow: i got this price frooom ga, chem 02/3/05 20:56:33 BethnRod: new or used 02/3/05 20:56:44 BethnRod: if used how many hours on the machine 02/3/05 20:56:48 shadow: hydrotek 02/3/05 20:57:04 BethnRod: we use hydrotek also 02/3/05 20:57:09 shadow: with a 25hp briggs 02/3/05 20:57:13 Rod: where are you located? I could get you a better deal with the person that sold us ours... 02/3/05 20:57:25 BethnRod: one gun or two? 02/3/05 20:57:28 shadow: jefferson ga 02/3/05 20:57:34 shadow: 2 02/3/05 20:57:35 Rod: too far south 02/3/05 20:57:56 BethnRod: Mike call Tom Vogel 02/3/05 20:58:01 Rod: great unit, got ours for 7k plus extras. 02/3/05 20:58:15 shadow: who's that 02/3/05 20:58:31 BethnRod: phone is 1-866-455-1293 02/3/05 20:58:45 BethnRod: Tom owns ACR products 02/3/05 20:58:54 BethnRod: he's a hydrotek dealer 02/3/05 20:59:09 Rod: no trailer though. 02/3/05 20:59:25 BethnRod: if you can save a few K on the deal it is worth looking into 02/3/05 20:59:48 BethnRod: tell him Beth & Rod sent you please. 02/3/05 20:59:52 shadow: i got a friend that is a trailer dealer so thats ok 02/3/05 21:00:06 shadow: i will do that 02/3/05 21:00:06 scottk: i built our set up for under 8K by doing it myself 02/3/05 21:00:42 tropicalwave: Beth N Rod, are the F series wood products on sale thru the 5th like the HD and EFC ?? 02/3/05 21:01:01 BethnRod: No. Just the ESI products. 02/3/05 21:01:20 tropicalwave: I figured, thought Id take a shot though 02/3/05 21:01:33 Rod: scott, good way to go if you have the know. 02/3/05 21:01:36 shadow: with me being new i want to buy my first one then after that i can build the rest 02/3/05 21:02:00 scottk: that was with both hose reels,tanks,16" surface cleaner.48" wand and gun.250ft of pressure hose.200 ft filler hose 02/3/05 21:02:16 scottk: Mike this was our first 02/3/05 21:02:40 BethnRod: Tom is a great guy. Can't go wrong with him. 02/3/05 21:02:52 shadow: really how many gpm 02/3/05 21:03:14 scottk: 5.5....i just didn't see the need for anything bigger 02/3/05 21:03:15 shadow: and is 8 gpm to much 02/3/05 21:03:26 shadow: for me 02/3/05 21:03:47 Rod: not if you have a tank. 02/3/05 21:03:53 BethnRod: 8gpm is not too much if you run two wands. 02/3/05 21:03:58 shadow: where is tom out of 02/3/05 21:04:00 Rod: 8gpm and 2 guns is a great set up 02/3/05 21:04:09 scottk: it isn't too much if you will benefit from it. 02/3/05 21:04:11 Rod: PA 02/3/05 21:04:17 BethnRod: right. 02/3/05 21:04:26 BethnRod: our first hot unit was 1 gun. 02/3/05 21:04:43 shadow: did you out grow is fast 02/3/05 21:04:59 shadow: it fast 02/3/05 21:05:05 BethnRod: our very first machine....ready for a laugh? a used, refurbished cold unit 2500psi 02/3/05 21:05:16 scottk: Mike what you will find is most companies run within the 5gpm area 02/3/05 21:05:25 BethnRod: no we still have it. 02/3/05 21:05:35 BethnRod: we added a truck and got another machine 02/3/05 21:05:36 scottk: and they are very fast and successful with them 02/3/05 21:06:02 BethnRod: 5gpm is a good one. 02/3/05 21:06:22 scottk: we have a Largo amchine and have been very happy with it 02/3/05 21:06:28 scottk: machine 02/3/05 21:07:35 shadow: we will have at least two guys working on the machine at a time so two wands makes sence to us right 02/3/05 21:07:45 shadow: since to us 02/3/05 21:07:53 Rod: doubles your productivity 02/3/05 21:08:07 shadow: so with that siad is 8 gpm better? 