Ron Musgraves

I answer them all the time, i use BS name and brother in-laws credit card number. Just kidding about the brother in-law. But i have fun with them. I even got one to answer back. I said to call me and i would give it toi him over the phone, please dont suspend my account.

This statement is true, but only the high traffic areas. DO NOT ATTEMPT this on the whole project.

Not much, I purchase this equipment early on. If i had stayed doing industrial and heavy equipment i would have use for this. I have use them for strutures, not at 8000psi. We increased the water volume and lowed the PSI and shot water about four stories once do a hotel. Didnt reallt work well.

Jeff, If you want to sub or call me in to consult I would be happy to provided the profit was right. You need free advice just call.

WHat do want to know? regualtions? osha? where to purchase? I have worked up to 50,oooPSI in mexico once. I have used 20,000psi jetters. On eviro crues and on drains. I have 8000psi machines I own and never use. I can tell you that the water is hot and needs no burner. I once use a 10000psi landa deisel and burned myself. it was a cold unit. I'm here to tell you that you dont need a burner. the water from friction and pump heat gets hot. You will not have any cleaning use in public or commercial situations. I have use ultra in steel mills. When i fleet washed we cleaned some crains at inlandsteel in gary IN. I got two flat tires thinking i would rinse the truck off. LOL

Most have there out dept and wash things themselves.

Thats a true statment. If your going to open a retail store any where i would research demographics and see what was needed. certainly and smart organized person can make money at this or there wouldnt be so many doing it. *** has had many people who have failed and many that are very successfull. You can learn from both, often those who have failed know why. they can keep you from making these same mistakes. I know that having a plan and being able to change the plan if needed is a big thing. I had a friend of mine that laid the plan out. he made a mistake and was affraid to make the change. the fear in the end is what got him. to this day he knows that you cannot have fear and you must be able to make small changes or large ones if you see you have made a mistake. I feel the reason i have done well is that we have found a successful way thru trial and error and we just keep doing it over and over. mistakes will cost you money and the you will make them, the one who make the least will win.

I rely on that from my comp.

I was n High School washing window and a PM asked me to clean her walks on a center and the rest is history. I continued doing this thru college and when I finished I started coaching at local Jr. high and realized I was never going to make as much money coaching as pw. I have owned to many businesses since and always have stuck with PW.

I'm not picking on celeste But i believe i can control liquid easier than powder. Often resin hides in cracks and crannies and is very difficult to clean up even with with a vaccum. I have always felt Liquid to be safer than powders. I also make and label my own chemicals and enjoy saving the money. I understand that store bought liquid is double powder. I also in flatwork could show you damage from over use of powders. I do use powders in certain areas, dumpster and compactors. ( works great and nothing to hurt)

waupun, Give me a call, i might have some advice. remind me your calling about busz plan...

this is simple, call the manufacture and get the guys they sell rentals to. Most have a rental division. C-techs is Shark.... you can rent a landa from a shark dealer.

http://amclean.com/Turbotwister.html That model does not reclaim. the delux model does. I would have no way to get it out of my truck. My crew are one man and would need a lift to get it off the deck.

I think they already operate and serve better than most orgs. they are just not labeled org. the purpose they provide is education and knowledge. TGS.org ***.org PWN.org Main Entry: 1or·ga·ni·za·tion Pronunciation: "or-g&-n&-'zA-sh&n, "org-n&- Function: noun 1 a : the act or process of organizing or of being organized b : the condition or manner of being organized 2 a : ASSOCIATION, SOCIETY <charitable organizations> b : an administrative and functional structure (as a business or a political party); also : the personnel of such a structure

Thats a nice machine and they make good stuff. Other manufactures push the tolorances. That sound like they actually made that machine with a little extra kick.

Be consistent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That’s all I can say, what ever you do stick with it and keep after them…

I was writing mine when you posted. Its a different opinion 11 years later. funny how some still have the same opinion.

22 years later and now I answer this question very different as many veterans with multiple crews would answer. I think you could take a slow approach and start with little invested and make little profit and numbers. You could start quickly and spend more money to start up. (Obviously you would make more money) What do you consider start up? Equipment, insurance, marketing plan and all the time it takes to get started. For most businesses pressure cleaning is a low cost as far as equipment purchase. You could spend as little as 3000.00 and as much 150 thousand. Marketing the first year if you want a business that will make a quarter million a year will cost around 50 to 75 G’s for the cost of marketing material and help. Keep in mind even if you do things yourself your time is worth something. I would not try to start a pressure cleaning business on a shoe string unless you wanted to remain part time or just want to go slow because you felt you didn’t have enough knowledge. Bank roll the start up properly so that you don’t need to lower prices to eat. Watch your cost weekly and don’t be afraid to hire help and train the help so you can build your business. I can’t tell you how many folks go out of business and I get the call Ron I can’t build my business because I’m to broke to hire anyone and I don’t have time to handle sales and customer service problems. Make a plan and figure what you’re doing and set goals to be achieved and then make sure you can achieve these goals. Decide how you’re going to start and no matter what some here argue and say, if you want a strong business and want to make real money and not just a living then be ready to spend a little money. Maybe 50 g’s would be a real number.

I can agree with that, On that note I would also like to warn when buying chemicals in Bulk be careful of the shelf life. Strippers can loose strength. This can cost you more labor. I know distributors dont want to hear this thats why I become and unpopular guy. Very good subject.............

I would love to see someone speak some good about PWNA, Wrapi and all other organizations. I would like to see real debate on how we can actually better all org, in one interest to proffessionilize our indsutry to our customers base. And when we do disagree with what the focus is that we all understand its just disagreement. (not the end of earth) These have always beens my goals, i stand and support anyone or org. trying to improve the industry. (its in all our best interest)

Lance Powell, Give Grant a call, I apoligize for you not being able to post. we have had some past admins that just couldnt get it done. Grant now has the BBS in full control and is running it well. Keep posting you have good stuff

Beth, has elevated the BBs to a new level. First delco,daves, PWN, *** .............about ten others and then the TGS. When you think about it we all have gotten better from it. good old competition!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that made this all happen. TGS is on top by a mile. Good job Beth......thanks Rod for letting her spend the time on the BB and less dance time.

Jani King, Fleetwash,retailone, these are just some of the big boys. check the stock market and run as search for public traded pw companies.

I think its always a cobination of both Chemical and pressure. You need good chemicals to speed cleaning up and pressure also. I will say that results can often be acheive with excessive of either process. However this is only true with concrete. ( damage can occur if you dont know what your doing) Using excessive pressure on fragile surfaces is damaged. Awning, homes,decks & other pressure sensitive structures.

I always will support any positive advancement of this industry. The future will only tell the tale. I’m sure we will see some healthy competition between educational programs. It will be a battle and could better this for the contractors. We could be the people that will gain from this. The two organizations may work in different directions. This can also be a benefit to us. I can only see this as a positive thing; we should all stop abusing the people who try to run these orgs. I know some are questioning the reasons and why we need another organization. I believe the organizations will not be similar. CETA is failing and this organization seems it will definitely compete with them more than pwna. I think it’s a very smart move bring the manufacture and distributor and consumer together. I will attend the convention based on the vendor participation.