Beth n Rod

I know what you did Kevin, oh yes sir I surly do....you drank my coffee made with my amazing super charged coffee beans! :lol: Have another cup! :lol: :cup: Beth

Poor ventilation can be a culprit for may things. And the funny thing is the owners never seem to listen when you tell them about the ventilation issues.... Beth

....whoops!!! That's gotta suck. You're not alone. There are lots of whispers of other things with other jobs in other states. PM me if you need people to contact. Beth

I knew you were joking. ;) Have more coffee :cup: How's your weather today? Beth

We always let them know when things need to be cut back. If they don't' want to, we tell them if we can not safely get to the wood without risk of injury to the operator, then it doesn't get washed. That usually (not always) get things trimmed. Beth

Hey I didn't write the stuff...and to be honest I didn't fully read it. (skimmed it) Some links looked more...digestible...than others. Have a coffee on me... :cup: Beth

Thanks for sharing the tip! :) Beth

Good morning and welcome! :cup: Hope you find our little community to be beneficial to your business. :) Beth

NEVER start a board without finishing it. If you do, do not leave a drastic stop start mark, feather it out from well coated to barely coated, and then in lighter areas where you wiped off, apply less to even it up. BUT...it's better to never start a board without finishing it. Beth

It's good to know it can lap. We don't cut in. That's why. Also since we used WT heavily for so long we have learned to finesse product to get it to look even...But, your photo does give an example of how over application in spots can lead to a splotchy deck. Random touch up can do that too. Beth :cup: :sunshine:

Welcome to TGS! :) Glad you found us. Beth

Thought these might come in handy... http://epa.gov/ttncaaa1/t1/fact_sheets/aerosol-coatings-fs.pdf Environment Health & Safety Professional Information Center: EPA Publishes Emissions Standards for VOCs In Aerosol Spray Paints Based on Reactivity Building Maintenance - Paint http://www.princeton.edu/~ota/disk1/1989/8906/890603.PDF Stricter VOC Rules In Effect in parts of The Northeast As Well As Southern California - Sherwin-Williams Beth

For my experience, the product worked very well in the fact that it applied well. Application method was through a Titan 440i sprayer 1200 psi setting. We back padded it and the coverage was very even and did not lap. I gave it every opportunity as well. The finish was even and while penetration was evident, it did not just disappear and leave the surface begging for more sporadically. The wood was white cedar 2 X 4's butted together over cedar poles for supports. Age: approximately 3 years old and only ever treated with menwood harvest gold. It was stripped off with HD-80 at 4 oz/gal with 633-add @ 1 qt/5gal bucket The strip was complete without much fuzzing and the only sanding was to remove overspray around the support poles of the permachink product applied to all the logs. With the exception of the odor, it was a nice product to work with. My only question is obviously the durability of this particular finish on cedar even though it is covered by an extensive porch. The lighter side with all the sun is going to be the test as the other side gets virtually no direct sun at all. I only question the durability due to the low pigment content but from what I have been told, it should last 2 years in this particular installation. More to come on that. Rod!~

Yes, they were pushing for 2009, but it may be 2010, but the entire US will soon be compliant. Armstrong Clark is a quality company and I am sure their products are compliant and manufactured and shipped within the letter of the law. Not one doubt in my mind. Beth

Russell, It IS VOC compliant. I suggest you speak to your competition directly...or look at the data sheets, rather than speculate here. It's their formula, not yours. Beth

Rick, I do not think it will be a problem provided the product is permeable, which I would believe it is based upon experience with similar things and conversations. This may sound difficult, but trust me it isn't. We dealt with potential color build up issues with Wood Tux, and it was possible to maintain the desired look. The parafinnic oil will dive to moisturize. The linseed oil will cure near the surface and lock in the UV protection. It is NOT impermeable, thus you should be able to apply a maintenance coat just fine, the biggest issue will be how much color do you want to add at maintenance time.... Beth

Check it out guys - when you compose a post there is a new icon for You Tube. Just add the video ID - the part after v= - and it embeds the video. [yt]Bz7VnBZ_k98[/yt] Enjoy! Beth

Bump....reminder it is easy to embed the videos from You Tube. When you are in the "Go Advanced" editor you will see a little red icon on your editing tool bar. Click it to add the tags add the video ID between the tags save your post The tags look like this: [ YT][ /YT] *** I have added a space after the first bracket so you can see them. Take out the space between the first bracket and the Y or the / to use these tags...*** Beth

[YT]_KjsEs46C70[/YT] ;) ...here it is embedded... Beth

No dangling chads here.... :lol: Beth

Ok... I spoke to Jake Clark last night regarding maintenance with this product. There are a few things you need to keep in mind, none of which are enough to cause concern, as they do apply to other products as well. Here we go, I have my coffee!!! :cup: If applying a semi-solid over a semi-solid yes it will create a situation where the remaining visible wood grain is diminished from view and the effect is more solid. This is true of semi-solids in general (such as Cabot's as an example), you need to know this (so does the customer) before the finish goes down. Solution: Do maintenance with the clear if the color is still even, or the toner product. :cup: If applying the semi-transparent over the semi-transparent, it becomes a question of wear, time passed since the initial application, etc. If the client wants annual maintenance, give it a light wash if plenty of pigment remains, do the maintenance with the toner or clear, since just like sooooo many other products, you can build color if it is still really intact. If it has been a few years, you may be able to use the semi-transparent just fine. Look at the deck after it has been washed and you'll see what pigment remains. :cup: If you applied the toner, don't sweat it at all. Wash and seal as normal. :cup: You do not have to strip - read this again folks....you do NOT have to strip prior to applying the maintenance coat if you step down to a lower solid item for your maintenance coat. :dancing: Beth p.s. both thumbs are STILL WAY UP!!!

We thought it would look good with the Bronze on the house.... ;) Beth