02/3/05 21:08:28 Rod: for that reason yes... 02/3/05 21:08:51 shadow: also i was wondering if any of you have a sample of a maintance agreement for a comercial account 02/3/05 21:08:59 Rod: you may want to consider renting or purchasing a meter for using fire hydrant water to refill 02/3/05 21:09:25 shadow: i am also in need of a final name for the bus any ideas 02/3/05 21:09:29 Rod: depends on the type of manitenance 02/3/05 21:09:42 scottk: if you will use it all the time...it would be,however,you'll find that with a 2 person crew it helps to have somoene free to pull hoses and premix chems 02/3/05 21:09:53 shadow: monthly bi anual quarterly? 02/3/05 21:10:01 shadow: what other types might i need 02/3/05 21:10:07 Rod: again, depends... 02/3/05 21:10:25 shadow: commercial 02/3/05 21:10:29 Rod: wood, annual clean and recoat. 02/3/05 21:10:55 Rod: comm...quarterly 02/3/05 21:11:00 shadow: no more along the lines of surface cleaning on sidewalks lots and the like 02/3/05 21:11:00 BethnRod: Mike, call me on the phone on the name thing....I have several good ones tucked up my sleeve. 02/3/05 21:11:19 shadow: will do 02/3/05 21:12:06 shadow: we have a lot of new commercial industrial going in around us right now 02/3/05 21:12:18 Rod: scott, good suggestions, the crew seems to work great with a dual setup. both spray at the same time and then wash the same way 02/3/05 21:12:25 shadow: an i would like to capaplitize on it 02/3/05 21:12:53 Rod: plus, they premix the neutralizer to be ready when they are for it. 02/3/05 21:13:13 scottk: doing wood it would be great to have 2 guns 02/3/05 21:13:49 scottk: we do more commercial concrete...drive thrus etc than wood so i like the extra eyes and hands for hoses and chems 02/3/05 21:14:33 shadow: so u got one guy usingthe gun and the other working the hoses 02/3/05 21:14:39 scottk: yes 02/3/05 21:15:02 shadow: like the side line crews at football games 02/3/05 21:15:12 scottk: the other guy in my case is a girl/woman(the wife) 02/3/05 21:15:24 shadow: what if u had a three man crew 02/3/05 21:15:35 shadow: we may us a friend for bigger jobs 02/3/05 21:15:50 Rod: we used a 3 man crew, 2 guys spraying, 1 mixing and moving the hoses... 02/3/05 21:15:53 BethnRod: Women rock ;) 02/3/05 21:16:00 scottk: then you would benefit from a 2 gun set up 02/3/05 21:16:29 scottk: she'll work circles around most men 02/3/05 21:17:02 Rod: I wish we could get more women interested in this field, they work really well since it is creative... 02/3/05 21:17:12 shadow: any pics of rigs avail? 