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Ron Musgraves

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  1. TGS Doesn't offer:
    • Conventions with continuing education opportunities
    • Certification programs
    • leads exclusively for PWNA members
    • growing recognition of being a National Non-profit for our industry

    I disagree Beth, i think you can offer that with out much trouble. You do have meetings. (scratch) that. I was at a few rounds that had more attendance than PWNA convention.

    you have all the above, the national marketing? WHAT.... I missed something here. I never heard any national marketing about the PWNA. I missed this as a member. could someone tell me when this happened and when I could be involved the next time.

    OH, dont tell me about the clean across the Stadium. Thats not national, its was long distance for some but not national. ( its was a good project and a start) But by no means national.


  2. Ron i got all that covered, of course I asked my references if I could use them, a few of them told me I could use them , even before I asked

    its not that you dont have permission, the new guy will call them for no reason. I just dont give them until they are serious.

    I used to do this, they will call you and say no more. Please take me off that list.

    Anytime you need something just call, if it commercial flat work I got yah covered.

    Sign up on *** in the Prop thread and you will get a simple prop. or ask someone who has recieved one from me.


  3. Its good, but is too much for me.

    Just my opinion. I like things simple, you can protect yourself with a simple agreement.

    Plus in 22 years I've never had to take anyone to court. Thank Goodness.

    I never supply my reference unless they request. And my insurance company would have a fit if i requested all whom i write a proposal to be sent a cert.

    No one has every requested my business license.

    I'm not saying your wrong or right. Just that I can think of reasons why i dont want to do this.

    Customers reasons, to much clutter & willl loose sight of the meat of things.

    Insurance reasons: they would drop me or charge me to send request at the rate i send proposals.

    The past projects, I hope you have your past customers permission. I use this one but i get the permission from the customers that i use.

    Sending references without being asked: if i did this they would bother my references for no reasons. I want people that are very serious. when they looked at my prices and they like the package, then i send references. this is more of a courtesy to my references than anything. also competitors shop you, I sure dont want to be sending them that list.


  4. It was, and now there are three. ***, TGS, and there is one on Deckguide.

    I thought you said that there in the reply to above post. Matt asked if it was endorsed. I said *** is and was the first forum online by the PWNA.

    Your answer was not taken out of context or words twisted. Just a mistaken phrase.

    I apoligize for my mistake. I never try to twist word with anyone.

    So Beth, Whats your take on this subject? Do you think a long term focus is what we need. should we have business plan?

    I'm always elightened by your ideas and view. Please give us and opinion.


  5. Beth I didnt post that there because I though we should not have answers in three or four different places. so I used your annoucement section here to let other know I have and interesting thread and a very good question to pose to the members Myself and the board.

    Since *** is and official PWNA forum thats open to the public and not closed to non-members i thought we would discuss the topic there.

    maybe you could lock this thread down. that way we could keep responses in one place.

    I would extend the same courtesy to you in the future.


  6. any generator power by honda is good.

    I like wincos, voltmaster is cheap and is used on many units because they are cheap. I had a winco that lasted almost ten years of heavy use. 2500wat

    Honda uses there own and its darn good. 800.00 to 1000 for 3500watt

    you can find briggs powered half that price that work fine.

    Good luck


  7. I have one tip, becasreful of painted anything. they use water based indoor paint to save dollars. if you two step this your have a mess on your hands.

    do a search I have written extensive cleaning process, I talk about the gas pump safety also. you can also pick up the phone. You may do a search on *** also. PWN i have some threads about this AKA Ron Marshal

    Water recovery Depends on the class Dry well and the CWA standards of building code and Local enforcement.

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