Wax additive for vinyl

[mas3372 14]

I have been searching like crazy for best methods to add wax. It seems diveres that some downstream with chems and some do a separate application. Some like hot water, some like cold.

If you offer wax, please select your application method and feel free to offer what waxes you use or have used and any preferences.

Thanks.

[mas3372 14]

Thanks for the two votes so far. What type of wax are you guys using.

[Camelot 68]

Hey Mike...Rowlett's Wet Wax is great...I just add it to my cleaning solution...no need for two trips!

- John

[mas3372 14]

thanks john, how noticable is the difference with the wax over without.

[RAJD 14]

We use Steve Rowletts wet wax also. It's concentrated and a little goes a long way. We apply it with the wash and use hot water

Bob

[mas3372 14]

How hot is hot when it comes to vinyl. 140 degrees, 120 degrees?

[DAVID V 22]

I use Rowlett's wet wax, 4oz to a 5er

[Camelot 68]

Mike - Honestly, the difference is not tremendous to the naked eye, but I sell the benefits of the wax to the customer by making an analogy to waxing a car...it simply helps keep the vinyl cleaner for a longer period of time by protecting the surface. For the very low cost of adding it to my solution, I have gained many jobs (this coming directly from the customers) by having this added service. At least where I am, people are sick and tired of getting nickeled and dimed for every little service and will gladly pay a higher price for an "all inclusive" service. Regarding hot water, if I even use it on vinyl (rarely) it's NEVER over 120 degrees...my 2 cents. Hope that helps...

- John

[Integrity Curb Appeal 64]

What's Steve's web addy, I have lost it?

Thanks,

SJ

[Camelot 68]

Hey Scott -

Rowlett Pressure Cleaning Service

- John

[PressurePros 249]

I have always thought of the whole adding wax to your house wash mix as hocus pocus. Won't sodium metasilicate and other caustics (including the bleach) break it down?

[mas3372 14]

That was my concern ken, the wax is at the least going to be weakened.

I saw on a search I did that Rod added the wax after the wash and the house almost dry again and he used hot water and said i made a difference.

Ken, hope you are feeling better.

[Beth n Rod 1,279]

Yes I did, but forgive me for not mentioning the temp of the water. We avoid going above 115* on vinyl due to the fact that it can cause it to warp and buckle.

Hot water helps the siding to dry faster. But as far as applying the wax once the wash is done is a matter of our regimen and not a requirement. We use a butyl based cleaner and it can nullify the wax if used in the same mix.

Rod!~

[mas3372 14]

Thanks Rod for the insight on temp. I never have gone over 110f on vinyl, but that 110 is a huge difference over 50 degree tap water. How do feel about Sodium Hypochlorite and Sodium Metasilcate effecting the wax if added together?

[A and J POWERWASHING 64]

mike good question

[DAVID V 22]

Rowlett Pressure Cleaning Service Home Page

I posted this cuz of it being in car wash section and not chemicals.

[PA Dutchman 14]

Wax is in my mix but we've applied it separately after washing a house once. It did make a notable difference in the appearance.

[mas3372 14]

Thanks for the input gary.

I think for sure that the wax in the mix must hamper the effect of the wax at least to some extent.

I am thinking about offering my customers two options.

1. Wax additive wash - can add some luster to home and can help keep the house cleaner longer.

2. Hot Wax Rinse post wash - adds a nice luster to home's vinyl, keeps the home cleaner for a considerable amount of time long.

I will have to experiment on my home to see the true differences I guess.

Any other thoughts or experiences.

[mas3372 14]

Anyone else?

[mas3372 14]

Finally go to experiemnt today. Did my friends one story ranch. did one half the house with reg. mix with wax added. Did the other half with no wax added, let the house dry for the most part and downstreamed a wax mix with 110 degree water.

Hands down, warm water application after the fact is far superior. Looks 10x better.

[douseahouse 21]

so you are saying that after you wash and rinse you then do a wax rinse? what was your product and mix? did you just apply the wax and let it dry?

thanks,

rando

[mas3372 14]

Randy,

After the house is rinsed and almost dry, I mixed 10 oz of wet wax with 2 gallons of water and dowstreamed it on. I avoided the windows best I could, but rinsed them again. That was it. Let it dry and it looked great, went back yesterday and it still looked great. Home owner had no problems with windows either.

[douseahouse 21]

i've been using the plexmaster from envirospec. it's actually called a sealant and a mildew retardant. i use it to distinquish myself from the "other guys" in my area and it has turned out to be a great selling feature. i include it in my normal housewash instead of letting it be an "add on" feature. i buy it and make 55 gallons of concentrate. i like to get it on the windows and watch the water bead up as that lets the customer know that they are not being taken advantage of.

rando

[ezelder 14]

Has anyone used any of the ESpec chems that have the Glass Enhancers or "Superflow Polymers" inthem? I was curious how this performed in comparison to a wax rinse after the fact.

[larryh 65]

Many waxes actually contain some of the additives that you are concerned about. Example: GLYCOL ETHER EB

[ezelder 14]

OK anyone know how to order Steven's Wet Wax? The information on Rowlett Pressure Cleaning Service (phone numbers that is) is not correct.

I am wanting to try this stuff.

I did email him at the address on his site, but he hasn't had enough time to reply yet.