02/3/05 21:17:34 scottk: if you are goingto be a 2 man crew mainly i would go with 5gpm and add a 3000 psi/4gpm cold amchine for teh times you add a 3rd person 02/3/05 21:18:04 scottk: therre are some pic sof our on teh cleaner network 02/3/05 21:18:38 shadow: 6gpm 525 tank hot water 100' hose wand 20 hp briggs 60 hrs 6000.00 good deal or no? 02/3/05 21:18:44 Rod: beth gets down with the wand as well as any guy... 02/3/05 21:18:45 scottk: wow i can't type 02/3/05 21:18:59 scottk: angela loves running the surface cleaner 02/3/05 21:19:06 BethnRod: me too! 02/3/05 21:19:16 BethnRod: surface cleaner are fun 02/3/05 21:19:27 BethnRod: I also like sealing decks 02/3/05 21:19:40 scottk: how old is the machine and hours on it Mike? 02/3/05 21:19:52 shadow: instant gratification is always better than waiting to see the fruits of ur labor 02/3/05 21:19:58 shadow: 60 hrs 1 yr old 02/3/05 21:19:59 scottk: duh...i see now 02/3/05 21:20:09 scottk: with trailer? 02/3/05 21:20:17 shadow: yes trailer incl 02/3/05 21:20:31 scottk: hose reels or any other accessories? 02/3/05 21:20:32 shadow: would have to make a trip to pu 02/3/05 21:20:50 shadow: no reels no real other acces 02/3/05 21:21:05 shadow: fly out of town and tow back 02/3/05 21:21:22 scottk: where would you pick up? 02/3/05 21:21:54 shadow: az 02/3/05 21:21:57 shadow: from ga 02/3/05 21:22:11 shadow: i have family in az 02/3/05 21:22:20 shadow: woiuld only have to pay for gas homw 02/3/05 21:22:23 shadow: home 02/3/05 21:22:46 shadow: and bonus i would get to make the cross country trip with my grandma 02/3/05 21:22:49 scottk: if you could get it for $5k i say maybe 02/3/05 21:23:00 BethnRod: I'm with scott 02/3/05 21:23:09 BethnRod: You can do better 02/3/05 21:23:14 shadow: where 02/3/05 21:23:29 shadow: i will call tom but he is in pa and im in ga 02/3/05 21:23:49 BethnRod: and PA is closer than AZ 02/3/05 21:23:55 scottk: i promise you can build a 5.5gpm skid rig for around 8K all new...with the accessories 02/3/05 21:23:58 shadow: but it is warmer in az 02/3/05 21:24:03 scottk: it's not as hard as you would think 02/3/05 21:24:04 shadow: no snow on the way 02/3/05 21:24:15 scottk: and if it breaks you kow how to fix it 02/3/05 21:24:22 scottk: know 02/3/05 21:25:37 shadow: y not spend 3k+ and get a 8 gpm machine with two guns 02/3/05 21:25:56 shadow: i owe i owe so off to work i go 02/3/05 21:26:28 scottk: Rod how mcuh is a replacement pump for your 8gpm machine?? 02/3/05 21:26:32 scottk: much 02/3/05 21:26:47 shadow: and a 5.5 gpm? 02/3/05 21:27:36 shadow: i am prone ot breaking anvil making machines with a push tac 02/3/05 21:28:25 shadow: am i alone here? 02/3/05 21:28:40 Rod: 8gpm around 700, 5.5 around 400 02/3/05 21:28:54 shadow: dollars or yen 02/3/05 21:29:00 scottk: dolllars 02/3/05 21:29:07 BethnRod: pesos! ;) 02/3/05 21:29:10 scottk: lol 02/3/05 21:29:39 shadow: who makes the best hot pumps 02/3/05 21:29:53 shadow: cat is what i have been told 02/3/05 21:29:54 Rod: Cat 02/3/05 21:29:55 scottk: water cannon sell the 5.5 for around $329 plumbed 02/3/05 21:30:24 BethnRod: who makes the best engines? 