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Yep, I sure did. Just adding my .02.
Beth
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It can be very confusing. After all the pail says it can take a light rain in 60 minutes.
Good luck.
Beth
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A/C needs to be applied to absorption and the excess removed.
It is comprised of 2 oils. 1 drying oil and 1 moisturizing that doesn't dry.
It takes anywhere from 24-36 hours for these 2 to balance out and set up.
If over applied, there will be no ability for the drying oil to set up properly.
Clean the deck again using a percarbonate cleaner and neutralize with oxalic/citric acid brightener.
Apply with a stain pad and only allow the product to penetrate the wood and remove any excess.
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There are a lot of wood guys who use Ready Seal. Sounds like a good starting point but understand one thing...on older wood, it will take more to
to get the color to stay on horizontals than usual. Expect 75 sqft/gal in these cases but otherwise, give it a shot.
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A/C semi solid has been pretty durable in what we have applied to our customers.
I have one deck (eastern exposure but with a roof) has held up for about 6 years now.Rod
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All products today are designed to fail. The thing to keep in mind is the maintenance aspect of each.
Some will require stripping in order to keep it looking uniform. Others can be washed and recoated without
stripping.
Armstrong is one of those.
DEFY. I have applied it to a couple of decks and neither homeowner liked it. Matter of fact, they stopped using me
for a time and went with another contractor. They have both since returned but I contribute their dissatisfaction to DEFY.
TWP is another in the line of oil based products that is easy to maintain as well. But remember, they will need to be cleaned
and recoated every two years.
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If you used a bleach product to clean with, there is no bringing back the original color with additional washing.
My suggestion is to select a stain that you like and expect extra absorption. ie; coverage rate will be lower than normal.Rod
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Industry standards for deck cleaning involve a 2 step method. Cleaning/stripping with a sodium hydroxide based product and
then neutralizing with oxalic acid or combination of oxalic and citric acid. This returns the wood to its normal pH and renders the
cleaner/stripper inactive.
Stains....that's a question for the environment of your deck.
Tell me about what is around. Hot tub, trees, bushes up close. Is the deck ground level, <2' above ground or higher?
Is it on the north, south, east or west side? Is there a pool nearby?
Understanding the environment is the first step in deciding what will serve best.
Next. How old is the deck? Does it have a lot of checking (longitudinal cracks)? Splintering/feathering?
What was last installed on the deck for a coating or sealer/stain?Rod
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Welcome back!
Rod
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Looks as if it is incomplete clean.
Try bleach first. See if it finishes the job.
If not, then an acid may have been used to clean the brick and created damage.
A masonry cleaner will help finish the cleaning in that case.Rod
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Your customer must be happy with those results.
Rod
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You can put it on youtube and then post the link here if you like.
Rod
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Great!
Thanks for posting the vid.
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On 3/14/2017 at 9:08 AM, john@AEC said:i really need to get back here more often
Yes you do. lol
Rod
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Hood cleaners are sodium hydroxide based and used to get the grease generated from fryer grill exhaust.
Thing is, they typically scraped the hoods to get the bulk off and only use the cleaner to remove what is
left.
The products used can vary and I think hood guys could give you some insight.Rod
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Check with Tom @ ACR products.
We use a degreaser called BD-10 heavy duty butyl degreaser.
You can buy it in a 55-gallon kit to mix up in your shop.
Not sure if it comes in smaller quantities.
Tom could answer that better.
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We do our own but have a tech who helps with the technical side of it.
Rod
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4 hours ago, Sunshinegutterspro said:Hi, You first clean the gutter primer, rub & rinse , liquid dish soap.
Could you please clarify or expound on that?
Rod
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I have heard about sendjim recently. It has potentials in targeted mailing from the little I saw...
Rod
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We aren't roof cleaners by any stretch so I'll let others reading contribute to that question on consumption.
I'm sure your 'stealth' approach will raise some questions from fellow roof cleaners though.
They may be interested in how.
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Rob Rose,
Look into having a pool filling company bring in a truck. Obviously that costs but at least you will have a flow to keep up.We use them when well supplied homes can't keep up. It's in the verbiage that the customer pays for it directly (keeps us
out of the transaction).
The tanker trucks are usually 3500-4000gallons
Haven't had to use the tanker trailers yet. (thankfully)Rod
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Bleach is going to help win this one out.
I use a heavy duty degreaser/bleach combination to do the initial wash and for any remnant mildew stains
we use a final bleach bath to finish it off and the thorough rinse.Surface cleaners will be a great benefit in completing the job if you aren't already using them.
Rod
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No Problem.
We use a 5gal cubetainer to avoid spills when house washing.
Personally, didn't care for the delay in DS'ing waiting for soap to fill/empty the line.
Added to the time in my thinking but that's just me. Instant gratification eh?
Keep in mind the hazards of a chem tank on a trailer and the hazmat issues/penalties if you
are involved in an accident and have a spill. We all drive safely but there are those few who
make driving on the road perilous at times as you may well know.
Food for thought.
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There are those who use pumps for washing houses but many prefer either downstreaming or applying with an x-jet/m-jet or other injector system.
My suggestion is you try both and see which works best for you regarding the equipment set up you have.
Rod
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The dilution depends on the product you use. Not all have the same concentration.
We mix ours onsite since they come in powder form and tailor it to the conditions needed.
Shur-Line pads are fine. Don't care for the handles but for one deck you can't beat it.
We use a product from Padco but you have to buy in bulk unless you can find a dealer
locally to get one or two from.
Rod