02/3/05 21:30:45 scottk: Honda...but we run a Briggs 02/3/05 21:30:54 shadow: cost? 02/3/05 21:30:59 shadow: or just conv 02/3/05 21:31:20 BethnRod: we like Hondas on our cold units 02/3/05 21:31:22 scottk: conv....i can replace a briggs for what i can rebuild a honda for 02/3/05 21:31:25 shadow: i was told that at higher hp it starts to make less of a diff 02/3/05 21:31:35 BethnRod: we like Kohler on our hot units 02/3/05 21:31:40 shadow: y 02/3/05 21:31:57 shadow: any diesel? 02/3/05 21:32:11 BethnRod: yep. hot units will burn diesel 02/3/05 21:32:18 shadow: rpm too low? 02/3/05 21:32:25 BethnRod: for the burner 02/3/05 21:32:31 BethnRod: engine is gas 02/3/05 21:32:35 shadow: for the engines i mean 02/3/05 21:32:38 Rod: unleaded... 02/3/05 21:32:47 Rod: burneres use diesel 02/3/05 21:32:54 BethnRod: or kerosene 02/3/05 21:33:03 shadow: i know why not use a deisel engine for the pump 02/3/05 21:33:19 shadow: last longer 02/3/05 21:33:46 shadow: inital cost higer but lower maintance and lower cost to run 02/3/05 21:33:53 scottk: would require a liquid cooling system to make it run effcient 02/3/05 21:33:56 Rod: gas is the standard for small engines 02/3/05 21:34:38 scottk: there are some british made units that have liquid cool but they are very pricey 02/3/05 21:35:26 shadow: i am familiar with deutz and lambardi 02/3/05 21:35:31 shadow: both air cooled 02/3/05 21:35:47 shadow: just a question not trying to reinvent the wheel 02/3/05 21:36:02 scottk: i have wondered the same thing 02/3/05 21:36:26 Rod: espec has a unit witha lombardi...over kill for our purposes 02/3/05 21:36:53 shadow: whats the specs 02/3/05 21:37:11 Rod: espec = envirospec 02/3/05 21:37:35 shadow: if it can run 8 guns i'm there 02/3/05 21:37:40 scottk: is it the Iron Horse Rod? 02/3/05 21:37:40 shadow: lol 02/3/05 21:37:59 Rod: one of them yes 02/3/05 21:38:26 scottk: sweet machines...too bad mr allison has such an attitude sometimes 02/3/05 21:38:29 Rod: 6-10k psi 02/3/05 21:38:32 shadow: my friend scott at nomo can build one with a ram jet 350 chevy small block 02/3/05 21:38:42 BethnRod: lol you got that right Scott! 02/3/05 21:38:51 Rod: now there you go...car power 02/3/05 21:39:10 shadow: 365 hp and 415 ft/lbs of torque 02/3/05 21:39:20 shadow: he had one in his jeep 02/3/05 21:39:35 scottk: i don't want to wash with it i want to race it................lol 02/3/05 21:40:12 Rod: if you build a pressure washer out of your cars engine... 02/3/05 21:40:12 shadow: now who wants to bid on the runways at the airport? 02/3/05 21:40:40 Rod: diff equip. altogether 02/3/05 21:40:46 BethnRod: yep 02/3/05 21:41:05 BethnRod: we have seen the deicing machines... 02/3/05 21:41:09 shadow: better viz and fewer twin jets leaving the runway on landing 02/3/05 21:41:34 shadow: if we build it they will come? 02/3/05 21:41:45 Rod: what? 02/3/05 21:41:58 shadow: just kidding 02/3/05 21:42:01 BethnRod Disconnects 02/3/05 21:42:33 shadow: goodbye all for the good old south of the usa 02/3/05 21:42:34 BethnRod Logs in [63.158.252.68] 02/3/05 21:42:45 shadow: may be not just yeet 02/3/05 21:42:47 jakobe75@earthlink.net Logs in [66.184.158.2] 02/3/05 21:42:56 shadow: wtz up jake 02/3/05 21:43:00 jakobe75@earthlink.net: hello room jake here 02/3/05 21:43:05 BethnRod: Hi Jake 02/3/05 21:43:05 Rod: hi jake 02/3/05 21:43:07 jakobe75@earthlink.net: ola senor 02/3/05 21:43:20 shadow: everyone jake is my biz part. 02/3/05 21:43:27 Rod: good to meet you 02/3/05 21:43:29 jakobe75@earthlink.net: oi mate 02/3/05 21:43:37 shadow: he is the brains not the size of the operation 02/3/05 21:43:46 scottk: Mike try to make it down to Albany/Sylveter on Saturday...there will be a couple rigs here 02/3/05 21:43:47 jakobe75@earthlink.net: the pleasure is all mine 02/3/05 21:44:08 shadow: scott wrote that 02/3/05 21:44:10 jakobe75@earthlink.net: jsut working on websites right now 02/3/05 21:44:23 BethnRod: Ah yes...Jake is a web designer? 02/3/05 21:44:29 jakobe75@earthlink.net: yes i am 02/3/05 21:44:34 shadow: yeah if anyone needs a great web site give jake a jingle 02/3/05 21:44:36 BethnRod: Nice to meet a fellow geek 02/3/05 21:44:51 jakobe75@earthlink.net: yup i host ..script...design..you name it 02/3/05 21:44:52 BethnRod: lol I build them too 02/3/05 21:44:53 shadow: high five beth 02/3/05 21:45:06 Rod: *slap* 02/3/05 21:45:09 shadow: ch out nomooffroad.com 02/3/05 21:45:23 jakobe75@earthlink.net: i concentrate on artwork and dynamic scripting 02/3/05 21:45:33 shadow: that is a site of jakes and a possible business part fof the future 02/3/05 21:45:37 BethnRod: I have been building sites for contractors for a few years now. 02/3/05 21:45:43 jakobe75@earthlink.net: right on 02/3/05 21:46:31 scottk: i built our......gawd tehy are so lame 02/3/05 21:46:34 shadow: anyone doing any business that can be directly related to their site? 02/3/05 21:46:34 jakobe75@earthlink.net: many people dont know how powerful a tool a website can be 02/3/05 21:46:41 scottk: :p 02/3/05 21:46:49 Rod: agreed 02/3/05 21:46:56 Rod: very powerful 02/3/05 21:47:08 BethnRod: I built our site back in 99 02/3/05 21:47:10 shadow: by the way jake when is our site going to be done ? 02/3/05 21:47:25 jakobe75@earthlink.net: we are trying toput together a power washing service now and the site i have designed for it is soo smart 02/3/05 21:47:42 jakobe75@earthlink.net: soon i will finalize the desing tonite or tom. 02/3/05 21:47:47 jakobe75@earthlink.net: just have to add content 02/3/05 21:47:57 scottk: teh web addy for the bellsouth site we have is so long it takes 2 business cards top fit it all on 02/3/05 21:48:04 shadow: beth gave me a conn for a better deal on the unit 02/3/05 21:48:23 shadow: but he is in pa 02/3/05 21:48:56 jakobe75@earthlink.net: we are integrating client details and scheduling and some other top secret stuff 02/3/05 21:49:14 BethnRod: lol you go Jake ;) 02/3/05 21:49:22 jakobe75@earthlink.net: all is maintianable form one control panel you can even update it form your cell phone 02/3/05 21:49:24 shadow: giive jake a call and he can set u up a new domain name and make it shorter and cut ur business card cost in half 02/3/05 21:49:52 shadow: he knows where to have cards printed cheap too 02/3/05 21:50:19 shadow: and talk to him about any flyers that u may need printed or designed 02/3/05 21:50:22 jakobe75@earthlink.net: yup very cheap and i got a new ocntact today i am going to try out ..they are here in atlanta so it will save $$ on shipping 02/3/05 21:50:31 BethnRod: I do that too... ;) 02/3/05 21:50:57 jakobe75@earthlink.net: usually the shipping is what kills you on printed material...2500 card stock flyers are heavy 02/3/05 21:50:59 shadow: what is the name orf ur site beth 02/3/05 21:51:02 shadow: of 02/3/05 21:51:11 BethnRod: www.thegrimescene.com 02/3/05 21:51:16 jakobe75@earthlink.net: duh 02/3/05 21:51:16 BethnRod: www.seedirtrun.com 02/3/05 21:51:26 BethnRod: and anout a dozen others 02/3/05 21:51:30 shadow: i like that name 02/3/05 21:51:33 BethnRod: oops about 12 others 02/3/05 21:51:47 BethnRod: Like I said, call me on the biz name. 02/3/05 21:51:52 jakobe75@earthlink.net: we havent chossen a name yet 02/3/05 21:51:53 BethnRod: I can help 02/3/05 21:52:17 jakobe75@earthlink.net: so the site now has no logo i cant set it live until we pick a name 02/3/05 21:52:20 shadow: scott said dumb and dumber 02/3/05 21:52:28 shadow: beth ur in ny right 02/3/05 21:52:33 BethnRod: Md 02/3/05 21:52:50 shadow: anything north of atl is all the same right 02/3/05 21:53:01 BethnRod: time wise? 02/3/05 21:53:18 shadow: no masin dixon line moved south 02/3/05 21:53:21 shadow: mason 02/3/05 21:53:26 BethnRod: we are south of PA 02/3/05 21:53:44 shadow: ok we can cut u some slackk 02/3/05 21:54:03 BethnRod: *slap* ya better... 02/3/05 21:54:08 shadow: ok ok ok 02/3/05 21:54:11 BethnRod: lol 02/3/05 21:54:41 shadow: scott is taking over for shadow 02/3/05 21:54:42 BethnRod: cool 4x4 forums jake 02/3/05 21:54:50 shadow: jake shadow is getting readl to call u 02/3/05 21:55:15 scottk: another Scott..... 02/3/05 21:55:29 shadow: yeah jake did a great job on my site and it has only been up since dec 02/3/05 21:55:39 shadow: yep 02/3/05 21:55:48 shadow: and also scott k 02/3/05 21:55:56 shadow: scott kimbell 02/3/05 21:56:05 scottk: scott karvonen here 02/3/05 21:56:05 BethnRod: so shadow is mike and an other scott too? 02/3/05 21:56:07 shadow: is that confusing enough 02/3/05 21:56:28 BethnRod: yep....how many others live in there with you ;) 02/3/05 21:56:31 shadow: yep i am thinking about getting into thei with jake and mike 02/3/05 21:56:36 shadow: this with 02/3/05 21:56:46 jakobe75@earthlink.net: heres a link to a smaple image of the site 02/3/05 21:56:47 shadow: too many 02/3/05 21:56:49 scottk: lol....boy that have you snowballed 02/3/05 21:56:53 scottk: joking 02/3/05 21:56:58 shadow: this is the warward home for the lost 02/3/05 21:57:03 jakobe75@earthlink.net: http://www.nomooffroad.com/wash/test.html 02/3/05 21:57:38 scottk: how old are you guys? 02/3/05 21:57:38 shadow: what is that jake 02/3/05 21:57:45 BethnRod Disconnects 02/3/05 21:57:48 Rod Disconnects 02/3/05 21:57:51 shadow: i am the oldest at 34 02/3/05 21:57:58 jakobe75@earthlink.net: it sis a link to a sample image of the power wash site 02/3/05 21:58:06 shadow: cool 02/3/05 21:58:14 shadow: i will check it out 02/3/05 21:58:23 shadow: is it the same as the other night 02/3/05 21:58:36 BethnRod Logs in [63.159.49.46] 02/3/05 21:58:46 BethnRod: ok please share that link again 02/3/05 21:59:06 jakobe75@earthlink.net: the link is to an a screenshot of my work so far just a jpeg of the site no buttons work yet 02/3/05 21:59:10 Rod Logs in [63.159.49.46] 02/3/05 21:59:14 Rod: sorry, we stepped out for a smooch * Moofie got us too... 02/3/05 21:59:21 Rod: lol 02/3/05 21:59:30 shadow: that was a wuickie 02/3/05 21:59:35 shadow: quickie 02/3/05 21:59:49 shadow: hahaha 02/3/05 22:00:02 jakobe75@earthlink.net: me huh okay 02/3/05 22:00:38 jakobe75@earthlink.net: http://www.nomooffroad.com/wash/test.html 02/3/05 22:00:47 jakobe75@earthlink.net: k goota go be back soon 02/3/05 22:00:56 BethnRod: do you mind feedback? 02/3/05 22:01:07 shadow: not at all 02/3/05 22:01:14 shadow: we would welcome it 02/3/05 22:01:15 BethnRod: too busy 02/3/05 22:01:26 shadow: wjat do u mean 02/3/05 22:01:31 shadow: what 02/3/05 22:01:41 BethnRod: too many graphic competing for your focus 02/3/05 22:01:55 shadow: k we will take that into account 02/3/05 22:01:59 BethnRod: use fewer... 02/3/05 22:02:52 BethnRod: just my two cents. ;) lots of good stuff up there tho 02/3/05 22:03:00 shadow: kewl 02/3/05 22:03:16 shadow: do u like overall though 02/3/05 22:03:30 BethnRod: it has potential. 02/3/05 22:03:41 shadow: thanks 02/3/05 22:03:53 BethnRod: right now at first glance, it looks like a landscapers site 02/3/05 22:04:08 BethnRod: the grass in the middle makes me think lawn care 02/3/05 22:04:38 shadow: we are also offering landscaping and lawn maintance 02/3/05 22:05:01 BethnRod: then in that case, it looks good 02/3/05 22:05:14 shadow: we hope to be a home estitecs one stop shop 02/3/05 22:05:28 shadow: can't spell estitics 02/3/05 22:05:37 shadow: is that right 02/3/05 22:05:52 shadow: where is spell check 02/3/05 22:06:00 BethnRod: I know what you mean ..I think there is an 'h' in there 02/3/05 22:06:01 shadow: jake look that up k 02/3/05 22:06:06 Rod: asthetics? 02/3/05 22:06:14 shadow: that is it 02/3/05 22:06:14 BethnRod: that too 02/3/05 22:06:31 Rod: wierd word 02/3/05 22:06:33 BethnRod: hey I'mm gonna scoot guys. Been a long day 02/3/05 22:06:40 shadow: tha t is why i am not an english teacher 02/3/05 22:06:54 shadow: ok shadow will call u tomorrow 02/3/05 22:06:54 Rod: me too, stay as long as you like... 02/3/05 22:07:01 Rod: g'nite~ 02/3/05 22:07:01 BethnRod Logs Out 02/3/05 22:07:05 shadow: thanks we are outie 02/3/05 22:07:08 Rod Logs Out 02/3/05 22:07:16 shadow Logs Out 02/3/05 22:09:33 jakobe75@earthlink.net Disconnects 02/3/05 22:09:33 scottk: I'm out guys...Jake you and Mike need to come to Albany for teh roundtable meeting I'm hosting...Hooters of Albany 11am saturday Feb 5th 02/3/05 22:09:41 scottk Logs Out 02/3/05 22:18:37 tropicalwave Logs Out 02/4/05 01:09:55 shadow Logs in [151.213.151.143] 02/4/05 01:10:08 shadow Logs Out

Ron, Settings for non-members are not the same as for members...that's why you can't start a poll. Beth

This year you will all be able to see Wood Tux Wet for yourselves. We have tested it. It works. We have not done a whole deck with it, but knowing what we know of Wood Tux, and what we know of the formulation of the wet product, it is brilliant. It is ahead of its time. Wood Tux will work wet or dry this year - Wood Tux has been improved. If you have used WT and liked it, you will like it even more. If you have been waiting, this might be a good time to try it. We have been excited about Extreme Solutions products for years. We began using the chems when they were still being formulated. We had no hesitation in using the sealer when it was introduced. The jobs we have used it on still look great. The whole product line is very well thought out and formulated. There are other products we like to seal with as well, but day in and day out, if we had a preference, Wood Tux is our product of choice. Beth :groovy3:

Paul, Are you still planning to make the DC round table on Feb 12th?? Beth

In maryland, we seem to have a shortage of service centers for repairs on pw'ers. I have to drive to the next county to get work done. During the busy season, it is an hour travel time just to and from the center not to mention the time standing in line with all the other pw owners who need service. Anyone else have this problem? Rod~

Just a little sarcasm about the repair service, I have a business to run and no time for that. Just comiserating about the lack of more 'quality' repair facilities around here. Rod~

Remember test will vary. We have extensive field time with Extreme Solutions product line and know what it will do inside and out, every time we need it. We have not found a product yet that can out perform HD-80. We have begun to use the F series, and did get very favorable results, but as Rod said.....Hurry up spring! Beth

Thanks :) Fast is a good thing. Beth

We can speak well to using HD-80 from our past experience with it. I havent found any sealer that it wont remove. I rarely need to use it any stronger than 6oz.(weight)/gal. As far as F-18 working better, I am still working on the dilution ratios to see what works best for what... As always, its never a bad thing to have them both in your arsenal. We have field tested HD-80, EFC-38 and Citralic for all our wood care needs and they have worked wonderfully. F-18, F-10 and F-08 are great products that we are happy to say are getting very good results. More to come on this as we continue our trials this season. (hurry up spring!) Rod~

JR isn't on much these days...got married this past year as I recall. Beth

Jim, If you have the adjustable pressure wheel on the gun then it is model #W-980-1/4M-11/16M They dont have any parts other than the whole gun and the nozzles or extensions. Call if you need any more info... Rod~

It's hard to say at this point how many we have. We have cleaned out the database a couple times, and the user count has been higher than 1,500 before. It's large, I'll say that. Beth

Rude and mean....and gross. Beth

The graveyard of sprayers, everyone seems to have had them. One thing or another breaking down or wearing out. No local supply for parts. You'd think some one would read this and :idea: and then figure out a way to :lgmoneyey supply them?!? :hmmm: Vendors should be reading these boards, really! Rod~

1 Million plus equipment. Rod~

Please check out the FAQ feature. http://www.thegrimescene.com/forums/faq.php? We are still adding to it but it is off to a good start. If you have information you would like to contribute to the FAQ Area, please post the information in the appropriate forum and add "FAQ" to the thread title. All content submitted will be reviewed for accuracy prior to being posted in the FAQ area. A FAQ should be descriptive and factual. Beth & Rod:think:

We have info on Wood Care and House Washing in the FAQ area as well. Also we have begun to add a Dictionary of Cleaning & Business terms. We will be adding Environmental FAQ's in the future as well. What else would you like to have at your fingertips? Beth & Rod

The only other thing I would like to add would be PPE... Andy has pointed out a way that many mix in a 55 gallon drum using a powerwasher. Generally, you will start with about 5 gallons or more in the drum and then use their power washer lance to agitate the mix as they add hot water to it until full. Alan has another good way in that he is making sure that the product has not precipitated out of solution before adding it to his main batch. One thing to remember is that there is a saturation point. This means that the water cannot hold anything more in solution and the rest will precipitate out and form a sediment at the bottom of the container. Cold water has a lower saturation point than hot water. Andy, you have a few of us curious... Rod~

http://www.thegrimescene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2999 Here's the link Lou.... CALL HIM.

Not really. There are many successful contractors who swear by Caobot's products... and the one day deck is a concept many would embrace for productivity reasons alone, provided the technology works. Beth

Cabot's products are WONDEFUL. When they put it on the shelves, it will be worth looking at. There are one day deck formulas out there, and more on the way. Wood Tux is headed that direction also and we can't wait. Beth

Hey John, Is it going to get any warmer up there this week? We are finally thawing here. Beth :groovy:

Got a photo? Usually when we see actual moss growing there is rot present. We had a deck we did, and you could have placed a golf ball on the top of th emoss mound and teed off! Press your fingers down onthe area and see how much give there is. If rot is there, you are facing a much bigger issue. Beth

It is ALWAYS better to post in an existing thread than to start a new one. That was too funny... Beth :groovy3: